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If canon Steve were to talk to fanon Steve he'd be like:
The only thing different we do about Billy is actually give him support and a safe home. I'd even argue that fanon Billy is the Billy we only see glimpses of in canon... when he's not on edge.
Which gets this fandom all hot and unbothered for some reason 🤷♂️
#billy hargrove#steve harrington#he would not fucking say that#as a friend of mine said#and i like steve#fanon steve#he had potential#and that has died bc of the duffers#good day#anti duffers#anti stranger things#srsly#hes the annoyed older brother who always looks like he needs smelling salts to wake up#hes not the babysitter#not the single mother of six#not a doormat existing to fuck eddie#dont strip him of what little personality hes got smh#he was barely crying#when he was tortured#hes emotionally conspitated
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the thing about steve harrington is that he's one of the most compelling characters of all time. he starts the show an extremely popular jock and now he's got two friends: a girl he had a crush on that turned out to be a lesbian and a fourteen year old. the only fight he's ever won in his life was against a soviet spy. he keeps a bat full of nails in his car. he barely graduated high school. he beat up a racist. he's terrible at flirting. he has daddy issues. he spends an entire season wearing a little sailor outfit, hat included. and he's even bisexual
#i think you guys take the mom steve thing too far in fanon but i do see where you're coming from#caught between steve dying in s5 would be narratively compelling and steve dying in s5 would mortally wound me#steve is just my special little guy. my babygirl even.#stranger things#steve harrington
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They’re stupid babies
#I really really like the triangle twin fanon thing going on#it’s so cute#watch how Steve somehow becomes my favorite character#my art#gravity falls#pyramid steve#bill cipher
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i love when artists explicitly write/draw eddie and steve with very noticeable, maybe even deforming scars. i love when they dont fail to mention the repercussions the things they've been through have left on their bodies. because yes, we talk a lot about ptsd and horrible nightmares and all the psychoemotional issues, but we should totally talk more about the physical side of it.
eddie with a scar on his jaw that tugs when he smiles and aches after a long effusive rant. having to use mobility aides like a crutch or a walking stick because the muscles on his leg never fully recovered and the scars on his abdomen hurt if he tries to tighten his core too hard.
steve with awful migranes and early onset hearing loss and complex vision problems and slight trouble breathing because his head/face got fucked up one too many times. the scars on his back that got infected because no one gave them notice, that are now scars that twinge when he moves his arms and hurt after a day of running around with the kids. the scars on his abdomen that restrict his range of motion. that raspiness in his voice that never went away after a bat tried to crush his windpipe.
i don't know where i'm going with this i just... we constantly recognize their heroic deeds, but i think it's also important to remember that they are not heroes. they are just teenagers who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. they were doomed by the narrative, literally cannon fodder, and their bodies tell the history of that, and of how they're still here despite it all.
#and before you come for me I KNOW EDDIE IS DEAD#i Know#same as i know that canon will probably never give any character actual sequelae despite getting injured so many times#but i am talking about fanon and fandom perception here#where eddie is miraculously not dead and steve is more than a plot device#steddie
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It feels like there's this narrative that fandom keeps wanting to explore, with Steve Harrington, about this very specific type of martyrdom where self-sacrifice is an expression of a lack of self-worth. And, like, yes, write the narrative that's meaningful to you, and yes ok Steve does admittedly get beaten up a lot, but -- legitimately I do not think this narrative is actually Steve's story.
Like, without gendering things too much, there is something in the Steve fanon that I keep seeing that's so reflective of the specific kind of sacrifice and societal pressures exerted on girls, specifically -- this story of 'you make yourself worthy and worthwhile by carving pieces out of yourself', of believing that you must always give and never receive to justify the space you take up in the world. Yes, boys can experience this same pressure (and obviously trans and nb people of all genders run into it as well! sometimes a lot!), but especially in the mid-1980s cultural context where Stranger Things takes place, it's just...really not likely to be a dominant narrative for Steve to be operating under? It doesn't even really match the Steve we see on screen -- who is happy to make sacrifices for the sake of others, yeah, when needed, but who's not particularly kind or giving unless somebody asks first.
And Steve does get hurt a lot on other people's behalf! And this is a problem! It's just a completely different problem than the one fandom keeps writing.
Steve, and I'm going to say this forever, is a story about toxic masculinity, which the show may or may not even know it's writing. The archetypes influencing Steve's character as it shows up on the screen (and the stories and messages that Steve would actually be surrounded by in his actual life) are not deconstructions of suffering heroes who never should have had to fight in the first place and were destroyed by it. That's the Buffy the Vampire Slayer story. Steve's not Buffy. Steve's cultural context is Indiana Jones.
Steve is The Guy! And part of being The Guy is that you're expected to take the hits -- not because Steve is less important than the women-and-children he's supposed to protect, but because, the story says, he will get less hurt. Why should Steve get in between Billy and Lucas? Because Steve is an eighteen-year-old athlete and Lucas is in middle school, and of the two of them, Steve actually stands a chance. (And yes, Steve got badly hurt there, and Max had to save him -- but if Lucas, if Max had taken that beating they would not have been running through those tunnels later.) Was somebody else better-qualified to dive down to the uncertain bottom of a cold lake in the middle of the night? Steve doesn't list his credentials there as a way of justifying some ideal of martyrdom; he is literally the most likely person on the boat not to drown.
And make no mistake: when Steve's pulled into the Upside-Down, he survives the bats long enough for backup to get there. Realistic or not, he's apparently tough enough that he's physically capable of hiking barefoot through hell without much slowing down. Steve is the tank for the same reason as any tank: because he literally has been shown to have the most hit points in the group. You cannot honestly engage with Steve in this context without dealing with the fact that he's right.
AND THIS IS A PROBLEM! This is still a problem! But it's not the same problem that fandom seems to expect. It's not an expression of caretaking or the need for self-sacrifice; it's not an issue with Steve valuing himself less. It's an issue of toxic masculinity so ingrained that Steve doesn't even recognize he's suffering from it, because one of the tenets of toxic masculinity is that Big Strong Guys don't suffer. It's just a concussion, it's fine, he'll walk it off. It's not that Steve thinks he deserves to get hurt, or even that he's less deserving of safety than the others. It's that absolutely nothing in his cultural context allows him to admit that he can be hurt in a significant way.
There's still so much tension that can be gotten out of this situation, I swear. There's so much that can be explored in writing! Hell, the show itself is deconstructing some of this trope, believe it or not, by giving us a Steve who absolutely can take all the hits thrown his direction but still doesn't know what the fuck he's doing with his life. It turns out that doing his job as The Guy is only mildly helpful in horror movie situations (mostly by buying time for smarter, squishier people to do the damage from behind him), and somewhere a little worse than useless in everyday life.
But Steve does not go out of his way to self-sacrifice, he really doesn't. He just does his job. He's The Guy. Of course he's not going to let a kid or a girl or some scared skinny nerd who just learned about monsters yesterday take the hits. Of course Steve's got this.
#Stranger Things#do I dare character-tag this#does this count as an Unpopular Opinion if I'm calling out fanon#eh let's be bold#Steve Harrington#and#toxic masculinity#which is apparently just A Thing I Post About Now
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STEVE IS CANON NOW???
AINT NO WAY WE GONNA HAVE STEVE IN THIS MOVIE
This is so unreal, because if the creators of this movie learned/knew enough to throw Steve in as a character, what else could they possibly have thrown in for us fans????
Less than a month to go, the hype is real.
#transformers#transformers one#tf one#maccadam#maccadams#tf one steve#transformers steve#steve the vehicon#vehicons#steve#what even is he supposed to be here#fanon character becomes canon for the second time real not clickbait
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steve randle they could never make me hate you. two-bit matthews they could never make me reduce you to comedic relief. dallas winston they could never make me see you as the villian. johnny cade they could never make me see you as a baby. soda curtis they could never make me think of you as dumb. darry curtis they could never make me hate you. cherry valance they could never make me hate you. ponyboy curtis they could never make rely on your narration (see what i did there)
#NOT SAYING PONY THINKS ALL OF THIS!!! OR MADE IT SEEM LIKE THIS IN THE BOOK#it’s a wild mix of fanon that bothers me and ponys pov in the book lmao#the outsiders#johnny cade#two bit mathews#dallas winston#darrel curtis#sodapop curtis#johnny the outsiders#outsiders novel#the outsiders sodapop#the outsiders movie#the outsiders johnny#outsiders#the outsiders musical#the outsiders broadway#steve randle#darry curtis#ponyboy curtis#two bit the outsiders#twobit mathews#the outsiders dally#dally winston#sodapop patrick curtis#sodapop the outsiders#the outsiders darrel#the outsiders darry#the outsiders cherry#cherry valance#sherri valance
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I can't be the only one who thoguht of this
Link to og Tad Strange fanart:
#I have a vivid memory of me drawing Tad stranfe and bill fanart and some girl coming over to my sketchbook and saying “I know that shoow:3”#I had a hc that Tad and Mabel were bffs because of all the fanart#Tad was a silly goofy guy in my 9 year old brain#Gravity falls#tad strange#the book of bill#pyramid steve#GF#If you asked me as a kid who my fave from GF was I would say tad strange#I watched the full show btw and I still liked the stupid fanon oc the most#I was crazyy as a kid#I loved GF I still love GF never stop loving GF
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In which I drew Steve (worgen) and Eddie (night elf) as their characters in World of Warcraft 🤲 Inspired by @stevespookington's fic i couldn't see (you were always right beside me)!!
#steve harrington#eddie munson#steddie#warcraft#new blorbos mixed with old interests yayy#yesterday i was playing wow and got inspired to finish it lol#first drawing ever of them and it's on their rpg selves ofc#i miss playing as a worgen so much#i should draw my OCs 😔😔😔#also yes druids dont get batform ingame but eddie does#ah yes reminder that I'm in love with the fanon version of this show and characters and dont support the hateful speech of its actor(s) ✌️
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I genuinely think it would be so funny if we meet steve’s parents in s5 and they end up being the nicest people and it turns out he was just being a dramatic bitch every time he called his dad an asshole
#like it would completely decimate the fanon interpretation of his parents#I just think it would be silly#steve harrington#stranger things
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every time people hate on steve's polos an angel dies 💔
#steve harrington#mycrumbs#i am 100% biased as a fellow polo shirt wearer but they're so cute and practical<//3#i am tireddddd of the other characters mocking him in fanon. enough!!!!#especially when there's so many other worse things in his wardrobe (his loafers from s1. the weird pleated sweatpants from s4.)#stranger things
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EVERYBODY FREEZE
...we gotta go deeper
#there's got to be more fanon (canon in ineffable husband's case) song overlap here#i'm only in one of these fandoms btw#it /IS/ wolfstar that's associated with this song right?#someone pls know what i'm trying to do here#steddie#steve harrington#eddie munson#ineffable husbands#aziracrow#crowley#aziraphale#good omens#go#marauders#wolfstar#all the young dudes#sirius black#remus lupin#james potter#jegulus#regulus black
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ted wheeler honestly being a well written and realistic depiction of an oblivious father who loves his family but doesn’t really understand them as people and then somehow having his fanon characterization turned into this abusive monster who actively antagonizes his children and leaves them with lifelong trauma like. hello. nancy literally complains that her parents are boring and cookie cutter and they don’t really love each other but they’re complacent enough to just keep on living their little suburbia life. and yet somehow it’s such a common characterization to have ted be like Evil. it’s just so silly to me. esp on the evil dad show where characters like el or jonathan or max have actually been explicitly shown to have faced abuse from their father figures
#and yes ppl take liberties with steve’s parents in fanon but we literally have no reference for them beyond steve’s description of them#they are not actually characters on the show who have canon personalities that refute fanon#so it’s a lil different i feel
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i find it so interesting that in rebel robin, robin seems confident that her parents will be cool with her being a lesbian whenever she decides to come out to them (they’re major hippies), and that angle isn’t really explored in fanon works all that much
like yes i also love the headcanon that wayne would be like. very chill about all that and the trailer is where the older kids come to hang out and be openly queer without worry but !! i also think the buckley household being a safe space is such an interesting idea that nobody really explores !!
#like yes i’m aware the books aren’t canon OBVIOUSLY#there’s some stuff in the books that i adopt into my hc’s and stuff i choose to ignore#but i’ve like. NEVER seen a fic where steddie and ronance chill at the buckleys’ place bc robin’s parents are cool#like yes robin thinks they’re lame bc they’re her parents but she’s also so certain they’ll accept her#and i feel like fanon doesn’t really explore that#stranger things#eddie munson#steve harrington#robin buckley#nancy wheeler
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my unpopular st opinion is that in canon most of the characters are not queer
this is why characters like will, robin, and mike feel so isolated
because while they have people who love and care for them, they don't fully understand them and they are different
#stranger things#byler#<- target audience#milkvans do not interact#do i love fanon bi steve?#yes but that boy is straight#like no hate to fandom headcanons of course#but the st canon is pretty extensive in queercoding the characters who are actually queer
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headcanon that Ford was a ceremonial magician (à la Aleister Crowley, or more accurately in the scientist case, Jack Parsons) during his time working with Bill Cipher cuz like,, c'mon
bro was literally doing yogic exercises (which ceremonial magicians appropriated from tantric practitioners in India and Tibet in the late 19th/early 20th century but that's a tangent for another day)
meanwhile, Fiddleford, being from hillbilly roots and thus probably from a devoutly conservative Christian background*, was def unnerved by how they approached their research cuz after all, chanting interdimensional mantras and then yammering about ingesting ground up baby bones or whatever effed up things while having weird eyes is def a sign of demon possession. and Ford seemed okay with it??? and actually enjoyed it, setting up shrines to this "muse"????
but "oh, Fiddleford is a stupid superstitious redneck bum who's scared of his own shadow" Ford would conclude under the influence of Bill
tl;dr: i love the correlation between scientists and the occult/esotericism in history and i think Ford def fits in that correlation
#*i know the popular fanon is that Fiddleford was a hippie cuz of parallels to Steve Jobs but i'm talking childhood here. i dunno i haven't#*read Journal 3 or The Book of Bill or any other book that would reveal more about Fiddleford's past#giz.txt#headcanon#gravity falls#the book of bill has reawakened 13yr old me and i love it#ford pines#fiddleford mcgucket#stanford pines#old man mcgucket
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