#fandom problem 6727

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Response to 6727: lemme break this down for ya, since the submitter for 6727 is clearly young, ignorant, and/or a puritan.

If you think that lolisho, lolicon, or any fictional content that features fictional children characters being consumed by people makes them predators, okay then, we can keep going from here then.

People who are into a ship like Harley Quinn x Joker are “abuse apologists.”

People who are into non-con are “rape apologists” or “rapists.”

People who like incest ships want to fuck their own siblings/cousins irl.

People who like gore art are possibly serial killers.

People who like a fictional characters who are cannibals are also cannibals.

People who like violent video games will be encouraged to kill people irl.

People who play Doki Doki Literature Club will be encouraged to commit suicide.

People who like Red Skull from Marvel Comics are Nazis.

People who liked Thanos from the MCU encourage genocide.

People who liked a character who is a dictator encourages real life dictators.

People who simp for Ghostface or Michael Myers simp for real life serial killers.

People who read about fictional dystopian totalitarian stories are future dictators.

People who are furries are zoophiles.

Do I need to keep going? Or should I also mention Jack Thompson for good measure? Because you are spewing similar wording, but the topic is about lolis.

Lolicon creeps me out and disturbs me because they sometimes look like they are the same age as Anya from Spy x Family, or they are underage, but I am not gonna be yet another person to downplay what pedophile means.

If you guys want to keep calling people who are into admittedly yucky fictional content “pedophiles” over it, go right ahead, because now the term now does not mean crap. Hope you guys sleep well at night knowing that you could’ve helped ACTUAL REAL LIFE children who were victimized by pedos that invade our fandom spaces.

Posting as a response to a previous problem.

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Fandom Problem #6727:

I honestly think the “it’s just a fictional character” argument is the biggest load of horse shit I ever did hear. It’s still pedophile jerkoff material, so it’s still bad. Having kids, and the idea of being a kid, sexualized is inherently immoral, simple as that.

And no, I don’t think they’ll automatically come for queer fiction next if they ban this stuff, for the same reason the gay rights movement didn’t die when we kicked NAMBLA out. Just because people HAVE lumped queer people in with pedophiles doesn’t mean we have to protect them to protect ourselves. That just makes things worse.

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Hello, I would like to respond to 6727 as somebody who occasionally consumes the type of content op is talking about.

I am a 30-something year old cis bisexual woman. I am lucky to say that barring the usual sexism and minor harassment most women experience, I was never sexually abused so I don't have any sexual trauma that I know of. When I was 7 to 10 I has an intense fascination with sex. Now let me make clear, both in the past and present day I never wished I'd been abused and obviously being a child I didn't realize what sex implicates and that I was years away from even being ready to try it, but a part of me believed I wanted to do it. I would fantasize having sex with grown up celebrities, I would draw people having sex on a secret notebook, I'd pilfer semi-dirty magazines from I don't remember where and cut out pictures of topless and nude models of any gender, stills from dirty movies, miniaturized movie posters where the characters did the do, and make collages in said notebook, those sort of things. I don't know if this is the average experience of any allosexual child, especially a female one, but it is mine. It didn't last long.

I discovered fanfiction and ao3 late by today's standards, in my early 20s. I didn't flock automatically to lolisho. I don't even consume lolisho content that often. What happened is that reading more erotica, some days I would seek fics for, yes, wankbank material. Once again, I didn't end up in the underage tag right away, but eventually by browsing ship tags sorted by word count I was bound to find it. I clicked on the first with a feeling of disgust that I think op shares. That eventually changed. I think people will have realized by now that I don't focus/put myself in the adult's role, but the child's. Reading lolisho allowed me to explore a tiny buried part of my sexuality that I think had gone repressed for a long time, and yes, I could do it without anyone getting hurt.

Shockingly (/s) after almost a decade I never ended up believing that having sex with children or as children is ok. I also developed a mild incest kink and again shockingly, I never came up with the desire to fuck my sibling or any other member of my family. The love of my life knows about this, understands me, and would be willing to try implementing my kinks in our sex life since we've long successfully implemented theirs, but I don't feel the need to ever bring them out of my brain. We don't plan to ever have kids for reasons that have nothing to do with all of the above. I am a normal human with a job, friends and family, well-adjusted as they come, no criminal record, never physically or mentally harmed anyone intentionally or permanently, and my most interesting thoughts when seeing real life children is that they're cute when they're well-behaved, or devil-spawn when they're making a racket.

And yet people like op would call me a pedophile and inherently immoral if they knew what I sometimes imagine, just imagine, during masturbation. When I do not hurt anyone. Fuck's sake, I have been called a pedophile for defending teen student x professor fanfics! Obviously I'm aware that among the lolisho readers and creators there could be real offenders, but the problem here is that people who haven't done anything wrong are all being thrown together with real child molesters and rapists. I am highkey sick and tired of it. I'm even more scared of how so many people believe there is no difference between the two groups.

I'm not even going to address the second point that a ban on lolisho wouldn't affect queer content. I hope op has realized from the replies, if not from the right wing propaganda of these years, how wrong they are about that.

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Problem #6727

"That's a pretty reasonable thing to want the death penalty for, until you realize that men in drag are also being accused of committing sex crimes against minors for wearing drag."

I'd be for rehabilitative justice and abolition of the death penalty personally, but omg I literally said YES out loud to that second part, because it's happening in Toronto too. People are getting bomb threats for hosting drag events which the kids LOVE, but people think they're grooming minors and or are pedophiles so it's just. T_T Welp.

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6727

I hope you'll eventually learn to exercise nuance and critical thinking, and understand that pedophiles are people with mental health issues who aren't inherently going to harm real people as long as they can "jack off to" fictional characters instead of people (that sounds like a huge win in my book?), and that banning any material like that is just going to give them one less coping outlet, given how most people refuse to even entertain them getting actual help because most psychologists turn them away and the stigma is so huge. Also, something something "I disagree with what this person's story is depicting but I support its right to exist", something something getting a full idea of a certain point in history which is not going to happen if we sanitize the shit out of things.

Posting as a response to a previous problem.