#fandom problem 5203

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Fandom Problem #5203:

People saying in full earnesty that if you're not attracted to the fat character on a show that you "need to seek help", "kys", or "learn what a spectrum of attraction is". Bruh, I'm the biggest chubster known to humankind and I'm not about to shame people having preferences, especially when they don't treat me or other fat people any different. Stop projecting your internalized shame and prejudice and putting down other people for literally no reason.

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by W4nderingStar

The Legendary Jaeger Pilots Jack Morrison and Gabriel Reyes saved the world once again.

Now Jesse McCree gets to deal with cleaning up after them and the fallout.

Words: 5203, Chapters: 1/3, Language: English

Fandoms: Overwatch (Video Game), Pacific Rim (Movies)

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: F/F, M/M

Characters: Jesse McCree, Lena "Tracer" Oxton, Soldier: 76 | Jack Morrison, Reaper | Gabriel Reyes, Ana Amari

Relationships: Only hints that things, Nothing official, McCree/Shimadas, Lena/Emily, Reaper | Gabriel Reyes/Soldier: 76 | Jack Morrison

Additional Tags: The world was saved, now for the aftermath, Overwatch as the successor to the PPDC, Jesse's POV, Mentions of Sexytimes, Nothing explicit

pacific rim July 5, 2020 at 02:31PM via AO3 works tagged 'Pacific Rim (2013)'

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Cowboy Problems

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2CbbiOU

by W4nderingStar

The Legendary Jaeger Pilots Jack Morrison and Gabriel Reyes saved the world once again.

Now Jesse McCree gets to deal with cleaning up after them and the fallout.

Words: 5203, Chapters: 1/3, Language: English

Fandoms: Overwatch (Video Game), Pacific Rim (Movies)

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: F/F, M/M

Characters: Jesse McCree, Lena "Tracer" Oxton, Soldier: 76 | Jack Morrison, Reaper | Gabriel Reyes, Ana Amari

Relationships: Only hints that things, Nothing official, McCree/Shimadas, Lena/Emily, Reaper | Gabriel Reyes/Soldier: 76 | Jack Morrison

Additional Tags: The world was saved, now for the aftermath, Overwatch as the successor to the PPDC, Jesse's POV, Mentions of Sexytimes, Nothing explicit

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2CbbiOU

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Being skinny doesn't mean you won't die at 30 or 40 from health issues. Also having fat characters doesn't mean "you endorse" obesity, fuck all the way off. There will always be fat people and characters and artists willing to draw them, and if you don't want to then people can give their money to someone else.

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5203 Honestly, as a skinny person, the whole "real women have curves" and "body positivity" things did irreparable damage to my self esteem. It's awesome there is more representation now, and that people have acknowledged there has been a strong bias in the media, marketing, etcetera towards smaller bodies. Don't get me wrong. But then the pendulum swung so far in the other direction that it's basically become "skinny? Into skinny? Jail for a thousand years!!". People will rip you a new asshole just for continuing to be into the same kinds of characters (or real people) you've always been into, and god forbid you, yourself, are that kind. Talk about full-body invalidation (pun intended).

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IRT to some replies to 5203, like, kinda start off understandable but go off the rails a bit in some places.

Gonna start off by saying. I'm fat. Didn't used to be, but I also went from a very physically demanding job to a very sedentary job, so I never had to specifically set aside time for exercise, and now I do. But I'm not here to make excuses for myself.

It's perfectly understandable to be frustrated when people insist you go out of your way to draw something in a specific way. Especially when you have personal discomfort with it.

Personally I dislike the "uwu i represented u <3 do you feel represented <3" genre of art myself mostly 'cause it just feels kinda condescending.

But yeah, eh, body positivity isn't about "encouraging people to become fat!!111!!!1" it just means that we're kinda tired of not being able to go five minutes without someone saying we're ugly and going to die and then turning around and pretending it's because they're just so concerned about our health and wellbeing.

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https://www.tumblr.com/damnfandomproblems/755114071284662272/5203-honestly-as-a-skinny-person-the-whole-real?source=share

Fucking this.

I'm skinny now and I don't like drawing larger body types due to the fact that ive had to deal with being fat before. It sucked! That's just how it is! I hate what the fat positivity movement has done to people. Sure you shouldn't be ashamed of it, a lot of people grow up fat, i did, but you shouldn't encourage people to think it's okay to be obese. That its healthy or that you shouldn't care about your health. Theres so much i could say about this but ughhh. So i dont draw fat characters. I can draw curvy with big hips and breasts and maaybe a bit of belly pudge if requested but i cannot do obese. I refuse. And people get mad at me for being "fatphobic". No i just refuse to encourage a lifestyle that is actively harmful. I once had someone try to commission me on twitter to draw their two fat OCs and get mad at me when i refused because of it. I to this day don't know why they wanted to commission me specifically when i very clearly don't draw fat people. I had to private my account after they and their friends began harassing me but eventually I decided it just wasn't worth staying on twitter. It was for multiple reasons but they were a big one. Ive seen tons of artists get harassment and hate comments about never drawing one thing or the other. It sucks. I cant wait for the body positivity movement to get burned to the ground cuz its all run by people who dont actually give a shit about peoples health and just want to feel validated in the fact that they dont care they will die at 30-40.

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irt 5203 someone commented that they "think they heard from somewhere" that preference for skinny people came from Nazism "but can't remember where they heard it from", I thought it was interesting 'cause this was a specific thing James Somerton was called out for lying about in one of his videos. (Or at least, failing to provide proof for such a claim.)

Todd in the Shadows video dissecting the part, right here:

https://youtu.be/A6_LW1PkmnY?t=3024

at the very start of the video is an example of someone passing this "information" along as a fact in a podcast, and quoting Somerton as the source, to show how he's helped contribute to spread of misinformation.

Can't frickin stand that guy.

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5203: Same here! Not everyone's gonna love my cottage cheese, and I get that. The people who don't get it are idiots. This "body positivity" movement went from being a movement to stop being hateful towards certain body types, to "you have to be innately attracted to all body types, even if you simply aren't, and if you aren't attracted to them, you're a bad person because somehow you chose that (or are brainwashed by Nazism, apparently?!)," and it's so fucked up. Don't even get me started on "healthy at any size", which went from trying to promote acceptance of the fact some people can be metabolically healthy if their weight is somewhat higher than the average (especially if you have sufficient muscle), to "you can be healthy at 500 lbs".

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I'm having a hard time deciphering if by "skinny", each of these anons mean "unhealthily underweight", or "average healthy weight but I just use skinny as a synonym".

For instance the anon that started with "I'm skinny now", I'm not sure which one it is.

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Problem #5203; to the person in the comments who's saying it's Nazi ideology to not be attracted to fat people, and thus bad:

Facism is a set of ideals. Nazis were facists. Yes, they called certain kinds of people degenerates and this included people with disabilities, etc. But this was an ideal. Not something inherent to them.

Inherent attraction to certain skin colours, body types, genders, etc is not facism. Because those are NOT IDEALS. It would be like saying being attracted to men is an ideal, or being attracted to certain facial features is an ideal. And that just brings us back, full circle, to the Nazi thing. You cannot choose who you are attracted to.

I can't believe I need to explain the difference, but here we are.

Look at your own preferences, and realize at some point in history, be it today or forty years from now, your model of what you naturally find attractive will have lined up with offensive ideologies too.. This does not mean your preferences are Nazi facism, or that you were brainwashed by Nazi rhetoric.

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5203: As a slim person who's always just been slightly underweight (18.5 BMI), I really did not expect to read an implication that anyone who is attracted to my body type over heavier folks is showing Nazi Germany facism. That hurts, I won't kid. Then again, this is tumblr. So maybe I was expecting too much.

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Posting one compilation of replies in regards to Fandom Problem 5203, and ensuing replies.

Anon:

Re: 5203 some of you are have quite the “piss on the poor” moment. That anon was literally harassed, a commissioner asks for their oc to be drawn, anon said no, commissioner proceeds to tell everyone anon is fucking fatphobic. Learn to read. Also dying at 30-40 when you’re like 500 lbs is just unfortunate reality.

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Anon: (in response to this ask)

No it doesnt but do you wanna count how many fat positivity activists have died around that age because they've convinced themselves its okay to be obese and that they shouldn't try to be healthy or lose weight, or should i? And I don't feel entitled to peoples money. I was confused as to why they commissioned me of all people in the first place. Go ahead and give someone else your money. You cant guilt trip me into drawing fat characters with the "they exist and people draw them" argument. I am very well aware of that fact due to the fact that i have been fat before. Not just chubby, but literally over obese. You don't get to make me feel guilty for not wanting to draw something i view as harmful, something IVE LIVED THROUGH, just because you want to feel justified in harming yourself. I hope you get better and treat yourself better instead of giving up and allowing yourself to wallow in misery.🫰

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Anon: (in response to this ask)

No ones saying you can't have an unhealthy lifestyle when you are skinny, being under weight and not taking care of your body's needs is not healthy . Most of your weight is probably muscle. Not all fat is bad and if your are doing sports you need a bit of fat or else its gonna eat at your muscles. The human body cannot live without fat. But only having fat? Being a hundred pounds over? two hundred pounds over? And its aaall fat? Look I don't agree with a lot of weight loss culture. It's greedy and predatory and often has unrealistic expectations. But just watching your portion sizes, cutting down on fatty meat, eating more veggies, and filler if your body can handle it, cut down on sodas and candy and just taking a 3 mile walk every day you can, fix your sleep schedual, will do so much to improve your health. You may not lose all your weight and it will be hard at first, but you will feel a difference. You just feel better as a human being when you are taking care of yourself. The biggest reason people give up on weight loss is because they want instant and lasting changes. And you cant have both without keeping up with the effort. You didnt gain all your weight in a few months, so you cant expect to lose it in a few months. You have to put in the effort to find a lifestyle that works for you and that you can keep up with. It takes years and patience and self control. And its hard work. A lot of people arent used to living like that. Its legitimately life changing. You have to change, you have to change your life in order to lose weight and keep it up. Its the same for underweight people too. Its hard on them too.

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Anon: (in response to this ask)

I am the one that said im skinny now. Skinny does not mean unhealthily underweight. I'm not skin and bones but I don't have much belly chub now(some people can't help that though due to genetics). I walk a lot so my thighs have a lot more weight to them. I can move around freely and have more strength and stamina and honestly feel better than even when i was a child. I'm not starving myself to the point i can barely keep myself alive okay.

Anon:

"Lack of attraction towards fat people stems from nazi Germany" Just gonna point out that it's not a good look to say this, then have a post on your blog (among other things) that say "Turks deserve to be called donkeys." I dunno. I just see a bit of hypocrisy there. If you're not trolling and you legit think all this stuff, pleeease get offline and find a means to scrub it from your brain.

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can confirm i was far less healthy when i was skinny than i am chubby. i was 19, eating junk food, pounding energy drinks, staying up all night playing video games. now i'm 25, take boxing classes after work, cook at home, count calories, drink tea, and get 8 hours of sleep a night.

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Problem #5203:

Pretty sure the person who mentioned fascism and Nazis wasn't saying that not being attracted to fat people was based in Nazi ideology, guys. I think they said that because it's the sort of thing some people have said when encountering someone who prefers skinnier people (to have a sense of superiority over those who aren't attracted to fat people, I guess? Idk) that anon is confused by. Like, yeah, it isn't fascist to have those preferences. Everyone here agrees on that, I'm pretty sure, but there might have been a mixup.

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5203

Of course all people on earth deserve to be treated with respect, but this doesn't mean I have to agree with the inflammatory rhetoric fat activists use. Especially not when they co-opting the discourse about real opressed groups.

Also obesity isn't healthy

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