#fallout tribes

[bellonathedragonborn]

I’ve been fleshing out Vulpes’s tribe more and here’s a better version of his people’s tribal markings. Rather than tattoos or piercings his people do brands and scarification.

The tattoos are gendered and depending on how old your are you get a different brand.

For Vulpes he only had the wrist brand but when he was assimilated into the Legion he got the others in defiance. He was punished for it but since you can’t remove brands he instead has to cover them.

[nukacourier]

Okay so I've gotten a couple of comments here and there whenever I complain about the anti-native american sentiment (aka racism) that's baked into Honest Hearts asking "how is it racist??", which I know it's not my job as a native american fallout fan to teach ignorant white people how something is harmful but I'm gonna spell it out anyways because it's annoying when people constantly act blind to it

First of all, the dlc is very heavy handed with the "uncivilized savage" depiction of native americans. The fact that they had to be TAUGHT how to use guns and use their own natural resources to make medicine are already two examples of this right out of the gate

Plus, the fact all the tribe members wear rudimentary hides, hardly speak english, and sleep on the ground without any buildings (where Joshua and Daniel get to wear normal clothes and Joshua has his own work station) are more examples of this troupe (and its especially stupid since iirc a lot of southwestern tribes were known for making buildings that still exist to this day)

This also ties into the white savior troupe, since as said, the Dead Horses and the Sorrows both had to be taught to take care of themselves and have to be protected by another tribe by two white men (Joshua and Daniel), and that they practically worship them for it because they apparently would've died off if these two white guys didn't intervene

This, plus the fact they're both missionaries who are trying to convert the tribes into a Mormonism is downright offensive as Christianity as a whole has been used as a tool to justify committing genocide against us for centuries. Do I even need to explain this?

And speaking of them needing protection, the White Legs themselves are a whole shitty can of worms, falling right into the (what should be) long-dead idea that if we're not stupid mud people, that natives are bloodthirsty, cannibalistic, warring savages (which. Again. Another tool of propaganda used to literally kill us for as long as white people have been here). Which in turn loops back around to the whole white savior thing with the problem of the White Legs only being solved because Joshua uses his mighty hand of God to take them out or whatever. No matter if you try to end the dlc peacefully you STILL have to do that! It's fucked up!

This post is already lengthy and there's a lot of things I haven't covered (such as the native characters in the dlc generally falling into the "noble indian" troupe), but these are the most glaring issues I can come up with from the top of my head

Tl;dr - quit heralding Honest Hearts as the pinnacle of good writing when it's all built off racism. Listen to us native fans for once, please

[dykedvonte]

My only defense of conceptual follower Benny is that he was a warrior nomad and a raider, that still has it in him if we take the All Roads comic into consideration, and how he is not like a real dainty soft hand city slicker, cause it’s mostly an act.

So in scenarios where he is forced to travel with the Courier I 100% think he’d be like “What do ya mean you can’t scale a mountain, pussycat? Watch how the pros do it.” And then you see him scuttle up a cliff face scarily fast only to have to save him when he bumps into a Cazador nest.

[milesonsight]

HI HELLO I ADORE YOUR VULPES SO MUCH OH MY GOD

He's. Such a pathetic little wet cat of a man I need to sink my teeth into him and shake him around like a chewtoy

Also how you draw his EYES???? HELLO????????? I ADORE IT

Sjdjdjf sorry I'm. So mentally ill

HI HELLO JESUS I THOUGHT I SOMEHOW SENT THIS TO MYSELF BRO YOU ARE LITERAY ME FR jokes aside, I WANT TO SINK ME TEETH IN HIS N E C K AND AAAA I like him I love him he is so fun to make bullshit with oh also here have Vulpes staring at the fires of Nipton with child like fascination

[vanillayoteart]

Family Introductions

Continuing her adventure from the previous posts ,our fledgling nightstalker finds herself amidst a local tribe of others Something for Cadencecal from my weekly streams!

[d1sc01nf3rn0]

Everybody shits on Ulysses for the way he talks, arguing that he sounds too complicated or something, and I just understood why: english isn't his first language.

During the Honest Hearts DLCs we learn there's tribes with their own languages, and that they can incorporate english, but they will still use their languages.

Ulysses is a tribal. A tribal who had his identity almost erased, but he still maintains it, probably in defiance to the Legion. It would be logical that this speech manners come from not having english as first language, and being taught it in a really improvised and forcible way. It would also make sense that he refused to "speak it properly" out of his desire to maintain his tribal identity.

Such a simple and logical answer, yet everybody refuses to acknowledge Ulysses backstory.

[felassanis]

I'm sorry how can u not ship Courier x Ulysses when the base game and EVERY FUCKING DLC is constantly pushing the idea that they're fated to meet and destined to be each others salvation.

[minami-mad-fish]

Ulysses Week second day: Zion

log: Y-17.23 -

“[…] It was like my entire dead tribe in the firelight, teeth grinning red in the dark - eager corpses, blood-covered ghosts.[…]”

@datura-tea senpai please notice me

[newvegascowboy]

i know rdr2 is not exactly known for its hashtag realism but i wish it made it a little easier to do research

[old-skulls]

ngl im not very well versed in fallout lore and i’m highly confused by the use of “tribe/tribals” for both the very clearly native characters in honest hearts and also like. blond white chairmen

[rinzdets]

why fnv honest hearts tribes don't have their own chiefs or any other kind of leadership though...

[dykedvonte]

A Defense of Benny Gecko

Benny is more of a capable leader and person than people give him credit for.

Seeing as no one challenged his position as head Chairmen for 7 years and even then he only loses the position if he’s caught, killed or forced to leave. Yes, it’s also likely House wouldn’t have allowed him to be killed but he sure as hell would of found a way to remove him if he was causing too much unrest within The Tops power structure. Even Swank and Tommy don’t outright dislike him and more so are concerned with his recent secretive and shady behavior, emphasis on recent.

Taking all we know into consideration, Benny likely knew the future direction that he wanted to take Vegas but was so caught up in the plans to acquire Vegas that he didn’t think of how to make his dream a reality. Something he admits to in canon. I see this being used as the main argument that Benny doesn’t know what he’s doing at all but I see it more in the same vein as you can’t really plan something from nothing. The transformation of Vegas is a sensitive thing that he can’t really work on until he has it. The only reason he ran to the Fort prematurely is the Courier who was causing so much of a stir he would’ve likely been found out much faster, making all that planning for nothing if he didn’t take that chance.

Benny is careful (well a lot more careful than he is regularly depicted in fanon), the Courier being able to trace him was dumb luck on their part and his hair being noticed at the Fort is a realistically small oversight that even Caesar is disappointed in because he admits Benny got farther than he should’ve been allowed by his legionaries. The fact he can plan an ambush on the Courier or tries to quickly and concisely clean up lose ends that don’t lead back to him shows he’s not just acting on impulses or in the moment decisions. Or rather he’s quite good at thinking them out, whether they work depends on how you play really. This is all to say it’s 100% believable that Benny could lead an independent Vegas (house was basically setting him up to do that). If he had known explicitly that House was setting him up to replace him, he likely would’ve bought more time by getting in closer, learning more of the system to then flip House’s edge to his favor. Again something he was doing already but likely without the knowledge of House’s feelings on him personally.

No matter what, Vegas’ future was tied to Benny; House’s plans for him, having to get the chip and if he had somehow succeeded. It’s also interesting that of all the people vying for control of the dam/Vegas, Benny’s plans are the only ones actually oriented towards a new future, not a recreation of something long past.

[obessivedork]

I know this is an old complaint but the fact that Joshua Graham has "good" karma and Arcade doesn't is WILD. Graham is the only follower in the game that has "good" karma. Like, I have mixed feelings about the karma system but that is objectively wrong to me!

[civilization-illstayrighthere]

i won’t lie there is no better fandom feeling then having your headcanons later confirmed canon in subsequent sequels / dlc / supplemental materials. its so masturbatory but sorry word of god is telling me to crank my hog ig

[thebinturong]

i finished fo2 (although i did cheat a bit. but only because i wouldve blocked myself in pretty much otherwise. also because i suck and dont care) and im soo back at it. it did made me wanna re-establish a timeline for my couriers family that actually fits in with the lore

[galaxycunt]

I am a total nerd bc i love watching videos of people turning wool or flax into threads or yarn and then weaving it and I’m like wow I wonder if in the post apocalypse people learned how to do all that stuff all over again bc the idea of just them wearing outfits they found in departments stores are boring I wanna know what culture is created out of post bomb america and all we get is the children of atom and raiders (which u have to kill)