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Letâs Talk About⌠Fallout! Early History
With the brand-new Fallout television series freshly released, a lot of people have been discussing and diving into the world of the Fallout franchise, particularly the elusive timeline. When is all this happening? Where did our world converge from theirs? Whatâs with Vault-Tec, the War, and the aliens? Well, today weâll be diving into a few of these issues.
Welcome to this weekâs installment of Letâs Talk About, the internet series where I yap about my hyperfixations for an hour and you all hopefully learn something (even if itâs just for fun)! This time around, weâre starting a journey into the realm of post-apocalypseâbefore the apocalypse, and before the wars. Welcome to Falloutâs Early History!
Deviations from the real worldâs timeline as we know it will be noted minimally. Iâm a gamer and a creative, not a historian. All events are mentioned or referenced in-game or during the Fallout series.
(Below the cut to be courteous to y'all's dashboards. Thank you to the Fallout Fandom Wiki editors and fandom researchers for making this post possible! You're all real ones and I'm super excited to be breaking into "the scene" with y'all.)
Our first notch of exploration is sometime prior to 11,000 B.C.E.; weâll return to this point later in our Fallout episodes, but just remember that itâs important. An alleged extraterrestrial precursor to humanity exists somewhere below the ground.
We begin with two real-world events:
1066 C.E.
March 14th: The Battle of Hastings
The Battle of Hastings was the beginning of the Norman Conquest of England, led by William the Conqueror, or William the Duke of Normandy. The battle was fought slightly northwest of Hastings between the Normen-French army and an English army under the Anglo-Saxon King Harold Godwinson. The Normans won this one, and the proceeding conquest resulted in the royal line as we now know it.
1215 C.E.
The Magna Carta
By 1215, the throne of England had passed hands several times. There had been numerous royal rivalries, rebellions, at least one civil war, and who knows what elseâhistorians know, but Iâm not them. At this point, King John of England is on the throneâheâs a direct descendant of that William the Conqueror guy but a lot less cool. After two decades of trying and failing to win one over on France, a bunch of Johnâs barons had enough of his shit and got together to rebel against him. They were unhappy with the fiscal policies heâd developed to sustain his unsuccessful imperial efforts, and for the way he treated a lot of the nobles. The Magna Carta was drafted as a peace treaty between the King and his barons, severely limiting his power as king.
In Fallout 3, you can find and collect a copy of the Magna Carta from the National Archives through the quest Stealing Independence.
C. 1603
Toshiro Kagoâs Abduction,
Sometime during the Tokugawa shogunate, or the Edo shogunate, Mothership Zeta abducted Toshiro Kago.
If you do not want spoilers to Fallout 3 gameplay, please skip to the next section. [Timestamp: ]
Toshiro Kago is a samurai character from the Fallout 3 DLC Mothership Zeta. Heâs one of four people the Lone Wanderer thaws out on Zeta and a temporary companion during the This Galaxy Ainât Big Enough⌠quest battle. The quest Among the Stars sees the Wanderer return his missing sword to him. He never leaves Zeta but cannot be interacted with after the final battle. He doesnât speak English and the player character doesnât speak 16th century Japanese, so conversations with him are stilted, but you get the gist of each other through tone, gestures, and observations.
1605 C.E.
November 4th-5th: Guy Fawkes et al Arrested
The Gunpowder Plot was a failed assassination attempt on Englandâs King James I and the Parliament. It was organized by Robert Catesby as an effort to end government persecution of Roman Catholics; the hope was to replace the Protestant government with Catholic leadership, however, around midnight on Nov. 4th, Guy Fawkes, one of the conspirators, was discovered in the cellar of the Parliament building with barrels of gunpowderâthe plan had been to blow the whole place, king included. Fawkes and others were arrested, tried, and executed for treason by the 5th. Now, every November 5th, England sees Guy Fawkes Day, where effigies of Fawkes are burnt.
1612 C.E.
Point Lookout Deviation
In reality, Captain John Smith landed ashore at Point Lookout in 1608, just a year after establishing the Jamestown colony in Virginia. However, in Fallout, Smith doesnât come ashore there until 1612âit seems that this deviation kicked off further deviations, such as the Ark and Dove Deviation.
As a location, Point Lookout is only available in the Fallout 3 DLC of the same name. The Lone Wanderer can spend an awful lot of time here.
1634 C.E.
Boston Common Established
The Boston Common is considered the oldest public park in the U.S.; itâs played an important role in the history of landscape architecture, the military, politics, conservation, and recreation in Massachusetts. In 1634, the people of Boston (MA Bay Colony) voted to tax each house six shillings to purchase William Blackstoneâs farm as a community commonâthus the Common was born! Itâs still an important cultural piece of landâso much so that itâs a main location in Fallout 4.
In the Fallout universe, Boston Common is home to the Swan, Tour bots, and Vault 114. All Boston locations, to my knowledge, are only available in Fallout 4.
March 25th: Arc and Dove Deviation
In reality, when Lord Baltimore dispatched the colonists aboard the Ark and Dove ships, they landed at Saint Clementâs Island, Maryland; in Fallout, they landed ashore Point Lookout. There, they constructed the Ark & Dove Cathedral. The Ark & Dove resting grounds are another location influenced by this event, It can be assumed that the Point Lookout Deviation led to this major difference.
The Cathedral and the resting grounds are a part of the Point Lookout DLC in Fallout 3, and are home to smugglers, swampfolk, feral ghouls, and three quests: Hearing Voices, Walking with Spirits, and Tailing the Tomboy.
1660 C.E.
Old Granary Burying Ground
The burial ground was established on Tremont Street within the Boston Commons. Its current name is from the adjacent granary that was built in the 1730s. That establishment was torn down and replaced by the Park Street Church in 1809âthe name for the burying grounds persisted, of course. In Fallout, it is Bostonâs oldest surviving burial ground. There are a variety of references to other historical moments within and around the burying ground. Itâs now inhabited by feral ghouls.
1680 C.E.
The Paul Revere House Built
While unmarked in-game, the Paul Revere House is the oldest standing building in Boston, even post-bombings. Outside the building, thereâs now a Freedom Trail marker, a pre-War plague about Revere, and the plague reads: âBuilt in 1680, this wooden building is the oldest structure in all of Boston. In 1770 this home was bought by famed patriot Paul Revere. ⌠Revere dwelled here with his family (including his 16 children) until 1800. Paul Revere was living here when he made his famous midnight ride to Lexington and Concord to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that Redcoats were en route to arrest them and seize the militia weaponry.â Itâs generally considered a myth that Revere made that journey.
1690 C.E.
Publick Occurrences Published
Publick Occurrences Both Forreign and Domestick was the first multi-page newspaper published in British colonial America. Its first issue carried an account that âoffendedâ the colonial governor, and the paper was promptly closed by colonial authorities days later. No other paper was published in the colonies for over a decade.
1692 C.E.
The Salem Witch Trials Begin
The trials of Salem, MA, are pretty infamous. During the trials, numerous Salem Village residents accused others (mostly Protestants, the impoverished, slaves, and disliked folk) of âwitchcraft.â However, there is no evidence that those accused practiced or recognized any form of witchcraft. The accused were arrested, tried, and often hanged. These events made the larger neighboring establishment, Salem Town, a tourist location for the agesâSalem Town was the more affluent of them.
After the Great War, the townâs residents worked to make it a secure settlement, with much success until an onslaught of Mirelurks sometime before the Sole Survivor arrives in Fallout 4. Itâs home to two quests: The Devilâs Due and Gun Run. In the Mothership Zeta add-on for Fallout 3, Fallout Shelter and Fallout 76, the location is also mentioned.
1697 C.E.
May 17th: Andrew Endicott Abducted
Another victim of the Zeta in the Fallout 3 add-on, Endicott was abducted from his Salem Village home on May 17th. A recorded log enlightens the Lone Survivor to some of his story, which the aliens asked him to record. He is fearful of aliens, and rightly so.
1711 C.E.
The Great Fire in Boston
Note: âThe Great Fireâ is a term that has since been applied to the fire conflagration of 1760, which compared to the 1711 fire was much more devastating. However, in 1711, the conflagration destroyed the establishmentâs first townhouse.
The Cabot House Built
Beacon Hill becomes the home of the Cabot House and its owning family. The Cabots are an affluent family who were well-known and connected in pre-War high society. Post-War, theyâve maintained their wealth and a network of hired help, overseen by their family âservantâ Edward Deegan. The most prominent member of the Cabot family was Lorenzo Cabot, an archaeologist ridiculed for his theories of an extraterrestrial precursor civilization on Earth.
1713 C.E.
The Old State House Built
Eventually becoming the oldest public-access building in Boston, the Old State House was where âthe child independence was born.â (John Adams) Miraculously, it survived the Great War in its entirety and has since become the headquarters of the Neighborhood Watch and John Hancock.
1714 C.E.
The Soil Stradivarius Manufactured
One of the most prized instruments ever made by Italian craftsmen Antonio Stradivari, the two-century-old Soil (pronounced âswalâ) was owned pre-War by Hilda Egglebrecht. It can be found in Fallout 3âs Vault 92, in the case and as part of Agathaâs quest Agathaâs Song.
1723 C.E.
Old North Church Built
Eventually gaining the title of âoldest church in the city,â Bostonâs Old North Church was built in 1723. It is still the tallest standing church, with its steeple reaching nearly 200 feet. It is now home to the Railroad and connected to their HQ. There are catacombs from the Revolutionary War underneath it. Itâs only found in Fallout 4.
1733 C.E.
Trinity Church is a parish of the Episcopal Diocese of Massachusetts, and the original site (on Summer Street) was burned down in the Great Fire of Boston of 1872. The current church was erected under Rector Philips Brooks in the 1870s. The Sole Survivor can explore it, so long as they are ready to confront several mutants. Itâs a location in several quests, including, Cleansing the Commonwealth, Diamond Cityâs Most Wanted, Leading by Example, and Randolph Safehouse.
1742 C.E.
Faneuil Hall Completed, Donated
Nicknamed âthe Cradle of Liberty,â Faneuil Hall was donated to the city of Boston in 1742 by Peter Faneuil and it later served as a commercial hub in colonial Massachusetts. Shem Drowneâs gilded grasshopper, constructed that year, sits at the top. The Sole Survivor can explore it in Fallout 4.
May 25th: Gilded Grasshopper Created
In Fallout 4, the Grasshopper is a unique junk item and part of the quest The Gilded Grasshopper, after which, it has no other uses. It was created in 1742 by Shem Drowne and placed atop Faneuil Hall. In Fallout 4, it is found as a windvane on the roof of the building, and a replica can be found in Fallout 76, in Appalachian Antiques. It cannot be picked up.
1755 C.E.
The Cape Ann Earthquake
The Cape Ann quake damaged much of Massachusetts, including the colony of Boston. It remains the largest earthquake in the history of Massachusetts. No one was killed, but the east coast saw a load of physical damages, including Boston and its Faneuil Hall. The Gilded Grasshopper was damaged.
1768 C.E.
June 28th: Gilded Grasshopper Restored
Shem Drowneâs son Thomas restores and returns the Gilded Grasshopper to the top of Faneuil Hall in Boston, Massachusetts. He placed a note inside the Grasshopper, which according to Marty Bullfinch leads to Shemâs treasure. The note is a minorly altered version of a real letter placed inside the hopper in Boston. The only difference between them is the line about Drowneâs treasure. In Fallout 4, the note leads to Shemâs burial and a variety of items buried with him.
Weâre now on the brink of the Revolutionary War, which weâll pick back up at in our next episode of Fallout discussion. For now, I hope youâve enjoyed, I hope your urge to explore the worlds of Fallout has been tickled, and I hope youâll like, comment, and subscribe/follow me here and on my socials. I hope you have a wonderful time. Bye-bye!
#anxious autist (me)#creative writing#fallout#fallout series#fallout games#fallout timeline#fallout lore#fandom#my writing#Let's Talk About... (Typed Series)
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BEHOLD. I HAVE SOLVED FICTION.
Split version under the cut:
If that's still not enough to make it readable here's a google drive link
#the timeline#mother series#undertale#deltarune#undertale 2#ut2#loz#legend of zelda#relics of hyrule#elder scrolls#fallout#starfield#batim#homestuck#persona series#rpgmaker#yume nikki#ib game#fnaf#five nights at freddy's#touhou#yiik#among us#kid icarus#wowza that's a shitton of tags#this will probably be the last major version#the henry stickmin collection
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m'cready
#fallout#fallout 3#fallout 4#fo3#fo4#rj maccready#his timeline messes me up so much.#boy how are you 22. you should be at the club#mayor to mercenary what an admirable career path#symphonart
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found buttons in gmod but with blue hair and a sick new fit
feat. @jimmy-exodus
GTA Buttons had a blue hair episode once!
#you won't catch him wearing power armor though#Fallout 3#Fallout 4#not sure exactly what timeline this is lol#Buttons#OC#Jimmy#Jimmi#jimmy-exodus#gmod#lookalike#blue hair#blood#long post
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the hand that feeds
#fallout#fallout oc#fallout new vegas#fnv oc#oops! The Gang Hits The First Villain of the Story With the Blorbofication Beam#legion outfits are so objectively stupid#i had to give him pants i couldnt do it i couldnt give someone who scouts the desert no pants#this is why they lost everyone has infections and snakebites#god i cant wait for the rp timelines to converge so their shit gets rocked#ANYWAY REPOSTING WITH FIXED ARM AAAUGH
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i can't believe i've done this ngl
this is probably my most grand work with Vulture as a character, and this is counting the animatic, too..... but still!
its a COOL REFERENCE SHEET!!!!! quite proud of myself here :')
#oc: vulture#my art#i'm exhausted but this turned out to be so nice oh my god#my skinny skinny boi#would probably throw in a few concepts of his outfits based on the timeline of his playthrough later#digital art#fallout new vegas#artists on tumblr#fallout oc#courier six#fnv#reference sheet#courier 6
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Nobody including me posts about their ocs enough so please please please reblog reply or whatever with some oc tidbits!
#mutuals I am begging you kindly#Iâll go first! Tango has a massive soft spot for mole rats. hates killing them and thinks that theyâre absolutely adorable! they would#rather be electrocuted than to admire that they have feelings though!#Murphy is the second eldest of 5siblings with her twin brother Tom being marginally older#they all look very similar (freckles. light brown hair. tanned#and front teeth gaps) and they have the youngest is tallest / oldest is shortest height variants haha!#they grew up together and stuck together even after the youngest was killed in a battle on Aus soil against fallout china. they all decided#to move to America and enlist (as was common) but weâre all put into seperate squads). the bombs fell and she lost track of her 3 brothers#after the whole being frozen for 210years.. perhaps they are still out there ..#Libby is just over 100 and remembers back when the super mutants actually were an organised threat.. rather than small groups#slick is only an average shot but his tactics are excellent and he has very steady hands as well as enough medical knowledge to be a useful#field doctor! he would much rather be helping than shooting anyway#Thorn is part of tangos timeline/au and because she convinces Kellogg to take her directly to the institute#none of the usual teleporter run around missions happen as well as reunions happening in almost a second time.. that has a lot of#impact on how the story changes for everyone involved!#while nathan is the present time is barely a husk of his former self albeit in a much more dangerous body#he has retains enough of his subconscious memeories to be increasingly dangerous to power armour users.. imagine if when a deathclaw picks#you up it also knows how to operate the release latch rip#typos! ocs tag#typos! tango tag#typos! Murphy tag#typos! Libby tag#typos! slick tag#typos! thorn tag#typos! Nathan tag
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These were some of the thoughts Thomas had sometimes felt in his very worst and blackest moods. Heâd always shoved them aside. And tonight of all nights, he didnât want them spoken into being. Nor had he ever expected they would be spoken into being by Edward.Â
everyone go read @mean-scarlet-deceiver's Small World if you like Timelines That Went Wrong
#live from tidmouth#creative on the mainline#thomas the tank engine#thomas & friends#thomas and friends#ttte thomas#ttte edward#edward the blue engine#fic fanart#<- yeah sure#genuinely small world is a very good insight of the fallout of It's A Splendid Life from FutureRust but its the fallout of the bad timeline#things are so different and yet....#and of course i drew the scene with edward and thomas. because i love edward and thomas' dynamic#well i think i rambled enough
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Caught The Feathered Thief! Small extra piece for @snapitkeeper! Harold is one brave man for grabbing such a cranky goose for Ozias!!
#we'll ignore the whole fo1 - fo3 timeline and just pretend Jeremy is just in every fallout timeline to cause havoc hehe#Harold just swooped the bird up without a thought all he was thinking was getting Ozias' glasses back uwu#and without a fight from the goose only very loud honking once the glasses were taken back#fallout ocs#fallout gift art#fo1#fo3#fallout Harold#Ozias
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So, a while back I was thinking that within the Fallout chronology, there's going to be a period immediately after the war where you have a shitload of mad scientists running around the wastes, people with pre-war scientific training and resources who were disproportionately likely to have survival contingencies in place via their association with the military-industrial complex, The Enclave, Vault-Tec, or whoever else would have a pet evil scientist. For a while they're just a kind of guy you can run into. Then there's going to be a big period in the middle where that initial glut of hanger-ons have died off, actual trained scientists become as rare as unicorns, and the high-science of the pre-war era becomes the stuff of legend and superstition- this is the period where you get groups like the Ciphers from the Van Buren design doc. Then like 200 years after the fact, you'd see sufficient reconstruction of civilization that you start to get new scientists, you've got the Followers setting up an actual college in the boneyard to train people, you've got the NCR setting up The Office of Science and Industry, you've got the NCR going door-to-door looking to draft someone with theoretical physics knowledge and expecting to succeed, scientists are once again just a type of guy you can reasonably expect to run into. If we were graphing this it'd be a big inverted bell curve.
Anyway. The sheer number of scientists running around in Fallout 3 with no obvious source of training (James, Madison Li and her staff, Pinkerton, The Surgeon, Dr. Lesko, that one guy in vault 106, Julius Banfield, there are others I'm forgetting) is not unrelated to my theory that they fucked around with the intended timeframe for the game late in development.
#fallout 3#fallout 3 timeline shift theory#fallout#thoughts#meta#fallout new vegas#fo3#fonv#fallout meta
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picked up TTW and made a new LW/courier, her name is Sunday
#fallout 3#fallout new vegas#tale of two wastelands#going back to using this place as a way to dump random art and shit that i want to archive and talk abt but where nobody will find me#i need a new art tag#uhhhh idk#warlockshmart#there#also ignoring the pedantic part of my brain that keeps reminding me#abt that one singular timeline discrepancy#so i dont ruin my own fun#oc: sunday
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I'm never going to be over the meta of Copper Howard the actor being pushed to play a role where he's the "one man pushed too far" because that's what the corporate overlords want the hero to be. But here we (me) are frantically obsessing over the "good guy pushed to far" that Amazon and the writers allowed and created.
We are no better than the audiences of pre-war society. We want the same kind of character, the same kind of narrative.
And then there's Lucy, the "Sheriff " who still believes in right and wrong and community values.
Will we still root for Lucy if she keeps her promises to herself? Or do we relish her descent into the same pit of moral relativity Cooper inhabitants because it's the narrative that sells and comforts best???
#the ghoul#lucy maclean#fallout meta#the commentary is coming from inside the house#like I'm obsessed with the âback and forthâ timeline storytelling for Cooper#its great character and world building while adding tension and mystery#but we gotta admit we're no better than the theoretical audience#fallout#cooper howard#shits got more layers than a goddamn ogre
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LISTEN LISTEN NORM??? NORM??????? Norm didn't deserve to be locked away foreversies I wanted him to deactivate all their cyro pods like Fo4
norm maclean has done nothing wrong ever in his life ever and even if he did i would support him
#also i cannot fucking believe that is RICO SUAVE we are literally living in the best possible timeline#answered#norm maclean#fallout prime
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RIP Paladin Danse, you would've loved The Cranberries
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Hear me out (or don't... it's fine I'm just venting and mean) yeah um I don't believe Chakotay was saved in Prod*gy s2.
#the 'time travel' makes no sense when you think on it. What happened to Prime Chakotay? He got killed they showed that.#At the end s1 Janeway finds an 'alternate chakotay in an alternate timeline' and that's the one they go and get#we saw the original get merc'd in the message. That ACTUALLY happened. Lmao.....#They didn't prevent THAT death because they didn't go to THAT Solum with the Infinity and stop it from happening#instead it was 'ALTERNATE#' implying other.#OG Chakotay wasn't taken over by the alternative one either nothing suggests that was the direction for him in s2#they didn't do anything like 'well you see chakotay because at the end of s2 when we converged timestreams you have merged with your other'#if they did want to recover the original from s1 then keep that clear instead of being convoluted dont use an alternate timeline wtf#instead the plot was focused on gywns stupid fucking paradox plot and her being fixed#chakotay was the one in a paradox too did that not matter nah dw about it he had to die for this outcome or someshit lmao why#In the extended message given to admiral janeway it shows him clearly getting left behind and surrounded. Sadly no one intervened.#I dont understand why they couldnt have just made s2 about his rescue alone IF they took their time it wouldnt be so difficult#to follow#above that the one they rescued was ruined by the 10 year gap so he wasn't 'saved' at all. God i hate s2 when you break it apart#I dunno the more i look at s2 Janeway and Chakotay the more upsetting it is. Janeway would NOT have settled for an imposter.#everyone going goo-goo gaa gaa over s2 but it's sloppy af imo and undermines a huge portion voyagers struggles#id really like them to flatly lay out their ideas because literally nothing ive heard explains the story or choices of s2 with conviction#instead it's oh clap for wesley or the new vulcan and other references yay#describe to me your timetravel clearly and i'll happily take a seat on it (there is still other crap stuff mind you)#this is the most repressed shit i my head i swear#im angry because s1 is so clearly mapped out to a brilliant degree and for whatever reason it's not in s2#i can see through it#insultingly people are eating it up and claiming it's better than ever nah dawg embarrassing#there are nice ideas inside s2 but they arent adequately rewarded#it doesnt compare to the timetravel in other trek because they kept it clear#i mean it could have been an interesting parallel to endgame but in the end janeway didnt even rescue him lmao they dropped her#why bother building up this mission only for her to give up and go 'i'll hand it over because im told to'. Janeway had fuck all this season#let alone settle for not fixing her own timeline and her own friends deadly circumstance dw just grab another one from the shelf i guess#the emotional fallout was absolutely missed because they didnt elaborate on anything. Plenty of show but no substance from the characters
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im genuinely confused why everyone is so pressed about the timeline thingy in the fallout show about shady sands
like didnt we go over this in the very first fallout game in 1997?????? DID I MISS SOMETHING OR??
#fallout#fallout new vegas#fallout 4#fallout 3#fallout prime#amazon#shady sands#1997#the ghoul#maximus fallout#lucy maclean#timeline
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