#fakecel

[manixxpanix]

[zoomvis]

None of these words are in the bible.

[american-boyboss]

[manjicore]

Do you have a boyfriend?

Damn I've never gotten asks here but yes i do

[kimjimagery]

Fully body of the my criminal fox Reynard. Reynard © KimJ

[manixxpanix]

:(

oh to be loved by a poet … 🎀

[manixxpanix]

[barleyo]

so sick of attractive white women claiming to be femcels. no, you're attention seeking and you literally have six boyfriends and men constantly in your dms. i understand attractive women have insecurities, but they're ruining spaces made specifically for those who are actually unattractive

[enig-og-tro]

[manixxpanix]

(it’s self sabotage)

[maretriarch]

theres not going to be a 4b movement you stupid slut theres not even going to be regular feminism. or a swimming pool.

[thxrunaways]

Decided to stop being a neet and actually. do something with my life. Sad!

[manixxpanix]

me tbh

My thoughts exactly

[omegaversereloaded]

do you guys wanna hear about how i got punished for being cringe or how i may enter my fakecel era soon

[manixxpanix]

guys i’m a fakecel, i had sex today 😔

[lebensmudewing]

Incels are not the (only) problem

They are males with low mate value, probably autistic or with terrible personalities. I don't buy for a single moment the idea that they are inherently ugly men, but more likely "mentalcels".

There are studies on them and they are most likely to have an external locus of control, mental illness, autism and obviously hostile misogyny and more prone to believe in rape myths. But they are not uniquely conservatives or alt-righters, nor fully "blackpilled", there are incels out there who don't believe in manosphere ideologies.

Blackpill is a set of beliefs around dating and women, it's often said that it is based on evolutionary psycology and biological determinism. But I disagree, there is evidence that these people can't read properly any study on the topic. Blackpill says that women are always looking for "Chad" and only tolerate regular males, that women are more superficial than men and that female choice is creating more incels.

Incels, in their communities, recognize that there are plently of men who are "fakecels". Men who are not virgins or even men who get laid on a regular basis, but support blackpill and manosphere ideologies. And also suggest that there are men who disagree with manosphere ideologies but are incels themselves.

What I see is that there are more men and people in general talking about incels as a male issue and using manosphere ideologies to explain inceldom than incel men promoting misogyny or blackpill ideology.

In that regard, the blackpill community who have more audience than incel content is MGTOW. And there is evidence that incel and MGTOW communities are growing and are more toxic and misogynistic than PUA and Redpill communities. Those are men who have experience with women, men who still sleep with women or hire prostituted women, men who have female co-workers, classmates or even daughters.

I see that what is happening is that, since regular people bought the "disbalance" in the dating market caused by women and accepted the term "incel", nowadays there are more men who are prone to identify with that label. I have seen 16 yo teens call themselves incels because this whole "male loneliness epidemic" and manosphere narrative includes early sexual experiences in the package, and since they are not having sex like "Chad", they see themselves as unsuccesful with women.

And also, they are more likely to be dragged to blackpill content. There are content creators who have been profiting from making blackpill youtube videos, and provide services of "objective rating inside the dating market". They re earning money by spreading harmful ideas about women and by sharing a kind of painful epistemology; the more inflammatory the idea is, the more truthful is.

The major displays of incel violence against women are not isolated, but they are also downplayed or excused within those communities and bystanders. It's seen like a feminist hysteria to call Elliot Rodger an incel who killed because of his misogyny and beliefs. Male surpremacism is not being met with instant censorship and banning on major social media plataforms, but it is subjected to a constant analysis, debate and support even from the most unexpected places,

Researchers have wasted time on it, multiple youtubers and social media content has been dedicated to this issue. And they usually call for empathy for "incel men". It's like most people are blind to incel misogyny, they are asking women to be empathetic with men who constantly express on the internet that women are inferior.

They are also victimized, it is said that is incredible that such innocent men with "complex feelings" are being labeled as terrorists and male supremacists, and it is taken as another proof of a "gynocentric society".

I see Rodger as a major piece in these scenario. It is assumed of him that he was just an isolated autistic kid, and sometimes, assumed that he believed in the blackpill. While I recognize that he held misogynistic and male supremacists ideas, in his manifesto there are observations about women who are not coherent with blackpill ideology.

He says that women he desired were dating men much more unfit than himself, something that according to blackpill ideology doesn't happen. Rodger also expressed that he wanted to date a blonde bombshell in order to obtain status among other men.

For me it seems like he wasn't interested in dating women for the sake of it, since he expressed to other men that he saw as something useless to try to talk to women and be kind in order to obtain a relationship. He was trying to compete with other men and feel validated and accepted by them.

The problem was not his desires of dating not being fullfilled, but his need of wanting to be in a higher position within men's hierarchy and men rejecting him for not achieving a major requirement. He grew resentful since his entitlement wasn't fulfilled. I also want to point out that he wasn't a real incel; he didn't try every single thing on the planet in oder to get laid and he was still young. There are plently of late bloomers in the world who lose the V card in their mid twenties.

My point is reinforced when I see incels talking about not wanting to pay for sex, because is not about sex, is not about being a virgin. Is about getting validation and being seen as a real man, a sexual being.

It's not women, it's not sex, it's nor virginity or celibacy. MGTOW ones preach that robots will replace women, but they don't offer sexdolls to incels even after performing empathy towards them. It is about being in a higher position, it is about their entitlement.

If all women were having sex with all men no matter what, I'm sure these men would find another reason to complain, another reason to compete each other, another reason to create and reinforce a hierarchy throught humilliation and labels.

I think that there are celibate men who have no problem with it, the same way I think there are men who are not virgins or celibates, but pursue their domination over women in order to feel better with themselves. They are the ones running the whole show with the excuse of feeling it for incels, they will pretend empathy and concern about society only to spread male supremacy rethoric.

It's not enough to understand incel men or recognize their more terrible acts, but the whole gearing around it.