#fake holivia article in vogue

[alarrytale]

Everyone is talking about a joint photoshoot for vogue because of the recent developments but um... idk is that generally done? I admit outside of H I only listen to more alternative pop artists who don't do these type of promo so I'm not well informed. Do new celebrity couples do that? Appear in magazines together for an editorial after 2 months in the spotlight? Can anyone give examples? I so don't see that happening. I think people who are comparing it to holivia in RS are forgeting that him and o had a joint project which was at least on paper the main topic of that article. Harry and Taylor don't have anything similar except if loewe drops something like, tomorrow. And vogue is a fashion magazine so what else could they do for it. I think people are panicking a bit haha and that it's way more likely that one of them will do an editorial solo, most likely her, and he was on that walk to help bring more attention to it cuz let's be fr noone is running after tr, lambert and whoever from vogue to take a picture. I don't know why they don't call the paps tho, it would just be easier.

I have no idea, i'm as clueless as you. It seems like H is on Anna Wintour and EE's good side so even if it's not been done before, it still might happen with them. They did put H on the cover as the first man in a dress. So i wouldn't count it out. It would be to promo l*ewe of course (and their heterosexuality). I think people are just speculating and preparing for worst case scenarios. Just to not be surprised and disappointed if it happens. It's fake though so we all know how this ends. We just got to brace ourselves for a shitstorm (or not) before we get there.

[mychampagne-mybubbles]

Sustainability is sexy such as including saliva into our beauty routine

I am still trying to understand the purpose of this article further than to put there the stunt names including the brands (clicks? damn! guilty! but just for scientific matters) and how a written interview with the known "official" stunt media cover: Vogue can be so... weirdly done.

I am gonna break down some of the doubts that left me with that look on my face: 🤨 Maybe... as a therapeutic process for my own sanity.

So the first surprise came in when I discovered she is a "brand activist". A term that I have never listened linked to her before, maybe that's why I don’t really understand the principles this article stands for; since for me that should involve social change, and believe me not in nor out the article she appears as these type of leader. Makes me wonder on which grounds is she making "the change" other than applying these products on her skin.

Oh yeah... and using saliva in her beauty routine... ofc, that's very sustainable oriented sexy

The market & the target:

What is it with the "indulgent" feeling? Why is she SO concerned about it? I get how the message is to encourage people to use skincare but... is this really the reason that is holding consumers back? Is this a general feeling? Maybe in California (land of the brand's origin?)

Not gonna go into the brand mission or the nuances she uses to sink support it, since I guess they are satisfied with the interview. But there are A LOT of brands out there that are concerned and working on protecting the environment…and standing as an eco friendly brand to the affirmation of "being good for" the ecosystem (let me doubt it, and if it's so… give me some for my plants! 🌿) I find clear distanced points. but OK!

The Stunt: Main characters

"...Wilde, who has become increasingly under the microscope following her separation from longtime fiancé Jason Sudeikis and new relationship with Harry Styles, to decide how she wants to present herself as a woman and mother."

She has become what?! Is more likely to picture it as if she has thrown herself under the train... of the camera's lens.

This wedge is irrelevant and makes me even miss Jeff my brain must have created that union instinctively out of seeing them so much together to keep on some coherency with reality.

Avoiding what???

HELP!!!! What does this mean? Who thinks sustainability is that? Seriously who is driving her polls??

It is or it isn't indulgent??? Your perception or a general?

Again the "indulgent" feeling... She links the connection with our bodies, being grateful for them, interacting with them through skincare... it tries to make it too deep & complicated for a cream with as much sensory characteristics tbh... or maybe I'm short on 🍄

Sharing the personal experience

I mean... she did not... I can't even say a word about this.

"It’s really funny because it’s the Nalgene water bottle. The most simple, old-school one is the size that I don’t mind having with me everywhere. It’s a step in the right direction. It’s still, you know, made of plastic, so it’s not the best thing in the world. I also have the titanium ones. But I’ve moved fully away from plastic, like the Fiji water bottles that I used to have everywhere. And I was like, This has to stop. I can’t participate in that. And it is, again, baby steps. I’m finally driving a car. I feel really good about it. I usually was in New York and not needing a car,"

Then she ends up talking about plastic water bottles and driving electric cars. I get the feeling that she wants to present herself as that brand activist, but she cannot deny what we have seen so many times despite she is avoiding the social media trap... right?

Even though the article is complicated, I think I have got down to this point where she is simply adding more tags to her "owned" long list of versatile, honorable and valuable titles if they were true: The woman, the feminist, the fighter, the representative to a generation, the mother, the single mother, the worker, the attractive, the committed, the businesswoman, the expertise, the eco-friend(ly), the spiritual, the sensitive, the family-oriented, the mature... and a long etcetera.

Everything tore down before even reading the first word, knowing where she is standing. Witnessing her performances.

[twopoppies]

I don't ususally like what ifs. But do you think tour would’ve been different if Holivia never happened, even with the ws narrative. like there was vogue, then harry being all goofy in the golden Mv, then TPWK, then grammy win, and a movie "for women" (without people thinking he's fucking his director on the side), my policeman. I really can't seem to shake it, like even with the push on ws, Holivia beeing a big push back in the closet seems to me what actually brought the het back more heavily, or they were there already just have more to cling on which makes them more bold. Louve yout Gina! Have a good evening

Yeah, for me Holivia is what really sealed the deal of this crappy image. It's like the media once again only cares about who he's dating. WS was released well over a year ago. And so many good things happened after that. He really seemed to be making great strides to change his image. But I think the suits see that het Harry wins Grammys and Holivia gets headlines. The fucked up thing is that there were so many songs on Fine Line that deserved a Grammy more than Watermelon Sugar did. And Harry's sold out tour deserves more than just endless articles about his fake girlfriend going to the gym and him wearing her hat.

I was saying to a friend earlier today that if they hadn't dumped Holivia on us, they would have had a huge portion of this fandom in their corner ready to goto bat for this movie and for Olivia. But now everyone is sick of her and is angry about what a circus this has turned into.

I really look forward to seeing the end of her. But I have a feeling she's going to be like herpes and never really go away.

[1d-discourseoftheday]

Tues 26 Jan ‘21

Louis tweeted “How's everyone doing?” No Louis, HOW ARE YOU DOING?? “Alright thanks!” he says. It's the third time this month he's checked on us but does that Mean anything? Says SBB himself, “You lot read into things too much” HAHAHAHHAAAA SKSKKDJ WE LEARNED IT FROM YOU MOM!!  Well WHY is MTV posting about Copy then?? asked a fan in a very GOTCHA tone but Louis has an unarguable answer: “because it's a banger.” Well alright alright you got us there, that's very true. He says many other little things too including Strong Opinions about breakfast food (“pancakes obviously” ...was that in fact ...obvious??) and talking about a sports related series he's watching-- it really is about basketball this time unlike UFC! He also tells us that he tried to talk to Liam “earlier” “but he was in Tesco”. A fan posted that he replied to a their DM- a picture of their cat pawing adoringly at a pic of Louis- and said “this put me in such a good mood haha! Love the little lad. Bless him x”, but then later they said they it was fake, sorry. A convincing Louis imitation, but more to the point a very convincing screen record video showing the exchange: please remember this next time such a video is offered as proof for something.

Niall is in the studio with his favorite collaborators, Eskeerdo and John Ryan! The man does value consistency in all things, no question, but you know what they say- if it ain't broke, don't fix it! Despite a Morning Mashup snippet from yesterday where he agreed with the host that maybe their little kid shouldn't be exposed to Small Talk, we know he is happy with the Heartbreak Weather sound, so why not more of the same? The only question I have is: when?

Zayn's sponsorship deals continue to be increasingly wacky; today it's a coloring app! The Nobody Is Listening coloring book is now available; as usual, things I really could NOT have predicted happening every single day around here. Liam's sponsorship is less wacky today: a new Hugo pic posted.

And the greatest showmance of our generation continues to amaze, astound, and crack me the F up-- first up, in hands down the funniest thing to happen all week, Harper’s Bazaar retitled a Holivia timeline article with the headline “Sorry everyone, Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles' romance isn't a PR stunt” (and added a little blurb at the end of 'a source' saying so) which is hilarious enough on its own, the DEFENSIVENESS, but THAT'S NOT ALL! The author of the article, seeing it, tweeted “I didn't even write this! It's an old article that's been updated. I DEFINITELY think it's PR...” HAHAHAHA WHAT AN ICON. She didn't lay out that whole embarrassing timeline in print to be disrespected like this, Harper’s Bazaar! But less funny, she was disrespected by more than just the magazine-- she deleted her account due to harassment after the tweet. Sighhh. Those harries sure do love to TPWK (threat). PR for this shitshow is taking a turn for the defensive all over this week, as we saw with yesterday's Vogue article; that piece seems to have been the leading edge of an iceberg that is the new angle- 'Olivia Isn't The Bad Guy Here'. Fine, yes, no one is because this ISN'T REAL so truly whatever yall, but the really hysterical thing about the Vogue piece apparently being more or less HQ dictated is that at least like half of it is just “terrible things people are saying on twitter” and “here's why twitter is annoying” and I'm ROLLING at them sinking to this level, like when you are at the point of trying to take down twitter arguments one by one you have officially LOST CONTROL OF THE CONVERSATION lmao and lbr-- they have. People simply do not think this is real and it is funnnnny. AND SPEAKING of sinking to a level and then just keeping going right down to the molten core of the earth, can I just mention that Michael Strauss, aka the guy who is suing Briana for her boobs (case was postponed; has not yet been heard), has not only been arguing in the comments over at CelebTM that NO, REALLY it's NOT WEIRD that the sonogram pic posted was clearly not Briana's and is making up stories trying to explain it, he's now doing so from his dog's account. Will his dog also be heading over to TMZ, who tweeted the article today, to argue with people one by one in those comments? We've seen a lot of dogs used for stunt purposes, but at least they never put the words in Max or Clifford's actual mouths!

[daisiesonafield-blog]

Now Vogue wrote an article defending “poor” Olivia! 🤦‍♀️

Ok, let me see if I can break this down

The way I see this, the article is not bad. And I rather agree with the point they’re making here, of not shaming women for dating younger men, of mothers dating again, of women being independent people and not reduced to simply “a mother” or “a girlfriend”. Calling out the double-standard in everyday life and the media/Hollywood of shaming women for dating after a divorce or dating younger while men dating younger women is looked at as standard and normal. 

It is honestly a needed article in the sea of of misogynistic bs out there. And with how poorly she had been looking over the last couple of weeks, it is also expected.

But overall, this article reads to me as another one in the big pile of promo for their projects and a reminder of the narrative.

 Like many of the Holivia saga articles, their focus is Olivia, her projects and accomplishments - and it makes sense in this one since it is an article defending her.

Of course it’s important to call out the tabloids for their absurd headlines. And Olivia has (predictably) been getting the blame in this “Hollywood scandal” (read ‘fake’), so I don’t think it’s bad for them to do this. The opposite actually. 

EDIT: wanted to add that this article also goes with the theme of this podcast @twopoppies mentioned today. Thanks for the reminder Gina! It is them shifting the narrative to make her look good again.

[fallingsunflower]

I always thought that this wms model thing was some sort of little stunt to prepare people for Holivia or something like that. I mean that woman posted all this around mid/ end November last year I think and I had the impression seeing how they later on threw this shitty stunt at us, that the DM thing was to show how he’s „flirty“ and shit and is into threesomes and like to „show“ that he doesn’t care if someone is in a relationship... Idk I found all these insta interactions last year, this DM thing with the wms model, comments about the election, the captions of his posts for the Vogue cover and that „bring back manly men“ etc pretty fake and not really Harry. His team overdid it and that made me side eye the whole thing especially with that article of him being single released in December... I knew something was coming, I just didn’t knew when they would hit us with new bullshit again

I totally get that. I can't accurately give an opinion on the WMS thing because I don't remember it happening for some reason? but I definitely think it was fake. I just think she was more obsessed than anything. Do you really think Harry would dm and talk about threesomes on his personal, verified account? Probably not.

But yes that article about him being single was 100% seeding. I remember that so vividly. "He's got his options open and a couple people he'd like to get with" and then holivia came out weeks later? No way that wasn't seeded lmao

[gossiprry-backup]

I always thought that this wms model thing was some sort of little stunt to prepare people for Holivia or something like that. I mean that woman posted all this around mid/ end November last year I think and I had the impression seeing how they later on threw this shitty stunt at us, that the DM thing was to show how he’s „flirty“ and shit and is into threesomes and like to „show“ that he doesn’t care if someone is in a relationship... Idk I found all these insta interactions last year, this DM thing with the wms model, comments about the election, the captions of his posts for the Vogue cover and that „bring back manly men“ etc pretty fake and not really Harry. His team overdid it and that made me side eye the whole thing especially with that article of him being single released in December... I knew something was coming, I just didn’t knew when they would hit us with new bullshit again

😭😭

[hoochy-coo]

to be fair the mess of holivia in the beginning wasnt necessarily in part holivia's fault, like when we first got pics of holivia from the wedding and them hanging out people were eating that shit up and vogue was writing articles etc its only when it got leaked and more sources came forward on jason's side of the story shit backfired on them and i dont think they expected that backlash within a week later from the gp especially pics of them hanging out w/out masks during a covid surge too

Imo it was when Harry stans did what they usually do and did a thorough research on Olivia only to realise that she tried to plant a fake timeline all the way back in November/December last year. The Jason calling ‘People’ situation didn’t help either

[alarrytale]

Holivia was already a stunt which crossed many lines which past H’s stunt hadn’t crossed and it was a huge shitstorm painful to watch but unfortunately I have a feeling that this stunt won’t be less painful to watch. Remember that “famous” RS article which basically turned into DWD promo, H was accused from queerbaiting and what I found only recently media tried to force him to come out. OW already included herself into H’s Vogue article which came out even before the stunt went official and so - and now it’s basically confirmed when H was yesterday spotted not only with TR but also H.Lambert and that woman from BV - now we’re probably get very organic lovers photoshoot pushing their made up love story…which is another level because H never did a photoshoot with their fake gf.

Hi, anon!

What lines were crossed that weren't before with holivia, with the exception of the tattoo? He's done everything else before, he just didn’t have a relationship last long enough to cram everything into one.

I think this will be less painful to watch, just because TR seems less full of herself, less chaotic energy and not doing the performative unorganic feminism shit. Just not having to deal with that is already better to me. Things might change, but for now she's more of a cami*le than an O.

You found out media tried to out him? I think that's hearsay and not true. Also he'll have to deal with more queerbaiting accusations if he continues to stunt. I think we're due for more hussell and it will be shoved down our throats. I don't think a photoshoot is another level as you say. It's more of the same we've had before. I don't see why seeing them photographed in a studio as a couple is worse than seeing them papped as a couple on a street? It's not anymore official or real if it's in Vogue than in the daily mail?

[mychampagne-mybubbles]

In this public battle between queer “purity” and media baiting and taking advantage of it, what we could summary as Billy Porter the apathy queer fellow vs Vogue. Variety comes in and positions itself in the Eternals’ red carpet.

Variety named Harry hit maker of the year 2020 that let us a sus scripted acceptance speech and a wide article naming everyone in the Styles ferris Wheel that you can think of.🎡 Even Vogue: “Last month Styles became the first male to grace the cover of Vogue solo.”

As a final addition, fans weren’t very happy with how Louis was portrayed in it:

Vogue has been the undeniable stunt base of operations; while Variety was the second command center coinciding in time but left behind right when this started.

Time for Variety to enjoy its piece of the Harry cake?

Will see if this finally brings a public white flag on the media too; as I see nothing random in these series of “casualties”. 👀

I CREATED THE CONVERSATION AND YET...

Dear Mr Porter,

10 months has taken you to come down to the idea that Vogue’s and to the extend Harry’s choice (or team’s) on that November 2020 cover wasn’t the best decision to ‘represent the new conversation’ on fashion.

As a fan, I can say that it hurts many of us to see how Harry's image appears distant from who he really is; and therefore, can't defend himself from the accusations that you have spit and thus explain what reasons led all those involved in making the unanimous decision on the cover and why he, in particular, felt comfortable with it without damaging his career. To do this, he would have to expose himself, make statements that can be compromising and that he does not want/are not convenient at this point; it's not fair, how this would be the only way to make the public understand how his motivations are stronger than they may seem and not only about figures.

These statements are quite surprising coming from someone that stands for tolerance, considering the values ​​you support and the injustices that happen in this industry and you recall to be aware of. Since Harry's (official) image is ultimately what it is, I'll go along with your speech: yes, Harry is a white young successful man but has not labeled his sexuality publicly to date.

Deep into your declarations & checking with your path, I can assure you have not created COLLABORATED in keeping the binary conversation in fashion, but I want to highlight that thank goodness many already wore skirts if we can simplify it into that. MANY!

I might be wrong, but reading into your statements seems like you defend that only "some" are worthy of such a cover because they have been struggling over a lifetime, fighting against the system, etc...if you only knew but what if the movement that was intended to be reflected is not the one you have assumed to be? what if it is to support the elimination of boundaries between what is considered to be feminine and masculine, as a symbol of freedom and tolerance with oneself and with others (regardless of sexuality), ironic that it has awakened this situation, ha?. It is not necessary to explain that there are many colors and ways of understanding one's sexuality, with which, have you thought that Harry is speaking the language of an existing social group? What if the fact that not labeling his sexuality publicly permits each individual to read into this event differently and therefore reach a wider audience?

However, you are concerned enough, which makes me think that maybe you see how this can be representative, is that the issue a posible threat?Isn't it ultimately your interpretation of what the cover could represent that led you to claim a limiting imposition? "Only a masculine queer person can wear dresses." I'm confused... Say it clearly, who would you have liked to see on that cover?

Of course, it is a controversial move, and that says a lot about the society we live in; these statements, that show Harry's choices empty of principles, also speak volumes. I just hope that you find softer judgments in your journey and no one has to resort to putting you in the spotlight for gaining a few clicks or popularity using such sensitive topics when people cannot speak up.

Disclaimer: There are infinite details that touch this topic and that are not shown in this brief post and that should be in order to make a fair breakdown of what we are facing here, so please no offense to anyone. We all know how Harry’s image is portrayed and why, how he is not the only one in the industry and how does that works. Making the small movements that he is capable of making a poor one for being taken as privileged, hurts. I cannot isolate his own bts fights from this situation.