#explaining butch and femme
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Tilly and Harlow artdump since Tiktok liked them so much!! 🎃🦇
#hallowives#halloween#spooky#ocs#witch#vampire#lesbian#wlw#sapphic#butch#femme#butchfemme#original characters#character design#art#im kinda tempted to make sheets explaining more about their characters#like info sheets#so ppl can get a feel for them a bit more!!#halloworld
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butch who will sit through an introduction of every stuffed animal i own (and shake their hands to make a polite first impression)
#then let me explain the origin of every single piece of decoration in my room#(there’s a lot)#femme#femme lesbian#butchfemme#femme4butch#butch4femme#wlw#lesbian#sapphic#butch bait
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Do I know what literally anything in astrology means? No.
Do I keep my full chart ready on hand for pretty femmes who will inevitably ask? Yes.
#ive learned enough times#no one will explain it to me#but thats okay#watching witchy femmes faun over the chart makes me happy#bite me#butch#nonbinary#nblw#wlw#lesbian#sapphic#butch4femme#femme appreciation
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“well what does butch and femme even mean!!”
butch = complete rejection of femininity, and reclamation of masculinity (as a woman or nonbinary lesbian) to solely attract other women/sapphics.
femme = subversion and reclamation of femininity (as a woman or nonbinary lesbian) to solely attract other women/sapphics
These two identities are gender nonconforming due to the fact that womanhood itself is defined as a compliment to manhood. Historically, womanhood was only considered to serve men. Lack of attraction to men has oftentimes defined lesbians as “failed women”. For example, you can see this in how medical gatekeeping forces trans women to have to perform hyperfemininity and heterosexuality in order to receive access to transition care because those standards were considered the defining features of womanhood. This gatekeeping was significantly more widespread in the past (and I hesitate to say if that’s gone away in the present).
Butch and femme are two sides of the same coin. Counterparts. They are nouns, complete identities, not just descriptions. Butches protect femmes, femmes protect butches. They are also not mandatory or required to be a lesbian, so it’s not necessary to fit into either category. They are not “another gender binary.”
Butches are not “basically men” and they do not benefit from masculinity. Femme does not inherently mean hyper feminine, and it does not require performing patriarchally imposed expressions of femininity (such as wearing make-up, shaving, only wearing dresses). Butches and femmes are still butches and femmes even when wearing plain t-shirts and pants some days. It’s not an outfit to take on and off.
“Futch” does not exist as a material identity because butch means a strict rejection of femininity, while femme is a subversion of femininity. There are also roles that are considered with butch and femme, while futch does not have anything of the sort. “Futch” = neither, essentially.
This post is meant to be simple to get the basic idea across, as there’s more aspects to butch/femme culture that I didn’t go over. Butch and femme also involves specific behaviors in relation to courtship, roles, or protection of each other. You can read stone butch blues to get a better idea of that aspect as a starting point. That’s all! 👋
#lesbiansafe#lesbian#butch#femme#ok to rb !#i didnt go into my personal experiences as a femme#but my nonbinarism and femmeness feels like the result of ‘failed woman’ a lot of the time#i cant go super deep into lesbian bar culture and I mainly wanted to explain the dynamics of modern butches n femme
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the true butch femme experience is alternating the name I moan for my butch because they have funky gender and don't mind which name I use
#idek how to explain this yanno#he's collecting pronouns and names like Pokémon cards#mysticfemme's post#butch femme#butch4femme#femme4butch#lesbian nsft
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Doing this new challenge where I try not to feel extreme pain and loneliness everytime I see a lesbian couple in public
#just saw one at the bus stop and the butch was holding the femmes thigh in such a sweet way#idk even know to explain it
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me and my 40 year old straight coworker discussing chappell roan while we should be working
#dont even know why im surprised i knew he had good taste but fhsjsgdh did not expect him to know chappell#this came up while i was explaining to a coworker (bisexual) what a bear is#and this guy cuts in like 'yeah if i was gay i'd be an considered an otter' and he was RIGHT?!?! insane weird little gay knowledge in him#i did have to explain to him what butch and femme were though seems he knows the gays but not the lesbians#work struggles#chappell roan
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Seiharumichi doodle dump....
#seiharumichi#seiya kou#haruka tenoh#michiru kaioh#haruka x seiya x michiru#sailor neptune#sailor uranus#sailor star fighter#theyre the sun moon and stars...#here we are the future.............#so many headcanons built this ship i couldnt explain to you in one post why i love and adore these three so much#two butch husbands and their beautiful femme wife...
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inspired by this lovely post:
#this is the second time i’ve posted about the extended family au without actually explaining what it is#(the first being the one with michael and angelo at the supermarket)#ok in efau lia is already out by the time they’re all in the mm universe#but like. this is funny#i’m constantly thinking about lia and el’s dynamic. femme butch hostility#sigh. i wish i could go in detail about them#and do cool comics and a fun story arc#(which i do have plans for?)#but alas… the executive dysfunction is too powerful#100k likes and i’ll start posting more about the extended family au (/j)#tmnt leo#tmnt raph#tmnt april#april o’neil#rottmnt leo#2012 raph#mm april#transfem leo#tmnt#rottmnt#tmnt 2012#tmnt mm#this was also an excuse to put lia and april into different outfits. i’m predictable#tmnt extended family au
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IS this fic self-indulgent? absolutely. DO i care? no. i simply wanted to see lesbian cherik written how IIIIIIII want and it does not exist on this earth and so it shall now exist. thank you.
#that is to say they are both butch and they keep the names charles and erik (explained in fic dont worry about it)#THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO SEE. too many femme lesbian cheriks and while i see and support your vision#i need to offer an alternative vision for us trans dykefags and those who support this vision
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i texted my friend about having dinner with someone i used to have a long term crush on and their response was just so funny to me 💀
#they’d seen me at work hence why they knew i was indeed wearing a dress#a very cute dress mind you#me and ex crush honestly looked like we were on a butch/femme date#but i cannot stress enough how platonic it all is#just how i like it#past me however is rolling over in her grave#it is ridiculous though that i had dinner alone with her while wearing a dress 💀#i’m not sure i can even explain why#life
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I'm not entirely sure how to explain it, but she is me, I am her.
#this is toodles from tom and jerry#she's so me#but i can't explain it#the fact that one of her love interests is literally named butch#speaks volumes#i think she's my femme inspiration#i am incredibly gay today#vintage#vintage aesthetic#50s#princessposting
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thinking about my sophonts and gender again
while werewolves are matriarchal, the specific gendered distinction between men and women, for them, is that women are the "leader" gender and men are the "follower" gender. this is generally seen as women being the "political" gender, ie, that they are the ones most concerned with their lineage and standing within the internal hierarchy of the troop, interested in moving up within it and concerned with the lives of their children, as girls inherit the social standing of their mothers, while boys do not inherit any social standing at all, rather being married off to another troop as soon as possible and then moving through the independent hierarchy within the men there.
this perhaps has less to do with physical strain than people might think - werewolves have pretty low sexual dimorphism, beyond women being, on average, larger than men, but also because both genders are expected to perform physical labor and expected to be willing to fight at a moment's notice and call when needed. this is even somewhat biased towards men being expected to act as soldiers to defend the troop more often, but again, this is where the "follower" and "leader" distinction comes in. there might be more men, but they'll be seen more like soldiers and treated like thus, while women might be seen as much better suited for commanding and leadership positions.
if anything, then, the expectation for the male gender within werewolf society is more along the lines of being carefree, free-spirited, emotional, hedonistic, submissive, less-intelligent or less concerned with matters of intelligence, less-civilized, and in need of a hand to direct and control them. i can't help but compare how the male gender is viewed to how the greeks viewed satyrs and pan, being associated with wild things, but also without very much control of themselves or what they've inherited.
which does mean that, in conservative mixed human and werewolf communities, there's been a large pressure from both to avoid mixing up human genders and werewolf genders. both of them would have the idea that "this other person has put the softer, weaker gender in control in a position they are poorly suited for, and are wasting the talents of the dominant, stronger gender" related towards each other, and there'd likely be different terms and pronouns to distinguish between if the person you're talking about is a werewolf woman or human woman, and vice versa. communities with a greater majority between one or the other might just end up absorbing the gender norms of the majority group, but some with a more even split would take a lot greater pain to not mix them up.
which is then fun, because it does introduce the thought of cross-species genders within communities like this. it does delight me to have xenogenders in a community that has these genders already exist as a part of it already, as four different gender norms within the same community that matter almost more than which species they are specifically associated with in the first place.
but it also then delights me because it makes me think of this later becoming a four-gender system in the first place, more like white-throated sparrows where you have males and females, but within that you also have dominant-females and dominant-males and submissive-females and submissive-males, where the couples with the greatest "success" are specifically along the dominant/submissive axises. you could easily get it to where the greatest focus of these four genders are the dominance leaning, initially started to explain the difference between werewolf couples and human couples, but leaking out to differ between mixed werewolf/human couples too.
i like it! i like humans, just humans as they always were, humans and another species of primates, the closest other sophont to us, being the ones with the "odd" four-gender system, having more alien concepts than even catfolk, who have no long-term relationships in the slightest and little to no sexual dimorphism at all.
#all the care guide says is 'biomass'#this started to fall apart at the end because#i cant write while other people are talking or sound is playing#and someone started singing in the house so#the brain scramblies have hit#but yes. im trying to explain my reasoning for giving some humans in this universe a four-gender system#it isnt butch/femme either even if they might be tempted to sort butch/femme into this axis#its a Whole Other Thing#i really dont like how matriarchal systems in fiction are usually written#because they just. flip the gender norms.#and act like its subversive#but its also not how matriarchal systems in nature tend to work either so no ones happy about it#the tl;dr of this universe really is ''you cant go to someone else to escape all your problems. they just have their own problems too.''#''you just have to fix the problems in the first place you cant just refuse to participate and insist this other species/society is perfect#or ''every culture has its own issues buddy. lets get you a grilled cheese.''
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before i go back into hibernation again. spectra and gus' mechtanium surge designs >>>>>>>>>>> their new vestroia designs. i think they're just cooler and less messy and all over the place. i also appreciate that it does actually look like they're older which is neat. also i think gus looks kinda like a prince.
#i will say. spectra's ms outfit IS one of the gayest outfits ive ever seen.#no i wont explain. he just looks gayer. thats all u need to know.#i like to think their outfits are more coherent and better looking bc they got their lives together#nv spectra is iconic but there's just so much going on. and gus' orange coat in nv is. kinda ugly ngl#i love gus but that coat was atrocious#also the purple on spectra's ms mask makes it looks like he has eyeshadow im not the only one who sees that right#ive said this before but the funniest thing is seeing everyone in ms wearing regular clothes#and then spectra's overdramatic goth ass shows up. i love him.#like at least in nv when he was w the brawlers he took the mask and coat off. he doesn't do that in ms. at all.#id say that its like when a straight friend group has a token gay friend but like.#look me dead in the eyes and tell me that any brawler is straight. u cant. its impossible. none of them are. they told me.#i do like mira's nv design more but mostly bc im mildly annoyed they made her more femme. they should've made her more butch methinks.
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the only girl i'll ever love is andrew in drag ass day today -> 😁
#11am wake up. put on castiel outfit. go to my lesbian reading club. talk to the lesbians comma middle aged#they compliments my outfit. i think i dont have time to explain why i (femme) wore this today. i say yeah im doing butch today#they go yesss girl fluidity slay. but it's castiel.#see my friend she compliments my outfit. i pull up castiel image on my phone. she goes oooh cause he was gay right? RIGHT#we talk shit crazy amounts of shit talked. friend leaves wishing me a good castiel fag day#i run into people from my other book club in line for the magnetic fields#magnetic fields play. singer stays a while signing stuff. and the only thing i have on me is giovanni's room#great use of 12 hours#look its my face
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this clip of changbin feels me w such immense joy, specifically the pose. it is such a grand pose and it’s so masc, masc in the way that I and other lesbians express our pride as mascs or butches. it reminds me of readings where a butch is happy to pose for their femme. just that very over the top masculinity but it’s still playful, and that’s exactly what I aim for too. He’s so purely happy to be masculine and prideful of his body and it makes me so happy to recognize the same things within me that are in him
#me practically calling changbin a Butch here:.. FHSKDB he’s got honorary butch traits and I stand by that#he turns with such excitement#it’s charming in the same way that a Butch is charming#i don’t think I phrased any of this right if I’m honest.. I never really have the right words to describe femme and butch and masc things#that I’m passionate about (even if it’s just a concept or an idea I have)#it’s just like.. it’s like your friend coming up to you and telling you something that they’re excited and proud of with no other intentions#than just wanting to share that with you and your heart swells because you’re excited and proud for them too BUT you also have a complete#understanding of why they’re excited and proud and if it were you - you would be doing the exact same thing#it’s just such a butch/masc clip!!!!!! you’re kidding dude#i have no other words to explain why it makes me so happy#as they say. I am you I see me in you#changbin#m
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