#except when they need to be passive aggressive to me. lol. i miss them. but they just dont wanna talk to me :/
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bunnihearted · 11 months ago
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#journal dump bc i have too much on my mind#1) i HATE my neighbors. theres never one quiet moment. they stomp around and slam cabinets all the time it feels like#2) ​i've been reading more recently even if concentration's hard bc of noise. but i also feel like there r too many books i wanna read#but yeah. too little time. so instead i cant settle on a book and kinda dont even read as much as i want to. a stupid problem really#3) it's crazy to say but i wish i had a part time job. sitting at home 24/7 for 5/6 years has been SO terrible for me.#everything feels meaningless. every day is the exact same. im not LIVING. im rotting away and all my issues get worse. im also so fkn bored#and i dont wanna sit at home and do assignments (even if thats what i technically should be doing)#i want a job to go to which takes me away from home + gives me money#then i can come home and sit and rot and ENJOY it. bc now my lazy time is only smth negative and bad for me :/#ofc i hate the mere thought of having some soul sucking utterly pointless job and our capitalist society is a slave hellhole. but.. as it is#im not even able to enjoy ANY of my time bc all my time feels bad. plus im only getting poorer and poorer so i cant afford to buy anything#4) im so fkn bored and going crazy from eating the exact same food every single day for the third month now. im sick of it#everything tastes so bland and disgusting. it's genuinely making me depressed 😭 i wanna eat REAL food. im so tired bc no nutrition :((#i cant do anything except wait for my appt w the doctor next week and hope they put me on a waiting list for surgery.. but ong im sick of it#5) i miss my sisters :/ we live in the same apartment but its like i've completely ceased to exist to them#except when they need to be passive aggressive to me. lol. i miss them. but they just dont wanna talk to me :/#but tbh. most of all... i just want my health issue to be over so my body can function normally again.#i can face anything in life if i can come home to a cup of coffee nd some chocolate ^-^ <333
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damnfandomproblems · 4 months ago
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Okay, it may be time for another one of these sort of inbox reply compilation posts, regarding the same post Problem #5168 and the ensuing reply exchange.
One more reply from the OP of #5168, responding to this ask:
Being passive aggressive and acting superior is ALSO rude. Therefore, since it was done in reply to my submission, i have every right to swear and tell that person where they can shove it. Im not trying to say you cant give me what i give you. Swear at me too if you want. Idgaf. I just refuse to be told how to speak. People wanna act like they no longer take me seriously because i swear, but decide to argue with me and tell me they dont like that i swear. Make it make sense. idk why I'm being singled out lol. Maybe because I'm actually responding to it. Hardly do i ever curse at people. I didnt call anyone a bitch or use any particularly offensive language or anything. All my cursing in my submission was used to express my anger with the exception of telling vague people to fuck off. I swore only 8 times. Yet the first anon that submission got acted like it was truly difficult for their pure, swearword free mind to read. Like seriously how does cursing and being angry make something "hard to read"? They must have a hard time reading everything here. Honestly i think they should look to read somewhere else because this blog is all about people's problems. Everyone's angry about something or another. Ig my submission was just tooo angry for people. Guess i crossed a line by being angry and cursing in my submission. Its such a stupid thing to argue about too cuz most of these people agree to some extent but for some reason they just cant handle me being upset? I can't wrap my head around why they care so damned much about whether or not an argument has swearwords or not. There's literally no need for me to censor myself here.
And a few others' replies, regarding this exchange.
Anon:
My dude, you're accusing others of missing the point, yet in your very first paragraph you're already going on about "professionalism" when that's not what anyone else was talking about. You're putting words in their mouths.
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Anon:
This is becoming such a strange conversation... Even if someone is being passive aggressive and or a dick to you, stooping to their level and then some by telling them to shove a post up their ass is just childish. Secondly, are you willingly ignoring how that anon pointed out that nobody cared if you responded "professionally", it was about just doing the bare minimum? "Professional" is a pretty wild word to use, nobody was suggesting you have to sound like you're working as a bank teller. Maybe the other anon pulled something out of their ass but where did "professional" come from but your own ass...? I don't know, just reading this whole thing is just perplexing me. ^^;;;
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Anon:
Can the two people arguing through the askbox get a room already
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Anon:
So this whole "fuck" debacle is happening, and I can't stop laughing because all I can think of is this scene: https://youtu.be/PmCLeTqD4hY?feature=shared&t=44
(It is a YouTube link to a clip from the South Park Movie)
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jiminrings · 4 years ago
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they're interactions would prob be always in campus like at the library, class or even in a café or sth cuz i don't think stem!koo is the type to go to parties eXCEPT he's dragged invited to a party and approaches y/n since they share classes and are kinda acquaintances
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stem koo isn’t for the party scene and absolutely doesn’t know any better
cold senior!y/n x stem major!koo masterlist :D
jungkook wants to go anywhere but here
literally ANYWHERE
he’d actually enjoy studying on a friday night than to be here, a party, where he doesn’t know anyone besides jimin
JIMIN WHO ALREADY DISAPPEARED AND LEFT HIM?!??]%^{]!
it hasn’t even been a full hour since they arrived???
how the fuck did that guy even manage to talk him into accompanying him into this party :O
oh right
“i think i have a friend who has a friend that makes your lunches. it’s jUST a hunch but-“
jimin didn’t even manage to finish his sentence and jungkook already agreed
jungkook doesn’t care for the party scene at all. he doesn’t.
but that doesn’t mEAN that he doesn’t care for what other people think about him
he cares about your input pLS don’t say it to his face when it’s negative :((
uhhh he doesn’t exactly have party clothes
by party clothes, he doesn’t have what jimin has in his clothes
jeon jungkook does not own a sparkly sheer black long-sleeve shirt :D nor some leather pants :D or even a button-down shirt that in fact, does not have any buttons :D
what kook DOES have is a new red hoodie that he hasn’t worn before
it’s a red hoodie and that’s the equivalent of him dipping his toes in lava!!!
it’s spicy enough as it is
the only other change he’s gonna make is how the fuck he’s gonna tackle his myopia
he traded in his glasses for contacts tonight!!
they’re just clear and he might’ve had to struggle for thirty minutes to try and pop them in,,, inclusive of pep talks,,, but it’s still new!!!
(his glasses case is in his hoodie pocket)
that should be enough
the only thing that jungkook is lacking now is a familiar person
..... a familiar person.... who is in turn a safety blanket..... a comforting figure anongst strangers...... in a completely different environment
no
god there hAS to be a way that jungkook can find jimin so he could get home with ease, while simultaneously (passive-aggressively) chewing him out for abandoning him
easy!!! just easy breaths!!!!
it’s just like navigating a circuit that you made that you know the schematics of!!
only difference is that you didn’t make this circuit and there are no instructions!!!!!!!!!
<3 he’s doomed <3
jungkook bumps to numerous people and at some point, someone stopped him, nodded, and gave him a cup
what’s he SUPPOSED to with it????
alright think
a couch!!! yeah!!!!
jimin could be there and could be sitting because who doesn’t love sitting? right? why do people in parties not sit on couches exactly
“pick up, please. just pick up...” he keeps muttering under his breath, peering urgently to wherever his eyes could land on
OH MY GOD
IT’S THE BLONDE HAIR!!!!!
that must be jimin
“man, that was not cool! how could you-...”
jungkook immediately claps his hand to blondie’s back, even squeezing the flesh when he realizes that.... oh? why is the fabric not as coarse as what a glittery sheer shirt would be?
.... holy shit
that is definitely not jimin.
?!/!/!!/%]^]^[^^]
it’s his senior!!!!
his senior who’s blonde and looks intimidating and soft at the same time but dEFINITELY looks intimidating rn
d-did he just clap min yoongi’s shoulder
yoongi looks the furthest thing from pleased and it’s his sharp eyes that make jungkook’s impossibly wider
“i-i’m so sorry. i am so, so sorry-...”
his senior only casts a look to the person beside him, deciding to stand and completely walk away from jungkook
he is so.,,., lost
yoongi looks at you from beside your seat beside him and only pinches your thigh, making you knit your brows in irritation
WHAT WAS THAT FOR
did he literally just walk away from you
what was that about ://
you turn your head for what could be yoongi’s old trick, only seeing a face you clearly did not expect to be here
jungkook recognizes you before you could recognize him, chest immediately deflating
“y/n!!!!!”
oh that’s him alright
you sigh slowly, “jungkook.”
the boy wastes no time in eagerly yet shyly sitting beside you, occupying yoongi’s deserted spot
the cushion’s still warm tho
“thank god you’re here. i-i don’t know anyone in this party.”
your eyebrows raise at that, clearly finding no thought to it. “you should leave if you don’t know anyone here, jungkook.”
“b-but you’re here, so i’m good!” jungkook nods, correcting his statement, “i came here with my friend but he’s missing now.”
what???
that’s unsafe!!!!
who is this friend and why do you feel like giving him some stern words >:|
“i mean, i am here but you don’t want to be here.”
right
.... you’re right
jungkook clearly glosses over to what you just said because you are eXACTLY right
yeah sure he found you but that doesn’t necessarily mean he wants to be in this party
it’s nice he found someone familiar but it doesn’t mean he wants to stay!!!!
you could only chuckle under your breath, drinking from your cup and planning your route to find yoongi throughout
“you should probably go home, jungkook.”
the boy visibly mulls over that option but he looks nervous, his knee bouncing up and down then that you can’t help but notice
“or are you gonna wait for your friend?
did you just give him an even bigger dilemma
jungkook swallows the lump in his throat, a nervous giggle coming out from him even before he could restrain it
“i-i can’t find him anyway. but that’s okay, right? jimin always comes home one way or another.”
OH SO IT’S JIMIN
you’re gonna pulverize him when you drop by yoongi’s chess club again ://
“then go home.”
your affirmation makes jungkook nod resolutely, making his mind up
he stands up rather unsurely, sheepishly nodding to you before he takes two steps away from you
FUCK IT
jungkook turns to you almost nervously, eyes wavering that you only then realize that he isn’t wearing his glasses, seeing his bambi eyes a bit more clearly
“i-i’m very sorry to ask, and if it’s not too much trouble, a-and you don’t have to if you don’t want to but uhm — can you uh, can you walk me home?”
oh
oh
you’re pleasantly surprised from what jungkook’s asking of you, head tilting that he misinterprets and tries to backtrack
“i-it’s just that i feel safer with you. b-but i completely understand if-“
huh
that’s nice
you stand up abruptly, leaving your drink by the table because it might seem a little funky to walk down a street with a blatantly red cup lol
“okay.”
he hears you reply simply, seeing you walk ahead of him with your hands in your pockets
:((
jungkook is so grateful for you
you only share some classes here and there, and he’s only properly interacted with you once, and he doesn’t even have your number — but here you are, walking him home from a party he can’t stand to be in and is too anxious to walk away from alone
at some point, jungkook placed himself beside you so he could tell you where his apartment’s at,,
and also for the reason that he feels safer beside you and not behind you
you’re a warm presence if that makes sense
you’re team captain of your soccer team and you’re yoongi’s right-hand woman (and he’s your right-hand man slash nemesis) and he feels like everyone could count on you if they needed to
you’re not exactly outgoing nor warm nor approachable,,,, but jungkook doesn’t exactly mind
jungkook doesn’t mind because his senior is walking him home and he’s never felt more comforted before.
he starts tearing up at the edges of his eyes and it’s with a faint sniffle that you only turn your eyes at him, narrowing at the sight
you don’t even ask but he explains anyway, pointing in front of him
“nothing. just the wind. a-and i’m wearing contacts!”
you only nod curtly, continuing on walking when jungkook sees you pull out a goddamn bottle of eyedrops from your pocket, offering it to him like it’s no big deal
:(((((
his eyes ARE scratchy
“how did you-“
“i carry it around. yoongi and i have dry eyes.”
you don’t exactly stop when he drops them to his eyes, but you do slow down in the slightest
jungkook finds himself in front of his apartment complex soon enough, almost disappointed that the walk home was quick
you turn without even waiting for a thanks from him, completely surprised when he yells out for you and tries to jog in an attempt to your retreating figure
“t-thank you so much, y/n! it means a lot and i-i probably would be still in that party crying or whatever until i could find jimin. i’m so sorry still and i hope i can make it up to you and-...”
“good night.”
you only flash a small smile, similar to yoongi’s :] before leaving jungkook in front of his complex
he’s still a little perplexed but he doesn’t question it
jungkook’s still holding your bottle of eyedrops in his hand, the only thing reminding him that his senior did walk him home
he’s gonna return this to you
he will
:)
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miraculouscontent · 3 years ago
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Hello I’m to rant about gale heads up some of this is going to be kind of misspelled because I’m dumb, also I’m gonna say the fuck kind of a lot so sorry.
First of all dude you can just block fucking tags and you don’t have to be passive aggressive to someone you don’t like just block them. The best way to experience fandom is to curate your experience to what you like for example me following you because I like your content.I think gale should just block the lukenette tag if the idea of Marinette being with Luke bother him so much block the tag. You would enjoy the hell scape known as the miraculous ladybug fandom if you block that one tag everyone who likes that ship
Two, I don’t like how he uses some thing you made as a sign of bad fanfic and can’t even bother to get your name right. Let’s start with using the ladybugoutAU as a sign of too much salt, it’s kind of insulting because people who read it can see how much a foot you put in to the snippets of the full fanfiction(it got me following you actually) despite it being a salt fic it’s well written and none of the characters feel out of character. Because newsflash gale Adrian it’s kind of an entitled brat and Clarity, you got how he acts accurate enough to the show. Now let’s talk about how  he got your name wrong, last I checked your name is not candy it’s Clarity it feels kind like a dick move to call someone a slightly different name to the actual name. Sure I may have missed read your name as chansey (like The Pokémon some reason) for the longest time but it’s still in the same ballpark it’s not candy
Gale has a stick up his ass because he ships the LS and he doesn’t have any major criticism from the show. Can some salt and criticism people have a be a little bad faith media yeah sure. However I don’t know how to break this to you him but Adrian is such a boring character that flower is more spicy than him, there’s not even a lot of chemistry with Adrian and Marinette in the show. Because the only chemistry they have is the hold a meant for each other which is bullshit. Gale it’s not better than anyone for shipping A basic bitch ship with a basic ass character who has nothing going on for him except for being entitled Twatt. 
My closing statement of this is gale should really get off his high horse and other block you/Lukeinette tag. Or he can keep being a hypocrite, i’m tired and I want him to shut up. And since I’m here again I would like to tell you that I love your content and you’re the only reason why I’m still in the fandom. I keep writing the lovely tube blueberries together because they deserve happiness✨
Stay awesome and I’m going to sleep for a whole day, i’m sorry if there’s a so chaotic it’s late where I am. 
Thank you so much! I’m glad people feel such a need to defend me~
And yeah, I don’t understand why people purposefully go into tags either to salt or to seek out content they don’t like. Apparently we’re toxic people for watching the show despite being so salty over it yet what they do is fine? (Also, anyone who follows my Lukanette blog knows that I had to make a whole new Lukanette tag for everyone because the original one was poison.)
I did used to be called “Candy,” but I had changed it a good while before Gale had made that post. My name is right on my blog, it’s not hard.
I appreciate the comments on LadyBugOut! I feel like using any fic as some sort of “measurement” is silly. There are bad ideas and good ideas, but most things are up to opinion and to automatically list an idea as “bad” supposedly without actually doing research?  (Some people might remember the controversy when Gale refused to acknowledge his Villain Luka AU as Luka salt). Again, I don’t care what love square stans think of my AU (I just use it as a measurement for how well I did lol) but the fact of them being exposed to my AU at all when it’s tagged is just... veeeery suspicious.
I just wished they’d own up and either name drop me/the AU directly or not bring it up at all; not this wishy-washy middle ground where they’re salty but don’t want to be obvious about it.
There was also that one weird comment about “salt against salt cancelling it out” that I’ll never understand, but I won’t pretend to get someone who rants against salt and then actively seeks it out.
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nightswithkookmin · 4 years ago
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MONDAY, JANUARY 18TH: GOLDY'S LOG
I miss Suga. Scratch that. I miss Agust D. My spirit animal.
I've been thinking about him a lot lately, wondering if his injury isn't an exemption to military service. I wonder if he qualifies, in light of his injury, as an able body. I wonder what their law defines as able body.
I wonder if he passed the legal physical exam and health assessment test when he turned 19, since he's had that injury way before debut. Or if BTS have undergone that mandatory military service assessment since they are all past 19 and what their results are.
Jimin has chronic back pain too. That should qualify him for an exemption to military duty. He can still do desk work if it's that serious.
I should talk to ***** and look into South Korea's law on exemptions to military service.
Moon values the arts and culture industry. There's already been an extension for conscription for the benefit of BTS. Their success and longevity in the spot light perhaps influenced this decision. Should BTS maintain this momentum, an exemption would be inevitable I feel.
I miss them. They've been gone for too long. I'm worried about the impact this is going to have on their popularity if they disconnect from fans for so long or be mechanical about the way they connect with their fans.
I hate the limited access to them. But Scarcity increases the value of a product and it's not surprising if this is the approach BigHit is adopting in the wake of the pandemic.
Limited access not only raises value, it creates demand. Bang PD is a bigbrain marketing genius- I hate it.
They are taking a huge risk with this new marketing strategy. Personally, I'd stick to what works but then I am no marketing guru. Just a consumer who likes to play it safe. I guess I won't be getting hired anytime soon. Fuck.
It's all very fascinating.
What's equally fascinating is the shippers out here on these streets. The Jokers.
I... they confuse the hell out of me sometimes.
How are they going to question my rationality when I talk about moments I feel Jikook are having issues in their relationship or had broken up etc but then have no problem with and even applaud that same rationality when I talk about moments that has led me to believe there is lack of depth in Tae Kook's dynamics or that they are not real by any standard or that another ship in BTS isn't real.
Do I have two minds? Or are they more inclined to be selective in their beliefs based on their biases towards Jikook and against other ships? It's weird.
By the same lens I define Jikook as real, I define Tae Kook or any other ship that includes JK and Jimin as not real. And by that same lens if I feel Jikook aren't together then I'm wrong and irrational?
It really confounds me.
Not sure if they expect me to apply double standards to Jikook in those instances.
I don't think there is right and wrong opinions or perspective when it comes to shipping, but I think if they are right about me being wrong about my perspective on Jikook then I must be wrong about my perspective on any other ship in BTS as well.
I can't be right about one and wrong about another. I'm either right about all or wrong about all.
I can't be 'right' about Tae Kook having 'issues' in their bond in such a way I think it often bars them from fully nurturing their bond and developing depth to it but then be 'wrong' about Jikook also having issues that mess with their bond from time to time when it's the same measurement I use in accessing the depth of bond of both ships.
I really don't understand their way of thinking.
What is right and what is wrong and who decides on that?
I think we ought to substitute right and wrong with 'believe and believable.' The approach to such discourse should be about what one is willing to believe or not believe about certain discussions: I believe this. I don't believe that. Because believes stem from our personal biases towards a subject.
And the people that come running to me with 'look, Jikook smiled at each other in On era so change your mind'
I would except I hear this debate all the time. I wonder if they realize they sound exactly like the Tuktukkers in my DMs trying to convince me Tae Kook is real.
'Look Tae sat on JK's laps! How can you say there is no depth to Tae kook' ' He squished JK's cheeks' 'Jk said he wants to ride with Tae, if there was no depth why did he say he wanted to ride with him'
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I have a feeling Soft Koo is back. The days of Terminator JK might be over. Too bad, I liked terminator JK. He was a bad ass.
I like that he is experimenting with his looks. But I'm glad his Ravi-esque phase is over. I wonder who he is drawing inspiration from this time. He reminds me of Jimin though. There is something peaceful and serene about his looks.
Can't really tell much because Bighit is sitting on tons of footages. I think I need to send a truck to Bang PD HQ.
I don't like that Jimin posted a Vhopemin photo for Tae's birthday. It was cute and all but I don't like it. That shit felt passive aggressive as fuxk. Lmho. What, he didn't have a V or Vmin photo in his gallery? Sounds like someone didn't put much effort in their VMin agenda for this post.
I wonder if he will keep the same energy come JK's birthday. I mean both him and Tae didn't post for him💀
May be I'm reaching on this one. But a single post where V was not even the focus of the post... I think his birthday means a lot to him and he enjoys when people shower him with love and attention and I don't think his birthday is an exception.
And he kept reiterating after such said birthday how he recently discovered he loves to be loved and how he does most of the things he does in order to be loved by his fans, friends and family.
And it breaks my heart that, the headlines read BTS shower X, Y with love on his birthday but the two people close to him were missing from that list this time. The media talks about BTS posting for eachother as them showering eachother with love. Certainly they all know this.
And the fact Jin posted for Tae after Tae's birthday says a lot about Tae and JK. Tae had no intention of posting perhaps because he left JM a message on the packages. With Jin I feel he was overcompensating for not posting for him on his birthday...
JK gets a pass. If JM wasn't happy about him not posting for his birthday, he would have pulled a Jin.
Jimin talking about coming to the realization he loves to be loved makes me think JK withholding his affections openly made him come to the realization he loves to be loved. Just a hunch. And the only reason JK would withhold his affections is if Jimin himself estopps him. Those two give me headaches.
I think I got the closure I needed from this.
LESSON: dont get on JM's bad side and bloody post for his birthday 💀
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Tae been releasing photos of Jimin and Jhope a lot lately. Not sure how that makes me feel either. I think it's beautiful. But when I think about all these beautiful photos he has of Jimin on his phone and how generous he is with them- I think they would have been more meaningful had he released it on JM's birthday. The snow photo he posted still sits in my Vmin heart somewhere.
I really don't like this not posting for each other's birthday business. It's 2021. They need to cut it out.
I feel JK set a bad precedent but personal happiness first so good for him.
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This moment haunts me for some reason.
What was going through V's head. I want to know. RM looks done. Lol.
Jimin is really beautiful. I love his eyes when he smiles and the thing he does with his shoulders.
Some people complain I write a lot. Some say I don't write enough. Ayayayai!!!!!!
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What to do.
I think I accidentally deleted a post.
I'm looking forward to JKK1. Stay Gold, Still with you, Your eyes tell... I hope he hasn't given his best away cos those were bops.
PJM1... oh God I'm nervous. I'm excited for it but nervous. I think Serendipity is a classic. The Christmas song was equally great and frankly the only good Christmas Ive heard so far and I don't even like Christmas- nothing against Baby Jesus I just think it sucks. That bridge in Dis-ease is something.
I want to read his thoughts. His spotify playlist is insightful but I want to confirm if he really sees himself as a mess who is always causing his lover grief.
I mean he did say he has realized he needs to be considerate towards those that love him. Not sure yet the connection there.
I want to read his thoughts.
PJM1....
I love JHOPE. I think his ship with Jimin is beautiful and healing. They make my insides warm. Not sure if their shippers think they are real. Do they? That would be awkward.
I think RM and Jimin need to spend time together... it would be good for them.
Jimin and Sungwoon shippers are alleging Jimin has been staying with Sungwoon all this while. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
But the bit about him living with Sungwoon before the start of Bon V 4 has me🤔
Around that period, I don't believe JM was at the dorms and Jikook were not together then too. He must have been staying somewhere...
I'll let them have that.
But around November 2019 when he was having issues with JK he was staying with Tae too so no I don't think that means Sungwoon is queer or that Jimin is sleeping with him💀
They need to get out of their imaginations.
I think Jikook will drive me crazy one day.
I can feel my cranium swelling.
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JiRose shippers need to pack it up. They really think Jimin is straight? 💀
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It's the bad editing for me.
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That doesn't look like a straight face to me. Unless his butt was on fire and he was uncomfortable looking at that black interviewer, I think that's his flirting face.
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Lately I've been thinking about what ifs.
What if Jikook is not real?
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I wish I believed that.
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retvenkos · 3 years ago
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anyways i guess i'm a portwell stan now (enemies to lovers/best friends brother/make each other better trope & troy and gabriella parallels my beloved)
and i'm also exasperated at the writers at ricky's path this season. and the writers in general.
i just. want miss jenn and mr mazzara to get together this season and ej and gina to be happy, if that's too much to ask for.
AND WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE SO MANY LOVE TRIANGLES????
nobody wants it, they're not needed- all this season has been about romance, with a few crumbs of musical theatre, and it's not what i signed up for! i want more friendship moments between kourtney and seb, and i want more of the dorky improv games.
let the kids be kids.
the north high rivalry is getting unrealistically annoying. if anything, the theatre community is supportive of each other (i'm in a performing arts school, i should know lmbo)
ricky's parents' divorce plot was completely thrown out the window.
nobody wanted the redlyn angst.
why is carlos being kinda mean?
this whole has season has been a mess, and the only people carrying the show on their backs now is ej, gina, mr. mazzara and howie's rendition of "if i can't love her".
i'm so sorry for vomiting this all over you, i just felt this show is going downhill- kinda like glee.
dfghjdsfghjhgfdsdfghjhgfd,,, i haven't watched glee but i know enough about it to know that was a sick burn, cass. i love it.
and omg,,,,, do i have thoughts™. let's unpack them, shall we?
i agree that this season has been..... a lot™. it’s just a cluster of half-baked plot points that are strung together really losely. i feel like they should have scaled back on some of their ambitions.
namely, the north high rivalry is really bland and unnecessary. the only good things to come out of it is howie, the song around you, and the stunning location (i mean, art deco ogden high? count me in). you could take out the menkies entirely and so little would change to the overall story. i’d argue the story could have been even better without it because.... big shock..... we could focus on the characters.
because, truly, they’re trying to tackle too many things at once. whatever angst is happening with carlos and seb is the worst developed plot point we’ve had to suffer through. carlos says “does chip have any big scenes?” and it’s the catalyst for a fight? then we have them split for spring break and it’s just snippets of them fighting? literally, there’s zero reason for seb and carlos to fight - their dynamic is cute but it’s background chatter when you have whatever the hell is happening with ricky, nini, ej, and gina front and center. there was no reason to make then fight and it doesn’t add to their development, it isn’t well executed, and it isn’t particularly interesting. just let them be happy?
and i feel like that’s such a running theme for all of the side relationships? like you said - redlyn didn’t really need angst? i feel like the whole “career day” arc was well done and was compelling (but maybe that’s just because i had a friend who went through the same thing as red, so i’m sympathetic to it), but whatever went on with antoine and ashlyn was just.... really unnecessary? it didn’t add anything? maybe they’ll be revisiting the plot point, but as it stands right now, it was just really random to add in, and perhaps if i were more invested with north high, i would appreciate it more. but they’re.... so inconsequential.
and now we get to talk about one of my biggest gripes,,,,,,, ricky’s parents’ divorce. listen, i thought it was well developed in season one. it had importance. it affected ricky. it affected the plot. it raised the stakes. now it’s just underdeveloped. we’ve barely seen ricky’s homelife, given the sheer amount of plot points the show is juggling, and since ricky has mainly had negative scenes through the totality of the season, viewers aren’t really interested in seeing how the crumbs of his tumultuous homelife are affecting his behavior (which is kind of important, seeing as it accounts for the degradation of his character). 
ricky is going through a lot this season, and i feel like the main reason why people are so upset with him is because the writers leaned into his sad boi™ status. maybe it’s because the screentime is so divided and the stakes are higher, or because the writers really just got rid of all of ricky’s personality, but ricky has had two personality traits this season - sad clingy boi and bitter, passive aggressive boi. 
now, these personality appeared in season one - quite a lot, actually - but because it was framed  between light hearted moments and exploration of his conflicts, it was palatable and understandable. viewers understood why ricky was so desperately clinging onto the past and resisted change so much. we saw the tempest he was in! we had moments where friends like big red or even gina mentioned it. his reactions had merit because the viewer saw the buildup! 
this season, we have not had that. we see ricky’s dad trying to do his best with moving out, and with trying to move on, and we see ricky’s mom trying to do the same, and this is all strong for them, but when ricky can’t move on, and we see less of the struggle that ricky feels, we become disenchanted. ricky has stagnated, and we see everyone else moving on, and we do not focus on hat influences ricky to stop dead in his tracks. 
what’s worse is that the writers have ricky blow up so much more than last season, when we see less reasoning, and when he mentions how his parent’s divorce is a main reason for his angst, we really have no basis for that - except for what we saw in season 1. season 1 isn’t enough anymore, though, because ricky’s dad has moved on! so has ricky’s mom! 
i’m just scREAMING because ricky’s story is important and it was done well in season 1 and now the writers are losing ricky in the crossfire and pulling out the most degraded, negative traits of his character and running with them.
where is the ricky bowen i love and miss????
and lol, i’ve spoken so much about north high already, but i agree 10000% that it’s just getting out of hand. it’s just so not realistic. the rivalries aren’t like this,,,, someone please make it stop. they north high kids are also just so underdeveloped? the only exception is howie, and we didn’t even know he was a north high kid for half of the show,,,,,, (which, imo, should have been built up much better. kourtney said they never hung out with his friends, but we should have seen that so the mystery was more fulfilling. we should have also gotten hints he was in theatre - maybe kourtney hears him sing beauty and the beast, and she thinks it’s vvv cute, and she asks him he didn’t try out, and howie has to do some mental gymnastics to come up with a decent lie.) 
there’s so much poor or just underdeveloped writing in this season,,,, i’m crying.
even gina (my beloved) is the subject of poor writing because literally what happened between her and ricky? she was so emotionally involved she was about to leave, and then she suddenly decides to stay? and she suddenly just ignores ricky? girl worked through all of that off camera and while it’s not bad per se, it’s just lazy. they just underdeveloped that entire story.
the only one who has really shined this season is ej, and that’s just... really out of left field, but i’m not complaining.
and, i mean, i could talk about my earlier gripes with nini, but i see that they’re making narrative sense, now that the show has progressed a little further. i just wish she had stayed at yac longer, or we had seen more of her, there, so that when she says “she liked who she was [at yac],” we would have more basis for that. and i kinda wish we saw more of her sans boy drama, but i’m sure that’s coming.
and the love triangles,,,,, don’t get me started. rina didn’t have to be angsty or happen at all,,,, they could have just been friends and it would have had the same effect. don’t believe me? they’re friends and they lean on each other, but then nini comes into the picture and ricky just wants to be with nini all the time. he starts to really blow gina off and gina wonders if they were ever friends at all, or if she was just a cardboard cut out that ricky projected nini onto. the angst happens, gina realizes she has friends with carlos, she has that moment with ashlyn that gets fixed, then gina gets close to ej,,,,, literally no difference.
and lol, mr. mazzara. i think he and miss jenn are vvv cute together - definitely my favorite out of the miss jenn romances. i love a good slow burn, so i’m willing to wait for an eternity to have it. i just think they’re neat.
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Amber & Cosmo
Amber: [Okay so I’m just gonna write my diabolical idea here so we know how it’s kicking off, basically whenever Dash and Amber hooked up- which was long ago enough that he should but hasn’t given her the stash back but literally never long enough ago that it won’t be gross to Cosmo that this happened, soz boy- she thought they were doing so in Dash’s bedroom but it’s actually his brother’s so when she comes back looking for her stash/anything she can replace it with, she’s actually ransacking Cosmo’s room and we know it’s blatantly because he lied that he didn’t have any drugs when he in fact did so he’s an all around lovely boy]
Amber: [picture the scene of him walking into his own room like wtf and then she has to hurriedly explain all of the above and then I figure I can start this convo when she’s for real in Dash’s room searching the right one lol]
Amber: I’m so so so sorry
Amber: I can’t find the words…
Cosmo: [The levels we would’ve been like GET OUT without terrifying her into fully leaving, in our room fuming rn]
Cosmo: Did you take any of my shit?
Amber: I’m not here for anything that isn’t mine, I told you
Cosmo: You said a lot
Cosmo: and fast
Cosmo: You’ll excuse me if I was more distracted by the more pressing issues like the stranger in my fucking room
Amber: Because you were saying the same thing again and again
Amber: and loud
Amber: my pressing issue was, and is, me not getting arrested
Cosmo: That’s your life choices
Cosmo: maybe don’t break and enter if you don’t wanna be worrying about that, there you go, pro-tip
Amber: Passive aggression towards me is understandable but please don’t threaten a real act of, you know I’m no burglar
Cosmo: I don’t know that, I don’t know who the hell you are
Amber: If you need to empty out my pockets to be sure, I’ve not left
Amber: yet
Cosmo: I can’t see anything missing
Amber: I feel stupid for not realising it couldn’t be his room
Amber: stupider
Cosmo: It’s an unpleasant way to find out he’s a piece of shit for you but you’ll be better off for knowing
Amber: Typically unfair of the universe not to let me have the information before we had sex
Cosmo: I might be more willing to extend sympathy if it weren’t in my fucking bed
Amber: Take mine because it was
Amber: but believe me that I didn’t know
Cosmo: Doesn’t change the fact
Cosmo: He’s fucking dead
Amber: I can’t change it now, but I’ll bring you some new sheets to show you the sorry was meant
Amber: and knock before I come through your window
Cosmo: Or you could just not, on both counts
Amber: if you want
Cosmo: Funny when someone breaks in you don’t really get much say
Amber: It’s your choice from here on though, I was being pushy when I thought it was your lying brother’s window
Cosmo: Generous
Cosmo: What are you even looking for?
Amber: 🌿 I borrowed my dad’s stash
Amber: borrowed is the important part
Cosmo: How does that work
Cosmo: except for not, clearly
Cosmo: You may as well go, ‘cos that will be long gone
Amber: Empty handed!? I can’t do that
Cosmo: Help yourself to any crap he’s got in there
Cosmo: doesn’t bother me
Amber: I don’t think there’s anything in here my father would accept as a 🕊
Cosmo: No shit
Cosmo: Unless he’s also got the taste of a wannabe hippie
Amber: Their wardrobes are unsurprisingly similar but he’d kill me if I brought home new items to replace the handful of old clothes he already owns
Cosmo: You’re one of them
Cosmo: Figures, only people who’ll associate with him at this point
Amber: Them?
Cosmo: You live in the compound
Amber: oh right 👽
Amber: yes, I’ve lived there for a few months
Cosmo: My sympathies on that one
Amber: 😂 Thanks, but even going back empty handed wouldn’t result in a RIP 🥤 ending, it’s okay
Cosmo: There’s hardly a shortage where that came from
Amber: or of worse places I could or have lived
Amber: Have you always lived here?
Cosmo: I’d phone social for you but the case is well-established already, I reckon
Cosmo: Dublin? Always
Cosmo: Better postcode for a bit but now just on the weekends
Amber: better because…?
Cosmo: All the reasons they put on the listings
Cosmo: price, location, near to whatever amenities you might want, idk, you know what better means
Amber: You forgot no strange girls climbing in your bedroom window, it was the perfect opportunity to stay angry at me
Amber: but this is better, agreed 🙃
Cosmo: I’m still angry, don’t worry
Cosmo: you’d not get anywhere near my dad’s windows
Amber: so you get the weekends off from me
Cosmo: I’m definitely not doing his dirty work for him, he doesn’t deserve that but neither do you so
Cosmo: If stealing your stash and not letting you in his room wasn’t hint enough, he’s not gonna make you his girlfriend, okay
Amber: I’m not THAT stupid, I don’t know what you got from first glance or this on going impression but it sounds like I don’t want to know
Cosmo: You aren’t going to be here every weekday then, that’s what I mean
Amber: I could be, I found a lot of spare rooms on the way to his, they’re not as nice as yours but they don’t have horrific memories attached
Amber: yet
Cosmo: We’re not looking for lodgers and you just moved
Amber: over half a year ago isn’t a just
Amber: Why don’t you want to live with me?
Cosmo: 😂
Cosmo: You’ve got jokes, at least, if not your stash
Amber: if you had manners you’d help me
Cosmo: You and my brother desecrated my bed
Cosmo: Why’d I owe you anything, like
Amber: You’re 🤬 at him, he’s owed us both getting our own back and I can’t do a good enough job at it on my own
Cosmo: You’ve got a point, alright
Cosmo: [Come in]
Amber: [picture her buried in this carnage because she’s so smol and his room was such a mess before she even got there, just looking at him as she’s trying unsuccessfully to like throw this mattress out of the window like hello]
Cosmo: [just walking over and taking that off her with ease because you’re tall, lean it against the wall like not gonna happen babe, because as much as we’d like to throw your mattress in the stinky pond, we don’t want to cause hassle for Ali or Billie because we’re a good boy unlike someone, rifle through the mess of clothes and put aside any that might be worth something, indicate as much by doing the money thing with your hands like kaching]
Amber: [at least she’ll be too busy being shamelessly impressed by how tall and strong you are to pout about it, so you’re welcome but also lowkey not because like I said shameless haha]
Cosmo: [at least you can maintain eye contact and look at her right back as you’re like ‘what?’ ‘cos you don’t not know what you look like lol]
Amber: [sitting down on a skateboard that’s on the floor because the bed would be off limits even if the mattress wasn’t on the lean ‘what are we doing?’ like we need do more than raid his clothes if we wanna really annoy him but also the saucy undertone is obvious especially because eye contact hasn’t been broken remotely]
Cosmo: [shrugs ‘he doesn’t care about anything’ but not as offhand as that sounds because we are constantly and entirely at a loss with him ‘take what will make it worth it for you’ break that eye contact to look around like hmm]
Amber: [rolls the skateboard at him but obvs in a playful not aggressive manner cos we’re getting up as if to leave like ‘it was nice to meet you’ because not at all unspoken vibe of that makes it worth it for me]
Cosmo: [pick it up as we raise a brow half like was it and half yeah it was ‘cos duh ‘these are pricey-’ gesture to all the skateboards lying about with the one you’re now holding ‘and easier to get out the window’]
Amber: [sitting on said window ledge rn because even if it’s a tiny one so is she and we were gonna climb out before he made that suggestion DUH ‘maybe but what’ll I do with them’ looks down at self and her aesthetic because we’re nothing if not self aware baby ‘other than string one of the wheels onto a necklace’]
Cosmo: [a small lol but in a yeah that’s true look at you way without being THE RUDEST ‘put ‘em in a sock and you’ve got a weapon’ does the thing where you pick something up with your toes on some laundry ‘I’d supply your own sock though’ like ew]
Amber: [a lol of her own at his monkey footed antics and opening the window like that sock is THE GROSSIEST and it stinks in here which lbr isn't that much of an exaggeration 'the creativity doesn't sweeten the deal enough that part of it would be allowing me to use violence for conflict resolution, sadly' a pout 'but admitting you want me to stay here instead of trying to get me kicked out of there remains an option, thankfully' a grin like 😁]
Cosmo: [at least you can throw some of his clothes out the window without affecting your mother and grandmother so doing that without touching anything truly DISGUSTANG but giving her a look as if that suggestion is, but with a 😏 ‘cos don’t need to go that hard with the rudeness rn ‘we’d charge more rent’]
Amber: [looks around at the stuff he has already said is worth money before hopping down from the window to pick up a guitar Dash has obvs left lying around 'how much?']
Cosmo: [shrugs because not our bag ‘aren’t all instruments kinda expensive?’ ‘cos true unless it’s like a play guitar lmao]
Amber: ['instruments in this condition are, sure' because we're blatantly holding a flashy electric guitar rn not a beat up acoustic like she's used to seeing all the hippies play 'but it can't have any sentimental value' like there's no point taking it if he's not even gonna notice]
Cosmo: [‘good luck with that’ like he don’t care about anything ‘cos that’s how it seems hen]
Amber: [such a face on because even though he's proved they weren't friends and he's a dick she at least thought his hippie vibe wasn't total bollocks but all this expensive shit hard-core goes against that so with a sigh and a shrug she's going back to the window like well I might as well leave then 'thanks anyway, and sorry, again']
Cosmo: [a noise like that’s simplifying things a bit, a psh if you will, ‘guess he fucked you over first’ but a sincere face to show we know he did ‘just don’t do this again’ gestures vaguely like what bit do you mean sir]
Amber: ['it's my dad's stash, not mine' as if that's the only thing Dash did wrong because we're not gonna get into the fact you've known him for months you thought and likewise thought you were friends as everyone just thinks you're a slutty hippie stereotype so you have no reason to believe it's not the same assumption here 'I'll find a different way to replace it']
Cosmo: [reach in your pocket like how much even though you are a bit 😒 because essentially paying for your dickhead brother’s habit rn]
Amber: ['no!' such a fierce shake of her head and such a fiercely angry face because it's not his debt or problem even if it was actually about the money/ drugs instead of the lies and Dash's shitty behaviour which turns into a sad face/head in hands moment when she says 'I was beginning to think I couldn't feel any worse about how I've treated you' and just really quietly basically under her breath adding 'stupid' because @ herself for everything including thinking this was a good idea and still being here]
Cosmo: [‘hey’ and moving forward but then moving back awkwardly just as fast ‘cos we don’t really know what to think about you rn, as is this weird situation you find yourselves in ‘forget about it, I’m fine’ add ‘and the bit that ain’t fine is on him so don’t feel bad, honestly’]
Amber: [at least you can't see that awkward move back and feel worse for that gal because even though he's right and it's not really your fault you feel bad 'it's my fault he used your room, plenty of other girls from the commune wouldn't and haven't insisted on going anywhere else, and mine too that I'm at your house again today...I should've let it go' because we're never gonna be the peace and love cliche soz parents but we know that's what you want]
Cosmo: [‘he’s owed worse’ like I get why you didn’t let it go, even if your method is dubious babe]
Amber: [a smile that’s genuine relief because who else gets it in your life remotely but then you remember that so you’re like ‘retribution delivered karmically not by me’ but we still haven’t left and we obviously don’t mean it and aren’t trying to pretend we do with our tone because we’re not at the commune now bitches fight us]
Cosmo: [‘good luck with that’ ‘cos same energy of that’s bullshit]
Amber: [a little lol because he literally typed exactly that earlier like okay boy I get it ‘I’m owed worse’ than bad luck or being called out on bullshit that isn’t even hers but he thinks is, both definitely]
Cosmo: [‘undoubtedly’ and a shrug like soz, life’s shit]
Amber: ['where did you get it?' Meaning the money he just tried to give her obvs because she's thinking she might have to get a job to pay her dad back and even though she's clearly worked out from what he said about a better postcode at the weekend and how much stuff Dash has and how he treats it that it's likely from his dad but we hate when people make assumptions about us so we're not trying to do that]
Cosmo: [‘I go to a football academy’ not in the braggy way that sounds just stating the fact, she’s probably not aware that means you get paid boy but go off ‘if you need the cash, you should just take it’ like seriously gal, looking at her like]
Amber: ['What's that like?' SO surprised and intrigued in all the ways not like you could NEVER boy but she's obviously never met anyone else who does anything like that and even more importantly just really driving the point home that we don't know a thing about you and how wild it is we are here having this convo not to mention you're literally offering us money again which we are gonna shake our head to again as we make yet more eye contact 'when I need the money, I'll figure it out for myself' not angry tone this time just stating a fact]
Cosmo: [When you don’t really know how to answer that ‘cos the assumption always is that it’s a dream come true obvs because it is a big opportunity but it’s still a job at the end of the day, one you start much younger than most kids even get a part-time so we’re kinda like what do you mean lmao ‘yeah, it’s great, better than wasting my time at normal school, like’ asking a question back ‘cos not rude ‘you go to school?’ ‘cos undoubtedly aware loads of the commune lot don’t]
Amber: [‘I'm picturing the hunger games with a football' cos we are and that's what we mean lol because normal school is savage enough never mind something so focused on talent and competitiveness like 'are you a scorer?' Bringing back her adorably not knowing football terms and it's like it makes sense you would thrive there if you are and that type haha, nodding our answer to his question 'my dad teaches the kids who don't go' as if that's the only reason we go to school]
Cosmo: [little lol ‘maybe when you’re younger’ ‘cos obviously not all of you make it ‘but we all have pro contracts now, the deadweight is gone’ pop off with the basic explanation of your position on the team for her, we know the vibe hun, nods back ‘better than nothing, I guess’ but we clearly don’t really think so ‘you’re in his year?’ part sympathy part disgust lmao]
Amber: [obviously gonna ask him who his contract is with and if she can see him play but I won't commit you to picking a real team if you don't want to it's just to show that she's genuinely interested because likewise asking him other relevant questions when he's explaining the position he plays etc 'I don't mind school, being in the year above him definitely helps’ because my vibe is she would like school for lots of reasons but she's also Lowkey struggling a lot with it hence she doesn't really have time for a job rn very past me energy of having to do schoolwork until you literally go to bed]
Cosmo: [‘I don’t think it’ll be your scene’ and such a look of confusion that she asked like what do you want, suspish lol, smile though ‘that’s something’ ‘cos no one should have to suffer Dash in our opinion lmao]
Amber: ['Why not?' Such a genuine question but we aren't mad yet because we've clearly never been to a football match before so he might have a valid reason for thinking that and gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and obviously gonna throw something vaguely school related out of the window but nothing that would inconvenience your poor mother or nan though like yeah it's gonna be very important to me that we don't have to cross paths at school as well cos livid lol]
Cosmo: [‘Come on, you don’t think it’s all meat pies and
misogynists, like?’ with a 😏 energy ‘people like you are more likely to run onto the pitch with a sign than sit in the stands’ shakes head ‘sure he skives loads anyway, as the rest of this house actually has places to be and can’t keep a constant eye on him like the kid he is’ like you’ll barely have to see him, don’t worry, probs true]
Amber: [a lol ' are you saying it is or just that you don't want someone like me waving a sign with your name on from the stands?' Ignoring the Dash stuff entirely because now we know what a knob he is we are so over him]
Cosmo: [who can possibly say energy because that’s amused us lowkey]
Amber: ['I wanna see you play' because we do]
Cosmo: [‘why?’ because the levels we’re like WHAT DO YOU WANT cannot be overstated lmao]
Amber: [' Because I think it sounds fun, why don't you want me to?']
Cosmo: [‘if you want to go to a football match, you can’ like you don’t need to come to mine, which sounds ruder than we mean it, just pointing this out]
Amber: [the poutiest because rude and also we aren't stupid we're aware of that thank you boy 'and hold up a sign saying what, for who?' Because duh the fun is cheering you on sir]
Cosmo: [‘We don’t do cheerleaders’ but looking at her slightly less suspish and more curious]
Amber: ['okay, I won't wear the outfit, your loss' accidentally very saucy mental image soz not soz]
Cosmo: [we’re getting such slag vibes ‘cos of how this has all gone down so we’re like steady on gal ‘cos we’re not trying to put out that we’ll get on you ‘cos we know you’ve got previous, not that kinda boy, very #awks on your behalf ‘funny’]
Amber: [Ngl love that because she’s really not but he’s gonna keep thinking this for ages if she hooks up with a random at the clerb again this time and when she dates this old ass dude despite the fact it’s the first time she’s done either haha ‘Pom poms are usually plastic’ spoken like plastic is a swear word lol ‘and tissue paper isn’t recyclable either, environmentally responsible arts and crafts are the limit’]
Cosmo: [rolls eyes but not in the sarky energy of the emoji ‘what the fuck would you wave, some broccoli?’]
Amber: ['I can cut the cardboard into any shape’ so amused genuinely ‘so yes, if you like’]
Cosmo: [‘sure I wouldn’t wanna hinder your creativity, express yourself’ in a faux hippie energy]
Amber: ['I wouldn’t want everyone to think I was there protesting the pies and misogyny’🤔 ‘What number are you?’]
Cosmo: [‘hopefully I don’t mess up or you’ll have to add the racism to the list’ but tell her your number obvs]
Amber: [do a tick on the palm on her hand with her finger like noted ‘Does that mean I’m invited?’]
Cosmo: [‘it’s not an invite event’ shrugs ‘cos we still do not get this lmao ‘can’t stop you’]
Amber: [‘Unfriendly’ because I’m bringing that pun back thank you]
Cosmo: [my boo says I can and I will, ‘so weird’ kinda under our breath but not in a snide way so she could hear]
Amber: [‘it being weird to be interested in getting to know you says more about you than me’ like 😏 energy of what you’re so unlikeable are you as if the weirdness doesn’t come from the fact you hooked up with his brother and then broke into his house but okay babe]
Cosmo: [‘we’re not going to be friends’ like that’s a fact, bit rude but also I understand]
Amber: [‘We could be’ again so genuine as if there’s not reasons why you wouldn’t]
Cosmo: [‘no’ very simply even if we’re a bit #conflicted ‘cos don’t want to be a dick to you]
Amber: [‘okay’ because you literally can’t and wouldn’t argue with that so just actually go to leave for real this time gal]
Cosmo: [gonna have to let her go for now but let some time pass but like 15 mins ish not like a long time, enough that she’s gone though]
Cosmo: I didn’t mean to offend you
Amber: You didn’t, it would have offended me if you’d said no after your first 👀
Cosmo: Good
Cosmo: because it’s not about you
Cosmo: it isn’t a problem with you personally, I mean
Amber: it’s about your brother, I know, I’m not a real 👽 I understand why
Cosmo: Amongst other things, yeah
Amber: other things you don’t have to explain to me, it’s okay, I meant and mean it
Cosmo: alright
Amber: Thanks for trying to help me
Cosmo: There’s other ways to screw him over, if you want to
Amber: are there?
Cosmo: ‘course
Cosmo: there are things he cares about, even if not his things
Amber: like…?
Cosmo: think about it, he made it obvious
Cosmo: access to drugs and hippie girls
Amber: I don’t have a way to take either of those from him
Cosmo: Yeah you do
Cosmo: you live there, they’re your ‘family’ or whatever nonsense
Amber: not the girls he goes for, they’re always new
Cosmo: you can’t put it in the welcome pack
Amber: I’m not going to draw more attention to him, there’s already too much, and some of these girls would be more attracted to any negatives I pointed out, for reasons I don’t need to explain
Cosmo: drugs then, the new girls won’t be the source of those
Amber: Neither am I
Cosmo: it’ll be blokes
Cosmo: or at least adults
Cosmo: braindead or otherwise, they can’t all be fooled by him and his bullshit
Cosmo: get him cut off
Amber: I’m flattered you think my word is worth more than money to a dealer, but I’m not sure it is
Cosmo: I thought it was nature’s bounty with you lot only
Cosmo: and you pretended to have morals about it all
Amber: pretended being the key word, but I’ll try and get him blacklisted
Cosmo: I’m just saying, fuck up his spot there, that’s the only thing that would bother him
Cosmo: If you can’t then you can’t, sorry
Amber: I just don’t want him to think I care about his behaviour because of the bad sex we had, which he probably will
Cosmo: Yeah, probably
Cosmo: he loves himself enough to believe everyone else does
Amber: If they were my sisters this would be a lot easier
Cosmo: It’s a big enough place to avoid him, yeah?
Amber: But letting him get away with this is giving him free passes for as long as he wants to lie and treat other people the same, I shouldn’t allow it when the only reason is because I don’t really have time for a full blown vendetta, who am I if I do that?
Amber: …sorry for the vent, this isn’t your responsibility
Cosmo: You’re clearly a decent person
Cosmo: You can’t be responsible for all the ones that aren’t
Cosmo: I should do something because he’s my brother, right
Cosmo: but I can’t
Amber: I’m taking the compliment, after that we can stop talking about him
Cosmo: You wanted help with it
Amber: And the dealer angle is helpful ⭐️
Cosmo: Alright, I didn’t have to like but I felt bad for you
Amber: You could’ve stopped there and not made me feel bad about myself
Cosmo: I was trying to do the opposite
Cosmo: you got sarky with your ⭐️s
Cosmo: I didn’t fuck you over
Amber: It was genuine, for a genuinely good idea! I also said thank you and sorry, like, multiple times
Cosmo: Who uses gold stars genuinely
Amber: My dad has sheets of them he never uses sarcastically if you wanna start being someone
Cosmo: Alright, teacher jokes
Cosmo: You understand that it looks sarcastic though
Cosmo: To standard people
Amber: To people who don’t think it was a good idea, you mean, but who are they? It makes sense and will probably work
Amber: and I understand why it’s easier for you to take this stance with me, sure, we’ve been through that
Cosmo: What stance?
Amber: close to argumentative without crossing over the line, defensive
Cosmo: You broke into my house, I dunno how you aren’t getting that
Cosmo: unless you’re purposefully pretending not to, which is your dick move, not mine
Amber: I know I did, but you have no reason to feel unsafe because of me, which we’ve also been through
Cosmo: I don’t, feel unsafe
Cosmo: I don’t think that means we need to talk or get to know each other
Amber: It’s not going to happen again which means you don’t have to see me again, and we can stop talking any time too
Cosmo: You’re acting like I’m being rude
Amber: No, I said it was fine when you asked me if I was offended
Cosmo: What were you trying to do, asking about me
Amber: get the answers
Cosmo: 🙄
Cosmo: Yeah but why
Amber: Why wouldn’t I want to leave you with an impression which isn’t me as some BIG BAD coming through your window? Because I’m not and you wouldn’t think so if we bumped into each other in town anywhere ‘normal’
Cosmo: So you was trying to get yourself out of trouble
Cosmo: Yeah, okay, that makes sense
Cosmo: I just wanted to know why, that’s all
Amber: I don’t wanna be in trouble but it wasn’t that calculating
Amber: isn’t
Amber: meeting new people, striking up conversation in situations that other people often don’t think are natural, kinda are to me
Cosmo: It’s not a bad thing, I could’ve called the police on you
Cosmo: obviously you don’t want that
Cosmo: you don’t need to worry, I won’t, even if it is a bit late now anyway
Cosmo: Sure, but even so
Cosmo: you can’t say you’re doing that on the regs
Amber: You don’t have my name and the description you could give wouldn’t narrow it down very much once you directed them here
Amber: but I’d still prefer you didn’t, I’m not gonna lie
Amber: I don’t get pushed to those extremes regularly, no, because most people who say they’re my friends are and don’t treat me how Dash did
Amber: if you’re waiting for me to say sorry for making the best out of the unexpected, you being there, I’m not going to
Cosmo: I’ve seen plenty of them, they don’t look like you
Cosmo: Well I’m glad to hear you aren’t regularly breaking and entering
Cosmo: I don’t need an apology
Amber: What do you need, besides the ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️?
Cosmo: Ha ha
Cosmo: like I said, I just didn’t get it
Cosmo: and who says I want to leave a bad impression either
Amber: I haven’t met a ⚽️🏆⭐️ before, if I asked too many questions, that’s why, but if I made you feel uncomfortable, that’s a worse impression and you’ll get an apology anyway
Amber: Not you, or you wouldn’t have helped and I’d be talking to the police instead
Cosmo: I’m used to that
Cosmo: Usually from lads though
Cosmo: or girls but it’s more obviously fake
Cosmo: I’m no ⭐️ yet anyway
Cosmo: I’m not being compared to him, even if that means doing shit it isn’t my job to, I’d rather
Amber: I’m not comparing you, in spite of it turning out I only know Dash as well as I know you
Amber: you could’ve told me you didn’t want me coming to watch you play because of the other girls that do, I’m used to plenty at school being jealous of the way I look
Cosmo: And I intend to keep it that way, the lack of comparison
Cosmo: If I say that’s not what I meant will you accuse me of trying to make you feel bad again?
Amber: What did you mean? If you’re not trying to make me feel bad, I won’t accuse you of anything you haven’t done
Cosmo: It’d be weird if you came because my dad will be there
Amber: I’m even more used to that, all my ‘normal friends’ parents are judgmental about my piercings and the tattoos they can see, it’s okay, I don’t have to come
Cosmo: He wouldn’t judge you, but games are about winning, focus, all that
Cosmo: not inviting random strangers
Amber: He’d still be judging me for how he thinks I’ll behave, as a distraction, either way I’m a bad influence 😈
Cosmo: He’d just be pissed off with me, honestly
Amber: I’ll have to wait to watch you on tv one day, keeping it a secret from my parents who’d be 😠 at me
Amber: and if I get too impatient I can always break into the bedroom of one of your teammates, befriend them and cut their number out of cardboard…
Cosmo: You reckon, do ya
Amber: That you’ll be a 📺⭐️ or someone else on the team will be happy to have me appear in their bedroom? Because yes, I do
Cosmo: 😂 Can’t knock the confidence
Amber: Negging hasn’t been considered flirting since approximately the 90s, so no
Cosmo: Reckoning I’m flirting with you borders on delusional
Amber: which borders on what, ableism? Keep going if you have nothing to do but dig to Australia
Cosmo: Entertaining your fantasies isn’t a requirement for being a good person, whatever politically correct label you wanna throw on it
Amber: If my fantasies were that instantaneous I wouldn’t need entertainment from anywhere else
Cosmo: Good luck with that
Amber: Thanks, I am bored enough to attempt construction of a fully make believe world
Cosmo: You have time to get bored?
Amber: it’s not a forced labour camp
Cosmo: you wouldn’t keep around useless stoners if it was
Amber: And as someone who fits that mould, thank god 🙌🏽
Cosmo: it’s usually more exploitation in the name of free love anyway
Cosmo: and that doesn’t sound familiar at all
Amber: Because you’ve never been in any way exploited
Cosmo: I haven’t, actually, but that’s not really the point
Amber: Of course you have
Cosmo: How have I?
Cosmo: You’re chatting shit which won’t detract from the fact that place attracts nothing but predators of one kind or the other
Amber: Your parents sacrificed you to ⚽️🏆⭐️ the same as mine did to me with ✌🏽☮️💙 we’re both indoctrinated, yours just has a definite job prospect attached to it
Cosmo: You don’t know a single thing about me or my parents, you asked a few questions
Cosmo: you confirmed my brother picks off new girls like a opportunist abuser, and I know he ain’t the only one who treats that place like that
Cosmo: I didn’t say fuck all about you or your parents
Amber: Sport attracts predators too, nobody’s condemning it because of how a large number of people in positions of power treat the ones they have power over
Cosmo: Sport is regulated
Cosmo: for fuck’s sake
Amber: We open our doors to vulnerable people, there are always going to be other people who try and take advantage of that, and maybe at the next place they do there won’t also be as many people around who care
Cosmo: Yeah, you’ve identified the problem there
Cosmo: vulnerable people need protection and actual help
Cosmo: not care from a bunch of people who are entirely unqualified to do shit
Amber: They get help from qualified adults, not every person living there is a clueless teenager and you are actually allowed to leave
Cosmo: Yeah, that’s the point, anyone getting enough real help would leave
Cosmo: it’s a half-way house at best and for every ‘success’ and person that gets the fuck out, you have just as many that get sucked into bullshit they otherwise wouldn’t if you weren’t there
Amber: You’ve never even been there
Cosmo: Don’t need to
Cosmo: if the evidence weren’t out my window, it’s in my house and all so
Amber: Dash based evidence would make anyone cynical
Cosmo: You wish he was your only problem
Cosmo: just because he’s a dick, don’t mean he’s not got it from somewhere, or he wouldn’t get away with it
Amber: Nowhere’s perfect or fucked irreparably, you wish it was that cut and dry
Cosmo: I’m not the one who thinks I’m creating a utopian society
Cosmo: no one needs perfect, just not batshit harmful bullshit
Amber: Neither am I
Cosmo: Not you personally
Amber: So stop attacking me personally, get a 📢 and point it out of your window towards someone who really believes all the things you think are harmful bullshit
Cosmo: I’m not attacking you
Amber: You’re saying things I either have to agree or disagree with about my home and way of life that I’ve already had to spend a really long time defending or denouncing in exactly the same way
Cosmo: You don’t like it because it’s true
Cosmo: I can’t help that
Cosmo: but it’s exactly why there’s no point talking again
Amber: I can’t help that my parents like it there and really believe in things I don’t
Cosmo: Don’t they care what you want?
Amber: I go to school, we’ve stayed long enough for me to make friends, as far as they are concerned, I’m getting what I want
Cosmo: Is that all you want though?
Amber: it’s getting my own way more than a lot of my friends do, what 17 year old gets everything they want?
Cosmo: Parents should give a shit about their kid’s happiness
Cosmo: it’s not being a brat about wanting more money and a later curfew
Amber: I care about their happiness too
Cosmo: they aren’t meant to make that your problem
Amber: Putting me first and their own lives to the side would cause problems for all of us, if they’re miserable I’m not gonna be happy, and not expressing it wouldn’t mean it wasn’t still obvious
Cosmo: Are they happy?
Amber: Happier than they’ve been for years, my dad left his girlfriend and my mama has a new boyfriend, they’re both loving their jobs and the people they’ve met here who they aren’t dating too… I’d say they are
Cosmo: You’re scared they’ll want to leave again
Cosmo: or that place will get shut down and they’ll be no choice in it
Amber: They will or it will, what I’m afraid of is when it does I’ll make the choice to stay and they won’t
Cosmo: If they’d rather be helping other people than their own kid that’s fucked
Amber: I’m their 👶🏽 forever but not a child, they’d rather treat me like an adult
Cosmo: Whether you’re ready for that or not?
Amber: Some things you don’t ever feel ready for, but they have to happen anyway and when they do you’re almost always 😁 or at least slightly relieved it’s done
Cosmo: You aren’t old enough to be left anyway, whatever they’d rather do
Amber: An irrational fear for a while longer
Amber: I’m not bored enough for crystal healing
Cosmo: That’s not a thing
Cosmo: you’re taking the piss now
Amber: it’s not something that works, but it’s something that happens
Amber: often
Cosmo: I suppose I don’t even wanna know what that entails
Cosmo: if it’s not good enough for max boredom even
Amber: What are you doing? Now that you’re done making me question my entire life
Cosmo: I really weren’t
Cosmo: I know there’s fuck all you can do but there’s plenty actual adults there could and haven’t long before you showed
Cosmo: I need to go do my run
Cosmo: I’m behind schedule now
Amber: You haven’t really, don’t feel bad, it’s my turn again for putting you behind schedule
Cosmo: Inexcusable, really
Cosmo: If we’d have found a way for you to get back at him and/or get your money back we’d be further behind so win some lose some
Amber: I’m sorry x 9
Cosmo: I get it, I don’t deserve the sincerity of actually bothering to type it out
Cosmo: Call it even then?
Amber: I’d prefer to call us odd but okay
Cosmo: ‘course, got to keep it 👽 I know
Amber: Tempting fate slightly, unless you want to get abducted on your run
Cosmo: I was clearly after an invitation, yeah
Cosmo: I’m alright, tah, only one dickhead who looks like me will be showing
Amber: Is that my invite to a race? Because I don’t think I’d be able to beat you
Cosmo: Is that humility? Doesn’t seem like you
Cosmo: you’ve already been abducted yourself, obvs
Amber: Or shameless untrue flattery
Cosmo: Hmm
Cosmo: Possible, yeah
Cosmo: but you never would beat me so we’re at real delusion again
Amber: Distance or speed?
Cosmo: I have unfair advantages for both
Cosmo: I run up and down a field for 90 minutes a time, and I have about double the leg length you do
Amber: It’s really cute you think I’d let anything happen fairly when I could just cheat
Cosmo: There’s no point having any kind of competition if you don’t follow the rules
Cosmo: take your hollow victory then, see if it feels good
Amber: You’ve made me not want it now! 🥺
Cosmo: N’awh
Cosmo: right buzzkill, I know
Amber: Besides leg measuring, what do you do for fun? And don’t say run up and down a field for 90 minutes
Cosmo: Just what us footie lads are like, good clean fun, unlike rugby
Cosmo: what do you actually do, when you’re avoiding crystal healings?
Amber: The big 🚿 at the end can’t be what makes you happiest either, I don’t believe that’s true of anyone
Amber: other than shopping, I’m sure I do mostly the same as the rest of the girls you know
Cosmo: IDK I’m sure it makes the predatory coaches buzzing when we’re all lathered up 🧼
Cosmo: but shopping is all the girls I know do 😜
Cosmo: I’m the same, is your actual answer, what every 17 year old lad with some disposable income does
Amber: Great, I’ll need the healing to erase that visual…
Amber: It can’t be, because then I’ll have to feel sorry for you AND the girls you know, they’ll have other interests they’re avoiding telling you about, like I am
Amber: the boys I know our age definitely don’t seem like they do much of anything, besides get drunk and high, so there must be A LOT of other hobbies they’re keeping secret from me too
Cosmo: Maybe you’ve uncovered the truth there
Cosmo: Girls and boys don’t tell each other everything, or anything
Cosmo: Or we both know poor examples
Cosmo: Who’s to ever be sure
Amber: But now it’s been uncovered, either way, we can change it
Amber: I’ll go first, the childish faves I was keeping from you are swimming and dancing, because they make me sound about 9 years old
Cosmo: I don’t think so
Cosmo: depends on how you frame it, swimming is great cardio and underwater is a great place to think or not think as much as you need
Cosmo: dancing, likewise great cardio, and good for the soul, sure your lot would put it, mood-boosting for the rest of us
Cosmo: you sound very well-⚪️ed, if anything, not 👶
Amber: It’s your turn
Cosmo: alright, bossy
Cosmo: you already know I like football and I like to run
Cosmo: I like the gym too, swimming as well, actually
Cosmo: going out for meals, drinks, all that stuff
Amber: Nobody likes the gym, the effects and ego boost maybe
Cosmo: I do
Cosmo: it’s a building with workout equipment in, not a torture chamber
Cosmo: and the one at the academy is really good
Amber: you like how much you can 🏋🏽‍♂️ and having your friends to compete against
Cosmo: is that a question or an assumption
Amber: I’m changing it to a question because you caught me in an assumption, which I hate, so ?
Cosmo: 😏
Cosmo: competition is a good motivator, so is seeing progress in your abilities, sure
Cosmo: exercise makes you feel better, whatever form you like doing it in, it’s that simple
Amber: I’m not gonna lie and pretend I do yoga for any other reason than how flexible I am as a result, I guess we finally agree on something, even if it is something shallow
Cosmo: It’s not shallow
Cosmo: giving a shit about your body and your health isn’t just because looking good is nice, it also feels better
Amber: but if I cared about my health there are vices I’ve picked up that I wouldn’t have and things I wouldn’t put into my body which I do, you’re on a journey and I’m doing the occasional day trip
Cosmo: Very hippie-approved
Cosmo: songs about it and everything, right
Cosmo: I do drink, I just try not to get wasted
Cosmo: it’d be unsociable not to at all
Amber: You’d look like a 👽 and you’d have to move somewhere that isn’t Dublin
Cosmo: And change my occupation
Amber: drastic avoidance tactic to stop me from meeting your dad or watching you play
Cosmo: 😂 Not all about you, hippie
Amber: That’s the rudest thing you’ve said to me so far!
Cosmo: And WAGs are meant to be high-maintenance…
Amber: meaning they put time and effort into their appearance, which you just applauded as a virtue in yourself
Cosmo: No, meaning you have to put a lot of effort in to maintain the relationship
Cosmo: but it was a joke before you get all soapbox about it
Amber: a joke I’m not gonna let you get away with making, boy
Amber: but if we need to talk about anything it’s that you don’t think all relationships require a lot of time and effort
Cosmo: I didn’t, it’s a joke that’s made, by people in general
Cosmo: it’s more 🤑🤩 maintenance people are implying, not 🥰😘
Amber: You repeated it, like it’s funny or true, or both
Amber: after I told you I hate assumptions, and stereotypes aren’t any different
Cosmo: They’re inevitable and you’ve made loads about me, my friends and my family so
Cosmo: that sounds like your problem
Amber: The difference is, I’m trying to not and I apologised when I did, you’re doubling down
Cosmo: I’m not doubling down because it’s a joke, which means I didn’t mean it in the first place
Cosmo: You did and that’s why you’re mad
Amber: Why are you like this?
Cosmo: Like what?
Amber: 2 seconds away from an argument at ALL times
Cosmo: You’ve started every one
Cosmo: People like you reckon you can say whatever bullshit you want like you’re so knowing and zen and then I’m the arsehole for not just letting you chat shit on me
Amber: You keep saying people like me, when I’m obviously not like that
Amber: zen or all knowing
Cosmo: I said it was bullshit
Cosmo: It’s what you wanna project
Cosmo: that you’ve got it figured out, which is why you live such a mental way of life, because it’s actually the RIGHT way of life and we’re all stupid and brainwashed, not yous
Cosmo: ⭐️
Amber: I told you why I live there and that I don’t believe in it
Amber: using ⭐️ against me is bullshit
Cosmo: Maybe you can’t help it
Cosmo: you don’t even know you’re doing it
Amber: Do you know you’re being a fucking asshole?
Cosmo: Yeah
Cosmo: do you?
Amber: now I do
Amber: It’s not an intention, but you’re right, sometimes I open my mouth to speak and either of my parents come out
Cosmo: I know the feeling
Cosmo: maybe that’s inevitable too
Cosmo: how individual are any of us really, we’re all just a mess of the people we know
Amber: Better not be! Or I’ve really wasted years fighting to think for myself, carving out compromises to end up not even wanting them
Cosmo: Won’t say good luck with that but
Cosmo: it’s a nice thought, anyway
Amber: A nicer thought than becoming them, living like this forever and being happy with that
Cosmo: What do you want to do?
Amber: It’s stupid
Amber: but I wanna eat 🍕 and buy a new 👗 to wear out somewhere and come home and sleep in a 🛏 on my own or with the same fucking person
Cosmo: That isn’t stupid
Cosmo: I think that’s what a lot of people want
Cosmo: Some variation of, when it comes down to it
Amber: It’s what my school friends already have, that’s why it’s stupid, because I shouldn’t have to fight for it, it’s stupid because they think I have the type of freedom they daydream about
Cosmo: Maybe you do have things they don’t have but want
Cosmo: maybe they’re not as close to their parents, or they’re an only-child who would kill for all the people around
Cosmo: or maybe some people are lucky from the start and some have to make their own
Amber: maybe x 9
Cosmo: If you’re keeping count
Cosmo: You’ll be able to get all those things
Amber: Not for a while, but one day, maybe
Amber: because if I’m keeping count that’s only 4
Cosmo: There’s time for a few more
Amber: If you introduce me to the girls you know who do nothing but shop, I could get a new 👗 in no time, right?
Cosmo: Or you could go with your own friends
Cosmo: the non-commune ones, that won’t cry at a plastic bag
Amber: Maybe… if I hadn’t had the fast fashion rant at them all, I don’t even know I’m doing it, I told you you’d got that right
Cosmo: Ah
Cosmo: I see
Cosmo: I could take you if you want
Cosmo: you’ll have to take cover in the rails if you see one of them coming
Amber: I don’t wanna mess up your schedule again, you’ll have to fit me in when it suits you, not when I’m pouting
Cosmo: Right, so when are you not pouting? 🤔
Amber: When you stop being mean to me
Amber: maybe
Cosmo: Good use of a maybe
Cosmo: How about Saturday lunchtime
Cosmo: I have to eat, after-all
Amber: Teeth off me and my 👗
Cosmo: Not a cannibal
Cosmo: or a moth?
Cosmo: I’m just saying, that’s a free hour, if you’re worried about my schedule
Amber: okay, 1 shop, I promise
Amber: less than an hour
Cosmo: I’ll take that as a maybe
Cosmo: I’m not going to put you on a timer, like
Cosmo: Saturdays are pretty flexible and you’re going to wanna take time to enjoy yourself and all
Amber: You don’t wanna race me, I know
Cosmo: You don’t wanna cheat no more
Cosmo: maybe
Amber: I won’t
Cosmo: Alright
Cosmo: I still don’t wanna make you sad
Amber: I’m not gonna cry because you take 🥇
Cosmo: As long as that’s a promise
Amber: it is, maybe I didn’t know anything about ⚽️ before today but I understand sportsmanship`
Cosmo: What shops do you want to go to?
Amber: I was kinda hoping you’d know the answer
Cosmo: I do, I’ve got you covered then
Cosmo: Pick you up [time]
Amber: from where?
Cosmo: There’s a phonebox outside there, right? Go there
Amber: 🦸🏽
Cosmo: I’ll look for the 🤓 then
Amber: When you asked me what I wanted to do, my first thought was my homework
Cosmo: Serious?
Amber: I have a LOT and it’s really hard to concentrate here
Cosmo: You remember what window is actually his?
Cosmo: ‘cos he’s never in so
Cosmo: You could
Cosmo: as long as you don’t come in the rest of the house, my room included
Amber: Are you serious?
Cosmo: It isn’t my room
Cosmo: just keep to sociable hours, why not
Cosmo: you said homework, not wild party
Amber: thanks
Amber: I’m almost as speechless as I was when you were telling me to leave
Cosmo: I know
Cosmo: I’m not saying I didn’t say some harsh things
Cosmo: It’s been weird but there’s no reason you can’t have somewhere quiet
Cosmo: and apart from me and him, no one really comes up to the first floor much
Amber: weirder than my usual daily life deserves every ⭐️ my dad has
Amber: and so do you, for this and everything else you’ve helped me with
Cosmo: Nah, it’s nothing
Cosmo: not my finest hour, actually
Cosmo: but it’s alright
Amber: it’s not nothing, it’s definitely something
Cosmo: We’re even
Cosmo: it wasn’t all ⭐️s so
Amber: plenty of it was
Cosmo: That don’t make it alright
Cosmo: I don’t make it a habit of being a fucking asshole, believe it or not
Amber: Neither do I
Amber: we’re even
Cosmo: 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Amber: that’s a weird visual, thanks for it
Cosmo: You’re welcome for the artistic inspiration, like
Amber: if your idea is that your teammate bans me from matches too, there are gonna be easier ways than encouraging me to show up with 9 thumb shaped cardboard signs…
Cosmo: My theoretical teammate
Cosmo: That you ain’t gonna meet
Amber: Yes, him
Cosmo: 😏
Amber: The entire squad can’t all have pushy parents and intense girlfriends
Amber: ⚽⭐🏆🥂🤵
Cosmo: You’re doubling down on the whole stalker thing then, yeah
Amber: The positives speak for themselves
Cosmo: Maybe you’ll be offered a better place to do your homework
Amber: for when you’re spending your weekends in a better postcode and Dash’s room’ll have to be off-limits unless I make no noise and write my essays in the dark
Cosmo: Of course
Cosmo: unless you really wanna explain wtf you’re doing to my nan
Amber: Is the 🍊 thing real? To win over your friends, not your grandma, necessarily
Amber: I’d go for a different fruit in that case
Cosmo: It’s more of a thing when you’re a kid but it’s not not a thing
Cosmo: And fruit baskets too, very retro
Amber: okay, there’s my in
Amber: using the wonky ones would help my cause if we’re pretending to your nan I’m in that dire need of sanctuary, but find out her favourites, if she’s not gonna fall for the SOS
Cosmo: Would you rather not be incognito
Cosmo: She might think you’re Dash’s girlfriend or something
Amber: It wouldn’t take long to correct the assumption, but I only would if I had to, like, if she’s suddenly scared she’s living somewhere haunted
Cosmo: Wonky veg at the ready 👍
Amber: Always
Amber: but I’m actually excellent at hiding, which makes me sound how old? 3 maybe
Cosmo: It makes you sound deluded, definitely
Cosmo: I found you well easy
Amber: Because I wanted you to
Cosmo: Not me
Amber: yes you, Dash enters a room very differently, I knew it wasn’t him
Cosmo: You didn’t know me, you couldn’t want me to
Amber: You’ve heard of curiosity, right? I didn’t have to know you to want to find out who you were
Cosmo: I’ve not got 9 lives 🐈
Amber: that you know of
Cosmo: You think that’s a theory to test?
Amber: I’m not dangerous, remember
Cosmo: Allegedly
Amber: You can allegedly run away at the speed of light and even though you haven’t bragged about it, could probably also pick me up and throw me out 💪🏽⭐️
Cosmo: I’m not going to do that
Amber: I’m not a test
Cosmo: Debatable
Amber: Today’s events, maybe, but that isn’t what you should define me by
Cosmo: It’s okay, I won’t
Cosmo: we said we were even, I meant it
Amber: make your mind up on Saturday when I test your patience by trying on every dress I like and ask you what you think
Cosmo: That’s your prerogative
Cosmo: delegated to the bench with the other men
Amber: 🥼👖👟👓 I know you have the money to get a new outfit too because you were willing to give it to me twice
Cosmo: I might
Amber: I won’t tell you what I think if that’s what’s putting you off 😶
Cosmo: I think I can handle your fashion critiques 🤣
Amber: Because I don’t have any fashion sense or because yours is ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and above criticism?
Cosmo: We have different styles
Cosmo: I’m not going to dress like a stoner, you’re not gonna dress like a WAG
Amber: Like a stoner? Really?
Cosmo: I went for the male and female equivalents
Cosmo: so you can’t pout
Amber: Yes I can, you’ve seen me in 1 outfit, which I wore to climb through a window
Cosmo: And I ain’t said nothing bad about it
Amber: there’s nothing complimentary in the tone of us having different styles when you follow it up with I’m not gonna dress like you
Cosmo: Are you going to get your own footie strip? No
Cosmo: It wasn’t an insult, not towards you
Amber: If they weren’t ridiculously expensive, I would, if only because it would annoy you now
Cosmo: Now that sounds 👶
Amber: it’d be worth it to see your face
Cosmo: 🙄😏
Amber: Besides, we’re the same age, I don’t have anything to prove
Cosmo: Am I a test?
Amber: you’re a boy I wanna know, it’d put me to the test if you hadn’t said no already
Cosmo: Somehow I doubt that’s ever been a challenge for you
Amber: I don’t see it as a challenge, no means no, and if you change your own mind, it means you’re open to it and there’s no obstacles to get over
Cosmo: A PC response but a fair one
Amber: I can’t complain when boys take my no for a maybe if I do the same, and I don’t like it, so keeping my mouth shut would be hard
Cosmo: Your mind just jumps to some weird places
Cosmo: I just said we’d make no sense as friends
Amber: That’s your mind leapfrogging to the strangest possible place
Amber: thinking all your friends have to be like you
Cosmo: It’s easier
Cosmo: like you and your school friends, you already put your foot in it
Cosmo: that doesn’t happen when you’re the same
Amber: Nothing happens when you’re the same, nothing ever changes
Cosmo: You want things to change for you, it makes sense for you
Amber: why don’t you?
Cosmo: Why would I?
Cosmo: I’m set up in ways people would kill for
Amber: Why wouldn’t you, even if you love everything that’s happening in your life right now, change can still be good
Cosmo: I’m not anti change
Cosmo: as long as it’s in the right direction
Amber: and I’m the wrong direction?
Cosmo: No, you’re like
Cosmo: a completely different path
Cosmo: we run parallel
Amber: I’m not gonna force you down any paths
Cosmo: I know
Cosmo: and I know it’s rude
Cosmo: but it’d be ruder to waste your time, I think
Cosmo: and I don’t want to do that
Amber: What do you wanna do?
Cosmo: I don’t know
Amber: I can go by myself on Saturday, to make things easier
Cosmo: There’s no need
Cosmo: It’s not like we need to be besties to do that
Amber: besties
Amber: maybe if we were 👶🏽
Cosmo: Well exactly, you get my point
Cosmo: we can just
Cosmo: be aware of each other
Amber: Thanks for not asking me to become unaware of you
Cosmo: Be unfair of me to ask when I won’t
Amber: and when you hate when I pout
Cosmo: That too
Amber: you’d especially hate being at school with me, pouting’s all I do
Cosmo: I thought you liked it? 🤓
Amber: I like learning new things, but not how many new things there are that I have to, what feels like all the time
Amber: progress doesn’t just apply to fitness, I wanna see some with this
Cosmo: That’s understandable
Cosmo: It’s a lot, leavers cert
Cosmo: Do you get any help or whatever?
Amber: Extra work whenever I ask for it, but none of the teachers are expecting me to still be here by the time we take exams, which means I’m another school’s problem or success story, and that could be a different country, so they aren’t gonna work hard to get me through leavers cert, are they?
Cosmo: No, I guess not
Cosmo: They should but you’re right they probably won’t
Cosmo: Do you think you’ll be here?
Amber: No, we’ve been here for months already
Cosmo: If you was leaving you’d be gone already, like
Cosmo: Maybe get another student to tutor you
Cosmo: they’re better than teachers ‘cos they’ll let you know what you actually need to know to do well on the tests
Amber: We’re not leaving while my parents are happy and feel needed but nobody at the commune wants summer schooling and my dad will get restless
Amber: but that’s a good idea while I am, I’ll find someone
Cosmo: I’m not smart enough or I would
Cosmo: I just did what I had to to coast by but it’s not the focus
Amber: You don’t have the time, boy
Cosmo: True
Cosmo: Speaking of
Amber: Oh sorry! 🤓 rant over
Cosmo: You’re alright, I need to actually get a decent workout in now though or it doesn’t really count
Cosmo: Saturday though, yeah
Amber: I’ll be at the phonebox at [just before whatever time he said]
Cosmo: 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cosmo: You’ll remember what I look like and not get in a random car, right?
Amber: I’m not a goldfish
Amber: and if I did forget I’d stalk your 🏋🏽📷
Cosmo: Oh right, I forgot you were a dedicated creeper
Amber: I wouldn’t be 😠 if you did
Cosmo: Too bad 😏
Amber: goodbye x 9
Cosmo: 👋
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toooldforfandom-liveblogs · 5 years ago
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RWBY S07E08 - Cordially invited
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Every time I see "cordial" written I can't avoid thinking that it's passive-aggressive, but I think that's mostly a thing in Spanish (saludos cordiales -> best regards) In this case I'm pretty sure Jacques does mean it in the most passive-aggressive way possible.
I expect insults, fights and generally the worst. So, what I imagine thanksgiving is like but with actual politicians in the table. Can't wait to see this mess, let's do this!
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Is the entire team invited or just Weiss? Because Blake is _really_ good at burning houses down and it'd be a missed opportunity if she doesn't go.
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I almost wrote "wouldn't they at least suspect Watts is around if they've already seen Tyrian?" but they have never even seen Watts. Dude was smart enough to leave once Cinder agreed to Raven's plan.
That makes me wonder how is he going to get revealed. I feel Pietro (or Ironwood?) has to be around for that or everyone is going to go "literally who?"
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Oh look at Ruby, so grown up, planning things on the border of being illegal.
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I've been looking at this paused frame for the past 30 seconds and I can't figure out her expression. Is she smiling? She goes from sad -> this expression -> determined.
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Huh. I wonder if they're reusing an asset from a past season, it looks... not bad but a lot simpler than I've become used to.
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I keep saying this but I really like how the show manages to make Ironwood likable even though he's one step from becoming a dictator. He feels very human.
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What a power move from Ironwood to have both of Jacques's estranged daughters by his side.
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On the other hand, the show has no qualms in making Jacques the most over the top evil they can. Because of course he'd fire Klein.
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The subtitles really make the screenshot here.
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Oh. Penny is here.
Oh no. Please tell me Jacques is not going to ask Ironwood to dismantle her of something.
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Is... Is Qrow flirting with Clover?
I have been avoiding reading fanfiction because I'm so behind but I definitely need more "Fair Play" in my life after this.
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I'm trying to remember if there have been any more women with a larger body type in RWBY. There was the blacksmith with an eyepatch in Volume 5, Lil' Miss Malachite in V6 and now this woman. Progress, I guess?
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Back when "one of the Ace Ops is with Robyn" was a stronger possibility, I was a bit against Marrow being the one to "betray" Ironwood, if only because it felt too obvious. He obviously has issues with how the Faunus are treated in Atlas but he seems to be going for the "fix it from the inside" route.
Related to that, I was also against Harriet being the "traitor," if only because it also felt too obvious that the brash "we're not friends" woman would be the one to betray her team.
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I'm in Team Yang here.
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I _really_ like the animation of her hand here. It's very Weiss.
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That's the saddest, emptiest plate I've ever seen.
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Props to Jacques VA because I feel like there's actual slime on me after hearing him.
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fuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuu
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Yeah, she didn't like that either.
I feel Penny's best outcome after this season/arc would be to just leave Atlas and everyone who can control her behind.
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That was amazing. And he actually looks a lot better with some color on him.
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They were getting to Ironwood (because they _are_ making a lot of sense) but the second Jacques opened his mouth it tainted everything.
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It's awesome that Winter is finally getting the chance to explode at her father (and Robyn liked it) but I think this is going to hurt them more than help them.
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This just screams that there's someone at her back.
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there you go
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Aaaaa stop treating Penny like a lesser being.
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Oh lord help me if she starts crying
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Soft Winter to the rescue. She _has_ been spending a lot of time with Penny, she probably knows that's a sore topic.
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What an interesting exchange. I wonder what Winter got out of it though.
And it really shows that _everyone_ is hiding or trying to hide something this season except Penny. She doesn't even really understand the concept of hiding your true feelings because it's not the right moment. I wonder if that is going to come up at some point.
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The reason I'm not freaking out about Willow here is because I read the DC comic where she appears so it felt like an inevitability. She sounds a lot softer than I imagined.
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To the point she feels like a different character altogether. What happened in the months Weiss was away?
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that pause screams "oh wait I should have used them when he hit you"
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For an unnamed character that has been mentioned maybe twice in the show, that was a really strong intro that said everything we could need about her and her relationship with Weiss.
It's _so_ easy to drink your problems away, and Willow definitely had a lot of problems. But that meant abandoning Weiss and Whitley, who probably resent the hell out of her (Weiss obviously does after seeing her reactions.)
I feel the writer of the DC comic just got a memo saying "drunk rich lady" and went from there because the characterization was so different.
DC comic Willow reminds me of Emma from Ghost Trick:
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Eccentric drunk rich lady. While the Willow we see here is just a sad defeated woman. V3 Qrow vs V6 Qrow.
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lol, "literally who?"
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Standing on a roof while it's raining means serious business.
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Turning off the heating feels comically evil.
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That kid is going to appear frozen to death next episode.
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Was this episode the calm before the storm? It really feels that way, nothing concluded. They are still having dinner, Weiss is still in Jacques's office, Watts _just_ turned off the heating, the Ace Ops are... somewhere(?), even Penny's reaction felt like it was hinting at something.
Willow giving a canonical reason for Whitley being such a little shit was good. I mean, it's only her impression but it makes a lot of sense, especially considering Whitley himself mentioned how hard it was to be under Jacques tutelage. I hope he gets redeemed at some point or another, but sometimes family relationships are unfixable and maybe the best they can do is to get Jacques out of his hair and then go their own ways.
JNR's plan to distract Whitley was a fun way to show us that they are still a cohesive team even though they may not share the same ideas of what's the right thing to do at the moment. I was a bit worried about Ren last episode but he's not that far gone yet.
Penny's entire thing is breaking my heart. There's been a lot of "she's just a robot" talk lately in the show and it's really making me wonder if Penny is going to explode at someone at the end of the season or becoming free somehow. Because there's no way Ironwood doesn't have some sort of way to _really_ control her. Or maybe she'll get controlled by Watts and she'll defeat that by the power of friendship? But something is definitely going to happen with her.
I already wrote about Willow and Weiss so I won't expand too much on that. Just reiterate how real it all felt and how effective that scene was.
I think that's all for now so, until next time!
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thehollowprince · 5 years ago
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Okay. Another Endgame semi rant: You've sorta talked about this on your blog, but those Steve fans who like Steve's ending ( or least their trying to make the best out of it god bless 'em) and chastise other who didn't like Steve's for being salty shippers ( and that's a legitimate gripe- like no-one thought Stucky was going to be A THING, but we all hoped that their deep bond, which goes all the way to when they were like SIX- okay fine *9* would be honoured and respected) are clinging so 1/?
so hard to the idea that Steve created an alternate timeline, where he can do *anything*. Like rescuing Bucky and that timeline's Steve, and stopping Hydra from infiltrating SHIELD. When the intention of the Russos and the writers was quite clearly for him to retire and have life and not be a soldier anymore. (I swear the Russos said that before the backlash became overwhelming ) Like they put him back in the fight when the intention was for Steve to stop fighting, so they'll write passive 2/?
Passive aggressive asides - (sorry lost my train of thought) about how if we don't understand that it's a different timeline, and of course he's not just going to sit back or whatever- and it's like "GUYS. You ALMOST GET IT it's because the idea of Steve sitting back and doing nothing in the main timeline- and almost certainly not getting back in the fight in the alt timeline- because again, The Russos were like "LOL He & Peggy are going to make baby," before Joe was like "He can do anything" 3/
(Okay tumblr conked out so I don't know if you got my last ask) so as I was saying: "We just didn't want our favouite character to be destroyed?" (Well he was in my eyes at least) Anyway sorry for filling up you inbox with asks, I just, had enough of reading those posts and needed to vent you know?
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Okay... sorry it took me so long to get to this but I wanted to make sure I was awake and ready to tackle the whole thing. These caught me at a bad time but now I'm all rested and ready to dig into the meat of it.
To start off with, I have never had an issue with people who liked (or tried to see the silver lining) in Steve's ending. We live in a very big world and it would be rather dull if everyone shared the same opinion on everything, but I wasn't aware of how big the divide was growing until almost a month after I saw the movie. I was upset at Steve's ending and I made a joke about it, and before you know it I have people that are making passive-aggressive posts or even calling you out for not being "a true Steve fan."
And I gotta say, seeing that made me immediately take a step back from the fandom. Like, woah! When did the pro-Steve side become the new Tony stans? Because that's exactly the mentality we were mocking and pointing out for years now, how Tony stans didn't care about anything else except their favorite character's happiness, even of it completely contradicted all of the canon that came before it.
But once I started seeing it, I started seeing it everywhere. Blogs that had been inactive for months started waking up and spreading this idea that you weren't a real fan if you didn't love the ending that Steve got. And while they've changed the way they phrase it, the idea persists. Now it's usually just something along the lines of "wow, look at the character they really like", which is usually pulled out if you try and mention Steve's relationship to Sam or Bucky or Wanda or whomever. And I k ow I've said this before, but that's part of the reason I loved the MCU version of Steve so much. He was more than just him. Steve was Steve because of those around him, how he related to them, how he helped them and how they believed in and followed him despite overwhelming odds. So to just cut all that off, despite that being one of the cornerstones of Steve's fandom and claim that people don't really like Steve unless it involves X character is super disingenuous.
To make matters worse is the actuality of Steve's ending. If you've accepted that Steve did that at the end of ENDGAME, then you have to try and wrap your head around the actuality of what happened. Did he open a new timeline or was he always Peggy's husband in this timeline? If he did open a new timeline, did he prevent a whole bunch of horrible things from happening or did he just sit back and relax and ignore it all? Did he awaken frozen Steve and have him do all the fighting or did he just let everything play out the way it did originally? No one knows because even the writers and directors, the idiots who came up with this idea, can't agree on what happened! It's a clusterfuck of a situation that only gets worse when you apply it to fandom.
I shouldn't have to dig into the whole Steve/Peggy situation, because I've done it before, but just for the sake of completion I'll mention again how nothing ever actually happened between Steve and Peggy aside from that one kiss. They could have been something epic but they missed their window and the fact that the four morons behind Steve's journey couldn't remember that is infuriating. The new thing now, of course, is to mock people who point that out by saying that "Steve and Peggy knew each other for years during the war and just because it's not shown doesn't mean it didn't happen", but them completely miss the irony in stating that something that we have no concrete proof of is canon. It's a godamn unsatisfactory bitch of a situation.
There was even one blog who came out of hibernation that accused me of being "fake woke" for mentioning the negative impact of having arguably the MCU's most political character played by one of their more vocal actors go back to the "good ol' days".
At the end of the day, would I have loved for Stucky to happen? Of course I would have! As has been stated multiple times now, I am severely underrepresented in the MCU and I latched onto anything that could be construed as representation in any capacity, but I also never expected it to happen. This is Disney! I just find it disheartening that our concerns and opinions are considered less then because we turn to these friendships and so on as to why Steve should have stayed, especially because he's one of the few male protagonists that is more than just his physicality but also his emotional connection to people.
I maintain, to this day, that Steve should have just retired in the modern world (or as he called it - Home), because not only would it have made sense for his character arc, but it would have opened up the doorway for a potential return for the next big Team-up movie. Just imagine Steve swooping in and saving Sam with a "Captain America needed my help" line.
When all's said and done, we all have our own opinions on that ending, and the MCU in general, and I've found that it's only a few that are diehard about supporting Steve's ending. I have several mutuals that liked Steve's ending even though I and others didn't, and I wouldn't get rid of them for anything.
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tigerstripedmoon · 5 years ago
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Ozpin Lore in After the Fall + Analysis
So I’ve read After the Fall, which is a very good little read! It’s definitely aimed at a younger audience, as there were a lot of moments where it was ‘tell, not show’ in regards to character emotions that felt jarring to me. That said, the lore dump we get on Team CFVY, Vacuo culture, and events during v1-3 is fairly massive. The story could have been a half a volume in its own right.
But the most exciting things,of course, were the little bits of info we got on Ozpin. They don’t necessarily fill in the blanks- it kind of raises more questions, to be honest- but damn, do we get some good info.
Beware, I’m going to get meta as fuck all up in here.
SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT.
1) Ozpin’s younger than we may think. I found it interesting that in the very first mention we have of Ozpin, it’s not just to point out that he’s got a reputation for being ‘mysterious and a bit reckless with his students’, but there’s a reiteration of the fact that he’s the youngest headmaster Beacon has ever had. This is then followed by Coco comparing him to her younger brother due to his ‘mischievous streak and boyish charm’. This is followed up in a later chapter by Velvet comparing him to a boy playing at his father’s desk when in his office (and that Glynda standing behind him made it worse). Both Coco and Velvet also make the connection that Ozpin looks much younger than his physical age, while seeming much, much older.
There is a distinct possibility, given all this, that Ozpin might be no older, or only a scant few years older, than team STRQ. I don’t think he’s younger- a sixteen year old headmaster would be hard to pull off- but an eighteen to twenty-one year old fresh out of the Academy? He was noted to be a prodigy; he could have gone through the Academy younger than Ruby. Absolutely possible. Or he graduated at 18 and gained field experience for a few years, or taught.
We know approximately how old team STRQ is. Let’s put Ozpin at an age range of 18-21 when he became headmaster.  Assuming Raven had Yang shortly after graduation- at age 21/22, and Yang entered Beacon at age 17, STR would have been 38-39 at the time of the Fall of Beacon, which puts Ozpin at 39-42 years old when he died.
That’s young.
That’s young enough to still have a stupidly youthful appearance. And let’s face it- without the glasses he barely looks older than his students. We’ve all seen the screenshot edits.
This one hurts.
2) Ozpin’s sweet tooth is canon, not fanon. It’s confirmed that Ozpin drinks hot chocolate exclusively, not coffee (to promptly be ignored by 75% of the ozqrow fandom because we like our Ozpin mainlining coffee into his veins). Ozpin also just... has cookies and hot cocoa ready to give to his students at the drop of a hat, like what he offers Velvet, which is adorable and heartwarming all at once. 
(Ozpin is absolutely the dad who volunteers at bake sales. I don’t make the rules, blame RT.)
3). Ozpin is absolutely as mysterious as it gets. We’ve known this for a while, because he is an idiot bastard child, but it gets commented on in the book as well. There are tidbits about how he’s a ‘formidable Huntsman’ but he doesn’t teach classes and that ‘no one had ever seen him fight’. This is really odd for the headmaster of a Huntsman academy. Fighting is what they do. Then again, Ozpin is, as I and others have noted, is written as more feminine in his lack of aggression and passivity, and he honestly comes across as a bit of a pacifist except for when it comes down to lives on the line.
Then again, after centuries upon centuries and lives upon lives of violence and suffering and watching humanity try to tear itself apart, I would probably be sick of fighting too.
4) As of team CFVY’s leaving Vale, Ozpin’s death was unconfirmed. It’s mentioned several times that no one knows what happened to him- he’s basically the Huntsman equivalent of MIA. Qrow was seen taking Ruby into an airbus and leaving, but not returning. Glynda, Oobleck, and Port are trying to retake the school. No mention of Ironwood. No mention of if anyone tried to find him.
Which, I get that this is a young teen novel, but- we know that Jaune has a good idea that Ozpin had died because 1) he was there and 2) he didn’t call anyone for backup like he was asked and I am bitter af that he hasn’t been called out on it. We know Qrow or someone had to have had to have gone back because he had Ozpin’s cane at the end of v3. But there’s no clarity on whether they found him or if there was a funeral or what the death rituals are in Vale (they actually mention what happens with death in Vacuo!) and I need answers ASAP.
... eh, fuck it. Fanfic fixes what canon fails at. If you think this means ‘Tiger is going to write a depressing af cloqwork fic about what happened to Ozpin’s body after the Fall’, then you get a prize! ....or will as soon as I can sit down to write it lol.
5) There is no goddamn way this man is evil. Near the end of the book there is a flashback to team CFVY leaving Vale, and Glynda tells them the last portion of Ozpin’s graduation speech as a sort of good-bye. And it is heartbreaking. Team CFVY is practically in tears at the end and so was I. Because his entire mission statement, the reason he’s fighting and slogging through this neverending hell of an existence is summed up there in a few words. His students are beacons of hope in a cruel world, set out to uplift and protect their fellow man. That’s one of the things he considers part of his job as Headmaster- to help his students become genuinely good people.
Kindness. Hope. Love for your fellow man. Those aren’t things one instills in others to be cruel.
All of the speeches he gives- one is relayed by Coco to Ruby, one he gives to team CFVY, and then the last described above- are written so perfectly that they sound as if they were lifted out of the show. have to give mad props to Miles&Kerry&Myers for that.
...
In the end, all this has made me realize just how much I miss Ozpin- this mysterious, ineffable, melancholy old man, this mischievous manchild too young and too old for the role he played, who gave others hope even when he had none. 
Hopefully we’ll see him- not Oscar, not Ozma, but Ozpin- again in v7.
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jsteneil · 5 years ago
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Neil Josten’s Birthday Bash
in which the foxes don’t get anything done, ever
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Nicky added Dan, Kevin, Aaron and three others to “Neil Josten's Birthday Bash Organization Committee”.
Nicky: can't add Andrew because he still owns a FLIP PHONE but here we go
Dan: hell yeah B-)
Nicky: kevin can fill him in with the details anyway
Kevin: why me?
Allison: because you live with him?
Matt: you're practically attached at the hip
Dan: omg ur roomm8s
Matt: ^^^ what allison said
Dan: yeah
Nicky: OR aaron can do it on wednesdays so that there's no chance of neil finding out :D
Aaron: no.
Aaron left the chat.
Nicky: what
Nicky: the
Kevin: just add him back
Nicky: fuck
Kevin: ffs
Kevin: some ppl are in class
Nicky added Aaron to the chat.
Aaron: im muting you all
Allison: just embrace the fact that you've lived in SC for years and say y'all
Nicky: y'all!!!
Nicky: yeah
Matt: dude don't how are u gonna know when to buy your coordinated outfit and rehearse the choreography if you mute us
Dan: Aaron?
Renee: I do think he muted us
Allison: fuck a crybaby
Nicky: hey
Allison: what's he gonna do? Unmute us?
Dan: asdhskfjdl ALLI
Matt: lmfao
Nicky: moving ON
Nicky: the important thing here is my boy neil's birthday
Kevin: and you wonder why Aaron left
Nicky: what?
Kevin: maybe Neil doesn't want to celebrate his bday
Nicky: no that's too sad
Nicky: next person?
Allison: not to be that bitch
Matt: oh?
Allison: but do we even know when his birthday is?
Allison: fuck you matthew donovan boyd
Matt: sorry i love you
Dan: it was easy
Dan: matt ur easy
Matt: ily babe
Dan: <3
Kevin: jan 19th
Renee: March 31st?
Allison: wait
Dan: uhhhh
Matt: Neil Josten deserves 2 bdayz
Kevin: no jan 19th
Renee: oh i thought we were using the one he chose for himself
Matt: Renee add a smiley face
Renee: :)
Renee: ?
Dan: babe ur mind,,,, im crying
Matt: ikr
Allison: stop using mygf so
Kevin: is it me or does it sound really passive aggressive bitchy with a smiley face
Dan: ye that's the point
Renee: I really wasn't trying to be
Matt: oh no we know, sorry
Matt: i feel bad now
Matt: it was just funny
Matt: sorry
Dan: :(
Renee: It's okay, don’t worry
Renee: :)
Dan: renee STOP i feel like ur going 2 murder me in my sleep
Renee: I could, but I won't
Nicky: im shaking and im not even in your dorm
Allison: and we daily thank god for that
Nicky: hey im an excellent roommate
Nicky: i always leave so cap and matt can have sexy times
Dan: yeah but then u call it sexy time
Allison: ive seen the bathroom nicky
Nicky: that's aaron
Matt: l o l
Kevin: aaron's a neat freak
Allison: exposed
Nicky: erik come get me the people here are mean
Renee: So when's Neil's actual birthday?
Kevin: jan 19th
Nicky: who's gonna ask andrew?
Kevin: HE HAS REAL PAPERS NOW
Kevin: JUST GO CHECK AND LET ME BE IN CLASS IN PEACE
Allison: well okay drama queen
Dan: kevin: *is on the chat as much as us*
Dan: also kevin: guys why r u dragging me here
Matt: it's okay kevin we can talk about it during practice
Renee: Don't goad him, Matt
Dan: lmfao babe u thought
Matt: uh oh
Allison: lol
Dan: we need 2 trounce the ravens nxt wk
Nicky: do we have to
Dan: y'all r hauling ass @ practice or god help me
Nicky: id settle for a close victory
Matt: nicky if you don't help us close the goal next friday im telling neil about his surprise
Nicky: noooooo :'(
Allison: ye renee has enough to do without having to face stuff y'all should have blocked
Renee: Andrew is also a goalkeeper
Allison: yeah but he doesn't give a fuck
Renee: That's neither true nor fair
Dan: i want bragging rights over this vctry, end of the question
Matt: are we just gonna ignore the fact that the fbi chose neil's old bday
Matt: even tho they made him a new identity
Allison: wonder how this conversation went
Nicky: are we ignoring the fact that neil is a goddamn CAPRICORN
Allison: "in my left hand is your birthday date. In my right hand is your other birthday" *shuffles behind his back*
Matt: idk about astrology but I checked and he tried to pass for an aries so what does that tell us?
Dan: shut up adfhskdjs
Nicky: im dying
Kevin: [attached picture]
Matt: did u steal neil's ID
Allison: i thought you were in class
Kevin: he sent it to me
Nicky: his phone can take pics??
Dan: RLY crappy 1s but yeah
Nicky: so all those times andrew refused to send me pics of his Eden’s Twilight's outfits so i could coordinate neil's…
Matt: :/
Kevin: he just doesn't like you
Allison: i would have laughed but you two have been fighting the good fight since last year, dressing neil up
Nicky: hey
Renee: Kevin, that was mean
Nicky: but thanx allison, I think so too
Kevin: sorry
Kevin: he's just difficult?
Nicky: yeah :(
Dan: omg u guys rmr when neil was on k ferdinand's show n he looked like a bite-sized snack in that shirt
Kevin: not exactly what I remember from this interview
Dan: u were pretty 2 <3
Kevin: oh my god
Renee: Didn't Neil keep the clothes?
Nicky: i've never seen him wear them again
Nicky: maybe he STUFFED THEM DOWN THE TOILET
Matt: uh okay
Allison: weird emphasis
Kevin: are you still stuck on that
Dan: what
Kevin: it's what happened with the clothes he wore the first time we went to columbia
Nicky: do you know how expensive that plumber was?
Matt: just a thought but maybe that wouldn't have happened if you didn't force him to come with you and drugged him against his will
Allison: don't tell me someone actually peed on them and tried to flush
Nicky: take it up with andrew
Matt: you literally drove the car
Kevin: what happened in columbia stays in columbia
Allison: omg oh my god
Dan: IM SCREAMING
Nicky: what was i supposed to do, get knifed?
Nicky: also ^^^^ yeah.
Nicky: ANYWAY
Nicky: now that Kevin got us proof that the FBI officially made neil a capricorn again,,
Dan: the fbi be like "oh u thought u could escape ur traumatic past? That's nice buddy
Matt: yeah I don't think beating last year's party is gonna be hard
Dan: here's ur bday n trauma back"
Nicky: HAPPY THOUGHTS
Nicky: :(
Nicky: anyway it's the big 21st, so the first thing in order is BOOZE
Kevin: uh nicky
Renee: He's turning 20?
Matt: what???
Kevin: yeah he aged himself up on his fake papers
Matt: oh my god
Dan: lmfao only neil
Nicky: he is baby
Matt: does. Does he know though. Like did he check when they made him the papers.
Kevin: I'm guessing so
Matt: imagine filling a form or smth and you get the day right but not the year
Renee: Wait Kevin, how did you get neil to send you the pic without telling him about the surprise party?
Nicky: DON'T YOU DARE HAVE TOLD HIM ABOUT THE NJBB
Allison: njbb?
Dan: neil josten's bday bash, im guessing
Nicky: Neil Josten's
Nicky: BIRTHDAY BASH
Nicky: yes
Allison: it doesn’t sound right
Allison: like, something’s missing in the name
Matt: alli we play a sport named after what you get when you take the s from sexy
Dan: 10 bux kevin wishes he didn't have such a stick up his butt so he could reply with exy is sexy
Allison: im not taking that
Kevin: i actually don't know why she named it that
Kevin: she never told the press and she didn't write it anywhere so
Nicky: :(
Allison: oh
Dan: sorry :(
Renee: Maybe coach knows?
Matt: maybe each letter has a meaning
Kevin: how?
Allison: endangering xylophones yearly?
Matt: EXceptional daY
Matt: and then, boom, it's about your name
Renee: Matt, I like that idea!
Dan: allison, no
Kevin: I'll have to ask coach, renee
Kevin: anyway it was always going to be her name, she invented it
Nicky: someone bring neil in so he can say something super serious about how kevin is a legendary striker whose name is already associated with exy and make us choke with emotion
Kevin: nicky….
Nicky: look it's working and he's not even there
Allison: it's the josten effect
Dan: changing your entire life's beliefs one extremely tragic remark at a time
Matt:...
Matt: someone change the subject im sad
Nicky: BIRTHDAY BASH
Kevin: oh yeah nicky asked me how i got neil's ID
Allison: and?
Kevin: i told him i signed him up for his own exynews account so he could stop hogging mine for streaming
Kevin: so i needed his name and birthday
Kevin: and then we got into an argument about date formats
Nicky: dd/mm/yy 4ever
Allison: eww
Kevin: so he sent me a pic instead of writing the date
Dan: it's the european propaganda getting to him
Kevin: i guess i really have to get him an account now
Dan: kevin i know you're entirely serious but that's so funny
Nicky: THE REST OF THE WORLD USES IT
Matt: admit it, you can't wait to go back to Germany because you secretly like the metric system
Nicky: yeah dicks sound bigger if you use centimeters
Dan: didn't need 2 know that
Nicky: not that erik needs that :)
Dan: I DON'T WANNA KNOW
Renee: ….
Matt: honestly im glad i don't understand german or i would never live down all the skyping
Dan: renee's like "can't relate" lmfao
Renee: No indeed
Allison: hell yeah that's my girlfriend
Renee: <3
Allison: hey minyard if you're secretly lurking now is the time to leave
Allison: …
Renee: No, he truly muted us earlier
Dan: are we surprised?
Renee: we'll catch him up on what we decide to do later
Renee: Nicky?
Nicky: oh, yeah!!!
Nicky: BIRTHDAY BASH
Matt: here we go again
Dan: mamma mia
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babeejeon · 5 years ago
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Back To Love
Author Note: Heyy! I am back after a long while. Actually, I didn’t plan to write but as I read some of @chloefran ‘s writings, I felt like my ‘yoongi loving hours’ is coming. Reading her writings inspired me so  I wanted to write somethings despite my awaiting assignments, lol. It took longer than I expected it. Also, I am so sleepy.  So this might not be the best writing of mine, but I loved the storyline so wanted to share it. Hopefully, you enjoy it~~
- Min Yoongi angst/fluff drabble-
Y/N’s took a stroll down her memory line as soon as her flight landed on South Korea. She busied her mind while trying to catch her transfer flight to Daegu, her hometown. But as soon as she took her seat on the plane her hands took out the old mp3 player from 4 years ago. She quickly put the earbuds on and closed her eyes.
~~~
“Yah, Min Yoongi! We are here to study, why are you trying to quit? You promised me that you will solve those questions.” She whined.
“I am solving already! It just doesn’t hurt to have a little chatter from time to time.”
“You didn’t even solve two questions, no talk this time please!” she said, looking slightly annoyed. He giggled at her behaviour which she gave a questioning look.
“Okay, okay. I am going to solve all of these and you will need to listen to me all night!” he said and start to solve his questions determinedly. Y/N felt her heart soften at his pouty face while focusing. Never she thought being the top student of the school would bring some happiness to her life, but Yoongi proved her wrong. Even if she is just tutoring him on math, she felt happy to spend her time with him.
~~~
Y/N heard the heavy knock on her door. She wasn’t expecting anyone since it is exam week and everyone in the dorm were studying like zombies. When she opened the door, she was surprised to see Yoongi panting.
“Yoongi?”
“Hey.. *breath* I just.. *breath* ran here!” he said.
“Would you like to come in?”
“No, I just came to bring you coffee. Good luck with your studies Y/N! But don’t stress because I know you’re going to ace them.” He gave her a big gummy smile.
“Thank you!” she said in a tiny voice with a blush. After a few seconds of stupid silence, she thinks of bringing a glass of water to him.
“Do you want me to bring you some water?”
“No, thank you. I really need to go to my part-time work in the convenient store. That is why I ran in the first place. Here, I hope this coffee will help you to study better! Good luck!” he said and gave her a quick cheer-up gesture and left running. She closed the door and leaned the back of the door. The coffee in her hand she stared at the coffee just like the lovesick teenager she is.
~~~
She was lost at the flow of memories and the songs from her mp3 player were doing a good job to abstract her from the world. Suddenly she felt a tap on her shoulder, and she looks up to see a man she didn’t expect to see: Min Yoongi.
However, before she can react, the stewardess asked her what she would like to have as a drink.
“Tea, please!” she said while her mind was still trying to process what is happening in the exact moment.
When the stewardess handed her the drink and left, Yoongi turned her.
“Y/N?”
“Yoongi?” she said with a crack in her voice.
“It is really you! It has been a long while.” He said.
“Yes, it did. I didn’t think I would come across to you.”
“Neither did I! I thought you will never come back from there.” He said.
“I just go abroad to study and since I graduated, I decided to come back here again.”
“Here as Daegu?” he asked.
“No, not really. I am just going to Daegu to visit; I am going to move to Seoul.” She answered.
“I see.” He said thoughtfully.
“How about you, Yoongi? Are you living in Daegu?” she asked.
“No, I live in Seoul, too. I am going Daegu for a wedding, actually my brother’s wedding.” He said.
“He is marrying? Oh my god, it is a lovely thing to hear! Please give my best to him, congratulate them for me.” She said with a happy smile.
“Yes, he is.” He smiled too.  After a little pause, he continued.
“Would you like to come to the wedding?” he asked eagerly.
“I mean if you don’t have any plans.” Then he added.
“Oh? I don’t know, that would be lovely. But I don’t want to cause trouble since I am not invited.” She answered shyly.
“You should come Y/N, everyone would be happy to see again. Also, I am inviting you, I am the little brother of the groom. You should definitely come!” he said excitedly.
“Oh, okay!” she giggled at his antics.
“When is it?”
“Tomorrow evening.” He said with a satisfied smile.
“Okay, also you need to give me the address too.” She added.
“Don’t worry about it I can take you there…”
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Y/N’s phone buzzed in the makeup table. She glanced at her phone to see Yoongi’s message
‘Already here kekeke’
‘Waiting you..’
‘Are you ready?’
‘omg I am bombarding you with questions’
‘sorry -_-‘
‘oh god I am still doing it’
She giggled at his messages.
‘coming in two minutes..’
She replied at him and checked her make up one last time. With a satisfied look, she wore her heels and grabbed her purse. Lastly, she sprayed her perfume one last time and left her room.
When she left the elevator, she saw Yoongi waiting in the lobby of the hotel. She approached him with a smile. He wasn’t aware that she is already in the lobby, so she admired his look. But to her luck, his eyes caught hers a few seconds later and he stared at her blankly. She felt confused but waited till she was next to him.
“Hey!”
“Hey Y/N!”
“Ugh! Yoongi, is there anything wrong with my look?” she asked worriedly since he was staring at her.
“Huh? No, no. You look stunning.” He blushed at his last sentence. Which caused her to blush too.
“Thank you.” She said with a smile that she can’t hide.
“Let’s go, shall we?” he asked, and they went to his car.
He opened the door for her, he was being a total gentleman. Of course, he has that dorky side of his teenage self, but he is standing in front of her as a man, an amazing man. Hence his kind manners don’t help her heart skipping beats.
He was giving his attention to the road but continued their conversation eagerly and didn’t miss a chance to make her smile. When he parked his car, he quickly opened the door for her and gave her a wink.
‘Good way to ruin my heart!!!’ Y/N thought to herself.
As they entered the building Yoongi was leading her to the elevator.
“Isn’t the wedding venue on this floor?” she asked.
“Yes. But we are going upstairs to meet them.”
“Are we???” she gave a confused look.
“Yes, we do.”
“But I don’t even know the bride yet…” Yoongi cut her babbling.
“Oh my god, you didn’t change a bit Y/N! No need to be shy, you know everyone except her. Plus, I am by your side.” He said and put his hand to her shoulder. She felt herself blushing.
“I am not shy..” she pouted.
“Okay, then there is nothing to worry. Let’s go!” he teased her.
“Min Yoongi!!!” she said with furrowed brows. Yoongi mimicked her face.
“Wow! It has been so long since you call me like that!
Min Yoongi!!! Solve these damn questions.
Min Yoongi!!! Your math exam is just around the corner, are you aware of this fact?!
Min Yoongi!!! We are here to study!
How long that has been? I haven’t even realized I missed those days. You are so cute when you are showing your passive-aggressive side.”
“Shut up!” she said with a pout.
“Okay, I will but let’s go!” he said and dragged her to the elevator. Before she knows, they were already there and Yoongi pulled her to the room. His mother was first to notice them.
“Oh my god, Y/N! You are here! I missed you.” She said loudly which made everyone in the room to be aware of their arrival.
His mother gave her a sincere hug. His dad also greeted her.
“Where were you Y/N? I know you go for education, but everyone missed you so much. Every time Yoongi comes to visit us, he asked if there is any news from you.” His mother said.
“I am sorry Mrs Min, I was so focused on my study that I didn’t have time to visit or even call. But when I graduated, I realized how much I missed here and everyone, so I decided to move back.” Y/N explained.
“Moving back to Daegu?”
“No, to Seoul. But I will have a lot of chance to visit Daegu anytime.” She said.
“Oh! Happy to hear that. You and Yoongi can see each other just like your high school years.” She said. Yoongi groaned.
“Mom, you are embarrassing me!” he said.
“Aww, sorry love! You can go and introduce her to Sujin. They are in the next room.” She said. Yoongi dragged her out immediately.
“Mom really loves to tease me!” Yoongi said.
“She got my revenge!” She stuck her tongue at him. He rolled his eyes at her. Suddenly the door opened and his brother, Yoonho appeared.
“Y/N!”
“Yoonho!”
They laughed in unison. They hugged each other.
“Here meet my soon to be wife, Sujin.” Yoonho said and winked at Sujin. Sujin blew a kiss at him.
“Wow! You guys invented another level to be cheesy. Congrats!” Yoongi groaned.
“Ahaha! No, they are so lovely.” Y/N smiled.
“Thanks love!” Sujin said. It didn’t take a while for her and Y/N to bond enough to forget the boys. When the wedding organizer came to the room and informed them only 15 minutes left, they cut their talk. Y/N and Yoongi wished them luck and went to the wedding venue.
“Yoongi, where should I sit? Show me a table with people I know please!” she said.
“You are sitting with me.”
“But there is for family.” She protested.
“So? You are sitting with me. I put you next to someone you know, me!” He teased you.
“Okay, Min Genius!”
Min Genius was his nickname from high school. He smiled at the reference.
“Come on!” He held her hand and brought her to the front table and they sat next to each other. A few minutes later, the ceremony started.
Y/N was watching it with full attention while putting her hand under her chin. Yoongi was watching her. He tried his best to drag his eyes away and focus on the wedding, but she was so beautiful, and he couldn’t help but stare at her.
‘She looks angelic! God help my heart!’ He thought to himself.
When Sujin arrived the alter and hold Yoonho’s hand, Y/N’s smiled so hard. Yoongi was going to miss it if she didn’t smile like that. So, he turned his looks to the couple.
Vows and ‘you may kiss the bride’… Little things that happen in every wedding. Cliché but it warms every female heart. Soft love and loving looks. Picture perfect as if it is coming straight from a fairy tale.
As Y/N was no different from other females, she was enjoying the sight. But maybe a little more, with her hopeless romantic self. She didn’t know she was showing her enjoyment to outside, so it surprised her when Yoongi pointed it out.
“So, you love weddings?” he asked her.
“Huh? Where that comes from?” she asked dumbfoundedly.
“From your face. You were smiling so hard.” He said.
“Did I?” she giggled but continued to her words.
“It is not the weddings; it is the real love I am enjoying to see. Such a lovely sight.” She explained. Yoongi looked at her eyes but she turned her eyes to the couple. They were dancing and other couples are joining them one by one. Yoongi held his hand out to her.
“Dance with me?” he asked. She nodded and held his hand. He held her close and they started to dance slowly. He was staring at her eyes without saying anything. Only swaying with the music and holding her close. She was feeling a little uneasy with eye contact, but she continued to look at his eyes. They swayed like that, unaware of the time or other people. But when the DJ changed the music and announced the cake ceremony, their silent bubble dropped, and they decided to sit.
After the cake ceremony, they went to the newly wedded couple to celebrate. After hugs and photos, they were talking about the ceremony.
“I saw you two were dancing!” Sujin said excitedly.
“Ahaha! Yes, we did!” Yujin said.
“Finally, we saw you two dancing. It was a pity that, that you couldn’t dance on the high school prom.” Yunho said. But he regretted it next minute. An awkward silence settled, Yoongi’s jaw was tensed and Y/N was looking down. Sujin cleared her throat and told that they need to talk one of the guests and dragged Yunho away.
Y/N looked at Yoongi and he sighed.
“Can we talk a little, outside?” he asked. She nodded and followed him to the outside. Once they were outside and alone, Yoongi turned to her. His eyes were glossy.
“I am sorry! I thought it would be a good idea to not to talk about it. But seems like even if I tried to avoid talking about it, it will still come up. So, it is better to talk it out.” He said.
“I am sorry to leave you alone that day Y/N. I went to Seoul for an audition. In my calculations, it would take only two hours and I would be here just in time. But as I passed the audition, the producers put me through other levels of audition too. Before I realize, I was too late. I regretted it; I really did. So as soon as I could, I took the bus to Daegu. But when I arrived you were already left.” He said and paused for a breath.
“Yoongi, it is okay. It is all in the past now…” he cut her words.
“No, it is not okay! I promised you that we would do that dance together. And I promised my self that I would take beautiful photos of yours when you were giving your speech as the top student of our school. I promised my self that I would confess to you after the dance. I wanted to tell you I loved you. I knew you were going to study abroad, but I believed we could still continue. But because of my stupidity, it didn’t even start.” He said and a tear rolled down his eye.
“Yoongi…” she said. It was overwhelming for her.
“I tried to forget you; I really did. Because I knew that after what I did you won’t forgive me. I go out with different girls, tried to move on. But never really get over it, something always stung my heart.
When I see you on the plane, I didn’t know what to do. But when you didn’t push me away, I really wished for another chance. I know it is not easy for you, but it is also not easy for me. Maybe if you give me another chance, I can prove my love for you. We can start seeing each other without a hurry, till I convince you to trust me.” He said.
“Yoongi! I didn’t know your side of the story. Yes, I got angry at you. I also tried to see other guys. Seems like a part of me also stayed sad. Because when I saw you at the plane, it gave my heart all that weird beats again. I never thought you loved me in a romantical way. But my anger was because of your promise. My anger was also to myself for falling in love with you. But it is okay. Now we both know about each other’s side. Please don’t cry, it breaks my heart! Also, we can see each other, just like your mother said.” They both giggled at her last sentence. She approached him and wrapped her arms around him.
“Don’t cry! I don’t want to see you sad. Because I love you.” she said. He looked at her.
“You really do?”
“Yes, I do.” She said and peck his lips. He gave her a big gummy smile and gave her a big squishy hug.
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nightswithkookmin · 4 years ago
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Jikook and Taekook in The Soop: Ep 06 Analysis
PREFACE
This discussion is a continuation of my opinion piece on Soop episode 06. I explained in that post, how I think Soop was initiated by BigHit and BTS to repair and replenish the dwindling bond of the group as prior to Soop, there had been some friction between some of the members which could be traced as far back as November last year and had only increased exponentially through to March this year.
Now I said this without prejudice, and knowing full well there are a ton of content withheld from us in the present day likely to be released years from now that may reveal a moment, a behind scenes, that to others may seemingly counter this perception of mine.
But like my theory on the Jikook break up moments, I stay my ground. I don't draw my conclusions based on a single moment of tension happening in isolation because they are human- a jet lag here and a muscle pain there could lead to an unnecessary outburst here or there. That's not it.
I look for patterns, take into consideration their personalities, note how a moment impacts or is likely to impact those established values and patterns of behavior that BTS themselves consciously contribute to to influence their public image and reputation- I take this delulu business pretty seriously you know? Lol.
For instance, when I say Jikook broke up it's mostly because I've noticed that over a period of time, certain things that make Jikook a couple to me are no longer present between them, in the way they interact, rather than that there was a few seconds tension between them in random moment on screen.
And I am well aware, that when some people say they feel Jikook are broke up that they are basing their conclusions off of their own insecurities about them rather than that they have seen enough, thought through enough about those observations to reasonably draw such conclusions.
For example, because to them Jikook interactions is their evidence of a romantic relationship, then Jikook not interacting in a random moment would indicate to them that something is wrong and that they are broke up- basic delulus.
I employ a different metric. Not better, just different. For example, I used them not knowing certain things about themselves within certain periods as an indication something is off.
This is not a hard rule. It could be random but when the information they are in the dark about came into existence within a period I suspected they weren't a couple due to other things I had noticed within said period, then that becomes a confirmation of that period for me. Feel free to disagree.
Jikook know everything about eachother, EVERYTHING. Or at least, they act like they know or should know everything about eachother.
They love to be the ones to know eachother the most and love to show off their knowledge about eachother like in the recent Bangtan Bomb when JK said he knew Jimin could touch his toe when he stretched.
'See, I told you he could touch his toe.' he says with pride. Then the bit about Jimin and beans, Jimin and the convenience store underwear etc.
So when JK suddenly doesn't know Jimin took pop dancing or when Jimin acts surprised that JK had gimbap it raises an eye brow. No?
What's more concerning to me is their reaction to news like this. JK zoned out for a bit and Jimin looked confused out of his wits in those instances. You could tell its something that really bothered them.
And while this may be an isolated incident for most, it's usually not for me or even surprising to me. Because, as explained, usually moments like these fit into an established pattern of inconsistent behaviours identified within those specific timelines prior to such moments, from my observation.
And I see most people also don't know how Jikook looks like when they are not 'together.' Which is also part of the problem.
To most people, a Jikook break up would look like the apocalypse up in BTS- it's not.
I've said several times in my blogs, if you believe Jikook are real then pay attention to what they are and not what you expect them to be. Their relationship parameters are set by them not us and our ideosyncracies.
To me and the way I see them, a Jikook break up is and would always be a return to friendship.
When Jikook break up they revert back to being friends. Friendship is their default, in the group setting anyway.
And as I've said, they lose or strive away the qualities that make them a couple during break ups but at a bare minimum their friendship will be there- for the harmony of the group.
And I think this is why some Jikookers theorize that Jikook knew the consequences their relationship was going to have on the group before entering into their relationship.
While I disagree they thought things through before deciding to commit to a romantic relationship, I agree that they know and have considered the impact their relationship can have on their group.
It is why they revert and will revert to being friends during times like that so their break up and conflicts doesn't affect the dynamics of the group.
I think this is one thing they both very much understand and commit to, to make sure their shenanigans doesn't impact the dynamics of the group- they owe their bandmates that much.
It is also this understanding that allows them to thrive and hide within the group.
What all this means is that, in times of a break up, the skinship will very much be there, the wearing the same attire will be there, the wearing the same bracelets will be there, they will still ride together if they have to- because none of these is what make them a couple!
And a fight is not a breakup, mind you. Often when they fight, I find they may not want to be around each other among other things but they don't lose the qualities that make them a couple.
You can still see their couple aura in such times. Whereas in the case of a breakup those couple qualities disappear entirely. In my opinion.
Perhaps I should make a blog post on what I feel makes Jikook a couple and how those qualities disappear around the times they break up? I'll think about it.
I have stated over and over that, skinship, car sharing etc are all not in any way indicative of a romantic relationship, not to me anyway. And honestly, if you can't tell between Jikook as friends and jikook as a couple- do you even deserve rights? Consider your delulu membership revoked. Lol
And if you aren't observant, shy away from angst, see them as a fantasy rather than actual human beings in an actual romantic relationship- subject to change, subject to growth, susceptible to temptations; if you mistake things that make them friends for things that make them a couple you would not spot their break ups when they happen. Or worse, you'd dismiss and overlook them when they do happen.
Deadass, you could be very much looking at the end of Jikook but still screaming power couple extraordinaire-
Isn't that where we are with Taekook? People mistaking all the things that make them friends for a romantic couple?
People dismissing all the questionable moments that's happened between them over the years- like Tae saying he couldn't even tell JK had been given a mission to ignore him because Jk ignores him anyway behind cameras, Tae's passive aggressiveness towards JK like in the VLive he exposed Jikook, the missing birthday wishes on Twitter etc- and not reflecting on them enough to critically examine their impact and what it says of the state and nature of their relationship?
Taekook in the Soop is an indictment of the shipping community. But I am not here to police anyone's delusions- freedom of belief, speech and all that jazz.
What I am here to do today, my dear delulu colleagues, is to examine Taekook in the soop and share my thoughts on the infamous conversation they had in that episode.
I will also be pointing out a few observations I made about Jikook in that episode that I feel will help shed more lights on the current dynamics between Jikook which further proofs Jikook is real.
TAEKOOK IN THE SOOP
Taekook's conversation in Soop 06 is shaping out to be one of the most controversial moments in the history of BTS ships.
To some it was a doze of reality, a game changer, if you will and had some people questioning their sanity while others jumped off the Taekook bandwagon all together.
But some die hard fans of the ship were quick to come up with a theory to explain away what had transpired that night as big bad BigHit curating that entire scene in order to bamboozle them and absolve themselves of all guilt for having previously separated Taekook and forced them to hide their relationship- scammers never die. Lol
Why would Taekook have that conversation on camera if it was that serious, they ask.
If they aren't close why did JK put his hands around Tae here? Why did he look at Tae there? They fist bumped in the background of this MV, surely they are a couple- y'all know how I feel about skinship being used as a determinant of romantic relationships so I'm just gonna roll my eyes here and keep it pushing-
This is what happens when you whimsically and randamly label a ship as real without due diligence, without conducting the necessary tests that allows you to reasonably assume that that ship is or could be real.
A ship is not real until it's breached the fourth way into alternative shipping and I'm sorry, Taekook has not breached that fourth wall. No other ship in BTS has breached that wall except Jikook. I have explained this over and over again.
How can Taekook breach the fourth wall when half of the moments, half of the content needed to establish it's piercing moment exists in the imagination of people?
By claiming BigHit hides, and cuts Taekook moments or any other ships moment, by claiming Taekook's interactions are mostly off camera, these shippers are shooting themselves in the foot and fooling no one.
Because what they are indirectly saying basically is there aren't enough moments to analyze upon whose findings we can draw such conclusions that Taekook is real.
I have a hard time believing Jesus is real and I'm a Christian. You think I'm about to buy that Taekook is real, based on faith??? Y'all tripping.
And no. The skinship don't count either. I mean people were running around the corners of the internet swearing up and down Jimin and Mina were dating based on their skinship until it was revealed Jimin had been abusing Mina all those years.
Skinship is performative and not a reflection of true intimacy or true bond.
That being said, yes I see Taekook's relationship. I see their dynamics. They are beautiful and as a multishipper- I really dig their bond. I do.
I have called them the evil power duo of BTS. I have said they don't have much intimate interactions between them on camera but when they activate their evil powers, lord do they set my insides on fire.
WHY FILM THAT BIT ON CAMERA?
For quality entertainment purposes. Lol.
Soop is a quasi self produced production by BTS. As such they themselves created the content, concept, decided where they were going to be, what they were going to do at what time and most importantly who they were going to be with or hang out with.
Everything was pre determined by BTS and the schedule was presented to BigHit- the camera crew and staff, beforehand so the staff knew where to place cameras, what equipment they were going to use and what props they are going to have to provide for BTS for effective filming.
Unlike run or Bon V where BTS have little creative control, BTS played a major role in the production of SOOP. So if that bit was staged then it wasn't staged by BigHit, but by BTS themselves- including Tae and JK.
I explained in my previous post, how I felt Soop is business but also BigHit's way of shutting BTS in a room and forcing them to settle whatever differences had crept up between them that had been affecting the dynamics of the group and threatening the longevity of their group around that period.
I said it was no different from Rookie King where they had an episode where BTS was allowed to shout their grievances off the top of a roof to foster unity among the members.
It's also no different from the missions they've are given from time to time or the love letters they have been asked to write to eachother. The objective of such projects have always been to bring the members closer, to build intimacy and to foster unity amongst them. Soop follows suit.
What's of interest to me and what you should be pondering over is what had led them all- BTS and BigHit, to embark on a project of this nature this time around.
BigHit is a business and can only stay on top of the game for so long if BTS is in the game. Them disbanding impromptu due to petty conflicts and misunderstandings amongst them will be a huge loss to BigHit.
And if you think petty issues aren't enough to bring down their empire- you are in the wrong delulu industry. Lol.
Kpop is wrought with stories of these nature. There are a lot of bands that debuted with and around the time of BTS's debut that are disbanded now due to the least misunderstandings- google it. I dare you to.
BTS do have issues from time to time that does threaten their band. How often have we heard them talk about almost disbanding? Remember 2018? Remember when JK cried because Hobi almost left the group? Remember when JK almost left the group to pursue a career in dancing?
The Kpop industry is hectic and brutal and bands within this sphere are fragile. it's easy to jump ship than to keep sailing. I mean, there's a reason Korean interviewers keep asking BTS their secret to staying together and for this long.
As RM puts it in the recent KBS interview, they are seven boys from different backgrounds in the same boat headed in different directions. That can create a lot of clashes here and there. So when tensions arise that they can help it, they take initiatives like Soop to help nip it and replenish their bond.
They don't allow issues to fester on to the point they want to go their separate ways. BigHit loves this about them and encourages that among them.
Do y'all see why I side eye people who claim BigHit is not happy with any pair within the group because they are real and wants to hide and suppress them?
Left to BigHit alone, BTS would be in one big happy gay polyamorous relationship with eachother if that meant the success and longevity of their business- they are depending on it. They would rather BTS keep the love in the barn than spread it elsewhere, if you know what I mean.
How are BTS portrayed in Tiny Tan? The bond you see in that animation is not just a reflection of BTS's actual bond but also a reflection of BigHits vision of their bond.
Jimin is portrayed as that hyung who is always watching over JK because he loves him so much. Tae is also portrayed as the one hyung who will dive to save JK. Tiny Tan is BigHit's ideal intimacy goal for the boys.
Again, BT21, how are their friendships portrayed in there?
It's absurd thus to think, believe or even assume that if there is an actual real intimate relationship between any of the boys, that Bighit's objective would be to hide and suppress it or even to kill it.
BTS's intimacy is a currency BigHit transacts with. But that doesn't mean BTS doesn't bank on it too. They are proud of their bond, often flaunt it. They know it makes them stand out of the lot and it's what has led to them staying together for this long in the business. They have a pretty strong bond.
They wouldn't have agreed to do this project Soop if they didn't want to or didn't think they needed it. They really love eachother as a team, as a band; they love working together and care about their careers unlike other bands we know. Cough, cough.
They are the blueprint and they know it. The last thing they want is for something as trivial as a misunderstanding to break them apart- Hobi said in his recent YouTube live how BE is their voice and an expression of their feelings and I can't wait to hear all the songs on the Album to understand what they've been through these past few months.
If building intimacy is the objective of Soop, then conversations like that of Taekook really shouldn't be shocking. It's to be expected.
If they felt the need to talk it's because they felt they was something they both needed to get off their chest.
Is a content of that nature good for ratings? Absolutely. Does that mean they performed it? No. Not at all.
It's similar to what Jimin did with JK in Rookie King in order to get closer to each other. They were friends. You think he couldn't have just approached JK off camera and told him how his actions hurt him?
How often have we heard RM or Tae ask if the cameras were they to capture a moment where the members have claimed to have cried and consoled each other?
See this is why people think Jikook is fake. They just don't understand that these boys choose to share certain intimate moments with the us out of love, out of a need to connect and have people share in their moments.
It's no different from BTS filming themselves screaming when they heard of that BB news. They share their joy, their pain and their conflicts with us as a way to connect with us.
How often have we wished the VMin dumpling fight was recorded, or that the rain fight was recorded? But when such similar moment is recorded y'all want to question the intention behind it.
Besides, having conversations like these on camera is the perfect cover for them to be vulnerable with eachother without feeling too vulnerable or feel like they are exposing themselves too much.
It's similar to how people choose to text or be vulnerable with others through letters and texts rather than in person. Its the fear of vulnerability. Being vulnerable like that in person can be extremely scary for them too. They are human too and sometimes they find their confidence and their voice when they turn on the cameras.
It's ridiculous to think a moment is staged simply because it is or feels like an intimate moment- Y'all claim BigHit hides Taekook's intimate moments and when they show it to us and it's fake? Chileeee!
If that moment was staged, then Jin apologising to Tae after their fight is fake, the fight itself was staged, V's letters were staged, V crying when reading those letters was staged- y'all see where I'm going with this?
None of it was real and we've all been bamboozled- Let's pack our bags!
Seriously though, we can't sit behind our screens and pick and choose which content is real and which is not simply because it doesn't align with our delusional theories. It doesn't work that way.
Especially not when everything we see is captured by the same lenses, edited by the same people and distributed by the same company.
Besides, Tae said the reason he did that was just to spend time with JK- which was the objective of Soop, wasn't it? For all of them to spend time together and bond?
How then is Taekook bonding by having a meal together any different from Hobi spending time with NamJoon in the mountains? Or Tae riding around the country side with Hobi? Or RM and Kook painting?
I'm yet to figure out the sequence that the entire project was shot in as I still haven't seen the full episodes. But I'll bet if there were any Taekook bonding moments, they were shot after their heart to heart moment, not before it. Tae wouldn't have been shy to invite JK had it been so. But who knows, I could be wrong.
TAEKOOK vs JIKOOK DYNAMICS
On Taekook's dynamics, I stated during our discussion on their love language that I don't see Taekook as emotionally compatible or emotionally dependent on each other even much less that they speak each other's love languages. They don't.
It's no secret Taekook have always lacked a certain level of mutual emotional dependency and vulnerability within their dynamics. To me anyways.
Rarely would you see them being emotionally vulnerable with eachother the way Tae is with Jimin or Jk is with JM. The only time I have seen them close to being emotionally vulnerable with eachother was at an award show when Tae cried and JK comforted him. But even that felt impersonal-
again the thigh slapping, cheek squishing, pegs on the cheeks, cuddling in bed etc doesn't count. That's skinship and you know how I feel about skinship or what I think of it.
When I say emotional vulnerability and dependency, I'm talking about instances such as when Tae said he missed Jimin, when he had to drag Jk away so he could ride with Jimin, all the things he said about Jimin in his letters, the way he talks about Jimin in his solo Vlives, writing songs inspired by Jimin, when he said Jimin was the one member who had been there for him during his grandmother's passing etc.
Jk expresses his emotional dependency on Jimin through his actions more so than his words- that need he has to constantly be around Jimin. You see this in moments where he subconsciously finds his way to Jimin like the 2018 comeback VLIVE where he and jimin were put in separate teams but after picking their groups mission he headed for Jimin's team instead of his.
You see this in the way he talks about Jimin when Jimin is not around. He would find a way to chip Jimin into any conversation- I dare you; Talk about heaven and it would remind him of Angel Jimin, talk about hell and he will burst out laughing because of Jimin's devil may care attitude that one time.
You see it in moments when he sulks and yap, whines and complains in a submissive tone when he interacts with Jimin at certain times.
Like when he talked about Jimin not waking him up in that interview, or even the New Jersey Live where he whined and pouted like a broke hearted seven year old and Jimin ended up doing- whatever that was to placate him... that VLIVE still makes me uncomfortable to watch to this day.
You just don't see that level of emotional attachment in Taekook. Their interactions are just that- interactions. Frankly, this moment in Soop is the only meaningful conversation I've heard between them in years.
It is this lack of emotional intimacy between Taekook that disqualifies them from being anywhere near real in my books.
While I acknowledge this lack of emotion amongst them, I wouldn't go as far as to say there's been a cataclysmic decline of their bond or friendship. They are still very much friends, just not intimate friends. Skinship wise, sure. But there is no depth to skinship as I've said.
So if skinship isn't what binds them, what does? Personality, for starters. And I know JK saying he and Tae had different personalities sounded confusing to most.
Jk had called Tae his commonality- this Festa was it? He's described Tae in his profiles over years and in recent times as someone he shares the most personality traits with within the group. He is not wrong.
Personally, I see him as very similar to Tae, Suga and RM in different aspects of their personalities.
I think what he meant by his statement about Tae becoming reserved since their trainee days was that he doesn't find Tae relatable.
You can share the same personality trait with people and still not find them relatable. And I contrast this with his interview with Jimin where JM said he and JK were similar in that they are both sleepy heads and hate to lose.
Jk quickly noted that they both were studying Japanese as well. He acknowledged the similarities between him and Jimin here also. Does it mean he found Jimin relatable?
No.
Jimin said after they both acknowledged their similarities that in spite of this Jungkook didn't seem to like him. Clearly. he too like Tae was feeling a barrier in his relationship with JK.
Jk futher admitted he liked Jimin. So if he liked Jimin and had a lot in common with him what was the problem? Relatability. Jk could relate to JM just as he feels he can't relate with Tae now.
In that interview he described how JM was pretty serious minded who liked to focus on one thing at a time- a trait he said was different and as such perhaps he couldn't relate with.
Isn't it the same song he is singing about Tae now? That Tae is reserved and too serious like Jimin was?
The difference between Tae and Jimin is, over the years and especially in recent times the members have talked about how Jimin seems less serious behind camera. Suga even went ahead to give him an award for this- lol, Suga.
Jimin has changed over the years. He's become more goofy and to JK- more relatable.
Have we all not seen Tae gradually close himself off within the group dynamics? How is it hard to see that that could be something that's impacted his dynamics with JK?
I've already mentioned how Tae has been through a lot trauma enough to shut him off emotionally to anyone but Jimin.
Seeing his two besties coupled up too mustn't be easy either. Exclusivity is one of JK's values and love wants. Jimin's love language dictates you treat him exclusively, differently from others- while this is complementary for them, it very much often leaves them with a tendency for to isolate and exclude others- how do you feel watching them from home? Think that but twice Tae and these other members.
That exclusivity Jikook exudes can make anyone emotionally dependent and attached to any one of them feel left out. And for Tae, I see how he would then want JK to treat him as a friend- as he treats Jimin perhaps. He didn't want to feel left out. Similar to how I said Jimin partaked in the culture of the group in early days because he didn't want to feel like the outsider being the last to join the group.
Jikook's exclusivity tendencies have a way to make him feel further isolated and disconnected from the group.
What it then comes down to between Taekook is the difference in their values and their understanding of intimacy. I think.
I have said, JK is one person emotionally closed off within the group. He used to be physically closed of too and took a minute for him to come to terms with even skinship.
These boys may be from the same cultural backgrounds but they have different beliefs and values and upbringing.
I explained how JK had had to suppress himself, his values and his beliefs especially in the early days in order to be the Maknae of the group and how he's been on a journey to slowly yet drastically grow out of that role and image.
I have explained that even though he does not have a problem with Skinship, he believes couples aren't supposed to cross certain boundaries with others which I said is what jeonlous is mostly about.
So when he said during that conversation, he preferred to keep a certain level of distance from people because he felt that level of proximity could end up ruining relationships, I understood perfectly what he meant. I have always suspected and speculated that about him.
No one BangPD script writer-nim put that in his mouth.
Tae is the opposite of JK in that regard. While Jk is emotionally closed off, Tae is emotionally lose and latches on to people quite easily- aka his attachment to Jimin.
He is among the members of BTS who I think lack emotional boundaries in the group.
Being emotionally close to people and receiving that emotional nourishment is one of Tae's love languages as I've explained in the past. And so I smiled when I heard him talk about how he wanted to feel loved by Army.
Tae lowkey has an anxious insecure attachment style brought upon him by no fault of his in my opinion and I've always felt a similarity between his and jimin's attachment styles in that sense- that constant need for reassurance for one.
While I feel Jimin's anxiousness and need for reassurance is often performative and as such is often exaggerated as part of his idol persona- Jimin does not in reality need reassurace of love from his love interest.
He may appear clingy to some and a bit insecure about his looks, but he doesn't trade his looks for love.
His looks I feel are important to him as long as his career goes. And he tries to look a certain way and obsesses about the way he looks because his looks is a means to longevity and fruitfulness of his career.
His love language is more towards wanting certainty and stability and making him feel like he is the only one.
On the other hand, Tae's need for reassurance sits at the core of him. I don't think it is an exaggeration or a persona at all. In my opinion.
His need for reassurance is born out of an innate fear of losing a connection, a fear of not being loved and a fear of losing love- not to psychoanalyze him or anything. It's just theory.
I've said Tae strikes me as a very melancholic person.
Remember when he faked being an Army to see if an Army was a Solo stan who just loved one member or him also as well- that bit was unsettling and uncalled for. Then during his conversation with JK he talked about how he needed that constant reassurance of love from Army- y'all still think he boo-ed up in there? Alright then.
Loneliness is a bitch. And I understand how he would be driven by an emotional void to connect and attach to people. He really was attached to his Grandmother and having a love connection like that yanked away from him without warning, without proper closure can leave a void behind.
So I see often while he craves to connect he often self sabotages that connection- he does this with Jimin at times, boy can he work Jimin's nerves!
It takes a big heart and a lot of patience to love a person of this nature- and there's only one Jimin in that VMinKook dynamics.
Jk is not good at emotions, can barely work his way through his own much less nurture someone with complex emotions such as that of Tae.
Tae has been working through a lot. Trying to be better. Taekook is just a casualty of Jikook...
I keep saying these boys are human and ought to be viewed, thought of and treated as such. If you want to ship them as characters within the Kpop verse then do that. But don't breach the fourth wall and still think of them as fictional beings.
If any ship is real, then their real lives are bound to affect their dynamics, their desires and influence their needs. It's crazy to turn a blind eye to all of that while uWu-ing your ass off at every cute moment edited and shared to you.
Comparing Tae to JK, JK to me barely expresses a need for emotional attachment to anyone. He is similar to Suga in that sense. It's easier to see who he is emotionally attached to and attracted to than to see his overt expressions emotions.
When you look at all seven you see who JK is emotionally attached to based on how he act around and towards that person. He shows, he doesn't tell. In my opinion.
Tae asking JK to treat him as a friend rather than as a hyung thus to me was his way of asking to JK to connect emotionally. That doesn't mean they weren't close. They were, just not as close as Tae wanted to be.
This is what I meant when I said both him and jimin had tried to break down JK's walls in their early dynamics around debut.
Jimin's approach was to breach JK's physical boundaries but in so doing he had accidentally breached Jk's emotional walls as I've explained in previous posts.
I stated how I felt, perhaps, JM coveted that physical connection between Tae and JK at the time he joined BTS, but it's occurring to me Tae equally perhaps coveted Jikooks emotional connection; asking JK to treat him as a friend- as he treats Jimin?
Now I don't know if that conversation was had before Jimin joined BTS or after so I won't push it.
Regardless, it seems JK putting up those emotional walls with him had led to Tar harboring resentments towards JK- typical of people with passive aggressive tendencies.
Sort of explains all those weird TaegiKook dynamics in the early days of Tae trying so hard to do things to make JK jealous- Do y'all see why I disregard anything that happened between all the members before 2016?
I feel because Tae was young at the time, he didn't have the emotional maturity at the time to deal with a situation like that and coupled with his passive aggressive personality, resentment was bound to build up between them.
This resentment showed itself through his passive aggressive attitudes towards JK- Jimin wants to come, JK is stopping him, then that slight head tilt. Oh, you were given a mission to ignore me? I didn't notice, you ignore me off cam anyway followed by that attitude whatever it was.
In turn, I feel JK along the way started to build similar resentments towards Tae too as response to Tae's coldness and I see how to him Tae would be the problem- to him Tae is the one who had changed and grown distant, reserved in their dynamic- unrelatable.
I feel JK's grudge against Tae leading up to Soop however was because he felt his partner in crime had stabbed him in the back- get out of your imagination. That's not what I'm referring to. Lol. I'll explain in a bit.
But yes, this resentment I feel they were both harboring could probably had further complicated their dynamic and got in their way of achieving true intimacy beyond the skinship- when I tell you skinship is not an indication of intimacy.
You could see this in the way they both were very defensive in their conversation. Whatever had happened, JK had extended an olive branch to have Tae to sit and have drinks with him but Tae had brushed it off.
After this, he's shy to approach Jk to ask him to have a meal with him- Where did it all go wrong, they asked- twelve year olds, that's what they are. Lol.
There was a certain degree of lack of vulnerability in the way they expressed themselves with each other especially on JK's part which I feel leads people to conclude that their conversation was somewhat coerced- It wasn't in my opinion.
I have explained when I was talking about their love languages how I feel Tae in general is very headstrong, almost as strong headed as JK which I feel it's one of the things that gets in their way of achieving true intimacy and I feel that is what we were seeing in that moment during conversation.
I've explained intimacy, true intimacy requires a crucification of pride and a sacrifice of ego without which any intimacy would be superficial. I used VMin's dumpling fight as an example, where I said it took 2 days to two weeks for them to resolve their issue because they were both being strong headed.
It took Jimin's vulnerability and a sacrifice of his ego to reach through to Tae and even that took how long? And this is Jimin, the half blood Hufflepuff, president of the kumbaya fanclub we're talking about-
Y'all think Mr. Let it burn, I'll rather be dead than cool is about to let shit go? - Get some education. It's not in his vocabulary. It's not in either of them's vocabulary. Lol.
While I see these two as both unwilling to bow and submit to eachother, I've see them willfully submit emotionally to Jimin. Where they both fail to be vulnerable with eachother they both eagerly let themselves be vulnerable in this way with Jimin.
So it's not as if they are incapable of being vulnerable with eachother. If Tae's narration of his offer of friendship to JK is anything to go by, it seems he at one point was willing to take the steps to build that level of intimacy needed for their friendship to thrive but JK had barred him.
Tae in wanting to be close with JK the way he(Tae) is close with JM spoke volumes about Vmin dynamics as well. It tell me he doesn't see his bond with Jimin as exclusive. Special, but not exclusive- and we know how both Jimin and JK feel about exclusivity.
Which brings me to JK's perception about VMin.
I don't think JK see's Vmin's friendship as problematic. He just see's their lack of emotional boundaries as problematic and so often you see him try to put up boundaries for Jimin in their dynamic.
To Tae emotional connection is important and an indication of intimacy. That's his love language, that's his value. But how is JK going to open himself up like that to Tae when he sees what Tae and JM have as problematic? When he values and believes emotional connection has to be reserved for an intimate partner?
As explained earlier, exclusivity is a huge deal to JK.
He believes somethings ought to be reserved and exclusive to love relationships. He believed it then, he believes it now and he has consistently lived that belief through his actions throughout the years.
And if this is his values, then imagine his frustration at seeing people cross all sorts of boundaries with his man everywhere he turns- its enough to give anyone a complex, seriously.
When Tae explained that JK refusing to treat him casually as a friend was part of the reason they couldn't be as intimate, JK was quick to point out why he made that decision all those years and from the looks of it he ain't changing his mind anytime soon.
Dude literally said- I said what I said.
JK believes to make his intimate relationship special and to protect the sanctity of it, he ought to put up walls not further indulge in and perpetuate the lack of emotional boundaries within the group.
In this regard, Taekook is a casualty of Jikook, nothing personal. I've said, a real relationship involving JK or Jimin within the group is mutually exclusive to any other ship involving those two. As such all those other ships involving those two are bound to be casualties of Jikook.
In as much as BTS have thrived as a group on the lack of boundaries between them, this lack of boundaries was also ruining some of the members' joy especially JK who believes a certain level of boundary is necessary for a healthy relationship- Soop was very much neccessary.
And I see some Jikookers are claiming, Taekook settled their differences and had that conversation perhaps for Jimin's sake? Chileee- it makes sense if you are looking at things in isolation? But...
I mean Jikook have been dating a long time- six years now, for Taekook to be only now considering the effect of their dynamics on Jimin. If Jimin is whom they were concerned about they would have nipped it in the bud a long time ago especially around the time Jimin was having a tough time in his life. In my opinion.
I acknowledge the role Jimin played in bringing those two together and even believe he is the one that influenced them to take the initiatives they both took separately but no. I don't think they did this for Jimin. They did this for themselves first of all and for the sake of the sake of their careers, and the group.
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I know some people have theorized that JK posted this on Weverse after his live because he was eager to do his next live with Jimin- true, but not only that.
The tension in that live was there but it wasn't there because he was uncomfortable with Tae per se. He has had a live with Tae in the past, has filmed with staff around and so Jeon Jungkook really had no excuse now did he?
Then the shade he threw, I shouldn't try to make anything next time- then proceeds to make gimbap with Jimin in their live while cheesing through it.
I feel his statement about making things was a Jab at BigHit. I told you previously how I felt he didn't want to do the live. That neither he nor Tar wanted to do the live hence BigHit's results to coercion. In my opinion.
BigHit at the time, it seems, was making them do these weird PG13 arts and craft thingy during their heavily monitored lives- it was weird as fuck especially for the audience that have grown used their VLives being a way for them to have intimate moments and conversations with BTS- I dipped out of most of those VLives. Deuces.
Homeboy was protesting because he just wanted to, first of all, have a Vlive alone with Jimin because they hadn't had one in a while- he deadass wanted to sit and stare into JM's soul while the rest of us watched on in silent discomfort and miserable loneliness while we thirdwheeled- This man, I swear to God!
But he also wanted to fight for their right to as a group to do whatever they wanted with little control and interference from BigHit- Independence really is recurring theme in JK's dramas. Lol.
After JK posted those rebellious tweets to out BigHit, Tae followed those tweets with a tweet akin to hold your peace followed by the shush emoji.
On its own it doesn't mean much. But read together with JK's post and the background I've given, it takes on a whole new meaning.
This moment to me was one of those evil twin power activation moments. Tae seemed to be with JK on that, in his own passive aggressive manner.
I talked about how social media was one of the tools they use to fight back against BigHit. Especially, by withholding their presence on social media platforms.
The company needs them to be online, interacting with fans and growing their fanbase. I hear some Idols, not BTs, are allegedly forced to appear on VLives even and social media even.
Yet BTS do that pro bono. So when they feel the company is tripping they exercise their rights to remain off the internet.
So imagine my surprise when Tae was suddenly popping up on Weverse, Vlive, YouTube live left right left!
I was surprised not because it was unusual of him, but because I felt that was contrary to the move he had made in support of JK earlier.
Do I think it is probably one of the immediate causes of the heat between Taekook that they needed to address? Probably.
I mean why else would Tae bring up him spending so much time online in his conversation with JK? How is that a way to bond with JK? Unless, perhaps JK had been pissed he did that and so Tae felt he needed to explain why he did that? Don't mind me. I'm delusional- but deadass.
Now a chunk of that conversation was voiced over so we will never know everything about that moment. And I hope, in the future they both talk about this and give us more details about this.
Both Jk and Tae have had issues with BigHit in the past and when they do they aren't afraid to come at BigHit with direct or passive aggressiveness.
Did y'all see ILand? How Tae took a jab at Bang PD over chicken breasts? How in Rookie King he expressed his resentment at BangPD for not knowing his name?
They are both expressive, assertive and less of a pushover in that way, I feel. They will put up the you can force the horse to the river side but can't force it to drink attitude if pushed against their will.
OTHER THINGS I NOTICED IN SOOP
I mentioned in my previous post how Jikook have been asserting themselves against eachother.
By that I meant, JK has been pushing JM to put up boundaries, treat their relationship with the same level of seriousness he does and not act like an ass kisser within the group all the time- bless him.
Jk used to be that guy who tried to please everyone. He would sacrifice his own happiness if that meant the happiness and harmony of the group. He is very Kumbaya in that way.
While this is noble, often he ended up stepping on JK's happiness because sacrificing his happiness is sacrificing Jk's happiness.
Him being the decision maker in their dynamics, that often means he ends up sacrificing JK's happiness without JK's permission.
To JK, JM would always come first. But Jimin is a bit of a people pleaser. He would consider the effect putting JK first would have on the group before placing him first- lately that has changed.
I feel Jk has been pushing him to careless about people's opinions of him and their relationship- please listen to the lyrics of GCF Helsinki to see what I mean especially whenever Jimin comes on the screen for the longest bar.
Just as much as JK has been pushing JM, JM has equally been pushing JK to be mindful of his possessiveness. While I see Jimin as someone who likes to belong, I don't think he wants to be owned.
So you see him pushing Jk to be social, to spend time with others- fix his issues with Tae for example, read books etc.
I hinted at this dynamic when I talked about Jikook shading eachother. Please check it out.
JK's always asserted himself and wanted to assert himself in the group dynamics and he has always expected that of Jimin as well.
It's no surprising then to see Jimin say no to Tae when Tae asked him to go on a car ride with him and Hobi in Soop episode 06. Old Jimin would have run along, no questions asked.
Jikook have changed. Their relationship dynamic has changed, their individual personalities have changed- are changing and they are changing eachother as well.
It explains why to JK Jimin feels more relatable as we've talked about above. They are changing but are also changing for eachother.
Some of these changes are glaringly obvious, others are subtle and easy to miss if you blink.
For example, Vmin's interaction mentioned above. Notice how Jimin is the outdoor kind of guy but in this instance he chose to stay indoors? Outdoors activities are his thing, indoors activities are JK's thing.
Do you see how Jk is influencing him?
He not only chose the indoors, he also chose an indoors activity that had JK written all over. How should I put this, painting, craft, drawing- those are ravenclaw traits not halfbood hufflepuffs' traits. Know what I mean?
True, Jimin loves these activities too but when you think of him traveling all over the world during their vacation- something I said was a cause of misunderstanding between them in August last year, you'd understand what I mean by JK asserting himself against Jimin.
They are compromising, they are negotiating, they are each embracing aspects of their personalities and accommodating it- you call it domesticity, I call it the aftermath of a trail period in Jikook's journey.
There are a lot other observations I made but this is all the length Tumblr can permit. Love Jikook and Support them.
Signed,
GOLDY
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whenimgoodandready · 6 years ago
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Every ship has their episode. Starco with “Blood Moon Ball”, Jarco with “Bon Bon the Birthday Clown”, Ostar with “Cheer Up, Star”, Tomstar with “Club Snubbed”, Tomco with “Friendenemies”, Janstar with “Girl’s Day Out”, Marcapoo with “Running with Scissors” and Kellco with “Kelly’s World”, but we’re missing a ship here, a ship that needs a proper episode to sail on, the right kind of plot to steer and with a good plot to enjoy the ride, that ship is Jantom! Finally! An episode worthy of debunking the trope for “Ships That Pass In The Night” (pulls the boat horn) All aboard!:
*Junkin’ Janna-PrinceThomas Lucitor, the demon boyfriend of Star and heir to the throne of the Underworld is hanging out for the first time in forever with Janna Ordonia, the nightmare fetishist and amateur hypnotist of Echo Creek! The reason being that Star is out on an important meeting with Eclipsa with the MHC and Janna has asked Tom to hang out. Just the two of ‘em, no Star, no Marco, no Pony Head, no Kelly, no nothing! Just Jantom! Sweet!
Minus tagging along on adventures with Star, Marco and the gang, Janna has been “boot sledding” in a giant suit of armor boot in a junkyard while she’s been on Mewni. Janna could’ve called over Marco, or Kelly or even Pony Head to join her, but she chose Tom, why? You’ll know soon enough. Meanwhile, Star and Eclipsa are waiting impatiently for the MHC to arrive so they can have the meeting already. Uh, it’s an emergency! So why the f*** aren’t they there!? Are they being passive-aggressive with them!? They continue to wait while trying not to food poison themselves from Sean’s donuts (after what happened in “Yada Yada Berries”, I could see why Eclipsa would be wary of eating things from others).
Over to Jantom again, Tom was enjoying himself (after getting off his compact to text with Star. Thank you Janna!), but then a crow starts flying over, wait a crow!? Uh oh! Except for Janna, it’s a pest cuz it keeps stealing her boot (and possibly other parts of the giant suit of armor she must’ve used before) and wants Tom to shot it. You know, I’m sure Janna could’ve taken care of that bird herself by makeshifting a sling shot to throw a rock at it or using her hypnosis to put it to sleep, but nooooooooooooooooooo she wanted Tom to use his demon powers to shoot it instead! He refuses as it’s just a harmless bird and is disappointed that it’s the only reason she called him to hang out (besides, he went through character development). “We all have a purpose, Tom”. Well what’s your purpose Janna? Huh!? Did Daron read my reviews and pointed that out to me on why I kept saying what’s Janna’s purpose? 🤔.
Janna gets upset with Tom over it and throws his compact in the boot when he tries to rat her out to Star. The crow takes the boot, wow! Strange crow! Is this how Mewman crows are? But Janna won’t let him have (and Tom won’t “let him have it” either) and clings onto the boot as he flies away with it. The crow then drops the boot and Janna, but Tom swoops in and Superman rescues her. Okay, yeah, that’s a little Jantom tease for the fans, I get it, I get it. There was no moment as Janna points out their prioritizes for the getting their stuff and so they follow the bird. Back with Star, the MHC finally get their a**es in and Star gets into a fight with Rhombulus when he tells her to put away her compact which she refuses (what happened to their friendship back in “Crystal Clear”? Oh wait! I remember now, “Swim Suit” happened (hisses through grind teeth)). They tell Eclipsa that there’s a dark magic force in the Monster Temple they’re sensing and they automatically assume it’s her doing it and want her to stop...............that’s it!? That’s what the “emergency” meeting was for!? Pointing out the obvious! HELLO! Mewni to MHC! Eclipsa always uses dark magic. What’s next!? There’s a hybrid in the house!? Oh wait, THAT’S METEORA! Ugh! How aggravating! Glossaryck, just fire them already, will ya!
Jantom follow the crow to the ruins of Butterfly Castle where again Janna tries to get Tom to just shoot the damn bird already, but he still refuses, so Janna just goes to get the job done herself, but the crow suddenly turns into a huge hammer beaked fiend! Hold up! That crow is magic!? WTF!? This freaks out even Janna! Tom swoops in again and sacrifices his compact and saves Janna (awesome moment there). He finally shoots the f***ing bird, but it only leaves a scar on its eye, so they just do what’s logical.RUN! In the end, Star was glad Tom actually now “has a life”. I knew damn well that was Mina’s crow now she’s up to something and I think that’ll be in “Cornonation” too. Don! Don! Don!
No sparks between the two in this ep, but at least they still worked together and had some fun. I think I now know what Janna’s purpose is now...............................she’s there to make Starco happen! Think about it! In “Out of Business” she made a second “Baby Marco with wheels for hands” for her, in “Curse of the Blood Moon”, she had used hypnosis to get Marco to stop eating nachos to have a fit body for Star and now she’s trying to get Tom to realize he can be happy without Star! Honestly, I read a fan mention it and I think it’s subtly said. Janna seems “Anti-Tomstar” from what I saw, but that’s either cuz Tom wasn’t listening to her on the whole “No Star” rule or she’s not big on fluffy romance. She kept telling Tom to get a life! And she’s right! He needs to get a life! Ever since we first saw him in the show, he’s main character trait was “Get Star back!” and when he got her back, he was “Star minded”! Guy has no other priorities, but Star this and Star that, Star, STAR, STAR! F***ING ENOUGH ALREADY! I’m not saying Tomstar should end (even if it might be foreshadowed), I’m just so glad Janna’s the only one with balls in the show to slap some sense in Tom! (maybe even physically do it too please) I actually like her more now cuz of that! Okay, maybe I’m being too harsh, I mean, Tom said he doesn’t have any friends from “Friendenemies” and cuz he had anger issues, but now that he has some friends like Marco and Janna and learned to control his demons, it still isn’t enough for him to get him to shut up about Star :P. And I guess he did do some things without Star before like get rid of his anger issues (“Demoncism”) and playing video games (“Naysayer”), but it just didn’t seem like it was enough, you know? Janna’s doin’ just fine on her own and doesn’t rely on someone to seek validation and Tom needs to learn that! She’s got friends in Jackie, Marco, Star and she has tons of hobbies so she’ll never be bored. She don’t need no significant other and if she does, least she has life! With the MCH, I don’t know how deep they have those poles up their a**es, but they need to start showing their new queen some respect and not wasting her time with nonsense with the obvious and going through a meeting to explain that. I’m sure it was probably cuz of what happened in “Swim Suit” with Rhombulus and that Eclipsa’s Pro-Monster. For the unknown dark magic force, they said the dark magic wasn’t from Glossaryck or Star, Eclipsa and Meteora, but they still assume they’re aware and behind it. Is it Mina? But she’s in Butterfly Castle! Speak of the devil, I’m tots positive she’ll be in the “Cornonation” ep cuz like I said in the last review, it’s half hour, so we’ll get plenty of action shots from her in her giant knight armor trying to annihilate Eclipsa. Wonder how she’ll be defeated? Mina I mean, not Eclipsa! Lol! Will she be redeemed? Killed off? Taken that steroid spell off her? Who knows?
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babblingblondegenius · 6 years ago
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Felicity Megan Smoak-Queen is the past, present & future HBIC
Whew, that episode was a wild ride.  Caution: episode 7x16 spoilers ahead>>>
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The episode began with Felicity giving birth to her and Oliver’s daughter.  Oliver was by her side, holding her hand, and telling her how much he loved her.  In typical Felicity style, she told him she loved him too but would love him more once the baby was out lol.  Once the baby was out, swaddled, and handed to her parents, Oliver kissed the top of Felicity’s head.  It was such a beautiful moment and Oliver was glowing with joy.  There is only one person who can make him that happy.  I’ll give you three hints:
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Damn, looking at those gifs makes me wonder how they only created one child together.  Oh yeah, the Arrowverse writers suck and Oliver is going to be dead or go missing soon.  Whatever happened, he was not physically present for the rest of the episode but he was certainly there in spirit.  The episode was more focused on Felicity as a mother.  
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The mother to William--Felicity and William didn’t get much time together but she made an impression on him that lasted a lifetime.  Bonding over all things STEM and what it means to love Oliver Queen, William followed in genius stepmother’s footsteps.  Despite the distance between them, he kept the hozen that Felicity gave him and responded to a signal that took him all the way to Lian Yu for her.  William learns in this episode that Felicity (dba City of Emerald Capital) was the angel investor for his company.  She was watching over him the whole time.  
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The mother of Mia--We saw highlights of Mia’s life, starting with her birth, and then it cuts to a young Mia being trained by Nyssa.  That was an awesome surprise.  Felicity may have hid her daughter from the world in an attempt to protect her but she also made damn sure her daughter would be able to protect herself when the time came by having Nyssa give her LOA-level fighting and archery skills.  Of course, I’d much rather have Oliver be there to do this with her (although you know Mia would never get properly trained because Oliver would always let her ‘win’ -- also think of all of times Felicity has barely tapped him and he said ‘ow’ lol).  Exhibit A of our bamf vigilante being a total cupcake for his girl:
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More bruises from her than Deathstroke. ;)  Anyhoo, back to Nyssa.  I love that she is alive in the future and obviously, she and Felicity have put their passive-aggressive animosity aside and forged some type of friendship.  Felicity trusted Nyssa more than she trusted NTA and that is forever a BIG MOOD.  Based on the awkward hug between her and DD, it seems Felicity remains wary of her former teammate.  I am also confused why, after 20 years and knowing RR is still shady af, Felicity would tell him about Mia.  But I have to say, despite my misgivings, the introduction of ‘this is Mia.  These are mine and Oliver’s impeccable genetics’ was accurate, perfect, and exactly how I would expect Felicity to describe their daughter.  Cause look at these impeccable genetics. <3
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The mother of invention--We’ve been watching Felicity create a security system to protect her family since she left witness protection.  It is this system that will become the program known as ‘Archer’- the one used in the future to protect the Glades.  It appears that Archer will be the catalyst to launch Smoak Tech.  We been knew but it is nice to have confirmation.  Except Felicity shouldn’t have based it in Star City.  They don’t deserve her or Oliver.  More on that later.
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The future is bleak without Oliver Queen.  Felicity clearly misses her husband.  She is still wearing her wedding band.  The picture of the mantle of her, Oliver, and baby Mia was the key to opening her secret lair inside the house.  She wore an emerald green mask while undercover.  Wherever Oliver Queen is, he is not far from Felicity’s mind or heart.  
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Yet our Queen continues to fight.  This is one of the many reasons Oliver fell in love with her.  Felicity has a desire to help others, to protect the city, to serve the greater good.  She was the one who wanted to come back to Star City from Ivy Town; heck, she never stopped helping the team while they were away.  Being Overwatch, even before she officially had a codename, was Felicity’s purpose.  
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She will help people through Smoak Tech but Felicity will always want to do more. This is what makes her the perfect life partner for Oliver Queen and the Green Arrow.  So here’s my quibble with the FFs.  We’ve spent seven years evolving Oliver Queen from being on a solo suicide mission to fighting to live and reconciling the two sides of himself to working to achieve a balance between his life under the hood and his life in the light.  Felicity was one of two people who guided him on that journey of self-discovery and was instrumental in Oliver wanting a life outside of the mission.  Oliver himself has said he hoped one day he could hang up the hood.  This man would be perfectly happy to stay at home, cooking for his family and loving on his wife.
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Yet tonight, Felicity sounded like season 1 Oliver.  In order to be a hero, you have put others above all else, including your own family.  Okay, but what happened to finding a balance?  And according to Connor, John and Lyla were not around much.  I just feel like OTA are getting thrown under the bus and the message that the show was built on is getting muddled to create unnecessary drama/tension/angst/gritty backstory? for the future character’s story lines.  I’m aware that a spin-off is imminent and this is not the first time that Arrow had to bend itself into a pretzel to launch another show.  But this time, Arrow is coming to an end.  I don’t want Oliver and Felicity to have spent years sacrificing to save a city that time and time again turned its back on them.  I don’t want Oliver to never get the chance to be with the family he worked so hard to even think he deserved.  I don’t want Felicity to have to hide, constantly living in fear and missing the love of her life.  I don’t want Olicity to be torn apart once again.  
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Yikes, I need a Felicity Smoak pep talk.
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Okay Felicity, I believe that he is going to be okay.  We’ll all be okay.  The writers will fix this clusterf**k of a future and Olicity will raise their family together, as a team.  Always.  They (and we) will get the ending that they (and we!) deserve :)
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emeraldjulez · 6 years ago
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Random Topic: Sleepychat Closing For Good
Sleepychat was the first hypnosis community I got into. I met a bunch of new people and knew the majority of everyone on that chat site for years. It’s unfortunate that they are closing the site down entirely. It honestly upsets me that they are getting rid of it, instead of passing it down to another owner or maybe even passing it back to its original owner, MrMeapify (I mean if he still would want it). It just makes me sad because all of MrMeapify��s hard work to make the site is all going away. Like all that hard work, gone. All for nothing.
“The reasons being, most notably, that it's become more of a hassle for me than any benefits can offset, that I'm losing money by paying for the hosting, logging, and database, and that I'm finally deciding that I have no obligation to keep it running through said hassle and financial loss.“ - Ely (current owner of SC).
Yeah, that’s understandable, the whole money thing. However, there were many bugs on the site and many people left after that and did not support the site as much. Why? Because Ely, the current owner of Sleepychat, did not do anything to fix those bugs. Yeah, he fixed some bugs, but not the major ones. Which made the majority of the supporters leave. Ely tried to make everyone happy by putting out Sleepychat 2.0, because ever since SC started there were jokes about Sleepchat 2.0 but it never came to be until Christmas 2017. However, 2.0 came along with a bunch of bugs because it was never exactly finished. It was originally MrMeapify’s work for SC 2.0, if I remember correctly? (Could be wrong). So when Ely took over SC, he took that idea and made SC 2.0, cool idea and such, but it didn’t go that well due to bugs. Certain bugs were never fixed. 
I mean Ely should have known that taking over a website and being its owner would bring a lot of responsibility. Maybe he did know but obviously, there would be financial difficulties. However, the fact that he did not try to fix anything with SC 2.0 for the year/year and a half it was up was probably Sleepychat’s downfall. 
“I will not be recommending any alternative, as the one I was going to recommend decided to spam ads on Reddit, which I don't agree with.” - Ely
I’m not a frequent Reddit browser but what is so wrong with advertising a new website? I mean I’d get it if it was on a r/sleepychat thing with advertising but if it was just in general on Reddit, what’s wrong with it? This quote is very passive aggressive, it’s hilarious. I know the drama that went down with what he is talking about. Honestly, with how the drama was handled with everyone involved, it was done poorly and very immaturely. This quote leaks into the drama of what happened. It clearly did not need to be stated. I mean to me, it shows how immature and bitter Ely truly is. 
“Call me a horrible human being for not saying sorry, but I no longer feel any attachment to the site or its community, and it's nothing to me but stress now.” - Ely.
Ely is not a horrible human being. Just when he says that he no longer feels attached or interested or invested in the community and that it only brings stress and that’s one of the main reasons why he’s closing SC? It feels selfish, I mean mostly because if he’s not attached or interested in it then why not pass it down to someone else to keep it going? He has had time to think about who he could pass it down to and who would be willing to take care of it. I mean it makes sense that he doesn’t trust anyone to pass it down to but then again if he looked past the drama and actually truly cared about the hypno community, he would have kept SC going and put aside the drama. I probably would have because I put others first rather than putting myself first. I care a lot about people and their happiness comes first to me.
That whole message just shows how much he truly “cared” for the hypno community and his site. He rather would have SC shut down than either pass it down to someone he trusts or put aside the drama that has happened and pass it down to them and move on. Ely is too stubborn and immature to put differences aside and move on. If it truly was a burden on him then he wouldn’t have cared and passed it down to the person he was planning to pass it down to, ignoring the drama that happened between the two. I know the drama that happened, I was there when it happened, so it isn’t like I’m clueless. The drama wasn’t even a big deal, it honestly could have been settled if both parties sat down and talked to each other. That’s why I’m saying that Ely could have set aside the drama and passed it down to the other person. But did he? No, because he has to be arrogant and think that he’s above the other person. Anyways, I just think the whole thing is selfish in my opinion. It’s understandable, where he’s coming from and why he’s shutting it down but I feel like he’s taking himself more so into consideration than the actual community.
The good news that came from the drama? Well, a new site came out from it. It’s like the old SC but obviously has more perks and isn’t buggy. It’s called Dreamychat if you all haven’t heard of it. Emily, the owner of DC, is really nice. She’s an amazing person to talk to :D She’s always willing to help those and is always active so you can always talk to her. The mods are all my friends, except for like one or two I don’t know. But they are very sweet and awesome to talk to. Except for @jonsmisu , he’s a mod there and he is very lame :P lol jk jk <3 I love JonSmisu :P XD he’s my secret hubby, lol jk jk XD I’m glad that there is another site like SC to turn to instead of not knowing where to go specifically. If you haven’t heard of Dreamychat, you guys should check it out. Everyone is friendly there.
I will truly miss Sleepychat and everyone that was on it. Even Ely, even though I didn’t know him on a personal level. I don’t hold grudges and I’m not thinking that Ely is a horrible person, just very immature. Along with the other party from the drama. They both were at fault. Not picking sides. But just analyzed everything and this is what I came up with. I love the mods from SC too, so I hope to keep in touch with them. Anyways, SC was a great site. I’m gonna miss it. It’ll forever be in my heart <3 :D
I personally recommend going to Dreamychat if you all don’t know where else to go after SC closes. I support Dreamychat because it seems more functional and invested in the community... than SC. But anyways, thank you guys :D
If you guys want to read the full message of what Ely wrote for Sleepychat here you go: https://www.sleepychat.com/closure
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