#everytime tobirama opens his mouth during that conversation in the shrine
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Honestly, I am not trying to be inflammatory but the more I think of it, the more I am convinced that the curse of hatred exists, but it's actually Tobirama and all of his students that carry it.
Every time Tobirama or Danzo, in particular, talk about the Uchiha Clan being inherently evil because of this or that, it genuinely sounds to me like they are projecting onto them.
Tobirama: "So the Uchiha Clan loves others deeply, but they can't handle their emotions and turn evil because of it when something bad happens to their loved ones"
Also Tobirama: "The Senju clan bases it's strength/jutsu on love, but that never led to us being evil or us being unable to let our hateful feelings go☝️ because we're so rational"
Also Tobirama unable to let his hate and fear towards the Uchiha Clan go (singling them out from all the other clans) and acting like they are so overcome by their emotions that they can't act reasonable or be trusted. Even though Madara, whose brother was literally killed by Tobirama, acted civil towards him for (probably) multiple years, while Tobirama was setting the foundation to keep the Uchiha isolated and away from any real leadership position.
Tobirama’s disdain never lessened and got past down to the next generation.
#i rewatched sasukes fight with danzo and now I am mad all over again#curse of hatred is the stupidest thing I've ever and people keep using it as justification for the massacre and the treatment of sasuke#it makes me sick#everytime tobirama opens his mouth during that conversation in the shrine#it sounds like he is just accusing the uchiha of things that are true for himself but he just can't amit to himself#so he has to dress it up as some official scientific fact as if he didn't make it up because he is so consumed by his fear and hatred#same with danzo#accusing the uchiha that their coup would have undermined konoha while his actions are undermining and hurting konoha left and right#and everyone lets them get away with it#don't get me started on hiruzen “I want peace but I want take a single diplomatic action towards peace” sarutobi#👉👈i couldn't do anything to stop him uwu👉👈#you are a fucking dictator#but you stick your head in the sand and don't take action because you don't really care and it's your friends committing those crimes#hatred and evilness is fine as long as you and your friends are the ones with it#but god forbid an uchiha isn't happy about getting pushed out of the village they helped create#Even when Tobirama first met Sasuke he immediately looked down on him and profiled him as a scoundrel despite not knowing anything about him#there's others that definitely have better articulated takes on this#I am not good at putting my thoughts in words so sorry if i am a little all over the place and my sentences are a little weirdly written#anti tobirama senju#anti tobirama#anti danzo shimura#anti danzo#anti hiruzen sarutobi#anti hiruzen#anti those other two elders#madara uchiha#pro sasuke uchiha#pro uchiha#pro uchiha clan#anti curse of hatred
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