#everyone praises Seb but Lewis is ALWAYS taking a stand

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….did Sir Lewis Hamilton really just say “I certainly won’t be doing it and I hope Max won’t be doing it” about Max’s community service. He’s out here gunning for a boycott/strike 💀

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"Prior champions like Vettel and Hamilton who didn't take the number it makes Max seem arrogant"

Until 2014 it was literally mandatory for the reigning champion to use the number like nearly every single wdc since 1974 (until '74 it wasn't even mandatory to keep the same number for the entire season, F1 has always been chaotic af. Fittipaldi used number 1 in '75) has used the number with a few exceptions like Nico who retired, Mansell who basically said "fuck this shit I'm out" because he essentially didn't want to be teammates with Prost (Mansell did eventually come back in tragic circumstances, he took Senna's seat after Imola '94) and Prost himself who also retired as reigning champion like Nico.

As for champions who choose to use number 1 post the rule change, Vettel literally chose it. I was not traumatized by 2014 for people to say he never used the number 1. Hamilton did use it '09 after winning in '08, he choose not to change his number when he won his six other championships but he has still used the number in some fp sessions over the years. Nico retired so we don't know if he'd have used it or not (he hasn't spoken about it publicly, I checked and all I could find were articles from right before he announced he was retiring and they're all like oh he's unsure and I'm like oh besties he's sure, he's sure he won't be racing next year).

If Max is arrogant for using it, wouldn't Lewis be too for not using it and breaking tradition? It's a you do you do scenario, no arrogance to be seen from either of them in this regard in my opinion.

(Lewis already has his titles, for the rest of the grid - outside Nando Seb - they don't know if they'll win at all or how many, majority would do the same as Max because the future is uncertain you don't how many times you'll have the right to use that number, everyone wants to be no.1 the reigning wdc at least once)

I’m telling you right now and I’ll stand by this statement…if Charles wins the championship and he uses the number 1 I can’t guarantee you that he will be praised for it.

I remember a Sky commentator (Ant I think) saying Max only chose it cause Lewis didn’t which is a lie as you said. I’ve already seen the difference between the way Max was talked about last season in a championship fight to how Charles is this season and it’s a fucking joke.

Nico would have probably used it, if Daniel won and used it nobody would say anything but cause it’s Max he’s arrogant even tho he’s the least arrogant on that grid, I could name drivers who have won fuck all who have more arrogance and ego than Max does and why, cause he wants to celebrate his (rightful) championship.

I’m seeing what Sky and people are posting about Charles (who I v much like don’t get me wrong) that they never posted about Max…if he wins it he will get zero shit if he rocks up with the number 1 on the car.

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How the hell even Mark Webber who probably kinda sorta concluded his F1 career due to Seb related issues, ended up loving Sebastian Vettel after all those tears, sword fights and bloodshed? And same for Hamilton especially after Baku 2017? He has a way with people and Charles really couldn’t stand a chance with his big heart ready to love and be loved by anyone and everyone.

Seb and Mark are...a whole can of worms, huh. I guess it comes down to them both growing up/maturing and also the fact that...well, Mark walked. Being away from racing and letting everything settle down and getting some much-needed distance before clearing the air certainly helped. With Lewis... Idk, you can tell they’re not best friends or anything, and their lifestyles couldn’t be more different, but they do respect each other and even if things got tense between them sometimes (like in Baku 2017) it never escalated to the degree it did between Mark and Seb or Nico and Lewis. Again, them never being teammates played a huge role in how amicable their relations are, even through the inter-team battles like 2018. I remember back in the Nico days and even later people were desperate to see Seb and Lewis as teammates and imo that would not end well...Which is why Merc would never allow it. Too much hubris and ego. There’d be fireworks and not the good kind. Probably the same with a Max/Lewis lineup. They can afford to like each other precisely because they’re not teammates fighting for the championship. 

Charles is...an interesting case. Because the more you look into it the more you realise that he was acutely aware of Seb way before they ever became teammates. That admiration and respect was always there on his end, before Seb was even aware of who Charles is. Obviously there’s the Academy stuff, Charles testing for Haas/Ferrari in 2016 and 2017. But there are more significant moments too, like Monaco 2017 and Charles being present for Seb’s first - and only - Monaco win with Ferrari; a moment Seb himself considers to be one of the highlights of his Ferrari career. And he was there. A lesser-known moment is Charles watching Seb’s testing stints in Barcelona back in 2018. He takes a photo of Seb on his phone, and there must’ve been a trackside photographer there because someone took a photo of him waving at Seb... and then either printed it out and gifted it to him or something. Anyway, Seb signs the photo during the Monaco 2018 weekend (same weekend where they were sat next to each other during that press conference where Seb answers 2642 questions about Charles and praises him and Charles is preening and biting his lip and gazing at Seb and honestly the whole thing is absolutely obscene, I highly recommend it) with a note that reads, To Charles, sorry I didn’t see you mate - Seb. Now flashforward to 2020 and them swapping helmets and Seb writing what he wrote. They’ve been on a whole journey, they’ve had a whole (very satisfying imo) narrative arc and I think about it every day. 

Anyway what I’m trying to say is... Charles has been fond of Seb since Day 1. Before Day 1, even. Most of the growth came from Seb’s side, I think - he went from not being aware of this kid, to being vaguely aware of his talent and ability, to begrudgingly watching him replace his former teammate and close friend, to developing a genuine fondness for him. 

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