#eurylochus pass me the torch

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He's trying his hardest..

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(Also Dementia really can’t remember, it’s in his name)

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Hi! You're really cool, and the things you draw give so much happiness, I wanna give you this fanart of your AU :D

For someone who drinks gallons of alcohol Dyonysus

Dionysius

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Also not sure if they're floating on an evaporated wine cloud or magic or both but it just happened

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hello!

I decided to go around and draw my favorite character design from my favorite artist!

Your Dionysus is my favorite Dionysus design ever! so I drew him :]

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I was rewatching the animation the other day for Scylla (EPIC the Musical Thunder Saga) and realized something

Did anyone else notice that Eurylochus had a torch?

HE HAD A TORCH

I had watched the trailer and it didn’t hit me until then and I realized, why didn’t he die then?

But the animation is INCREDIBLE!!!

He had passed off the torch to someone else when he’d “saved” him, therefore carving his fate onto him. That’s when he realized what exactly Odysseus was playing at.

Perhaps this was the true set up for Mutiny.

Maybe it wasn’t about the fact that Odysseus was willing to sacrifice six of their men.

Maybe it was just because Odysseus was willing to sacrifice him.

After everything they’d gone through.

And right after Eurylochus came clean about having been the one to open the wind bag. Odysseus didn’t respond more than with the command to light up six torches. Ensuring that Eurylochus would have one of those torches.

It wasn’t about six men.

It was about them.

[cowboys-tshot]

I keep seeing people call Eurylochus a hypocrite, and while I kinda agree, I also kinda disagree. Hear me out.

So, people's main thing with Eury is that he gets mad at Odysseus for sacrificing six men to Scylla, but he doomed all of the crew by opening the wind bag, and wanted to abandon 22 men-turned-pigs on Circe's island. (For anyone wondering where I'm getting that number, it's from The Odyssey).

But these events aren't really the same, or comparable. Let's take them one by one. (This is gonna be a long one, so I'll cut the post here for the sake of your timelines)

The wind bag. I fully understand why people are pissed at Eurylochus for doing this, and I am too. But you have to remember that he did not do this out of malicious intent. He did not know this would end in the eventual deaths of the entire crew. Even though Eurylochus was warned about the storm being inside the bag, none of them knew it would take them right to the Laestrygonians. He had no idea Poseidon was pissed off at Odysseus for blinding Polyphemus. It was a stupid decision, certainly, but the following events were not intentional on his part.

Circe's island. Eurylochus had no reason to believe there was any way of rescuing those 22 men. Circe's a goddess/witch. What the fuck are two human dudes gonna do about that? Odysseus didn't even know what he was going to do. He would not have had any solution if not for Hermes, which is not something Eurylochus could've predicted. It's pretty reasonable for him to think that those men were a lost cause.

Scylla. So far, all of the deaths have been "accidental:" 14 from Polyphemus, 543 from Poseidon/Laestrygonians, and 1 from Circe (RIP Elpenor). I am not attributing the 543 deaths to Eurylochus for the reasons detailed above. No one knew these deaths would happen. They were all sudden/unexpected. Let's take these next sixth deaths moment-by-moment:

Odysseus redirects the ship, using directions that no one else knew (Odysseus was reading the siren's lips, but everyone else was too busy catching the other sirens, and all of them had beeswax in their ears). Odysseus tells Eurylochus to light six torches.

One by one, Eurylochus watches every man that he handed a torch get brutally eaten. He himself is almost eaten, but he passes his torch off to someone else before he notices the correlation. He only realizes what's happening as the sixth man is about to die, and Eurylochus is too late to save him.

Odysseus won't even gaze at the blood left behind. But it's all Eurylochus can look at.

These deaths were planned. Odysseus knew what he was bringing his men into, and not only did he keep it from them, he sacrificed his men that didn't even know what was happening. And Eurylochus likely feels part of the blame, having been the one to light the torches, even if he didn't know the consequences of it.

Eurylochus has a right to be upset, to be angry. These are the first deaths that could have been prevented, because Odysseus could've simply not taken his men through Scylla's territory. But that's the only way to get home. Odysseus sees it as a necessary sacrifice, but Eurylochus sees it as needless. Because at this point, Eurylochus has given up hope that they'll ever get home. What is the point of sacrificing these men for a goal we will never achieve?

This is not a situation where one person is at fault. Odysseus and Eurylochus are both to blame. Like Scylla says, "There is no price we won't pay." Odysseus himself says, "You know you'd have done the same." People do stupid, dangerous, bad shit to survive. Odysseus sacrifices his men. Eurylochus still wants to live, he just doesn't see the point in trying to return to Ithaca. That's why he kills Helios's cattle. He is starving and he wants to live, even though he knows the consequences.

The whole point of all this is that people will do awful and/or stupid things to survive. Not just Odysseus.

[betaray-jones]

So what would have happened if Polites had survived until Scylla?

If we assume that his survival wouldn't have changed anything until that point here's what I think are the potential options.

Continue reading at your own risk. Be aware that it's a tragedy.

So I don't think it would have changed anything at all.

For me there are three potential things that could have happened:

1. Polites dies to Scylla

Eurylochus almost certainly would have given a torch to Polites as one of the people he trusts so unless Odysseus intervenes he would sacrifice Polites in order to get home.

2. Polites dies during the mutiny

Odysseus would of course be able to save Polites from Scylla by making up some reason for him to pass the torch on. If Odysseus does interfere that makes his sacrifice even more obvious and would add the level that he would be willing to sacrifice some but not all members which would be a further knife in the back especially for Eurylochus. So the mutiny would definitely still happen. The big question would then be which side Polites would fall on. Does he stand with his best friend knowing the length he is willing to go for? That he just bought Polites live using a victim that Polites himself chose by passing on the torch? Or does he stand with the crew despite the threat against the life of his oldest friend? Does he try to stop it despite knowing that the loss of trust in Odysseus on the side of the crew is absolute?

Either way he runs a real risk of getting caught in the crossfire getting wounded or potentially even losing his life.

3. He dies to Zeus

At the end of the day it doesn't matter. Even if he does stand with Odysseus during the mutiny, stays true to him through it all and puts all his trust into him if Odysseus is asked to choose between the crew and his family the choice is clear and Polites even faultless and blameless dies by way of lightning bolt.

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I just had a thought.

What if “Scylla” is from Scylla’s perspective? Think about it. We hear Scylla singing in the beginning, but neither Odysseus nor the rest of the crew reacts. Because she’s watching them, they’re sailing through her lair.

“You know that we are the same.” … “You hide a reason for shame.” She’s observing Odysseus, seeing that he’s the leader, that he knows what’s up, and that he’s willing to make sacrifices.

“Leaving them feeling betrayed, breaking the bonds that you made,” … “There is no price we won’t pay.” She does horrible things to live, snatching men from passing ships and consuming them. “We both know what it takes to survive.” She had to cross lines and learn how to survive, and she recognizes the need for the same in Odysseus.

“We only care for ourselves.” She recognizes that all that matters is their own—for Scylla, that’s herself, and for Odysseus, that’s his family.

Here, the music recedes a bit, and Scylla sings the line differently than the others. She heard Odysseus give the order to light six torches, and what she’s only been assuming thus far is confirmed. “We’re lonely demons from hell.” Until this point, Scylla only sang in one voice, with one head, showing a human-like appearance. But now she sings in several voices with all her heads. She reflects what Odysseus did by giving that order, showing who she is “Deep down”—a monster—and bringing it to the surface.

As indicated by Eurylochus’s line, “Captain. Something approaches,” she starts approaching the ships. Before, no one noticed her; she observed unseen, hence why no one reacted to her singing. She then greets Odysseus almost politely, as one would a peer or an equal. “Hello.”

Odysseus shouts at the crew to “Row for your lives!” Scylla pursues, claiming the sacrifices one by one, as can be heard throughout her verse. She sees that Odysseus is running, failing to completely be the monster that he is. So, while she feasts, she tells him what it means to be a monster, but also gives him advice on how to live as a monster, how to live with himself.

“Drown in your sorrow and fears. Choke on your blood and your tears. Bleed ‘til you’ve run out of years.” Essentially, she’s saying “Go ahead, cry about it.” She says those things rhetorically, presenting them as options neither of them actually have, because “We must do what it takes to survive.” As monsters, they must survive. Giving up is not an option.

“Give up your honor and faith.” She stopped caring about right and wrong. She sees that Odysseus is a soldier with strong moral values, and that he must do the same and abandon those values. “Live out your life as a wraith.” Life is hardly worth living anymore, for her. But she’s come too far to simply let herself die. So she’s become an empty husk of herself, surviving for the sake of it. Odysseus will inevitably need to do the same. “Die in the blood where you bathe.” A reference to her transformation into her current state. The old Scylla died in that moment, leaving only the monster. War is sometimes called a “bloodbath”, and Scylla suggests that Odysseus has already killed so many that his journey could be considered one. He must undergo a similar transformation, letting the old Odysseus die (which he has not completely done yet) and embracing the new monster. She then reinforces the reason for doing these things: “We must do what it takes to survive.”

Finally, she talks to Odysseus directly. “We are the same you and, I.” Odysseus responds, harmonizing at “I”, meaning he can hear her. He can’t bear to admit what he is, since he still hasn’t fully become the monster he declared himself to be, which is why he doesn’t harmonize for the entire line.

I am such a nerd for this musical. Still, I don’t get everything right. Feel free to add anything or correct me in the comments.

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Some other stuff that happens in the Lonely wolf AU (might change if I get better ideas)

Polites stays kneeled next to Odysseus' body, frozen in place, while the club keeps going down (Survive)

Athena screams at Polites (My goodbye)

Eurylochus becomes the new captain

Polites blames himself for Odysseus' death

Polites begs Poseidon for mercy (it doesn't work) Edit: I just got an idea that it could be something like "Please, Poseidon, we didn't mean to offend you and we apologize for hurting your son, isn't there anything else we could offer you instead of our lives?" And Poseidon just says no (Ruthlessness)

Wouldn't you like stays pretty much the same

Dead Odysseus appears (The Underworld)

Polites declares he will do anything to get the crew home (Monster)

Either both Siren Odysseus and Siren Eurylochus or just Siren Odysseus (Suffering)

Polites got all his mythology knowledge from Odysseus so he doesn't know everything, (example: he knows about the sirens but not Scylla) (Suffering/Different Beast, Scylla)

Not really knowing what they're up against, they try fighting Scylla, but once it starts going badly Polites decides to sacrifice himself to save the others (imagine him standing there, holding the only lit torch on the ship) (Scylla)

Eurylochus pulls him away, Scylla eats the arm holding the torch, Polites passes out from blood loss while Eurylochus is screaming "What were you thinking?!" and similar at him (Scylla, Mutiny)

Eurylochus tries to convince Polites to kill the cows and have one last meal together, Polites begs him to reconsider (Mutiny)

Polites begs Zeus to spare the crew and kill him instead, but Zeus refuses (Thunderbringer)

When Polites wakes up on Calypso's island, it truly sinks in that Eurylochus is gone. She holds him while he screams (Love in paradise)

With the crew dead, Polites loses his drive to get home (Love in Paradise)

Polites and Calypso develop an unhealthy attachment to one another (Love in paradise)

Unlike Odysseus' "All I hear are screams", Polites sees his dead comrades, watching him in silence

Athena decides that her best chance to get rid of the suitors is to find someone from Odysseus' crew that survived (We'll be fine, Love in Paradise)

The ledge scene still happens but it's a bit different (Love in Paradise)

Polites agrees to go back to Ithaca only after Hermes tells him about the suitors (Not sorry for loving you)

He gives Calypso his red headband so she can remember him (Not sorry for loving you)

Hermes gives him a blue headband (Dangerous)

Polites tries to convince Poseidon to let things go (it doesn't work pt.2) (Get in the water)

Polites stabs Poseidon until his arms go numb (might also throw some ugly crying in there) (Six-hundred strike)

Polites doesn't attempt the challenge both because he knows he can't pass (Growing up with Odysseus, I imagine he learned how to string his bow but can't shoot through the axes) and out of respect for Odysseus (The challenge)

Polites decapitates Antinous (Hold them Down)

Telemachus mistakes Polites for Odysseus (I can't help but wonder)

Polites delivers the news of Odysseus' death to Penelope and apologises in tears (Would you fall in love with me again)

Polites tells Penelope he's going to leave, insisting that there's nothing left for him in Ithaca and that he doesn't want her and Telemachus to be bothered by his presence while they're grieving (Would you fall in love with me again)

Penelope, not wanting to lose the only other person that could know how she feels and having a feeling that by "leaving" Polites doesn't mean moving away, asks him to mentor Telemachus. Polites accepts (insert very touching "You are wanted and you are needed here" scene) (Would you fall in love with me again)

Polites tells Telemachus stories about Odysseus and Eurylochus (future)

Polites starts learning how to play the lyre (future)

Polites has a garden with six-hundred stones, one for every comrade he lost and some flowers for Calypso (future)

Polites starts wearing a purple headband (future)

Polites and Penelope sometimes sit together in silence (future)

Polites doesn't know why he keeps living, he just does. With time, it gets a bit easier, but he still struggles finding purpose (future)

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Every saga in a mf78 nutshell (pt 6)

Warning: this contains mentions of blood and some gore.

pt 1, Pt 2, pt 3, pt 4, pt 5, pt 6, pt 7, pt 8, pt 9

*SUFFERING*

(Odysseus and his crew are out of the underworld, and are now on water again)

???: Yoohoo!

Odysseus: Wha-?

Penelope?: My daring adorable smoking cute husband! I miss youuuu!

Odysseus: ...

Odysseus: My loving glorious wife! Oh I miss you too!

Penelope?: You know I can't stand not seeing you for a while! Come into the water! And give me your loving kisses!

Odysseus: I would my love! But alas, I am scared of getting in the water to see your precious face..

Eurylochus, whispering to the other crew members: I don't know what's weirder, he's flirting with a siren or the fact this is too strange to look at..

Penelope?: But baaabe! I'll make sure your safe! Me and our beautiful daughter are waiting for you!

Odysseus: I would precious, but I'd be trying to float the entire time, I feel much safer up here!

Penelope?: Pleeeeease? :)

Odysseus: ....How can I not resit that charm? But, could you answer something for me?

Penelope?: Yes!

Odysseus: Alright. Imagine that I'm on the run from the terrifying god Poseidon, and he traps us with waves and storms to make sure we don't get home..

Penelope?: Oh thats horrible! :(

Odysseus: Oh it is! But answer me this, which way can I go to get home?

Penelope?: That's simple! Just go through the lair of scylla! He'd never go there...

Odysseus: ....LAIR of scylla?

Penelope?: Mhm!

Odysseus: It has a cost though...

Penelope?: You did ask, so here's your answer! Now come in the water and play with me! <33

Odysseus: *insert hair flick* Aww, but you do know I'm too shy about getting in the water. Why don't you come up here instead and we'll jump at the same time so I feel safe!

Eurylochus silently: LET THIS BE OVER PLEASEEEE-

Penelope?: You can do it dear! I'll catch you when you get down here! It'll be quick as possible!

Odysseus: ..fine, but only this once! *he slowly goes over to-*

*DIFFERENT BEAST*

(HITS THE SIREN IN THE FUCKIN CHEST)

Siren: OW, WHAT THE HELL?!

Odysseus: Nice try, but you're not fooling me that easily. One, I'm not scared of the water. Two, I don't even have a daughter!

Siren: ...crap.

Odysseus: We also kidnap your friends too.

Siren: HUH?!

Odysseus: We also filled our ears with beeswax so your kept being my squinting my eyes! Now I know how to get home thanks to you!

The crew: WHOOOOOHOOO!

Siren: Wait! Just- just please spare us, and won't do anything bad ever again!

Odysseus: You're just gonna go after more sailors if I do. We're cutting off your tails and letting you all drown!

Sirens: NOOOOOO!

*SCYLLA*

Odysseus: Alright guys, we get through this lair nice and carefully, then we will finally get home..

Eurylochus: ...FUCK IT. CAPTAIN, I CANT HOLD THIS IN ANYMORE BUT I WAS THE ONE WHO OPENED THE WINDBAG WHILE YOU WERE ASLEEP!

Odysseus: *Insert slow turning around* YOU DID FUCKING WHAT?!

Eurylochus: I'm sorry, it was all fast and all of a sudden! Forgive me please!

Odysseus: ...................go and light up six torches.

Eurylochus: Uh, alright..

*Eurylochus lights up six torches and hands them to six of the crew*

Eurylochus: ....wait, I see something in the distance. It's coming toward us..

Scylla : HELLO. >:)

Odysseus: Oh shit- EVERYONE ROW FOR YOUR LIVES!

Scylla: ITS FUCKING DINNER TIME!

*scylla's other heads start going after six of the crew, eating their bodies as blood escape from their mouths. After the gore and horror, the crew make it out of the lair, Odysseus is looking up, not turning around*

*MUTINY*

Eurylochus: Okay, what the fuck was that?! You just used our six friends to be killed? We passed through the cyclops, and gods because you had a plan in mind!

Odysseus: ....

Eurylochus: And what did we do when we saw that monster? We fucking ran! Do you miss your wife that bad?! Are you crazy or what?! .......SPEAK!

Odysseus: I CAN'T AND I WONT.

Eurylochus: *silent is upon him*

Eurylochus: Very well..

*He pulls out his sword, odysseus from this also takes out his*

Odysseus: Don't you know what you're doing right now? You'd do it to y'know!

Eurylochus: Absolutely, and you have betrayed us all, so PAY THE PRICE!

*the two fight like it was a star wars saberfight for a few minutes. Eurylochus gets pushed to the ground as Odysseus has him down*

Odysseus: If I'm paying the price, then you're going down FIRST-!

Perimedes: *Stabs Odysseus in the stomach a bit* NO.

Odysseus: ACK....WHY'D YOU DO THAT?

Perimedes: Im sorry, but you're out of time Captain, we won't take this suffering no more.

Crew: Fuck you captain!

*Before odysseus could speak, Eurylochus has knocks him out*

*a few hours later*

Odysseus: ...my head....am I tied up? Ugh..where are we now?

Eurylochus: Oh, you're awake. We just found an island filled with cows. They have enough meat for all of us!

Odysseus: Cows? What do you me- Oh crap.

Odysseus: *slowly turns to Eurylochus* Don't tell me you're going to kill one, are you?

Eurylochus: Uh, yeah I am going to! We're never gonna make it home y'know!

Odysseus: You don't know that's true, besides it's the sun god's cows! Who knows what would happen!

Eurylochus: .....I cant suffer like this anymore ody, after all I am just a man.

Odysseus: EURYLOCHUS WAIT-!

Eurylochus: *Stabs the cattle in the throat*

*thunder can be heard as the clouds get darker*

Odysseus: YOU SCREWED US ALL IDIOT!

Eurylochus: ....captain?

Odysseus: *unties himself* EVERYONE GET BACK ON THE SHIP, GET AN OAR AND ROW AS FAST AS YOU CAN! NOW! BEFORE WE'RE DOOMED!

*All the crew get onto the ship and grab and oar, they row faster, and faster...until they saw thunder appear in front of them*

Odysseus: Crap....

*THUNDER BRINGER*

Zeus: *He appears from the thunder, he takes a step forward*

Zeus: Wellll odysseus, it seems that your crew has become total dumbasses! So I'm giving you a small deal.

Odysseus: ...a-and what's that?

Zeus: You get to choose who gets to die from the thundering bringer of death! Your crew, or just you. That's all you have..

Odysseus: But...I don't want to..

Zeus: Choose..

Odysseus: ...

Penelope..(thats totally not zeus): Ody...

Odysseus: ....penelope?

Penelope...: Please come home...ditch your crew and come to your loving family..

*"Penelope" kisses odysseus on the forehead as she fades away. Odysseus turns to Eurylochus*

Eurylochus: Ody...?

Odysseus: I gotta see her Eury..

Eurylochus: But we'll die from this!

Odysseus: Sorry...also why do you say that when you and the crew practically caused me trou-

*Thunder has been struck on the crew. And odysseus is out of sight...for now.*

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Haunted Thunder pt 1

WARNING THUNDER SAGA SPOILERS CANNON BLOOD AND DEATH

Time didn't work as it used to and Polites was left to float around aimlessly in the bleak underworld.He faintly remembers seeing Odysseus but already it was fading from his mind, how long has he been here? Minutes? Months? Years? He has no idea.

He is jolted out of his endless wandering and finds himself on a boat with…Odysseus?! Polites shakes himself out of his shock before rushing to hug his friend only to find himself unable to touch him only passing through him. He tries again to grab Odysseus’s arm and again he passes through his friend.

“Odysseus!” Nobody hears him though and as Polites sinks to the deck he hears singing coming from the ocean. Odysseus starts responding to a voice..wait it can't be possible. Penelope has no way of being out at sea like this so what? The answer hits him hard ...no please don't be sirens!

All Polites can focus on is stopping Odysseus from answering the siren's call. Any attempt is ignored until Odysseus raises his bow and…shoots at the siren? Polites breathes a sigh of relief as Odysseus reveals he had known all along about the sirens. The sirens had been caught and Polites couldn't help but smile.

His friend always has a plan and this time was no exception. The sirens call for mercy and Polites waits for Odysseus to convince the sirens to leave and not bother them only to freeze at the order shouted to the wind.

“Cut off their tails and throw them back in the water. Let them all drown.” Polites just stands there in shock before flinching as the crew obeys the order. Blood and screams fill the air. He slumps to the deck and sees Odysseus, cold and uncaring as he watches the sirens be thrown back into the sea before sailing on leaving behind a sea of blood and bodies.Polites feels sick to his stomach.

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Everything fades away revealing another scene. They seem to be sailing through a dark cave and a haunting tune fills the air leaving the entire crew on edge.Odysseus orders for 6 torches to be lit and passed out to crewmembers.

Polites tenses as six monstrous heads centering around a terrifying body emerge from the inky depths of the cave. He rushes towards someone holding a torch unaware of the monster behind him wishing desperately to save them. It was a meaningless effort as he passed through them only able to watch as blood splatters the deck and soon Polites screams mix in with the screams of the crew being picked off and eaten.

One of the feathers from Julien’s ankle wings, a broken claw necklace from Nox, a scrap of Charis’s scarf.

Everything is soaked in blood as Polites sobs and screams at all the death. He knows the names of everyone that was eaten.

Julien who always put up an unbothered and mischievous front to hide his fear of hurting people he cared about.

Nox who often used his silent footsteps and cat eyes to scare the crew.

Charis who loves to sew as a way to be close to his dead mom.

Lykos who only wanted to explore the world outside of the forest they grew up in.

Almi the quarter water nymph who gifts any scales he sheds to people he trusts and loved swimming with dolphins.

Therme who welcomes hugs and cuddles using his above average temperature to keep everyone warm with a smile.

Huedo with his calming aura letting crew members sleep in his room to keep nightmares away. They are all dead now, life ended brutally and abruptly. Polites throws up as he sobs and grieves.

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Polites is pulled out of his grief by Eurylochus’s voice.

“Please tell me you didn't know that would happen. Look me in the eyes Captain and tell me you didn't just sacrifice 6 men!” Polites stared at Eurylochus in shock. How could he ever think that about Odysseus he would NEVER. But the silence drags on

“SAY SOMETHING!” Eurylochus was breathing hard and Odysseus sharply turns to face him

“I CANT.” Polites stares at Odysseus in disbelief. Now that he thinks about it Odysseus had not reacted at all to the men being eaten almost like….like he had expected it…

Polites covers his mouth as his eyes tear up, feeling sick again. Odysseus didn't actually sacrifice 6 of the crew right? He watches Eurylochus face harden

“then you leave me no choice.” Eurylochus draws out the giant sword from his back and faces Odysseus.

“Please brother don't make me fight you!” Odysseus is panicking but as Eurylochus charges he pulls out his own sword to block with gritted teeth. Polites feels himself start shaking as he watches the fight.

What could have happened after he had died?! How could this happen?! Eurylochus is knocked down and Odysseus raises his sword for the final strike

“I won't let you get in my way!” Before he can deal the final blow he starts coughing up blood and he turns and sees that another crew member had stabbed him in the back with tearful eyes. Odysseus’s eyes fill with pain both emotional and physical

“My brothers…why..” He falls forward landing on the deck with a thud. Polites cries out and stumbles over to his fallen friend. Once again his hands phase through Odysseus and he sobs, unable to do anything to help.

Polites watches them patch up Odysseus before tying him to the mast. Polites stares blankly into the distance wondering how everything could have gone so wrong.

Part 2 here

[annoyingann]

Crossover publication continues

Part 1, part 2, part 3 (you are here), part 4, part 5, part 6

"I no longer dream, only nightmares of those who've died" (song "the underworld" – epic the musical)

.. but in the world of the dead, Odysseus meets his warriors again. After going through whole crowds of dead comrades, the team finds the prophet.

"I see a man who gets to make it home alive! But it's no longer you..." (song "prophet" – epic the musical)

to your attention, the author of the characters in the role of their prophet! I think Darqx can definitely know their fate! XD

TW: blood and violence↓

(tr.rus) Izm: "we've come a long way! tell me, prophet, how can we get back home?... What the fuck do you mean we won't return."

The prophet tells Odysseus that his return home will not go as he would like. After betrayals and losses, the person who will return home will be completely different. Enraged by this news, Odysseus decides to forget about pity and "knock out" the way home

After visiting the world of the dead, the upset heroes encounter the Sirens on their journey. They try to charm and drown the entire team by turning into people they care about.

"We won't take more suffering from you." (Song "suffering" – epic the musical)

Odysseus and his crew trick each other into telling them how to get home without meeting Poseidon. The Sirens recommend swimming through Scylla's cave, and then try to drag the warriors into the water... but Odysseus deals with them and continues on his way.

Odysseus and his remaining warriors set off for Scylla's lair. And so, swimming up to the cave, Eurylochus decides to confess the terrible secret that he was so afraid to reveal. It was he who was the thief who released the storm from the bag. But surprisingly, Odysseus hardly reacts to this confession. He only asks his friend to light a torch and hold it while they pass through the dark cave.

actually there are a couple more sketches attached at this moment, but I have too many pictures and not all of them logically fit into this content flow, because I'M TRYING TO POST EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME

[ghostofmyth]

Ermmmmm, chat I think I just unlocked some hidden meanings in Epic: the musical's song 'No Longer You"? And It reveals what already happened in the Thunder saga and what's going to happen in future saga's like 'Vengeance' and 'Ithaca'-

idk if it was intentional or not, but Mr.Jalapeño had REALLY outdone himself on this one 👍

Ok so there's a lot so let me break it down:

I was trying to figure out the chorus at the end of 'No Longer You' when I realized some things that are happening in the song.

The prophet is literally telling us what is going to happen (Thunder + Vengeance + Ithaca saga's), the chorus in the background at the end is giving us hints of when these events will happen in future songs, and the prophet is directly telling Odysseus that he will make it home and what is going to happen when he gets home.

1) Now most of the prophet's lines are directly referencing to the Thunder saga, that much is very obvious. Let me go through each one to show you.

"I see a song of past romance"

This line is referencing to the siren songs 'Suffering' and (maybe?) 'Different Beast', because the siren pretending to be Penelope is trying to lure Odysseus (and his men) into the water by singing, but since Odysseus and the crew had wax in their ears they were able to resiste the song and thus Odysseus commands her and the rest of the sirens to be killed right after he gets his needed information.

"I see the sacrifice of man"

This line is referencing to the third song 'Scylla', where Odysseus tells Eurylochus to light up six torches after he tells Odysseus that he was the one who had opened the bag, the fact that the 'man' is singular and not plural speaks volumes, that means that Eurylochus was going to be the sacrifice to Scylla but instead he passed around the torches, sacrificing six other men to Scylla unintentionally. Odysseus was, either way, ready to sacrifice his crew.

"I see portrayals of betrayal and a brothers final stand"

This line is referencing to the first half of 'Mutiny' and here's why. Eurylochus feels so betrayed by Odysseus because he gave up six of their men to Scylla that he decides to fight him to the death, Odysseus loses and almost dies while fighting Eurylochus (the two called each other brothers in multiple past songs, including this one), that is when the crew fully sides with Eurylochus, betraying their original captain for another, if not worse, captain. Also to mention it was Eurylochus that betrayed Odysseus first because he was the one that opened the bag that set them off course from Ithaca and right towards Poseidon.

"I see you on the brink of death"

This line is referencing to the second half of 'Mutiny', Odysseus almost dies but since he was healed by Eurylochus he lives. That's when things start to go down hill.

"I see you draw your final breath"

Now this line would be referencing to the very end of 'Thunder Bringer', where (as seen in a trailer to the Thunder saga) Odysseus is drowning after Zeus strikes a lightening bolt at the ship, thus killing everyone except for him.

"I see a man who gets to make it home alive, but it's no longer you."

Now the very last line has nothing to do with the Thunder saga. It has more connection with the 'Vengeance' and 'Ithaca' sagas (not the Wisdom saga though, that one is Athena trying to convince the other god's to free his dumb self from Calypso's island). All that we know from this line is that he is alive, he is going home, and that he is the monster rawr rawr rawr. (Also doesn't Scylla say that she and him were alike? Monster era fr 🦖)

2) Now to the chorus part, I can't really hear very well so I can't tell what have of it is saying after lighting bolt, but I do have a good theory on what it could be telling us.

At the very end, while the prophet is retelling his prophecy thing, we hear the chorus, which is telling us what events are going to happen in songs.

"I see you on the brink of death" is connected to the 'Siren song' and 'Scylla throat' part. In the first three songs of the Thunder saga, Odysseus is facing murderous monsters like sirens and Scylla who are actively trying to kill him and his crew. The monsters could be shown as the brink of death because of how dangerous both are.

"I see you draw your final breath" has the 'Mutiny' and 'Lightning Bolt' part of the chorus, the last two songs in the Thunder saga happen to have Odysseus draw his final breath twice, first in "Mutiny" while fighting with Eurylochus and second while he is drowning and passes out at the end of "Thunder Bringer" (as seen in the trailer).

It seems the lyrics are what is going to happen to Odysseus and the chorus is what songs its going to happen in. That's why we hear more than one word during the last lines "I see a man who gets to make it home alive, but it's no longer you". It's multiple song names that are going show the aftermath of Thunder saga through the not yet released saga's.

3) Now the very last one is a doozy so bare with me here-

In the beginning/middle of "No Longer You', after the prophet tell's Odysseus his future, Odysseus says,

"This can't be, we suffered and sailed through the toughest of hell's now you tell us our efforts for nothing?!"

You can tell in these lines that Odysseus is at the point of giving up, he thinks he might never make it home after hearing the prophets words. But the prophet continues.

"I see your palace covered in red, faces of men who have long believed your dead"

This line could be a reference to either the Vengeance saga or Ithaca saga, but what is happening is that the all the suitors are killed, hence the covered in red part.

"I see your wife with a man who is hunting, a man with a trail of bodies."

Again, could be referencing to either the Vengeance or Ithaca saga. But the prophet is saying that Penelope is with the man who hunted down and killed all the suitors, leaving a trail of bodies in his wake, and that they are reunited/are together.

Oh course, Odysseus doesn't understand what he is talking about so he asks "WHO", who is with Penelope? But the prophet DOES tell him who the mysterious man with blood on his hands is, who the man that Penelope is with. Multiple times in fact.

When the prophet repeats himself he is emphasizing his words. "I see you" is sung more stronger than the last time and at the end "I see a man who gets to make it home alive, but it's no longer you" the last word is sung more slower. The prophet is telling Odysseus that it's him "You".

Basically to sum it up, when Odysseus says "our efforts for nothing", he thinks that "om-gods this was worthless I'm never going to make it home". The prophet is like "Uh what, you do make it home it says right here?" Then Odysseus is like, "WHO IS THAT MAN WITH MY WIFE? I'LL KILL HIM!" Then the prophet is like, "DUDE CHILL OUT ITS YOU???"

The prophet is telling him that he will in fact get home, and tells him what's going to happen when he gets home.

Ta-da, that's what I figured out! Either that or I'm just going insane! (My thought process on this whole thing has been going on since 1am, it is currently 5:30am)

Now that I have shared my thoughts with the world, I shall now go finally sleep, night!

[junofficerlover]

i decided why not share with you what i have so far for my fic Haunted Thunder where Polites as a spirit watches the events of the thunder saga for Scylla i used my EPIC OCs for the dead men so if you want to know more about them just ask and i will send link

Time didn't work as it used to and Polites was left to float around aimlessly in the bleak underworld.He faintly remembers seeing Odysseus but already it was fading from his mind, how long has he been here? Minutes? Months? Years? He has no idea. He is jolted out of his endless wandering and finds himself on a boat with…Odysseus?! Polites shakes himself out of his shock before rushing to hug his friend only to find himself unable to touch him only passing through him. He tries again to grab Odysseus’s arm and again he passes through his friend. “Odysseus!” Nobody hears him though and as Polites sinks to the deck he hears singing coming from the ocean. Odysseus starts responding to a voice..wait it can't be possible. Penelope has no way of being out at sea like this so what? The answer hits him hard ...no please don't be sirens! All Polites can focus on is stopping Odysseus from answering the siren's call. Any attempt is ignored until Odysseus raises his bow and…shoots at the siren? Polites breathes a sigh of relief as Odysseus reveals he had known all along about the sirens. The sirens had been caught and Polites couldn't help but smile. His friend always has a plan and this time was no exception. The sirens call for mercy and Polites waits for Odysseus to convince the sirens to leave and not bother them only to freeze at the order shouted to the wind. “Cut off their tails and throw them back in the water. Let them all drown.” Polites just stands there in shock before flinching as the crew obeys the order. Blood and screams fill the air. He slumps to the deck and sees Odysseus, cold and uncaring as he watches the sirens be thrown back into the sea before sailing on leaving behind a sea of blood and bodies.Polites feels sick to his stomach.

Everything fades away revealing another scene. They seem to be sailing through a dark cave and a haunting tune fills the air leaving the entire crew on edge.Odysseus orders for 6 torches to be lit and passed out to crewmembers. Polites tenses as six monstrous heads centering around a terrifying body emerge from the inky depths of the cave. He rushes towards someone holding a torch unaware of the monster behind him wishing desperately to save them. It was a meaningless effort as he passed through them only able to watch as blood splatters the deck and soon Polites screams mix in with the screams of the crew being picked off and eaten. One of the feathers from Julien’s ankle wings, a broken claw necklace from Nox, a scrap of Charis’s scarf. Everything is soaked in blood as Polites sobs and screams at all the death. He knows the names of everyone that was eaten.Julien who always put up an unbothered and mischievous front to hide his fear of hurting people he cared about. Nox who often used his silent footsteps and cat eyes to scare the crew. Charis who loves to sew as a way to be close to his dead mom. Lykos who only wanted to explore the world outside of the forest they grew up in. Almi the quarter water nymph who gifts any scales he sheds to people he trusts and loved swimming with dolphins. Therme who welcomes hugs and cuddles using his above average temperature to keep everyone warm with a smile. Huedo with his calming aura letting crew members sleep in his room to keep nightmares away. They are all dead now, life ended brutally and abruptly. Polites throws up as he sobs and grieves.

Polites is pulled out of his grief by Eurylochus’s voice. “Please tell me you didn't know that would happen. Look me in the eyes Captain and tell me you didn't just sacrifice 6 men!” Polites stared at Eurylochus in shock. How could he ever think that about Odysseus he would NEVER. But the silence drags on “SAY SOMETHING!” Eurylochus was breathing hard and Odysseus sharply turns to face him “I CANT.” Polites stares at Odysseus in disbelief. Now that he thinks about it Odysseus had not reacted at all to the men being eaten almost like….like he had expected it… Polites covers his mouth as his eyes tear up, feeling sick again. Odysseus didn't actually sacrifice 6 of the crew right? He watches Eurylochus face harden “then you leave me no choice.” Eurylochus draws out the giant sword from his back and faces Odysseus. “Please brother don't make me fight you!” Odysseus is panicking but as Eurylochus charges he pulls out his own sword to block with gritted teeth. Polites feels himself start shaking as he watches the fight. What could have happened after he had died?! How could this happen?! Eurylochus is knocked down and Odysseus raises his sword for the final strike “I won't let you get in my way!” Before he can deal the final blow he starts coughing up blood and he turns and sees that another crew member had stabbed him in the back with tearful eyes. Odysseus’s eyes fill with pain both emotional and physical “My brothers…why..” He falls forward landing on the deck with a thud. Polites cries out and stumbles over to his fallen friend. Once again his hands phase through Odysseus and he sobs, unable to do anything to help. Polites watches them patch up Odysseus before tying him to the mast. Polites stares blankly into the distance wondering how everything could have gone so wrong.

After everything that he has seen so far, Polites' heart aches for his friend. He does not know what had happened but the rest of the fleet being missing promises a heartbreaking answer. Whatever it was that happened changed Odysseus so much that he can hardly recognize his friend. The Odysseus he knows always has a spark of mischief in his warm eyes. He always tries his best to avoid unnecessary fighting and bloodshed. He always puts his all into keeping everyone alive and safe, never asking them to do anything he himself would not do. The Odysseus he knew is nowhere to be seen anymore. The spark of life in his eyes has all but faded, becoming cold and calculated. This Odysseus shows no mercy, only cruelty. He is willing to sacrifice his men to a monster. This new Odysseus is a monster himself willing to do anything to survive. If Polites had survived would things have been different? If he had not died to the cyclops would his friend have been able to laugh and smile still? Polites leans against the mast next to his friend and grieves the broken person Odysseus had become.

You're evil omg why would you do this to me holy crap

I love angst though so thanks for this 😭

This definitely hurt to read

[diverhybrid]

Hi, Happy late New Year. Hope everyone's celebrations and reunions went well. I spent it with my family, so that was awesome for me.

I had this idea in my head for a bit, and since I can't animate, I decided to put it in writing. I've been on a binge of Epic the musical for a while now, and I just kept coming up with ideas for my ocs if they went through the journey themselves.

This was the first song that I wrote a scenario for and I decided to put it here just to get it out there out of my head. I hope whoever reads it enjoys it and sorry if the writings a bit wonky or confusing.

Warning for descriptions of gore and blood up ahead

Oh, the Shimmertails and Shades are my own fan made tribe. I'll see when I upload their references to here. anyway, enjoy.

Cylla

Setting: After sending the shimmertail-Shade hybrids back to the water, tails, and sails cut off, they make their way towards the entrance of Cyllas layer. A supposed myth of a gorgeous dragoness cursed to appear like a monster and taking tribute to allow passage. All the crew members chat among each other as they prepare to enter. Skink walks around checking in with everyone, a worried and shamed expretion on his face as he talks with one particular soldier before he makes his way to Snowflare at the head of the ship, looking ahead to where they would go into.

The lair of Cylla

This is our only way home

Snow says as she hears her son aproach, looking into the cave, expretion blank as she examines the entrance and sailed closer.

Deep down

You're quiet today

Deep down

Not much to say

Deep down

Skink walked up behind his mother, letting out a deep breath as he stands next to her, his helmet off and hanging under his wing, not thinking anything would happen durring this part of the excursion. He faces his mom as he asked, having noticed her being more quiet, less active in checking in on the soldiers she led. She replied simply, expretion still blank as she gave him a glance of acknowledgment and looked ahead again

You hide a reason for shame

I've got a secret I can no longer keep

Skink said, voice serious as he faces ahead like his mother. Snow looks at him, a confused expretion on her face.

Deep down

You know that we are the same

I opened the wind bag while you were asleep

Skink admits, looking at his mother briefly before looking away, ashamed of what he had done and what that one innocent action had lead to.

Leaving them feeling betrayed

Breaking the bonds that you've made

I'm so sorry

There is no price we won't pay

Forgive me

We both know what it takes to survive

Skink turned to Snow, wings and head lowerd in apology, eyes closed as he lowerd his quills. Snow looked down at him, an unreadable expretion on her face as he exposed his neck to her, a sigh of weakness that the both of them picked up from their Icewing halfs.(My headcannon :p)

Full speed ahead, full speed, full speed ahead

Full speed ahead

The soldiers all walked about doing their tasks, the ones that had egged Skink to open the wind bag standing far away, ashamed themselves but too cowardly to speak up.

Deep down

We only care for ourselves

Eurylochus, light up six torches

Snow looked back ahead. The water moving in an unnatural way as they neared the center of the cave. She spoke, her tone flat as she told her son to light the torches. She already had something planned it seemed. Skink nodded and did as she asked.

He gathered six torches, wraped silk around the widest end and had a skywing light the torches. He gave five to the soldiers and held one himself as he walked to the side of the boat.

Deep down, we're lonely demons from hell

Captain, something approaches

Skink felt the ship sway, a strangely strong wave passing under them and rocking the whole vessel. He saw a sail in the water, his expretion on high alert as their seawings were in the ship with them, two of them holding torches. He flaped a wing to his mother, alerting her to the creature in the water

Hello

A voice, smooth and eary greeted skink. A ragged, feral looking Shimmertail floated in the water, their eyes almost glowing as it looked at the torch in Skinks talon. The shimmertail was ragged, sail and tail ripped in spots as if it had been in many fights, something that tribe was known to avoid.

All of a sudden the ship rocked violently as six gigantic eel looking heads formed from the water. The eyes of the water made abomination gleaming as they caught sight of the torches, the same way the Shimmertails eyes gleamed as it looked at Skinks torch. All the dragons on board looked around, frantic and ready to fight at Snows command. Snowflare herself looked at the Shimmertail, their eyes meeting almost in a conversation before she turned to her crew

Row for your lives

She roared, the soldiers on the oars not waiting a second as they started to move their ship away as quickly as possible. The shimmertail raised its talons, the water formed creatures responding and launching at the ship from six angles, the dripping water almost acting as drool as it fell from their open maws

Drown in your sorrow and fears

Choke on your blood and your tears

Bleed 'til you've run out of years

We must do what it takes to survive

(1)A head grabed at one of the torches bearers, it's bite just baraly missing their second wing, cutting it clean off as it raised the dragon into the air with a streak of blood following, (2)another head bit a second torch as it tried to defend itself, the tail of the dragon falling to the deck as the head returned to the waters below. (3)A third torch clawed at the wood, trying to keep itself from being dragged, only for another head to bite their back and lift them away, a pool of blood forming where they clawed at.

Give up your honor and faith

Live up your life as a wraith

Die in the blood where you bathe

We must do what it takes to survive

(4) two of the torches faced the heads, backs to each other to protect them. One is taken by surprise as a head, the water forming it mixed with blood, attacks them from the side. pulling the dragon over the rail and into the water. (5) The fifth is grabed by the creature from behind and lifted up, the second head tugging at the soldier like a toy as they are ripped in half. (6) Skink rushes to the fifth dragon to try and rescue them, being too late. A head comes up behind him for the kill but Skink is pushed away by another soldier, dropping the torch, his place being taken by the one who rescued him. He watches in horror as the dragon is carried away into the water. he sits there, panting and shaking as he relizes too late what had happend, what the torches had ment for those that had them in talon.

As the ship leaved the cave, the massacre is shown in full view as the sun hits the deck. blood, limbs, and gashes in the wood tell what happend there

We are the same, you and I, I

The voice of the Shimmertail echoes out of the cave and to the ship. Snow at the head repeats it's words, singing the "I" in unison to it, almost as if to say thanks for the passage and it accepting the sacrifices, her voice too quiet for the mourning crew to hear as they sail ahead.

[nothing-impt]

Take flying snakes doodles

OMG I LOVE THIS?!?!?! Especially the ‘feel me’ doodle. BRB keeping this my private collection!!

Edit: I WAS SO EXCITED THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS??? KIWISIAS�� BLINDFOLD OMFG