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Wait… where is the sword….who the heck has WARDENS WILL (Sam’s Sword)?!… you’re telling me, I found two SAM NOOKS IRON WILLs but not his torture sword wtf!… guess I need to add it to the scavenger hunt…
Oh we are also missing Wardens Trident…. and I guess… I haven’t seen his armor set either actually…
#I actually so upset right now. how hard does it have to be to catalog some damn torture tools >:[#dreblr#c!sam#dsmp map#dsmp#dream smp#dsmpblr#I've checked his house#his inventory and enderchest. Tubbos house. Technos. The prison... I'm not sure where else to look#I check all of Las Nevadas. all of both of Sam’s bases and chests scattered about near his projects. I checked Quackity#I check Dream. I checked Tommy. I know I poked around as Eret and looked through his whole castle but that wasn’t when I was looking for th#sword so it’s possible I missed it. I check the bank#I guess Ranboo could have it? I checked his house at some point and it didn’t stick out but again I wasn’t looking for it so maybe I missed#it. I check both of Tubbo’s houses too actually all three. other people who don’t have it include Sap Gogy Karl Punz Slime… I didn’t check#Ranboo’s inventory so maybe it’s in there… I don’t know#I also feel like Foolish should have a stash of goodie hidden somewhere and yet I searched everywhere and did not find one must just all be#in his shoulder box perhaps
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you probs get this ALOT,, but do you have any screenshots of grian?? if you don't yet, then that's alright! but if you plan on it idm he can be anywhere, super duper cool if he's in one of the spots you put mumbo in :D!!
- sincerest thank yous,
spade anon ♠️
Here ya go ^-^ took a bunch
#dsmp#grian#big innit hotel#eret's castle#l'manhole#las nevadas#benson#pandora's vault#panic room#skipped the line on this one as I already had the grian skin on ;)
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btw what the fuck was wrong with this server
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Highlights of the DSMP world download
the server is on 1.18.2
it seems this world download is from after techno's last stream with eret and tubbo rescuing Michael, however tommy's house is still destroyed and it's from before eret building the techno memorial in the museum
The spider XP farm and the guardian XP farm still work, tubbo's villager farm does not
the artic comune's wheat farm still works as well as phil's pumpkin farm
No pictures so everything like the inside of the Las Nevadas casino looks silly
speaking of las nevadas, the redstone also works so you can gamble!!!
the egg was CGI'd into the hole where it was during the egg lore finale, the hole is just glowstone with vines and item frames
named animals are still there including Michael the pig, who's in at cranboo's house
we've found 3 tales locations (city of mizu, village that went mad and blockbeard's treasure island) on the server
everyone's books are still here (if you get it you have to middle click to get the books in item frames or they will just disappear)
for some reason... mcpuffy's is completely empty
eret's megalovania castle tune still works
this was literally the first thing i found but there is a book schlatt wrote to quackity, the highlight of the book “You had the best ass in my cabinet”
there are 9 blocks of emeralds on the hill right next to the artic commune that was probably gonna be a beacon LMAO
there is a destroyed igloo near the artic commune with two villagers in the basement named "orphan's mom" and orphan's dad" LMAO
this is probably obvious but the portal to the other world doesn’t work, so techno’s build there is fully lost to time unless D decides to share that world download as well
speaking of the other portal, it sometimes you spawn in there when traveling from the nether back
i found a big cat statue on one of foolish’ pyramids… i dont remember the name of it im sorry…
ill edit with more stuff if i find something else
edit: i say things still work because i didnt thought they would from moving the world to a single player world, i also find it exciting to see those things work as i remembered from streams :')
edit: for the egg my theory is that the original egg was destroyed during the red banquet then recreated on the museum and that’s why they cgi’d it on the whole so they wouldn’t have to build it a third time 😭
(wss / dteam fans dni)
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another possible untapped potential (to my knowledge) is Previous Cycles. we do have hints of future and previous cycles form Tales so we know there are some. so why not explore those? why not look at the cycle that came before the DSMP, why not explore the one that came after the reset that we witnessed? what if the bastion from the very early days, the one taken apart by the end of the cycle of s1, was a stronghold of some other faction from long before? what if the ruined portals are portals built by the previous DTeam? what if the community house is seen 3 seasons later and Dream walks away, saying the place makes him sad? what if there are bits of bedrock found 5 cycles later and everyone leaves the desolate land? what if Snowchester becomes one of the ghost towns?
i think there's some untapped AU potential in the concept of future cycles beyond the typical fresh start season 2 formula.
Which those are great, but eventually, the server is going to become as decorated and built upon as the previous one. Maybe more so- why not? Obviously people have played a lot with how previous cycle events and relationship might influence the next one, but what about the cycle after that, or the one after that? Maybe their issues get just a little worse with every iteration, which is already not unheard of, but why stop at season 2?
#minecraft leds itself to so many great storytelling aspects for more seasons/cycles#the bastion was Techno's home. the ruined villages were once a small settlements near a completely ruined then-mainland#the portals are left behind by previous cycles#the strongholds that lead to the end were created by dream team with the help of xd at the beginning of time#the nether update was timed so very well with dsmp like its such an unintentionally brilliant aspect#also erets castle becoming a ruin through the ages#(I am once more reminded of the dreamland falling apart through different cycles in Deja Vu. this is propaganda for my favourite MV)#lmanhole becomes one with the lush caves
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Do you think they stole from people together. Do you think they lied about their age so they could drink beer with Wilbur and Eret. Do you think they huddled up in their tents when war nights were too cold. Do you think they made fun of c!dteam together. Do you think Tubbo was on lookout while Tommy wrote profanity on Eret’s castle. Do you think they did really bad harmony together when lmancrew sang campfire songs. Do you think they danced like fools on top of the walls. Do you think they bandaged each other’s wounds.
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waiter, waiter!! more dsmp screenies pretty please
Las Nevadas
Snowchester
L'manhole
Techno's cabin
i love optifine zoom
Kinoko Kingdom
Niki's secret city
Eret's castle
The Iconic Bench
my laptop suffered trying to take these so you better appreciate them
#dream smp#dsmp#screenies#las nevadas#snowchester#kinoko kingdom#lmanberg#nihachus kingdom#cant be bothered to put more of these im going to bed now bye
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All the Dream SMP cords i found
Spawn: 64 64 -100
Comunity portal: 191 74 -243
Comunity house: 245 63 -243
Eret's castle: 250 82 -108
Prime church: 264 66 -341
Tubbo's old base: 279 67 -382
Museum: 296 69 -436
Tommy's house: 260 86 -650
L'manburg ruins: 373 67 -636
Wilbur's memorial: 456 66 -575
Tubbo's secret tunnel: 484 34 -608
Final control room: 334 54 -624
Schlatt's grave: 336 69 -604
Tommyinnit hotel: 221 91 -714
Prison campsite: 79 69 -773
Snowchester: -228 65 -787
Ranboo's house: -242 72 -764
Pandora's vault: 182 63 -912
Dream's cell: -2 70 -914
Skeppy's mansion: 251 72 -793
Ranboo's panic room: 428 54 -879
L'manburg court house: 375 122 -528
Schlatt's gym: 558 33 -383
Pogtopia: 852 65 -530
Techno's nov 16th vault: 759 5 -694
Cookie outpost: -55 124 -83
Las nevadas: -176 93 -19
Wilbur's van: -250 63 120
Foolish summer home: -683 72 577
Kinoko kingdom: 280 67 365
Karl's library: 269 64 491
Niki's city: 286 50 529
Disc finale: -223 204 3316
Disc finale room: -230 8 3320
Nuke test site: -1195 57 -731
Sam's house: 251 68 -1959
Logstedshire: 624 69 -2061
Techno and phil's cabins: -88 70 -2479
Techno's vault: -123 72 -2532
Syndicate meeting room: -366 34 -2417
Jack's van: 3704 74 -2339
Ranboo's lab: -1314 23 -8614
Tubbo's jungle base: 213 65 12216
The lost city of Mizu: 13977 63 12937
Sewers: 251 51 -391
Connor's vacation home: 411 96 -890
BBH base: 168 28 -438
Egg entrance: 137 14 -458
Puffy's underground: 214 20 -592
Tommyinnit hate club: 301 64 -544
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i think this is the last remaining mingo in eret's castle
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so like what’s going on in your dsmp steven universe au
so. okay. i haven't actually thought of like ALL of the plot a crazy amount i literall yjust added dream today and he is like a very vital character LMFAO. but it's the same story of like. 6000 years ago a lapis (wilbur) and a pearl (tommy) led a resistance to protect earth and liberate gems. an emerald (dream) did everything in his power to stop them, even getting one of their most trusted members, eret, on his side, but blue diamond was "killed" so the rest of the diamonds (purple, green, and pink) decide to just destroy the earth. except they only Think they've destroyed the earth. so a very small sliver of the resistance, l'manburg, survives. which is wilbur, tommy, niki, and jack. they find tubbo later amethyst style (not 100% sure about this just what i've been thinking). cut to 6000 years later and wilbur has died to give life to fundy with sally. not 100% sure of the plot from there LMFAO. i have ideas for stuff with quackity, sapnap, and karl later. and dream becomes like a major villain like. jasper but more prior history with wilbur and tommy. but yeah i've literally mostly thought about wilbur, dream, and tommy's past in this au rather than like. the present actual plot LMFAO.
but yeah i mean steven universe spoilers if you care if you read my other post it was definitely spoiled but wilbur is actually blue diamond he just realized like Ohh i actually fw humans and dont want to destroy their beautiful earth... Tommy let's fuck shit up. also tommy is like his pearl that was made for him at the castle except well he wasnt really Supposed to have a pearl at the time he just kind of made one bc he wanted one and tommy is like OBVIOUSLY not the ideal of pearl he speaks without thinking and he's offcolor in some places but wilbur thinks he's awesome and they quickly become besties and brothers.
here's my tommy design i was working on, im not an artist but he has red shoulders so he is offcolor but tommy makes something to cover it up on homeworld but when they become revolutionaries tommy always lets them show and makes them a part of his l'manburg uniform.
here is my friend socks @titsoutfortntduo's art of crimeboys + dream, BIG fan he is so good at character design...
#asks#anon#story ideas#he has another drawing of crimeboys smiling and hanging out but idk if he wanted me to put them there bc he decided to redraw... bc he#hates my best friends...
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PRAYING for eret on the qsmp rn. q!eret would go So Hard. pls theyre a fucking menace and they like building and can speak a little french it would be neat they would get along great with everyone. they can even go crazy and build another castle or two pls pls pls q!eret Prayage
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yess would love to hear ur older Michael thoughts :]
to me michael grows up to be someone who is obsessed with exploring. i think being brought up in a very isolated corner of the smp with very overprotective parents would leave him in a place of wanting to know about the world but being afraid to actually step foot out into it.
i think he gets into cartography. the nether is a very confusing place to navigate and compasses dont work, so i reckon having a way to actually orient yourself in the overworld would be something he would enjoy and want to engage in more. he makes maps of the server, finds old maps from different eras, and preserves the maps found in the rubble of the old museum.
i actually headcanon him as straight and asexual. i think as he fully matures he gets ridiculously good with riptide tridents, not only because of his love of the outdoors but also because his trident doubles as a walking stick.
he never learns ender because i dont think ranboo would even know the beginnings of how to teach it to someone else, but hes fluent in both common and piglin after he starts exploring the nether.
he lives in a small house near where the community house was, a bit to the left of eret's castle down past the courthouse, on a river. he does a lot of fishing in his free time. he's not much for snow, as its way too cold for someone meant for the nether.
i think hes a bit distant with his parents, but still friendly enough with them to have a good time. tubbo and michael spend time working on his maps, with tubbo telling him stories about the server as if it were through rose-tinted lenses and brushing aside the severity of some of the conflicts as tubbo tends to do. with ranboo, michael and him mainly make conversation while he's out exploring, with the two mainly discussing whatever it is theyre currently doing at the moment. ranboo is the type to really want to connect with michael, but because he wasnt there a lot when michael was young, he doesnt really know how to, but the two of them are both giving a really honest effort.
he gets along decently well with tommy, and tommy made a special knit hat for him that covers the exposed skull half of his face. i actually imagine him going through a phase where he tries to cover up and hide the skull side of his face as much as possible, probably when he starts trying to explore the nether more. by the time he's like 21 though, hes a lot better about owning the zombie half, and has one of the piglins he meets in the nether carve "tattoos" into the bone. tubbo thinks it looks cool as shit.
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A promise is a promise, so here you guys go (might not be lore accurate i'm not a dsmp fan)
How to stop a dreamer by @mcyt-builds-contest
Dream is faced with a power he had never seen before: shreeping
"It had been weeks since Dream started putting this plan, months even, it had to be perfect, everything was calculated, everyone had been studied, corrupted, manipulated. there were no variable left, not a single amount of "unknown" was allowed in this equation. Dream had done it, it was the perfect plan." Punz was monologuing while trying to sneak out of what remained of L'manberg without getting noticed, a compass in hand, tonight would this symphony be finaly finnished.
Dream didn't really have a base, but he was hiding a room in the castle he once gave to Eret, and the empty walls of the structure made it feel like a prison, none of the torches had been lit in a long time, except a faint light, dissapearing behind a corner. "For Goodness sake why does he keep doing it!?" Dream's voice echoed through the hallway, startling Punz for an instant, he had never heard him this upset before.
"Dream? Is something wrong?"
"Oh. Sorry Punz, I didn't see that you were there." answered Dream, his mask dangling in one of his hands, "It's just that my foolproof plan, wasn't foolproof enough!", his voice started to derail a little has Dream tried to keep his composure, his grip thightening on his mask, almost cracking it
"But we took everything into account!" Punz added, his voice tinted in disbelief as he sat down, "We didn't make a single error!"
Dreamed sighed, exasperated by this new obstacle, "Turns out, Ranboo can only enderwalk during nighttime,"
"And?"
"And that guy, what's his name again, Bdubs? seem to just be able to sleep it away!" Dream threw his mask down on the table, filled with maps, papers and books, before taking out a folder filled with hastly scribbled pages, covered in all kinds of markings, "Since he 'appeared' here two week ago, he skipped throught every single night."
"You have a solution right? you always find a solution!" Punz said before taking a closer look at one of the pages, on it was drawn a pair of sunglasses,a weird rift-looking location and some sort of weird structure, labeled "temple to the sun god (ME!), gifted by Sausaage :p", Punz took the rest of the green folder arbored with the meticulous drawing of a clock, before asking "Where did you find this?"
"I took them from a diary i found in that Bdubs guy's house!"
"And you have a plan then?"
"Of course i do" Dream slighlty smirked, before putting his mask back on, "Remenber that prison i made Sam build and i'm supposed to go in? I think we may have to change the convict :)"
#mcyt base contest#dsmp fanfic#< i didn't think i would go there but i take promises seriously#worst part is probablys sealed myself into expanding this more since that fucking vault keep winning#Bdubs in a situation (the vault i the situation)
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ERET AND WELS FOR THE THEME… the crackship tourney convinced me
It's easy to fall into being the loyal knight and monarch, but that's ignoring the main benefit of their relationship.
Castles. Building so, so many castles.
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Thank uuu :D
Im coming over soon, just gotta find my coat 👍
Mya sets her communicator down, searching through her room in the castle as she tried to find her coat. She eventually found it under her bed in a box full of winter clothes. She put it on, along with some boots before grabbing her communicator again and putting it in the coats pocket. She yells to Eret she'll be gone for a bit before walking out the castles doors to begin the walk to techno and Phil's base.
Alright, thank you
Techno sat down his communicator, getting to his feet, grabbing the few books that sat on his coffee table, putting them up, tossing a bit of wood into his fireplace to keep the cabin warm.
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not to dsmp post in the year 2025 but ive been sitting on this take for 4 years and i have to get it out of my system. i never joined the fandom online back then when it was all happening bc of how wild the community could be sometimes but ive been sitting on this for SO long n its been long enough i think
c!ranboo was one of my absolute favourites and i loved him SO much but heavily disagreed with one thing from him
on doomsday (one of the doomsdays bc there were like 3 or something) he had that moment where he ended up yelling at everyone over taking 'sides' and why they all had to be fighting & why couldnt we all just be neutral and peaceful instead of splitting into separate distinct opposing teams etc etc etc and i can almost kind of see how hed have a point - however there are issues with that standpoint SUCH AS -
lets look at the two sides: on one you have the strongest most skilled people decked out head to toe in the most absolute top of the chain gear - c!dream, c!techno & c!phil, whose aim is to absolutely and completely decimate l'manberg with their withers and obsidian bomb dispenser they have spanning across the entirety of the whole place
on the other side you have the people who have nothing. those were just kids trying to keep their homes, and they had nothing to fight with after the other side raided all their gear and got rid of it all. they fought tooth and nail to keep their homes time and time again with the odds stacked higher and higher against them each time
imo l'manberg had 3 main people involved that really contributed to its downfall, & only one was there on doomsday - c!dream. the other two were c!wilbur & c!schlatt. they were the big 3 involved in the l'manberg politics who were adults & not children following orders/defending themselves (which is why i dont include c!tommy/c!tubbo etc in that list). they were the corrupt power hungry quote unquote "politicians" (for lack of a better word) that projected all their issues onto everyone else and dragged them all into it
(if you squint you could technically include c!eret in that list, but imo in reality they were really only just another pawn for c!dreams big game of chess as a way to pitt the opposition against each other & gain power over them, c!eret never really had actual power/rule over anyone or anything they just lived in a castle and took c!dreams word for it. also they redeemed themselves and rejoined the freedom side anyway)
lets start with c!wilbur - he was very manipulative, he liked having control & he craved power but there wasnt really an opportunity for it, so he built the van and attempted to start a potion 'empire' by seizing control over a commonly used item (brewing stands) to gain leverage over the more powerful players. he dragged other vulnerable & generally powerless people (yknow, like children) into it & used them as his building blocks to the top. c!tommy is the biggest victim of this from him. once the potion empire thing stopped working out thats when he shifted the narrative to the freedom-fighting-rebellious nation we came to know l'manberg for. he sparked that (he sparked it & the others kept it alive because they really believed in it and really believed in him) and at first i think he to an extent genuinely did believe in it and really did want freedom for him and his people with little to no other conscious intentions, but the subconscious want for power was always there and bubbled to the surface as he spiralled really far into corruption in the pogtopia arc (what started as "a special place where men can go and emancipate the brutality and the tyranny of their rulers" became "IF I CANT HAVE L'MANBERG NO ONE CAN PHIL")
then c!dream - even from before l'manberg he was fighting c!tommy over his music discs, & i guess that just cemented c!tommy as the no1 enemy in his brain for the rest of time even though c!tommy was really just a loud kid trying to get by. he was also power hungry and wanted to keep all the power he had so he felt threatened by the formation of l'manberg. other less powerful people taking some level of control & separating themselves from him startled him, especially with c!tommy involved in the opposition. he knew he was the most powerful on the server & didnt want anyone else to forget that so he consistently used fear and force to remind the others how much stronger he was than them, the main victims being l'manberg and its citizens as they were the first and biggest group to rebel against him (and the group with c!tommy in it but thats neither here nor there). he struggled to accept the idea of people having some kind of autonomy to lead a life separate from the server he ruled over (he even said blatantly he would never think of l'manberg as free, only that he would let them delusionally believe they were free in his discussion with c!tommy)
and c!schlatt was just your run of the mill big bad in your face power hungry corrupt politician. he wasnt super manipulative or anything similar to the other two, he was just an evil dude that, again, was power hungry and corrupt like c!wilbur and c!dream. he dragged others into it by using c!quackity to gain leverage in the election via votes, and by keeping the citizens of l'manberg manberg under his crazy authoritarian control and he did that pretty much mostly out of enjoyment and greed. he liked that he intimidated the people around him and frequently used that to his advantage because it amused him
it was those 3 that created the us vs them dynamic & pitted everyone else against each other by creating 'sides' because they were the ones who wanted the power, and they were the ones who dragged everyone else into their conflicts. they were greedy and self centred and made that everyones problem
ones like c!techno & c!phil arent included in that list because they were never greedy for power over other people, they were just people who happened to be powerful. they mostly just kept to themselves in their little cottages but because of the perceived rivalry that was created by the Big 3 and then projected onto everyone else, they declared l'manberg to be the problem. even though c!schlatt and c!wilbur were out of the picture by that point, their actions had left the repuatation of l'manberg tainted from the perspective of those outwith the country itself, whereas the people left behind in it (like c!tommy & c!tubbo etc etc) just saw it as their home, just the place that they lived in and had built their lives. the others outside had grown to view l'manberg as the cause for all the servers problems because of the way it separated itself from the rest of the server and was another thing, and because of the actions of the corrupted leaders itd began with (and also - l'manberg was really the only place for people to fight for power over with the political system it had set up, no one really ever challenged c!dreams position of power over the rest of the server, only within l'manberg at least until that final disc battle)
it was very much a punch up vs punch down dynamic that people like c!techno and c!phil and even c!ranboo couldnt really see, because they all lived comfortably with powerful top of the chain gear far away from all the main conflict, and none of them were actually present for the beginnings of the conflict. none of them were present to witness the disc war or the formation of l'manberg, they were never there to hear c!dream tell c!tommy that hed never see them as free from him as c!tommy handed him the disc. they joined at the height of it all where the two "sides" were already very distinct and at war with each other
c!techno joined at the point of c!schlatt being in charge of l'manberg and at that point he was helping the underdogs because in that moment c!tommy and c!wilbur asked for his help and shared his goals - to overthrow a tyrannical corrupt government. then c!wilbur, knowing full well he was right about to blow up the country within the next few minutes, shoveled all the power and responsibility of the country over onto a kid (c!tommy, who then immediately handed it back to him & then he immediately handed it over to c!tubbo). by the time c!phil joined c!tubbo was already president (& had only been for like five minutes) and c!wilbur was in the midst of blowing up the country (note - c!wilbur had the presidency and had l'manberg under his rule again, he chose to hand it off to c!tubbo and then carry out his plan to blow it up while telling c!phil "if i cant have this no one can")
c!techno was never there to see the way l'manberg itself began as a challenge to a tyrannical rule (because although c!wilbur was manipulative and corrupt and power hungry, ultimately he did have a leg to stand on with his methods which is why it worked so well for him and why he was so easily able to paint that picture of oppression - the canvas was already sketched and lined) and continued to exist as a rebellion against an even worse system than itself. at that point c!wilbur was still seen as the 'good guy' who just wanted freedom for his nation from the tyrannical authoritarian rule of c!dream, so c!schlatt suddenly coming into power was a sharp left turn government wise, and c!techno just joined right at that sharp left turn moment where the big bad evil government had just came in and made some significant differences. differences not only in the economic system of l'manberg but also tainting the core values that once held the citizens of it so high and hopeful against corruption. so c!techno never saw that rebellious freedom fighting nation that l'manberg started off as and was supposed to always be, he only saw it as the nation with the corrupt government
c!phil was in a similar situation, he also never saw it as that rebellious freedom fighting nation and only saw the damage that the power hungry corrupt people had done to it. he joined right at the crucial moment and only saw the conflict and damage surrounding the country of l'manberg. because of this he ended up adopting the perception that the place itself was the problem if it was causing this many issues this severe. he failed to notice that after c!wilbur and c!schlatt were both out of the picture the problems between l'manberg specifically and the rest of the server were only being revived on c!dreams end, and c!tubbo as the new leader of l'manberg did not start conflicts (although the butchers army is a whooole other ballgame but thats not what this post is about - that was mainly spearheaded by c!quackity- who is again a whooooole other post)
if c!tommy hadnt declined the presidency then c!dream wouldve been slightly more justified in having a go at l'manberg as a whole for the whole burning-down-c!georges-house-thing, but ultimately it seemed more like he just wanted to flex his power over them even more. just as another reminder he could tear them down any moment he wanted to without a single second thought- he used it as A. another opportunity to keep the citizens of l'manberg fearful of him (almost like a kind of "remember whos really in charge here" type deal - again think back to he & c!tommys original negotiations of freedom in the og revolution) and B. another opportunity to punch down on c!tommy specifically (exile arc is another whooooole other post), he was given an inch and he took a mile. c!tommy explicitly stated that the reason he did not take the presidency was specifically so that any business/issues with c!dream would stay exclusively between him and c!dream without dragging the rest of l'manberg into it but c!dream ignored that entirely
c!ranboo joined right at that moment, of c!dream enforcing his power over l'manberg, but he saw c!tommy technically strike first with burning down c!georges house. he didnt see all the previous strikes c!dream had made on c!tommy & l'manberg. he just saw c!tommy make a move and then saw c!dream make a move back, therefore creating a back and forth rivalry dynamic which, in his eyes, could easily just cease if theyd stop pitting against each other and lived peacefully. he doesnt seem to notice just quite how corrupt and power hungry c!dream really is especially when it comes to c!tommy and l'manberg, he only notices different people teaming up to fight against each other & not a case of oppressed vs oppressor. c!ranboo, like c!phil and c!techno has never really had too much of an issue with getting a hold of good armour and weapons and equipment, and hasnt really had anyone like c!dream stand in his way to take everything from him the way everyone in l'manberg has. c!ranboo has had issues with c!dream and has been used by him (another whooooole separate post), but he seemed to focus slightly less on the 'c!dream using any tactic available to him to enforce his power on everyone' side of things and moreso the 'what is wrong with me i need to figure out why this is possible for him to do this to me' side of things
theyve all heard about all the wars and conflicts etc from before they all joined, but they struggled to fully really empathise and actually see it from the others perspectives. this is why c!ranboo was wrong in his view on 'taking sides' on doomsday
#that ended up a wayyyy longer ramble than i initially intended#literally never posted ab the dsmp when it was all happening bc of how crazy people were ab it online both in favour of and against#but ive been sitting on this take for sooooo fuckign long#gotta just flush this outta my system its been bugging me for YEARS#there is SO much to go through and SO many other things to analyse with that server but thisll do for now#note - all this only applies to pre doomsday & doomsday!! everything after that (prison era etc) is not included!!#this is also!! just my opinion if u have a dif take on it theres no beef here :]#dsmp#dream smp#dsmp lore
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