#edited to stop spreading misinformation lmao

[whatwooshkai]

having rescue bots thoughts and I think heatwave's aim is total dogshit but he gets away with it because he's gotta spray water in the general direction of the fire so yeah! aim for the fire so when you miss you hit the fuel! but god forbid you make him do anything that requires hand eye coordination and kade is starting to doubt that he actually graduated from this so called "academy"

[ell-arts]

Hey you mentioned you tried to fix the wiki before when you made your account there, What happened there at that time when you tried to fix the misinfos? Did someone else take control and spread more misinformations or you just could edit the wiki in general?

Lmao, nope there wasn't any drama between me and the other editors - at least not of that sort XD

I just stopped caring about it after a while tbh. It gets tiring checking in frequently to make sure everything is up to date. At some point, I just accepted that the wiki will never be 100% perfect, so I decided to spend my time elsewhere.

I mostly did general edits - correcting misinformation, improving language and grammar, and even adding a bit more flare to some descriptions. One of the big issues was that the majority of articles on the PMATGA wiki were open to anyone to edit freely - which meant that it was easy for trolls to jump in and make bad edits. The best way to remedy this was to set the articles so that only admins or mods could edit it, or at least keep it locked from receiving public edits. But only the admin can enable such a feature, and unfortunately at the time, the wiki's admin was hard to reach and hard to communicate with (I think they were even responsible for some false info, such as making up a 3rd season and listing fake episode names as if they were canon). There was nothing more I could do other than waste my time chasing after trolls and making tiny edits here and there. So I just stopped at some point and completely forgot about my wiki account lol. I haven't checked my account, or the wiki, in several years, so I can't say whether or not things have gotten better. Too scared to even look haha.

[faranae]

Youtube Removing Captions?

EDIT: THIS POST IS OLD, OUTDATED, AND INACCURATE. Tumblr decided it was going to be popular and I still get harassed over it regularly. I've since been corrected, educated, and had many wonderful discussions with members of the community about this post (no sarcasm, its genuinely been fantastic at times). The intent was to stop the spread of misinformation, but my wording was absolute shit. The horse has been beaten to death. Please stop sending me threats lmao.

Old post under the cut to preserve:

TFW people are getting outraged and writing essays over a thing a popular platform did without actually reading what the popular platform did. 

Please read more than headlines. 

I’m literally begging.

Youtube is garbage lately but all it’s done this time is removed the ability for any user off the street to submit captions to videos. Youtube has alternate captioning methods (manual, automatic, and 3rd-party) which are used by FAR MORE users compared to user-submitted captions. They have the data to back up the decision, too:

[...] the feature is rarely used with less than 0.001% of channels having published community captions (showing on less than 0.2% of watch time) in the last month.

Let me bold, header, and caps these since people are needlessly panicking: 

MANUAL, AUTOMATIC, AND THIRD-PARTY CAPTIONS ARE STILL GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ON YOUTUBE AFTER SEPTEMBER 28TH. 

Period. They aren’t getting rid of subtitles. Stop panicking. 

THE 6-MONTH SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE YOUTUBE IS OFFERING IS FOR CREATORS TO USE WHILE THEY SOURCE ALTERNATE CAPTIONING METHODS. 

This isn’t Youtube telling the hearing-impaired community to pay for subtitles, it’s Youtube trying to soften the blow for smaller channels. This allows smaller creators to find alternate ways to caption their work, be it learning to do the captions themselves, a third-party subscription service, help from friends, or contracting someone out to do it for them. 

As well as setting up the 6 months for the single service (Amara), they also pulled some strings and set up discounts for Youtubers through 3Play Media, Cielo24, and Rev. Not the best selection but it’s better than nothing to start. 

Again I stress: Paying for captions is NOT A THING. This is people NOT READING what is actually being discontinued. 

Captions are still there and you can still submit them manually or work with your favorite small creators to add translations and captions to their videos. All that is being removed is the community submission tool as it was being misused and abused constantly for very little benefit overall. 

YOUTUBE IS ADDING A SUPPORT ROLE TO CHANNELS THAT ALLOWS USERS TO HELP A CHANNEL WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING ITS SECURITY. 

This one is still in the works. Yes, this means channels can finally add helpers to work on captions (and other stuff!) if they want to without exposing their personal info and finances.

WITH THAT ALL SAID:

Google is notorious for removing products and features once the manpower required to maintain them outweighs their usefulness. This is not the first time, and won’t be the last. 

Does that make this situation suck any less? Of course it doesn’t. 

The point here is: Tumblr is doing That Thing again where it takes an impossibly tiny take on developing news and rolls it into a massive scandal. Take a step back, and take a steady breath if you can. Things suck, but that doesn’t excuse that they are being blown far out of proportion. 

TL;DR: Youtube removed ONE METHOD of submitting captions, not all captions entirely.

That’s it, I’m out. Be kind. :)

[silver-wield]

Hi I was the one that was looking for Cloti fics and found that CA fic about their "official song", I just want to say that I WASN'T looking for CA fics, the thing is that in Fanfiction you can read the summary of the fics, and I always read them quickly! So I saw that about an "official song" for CA and went searching for the official statement, didn't find it anywhere and because they wasted my time I decided to leave the CA writer a comment saying that they should stop spreading misinfo

I wouldn't think too much of it, they make wild claims about having 10+ love songs lmao. No cloti goes looking for anything of theirs, they just like acting like we're obsessed with them because they have nothing and they're jealous we understand the story and have fun and get canon content too.

They'll always spread lies and misinformation, twist things, fake screenshots and edit scenes. It's just what they do 🤷‍♀️

There was a cult alt on twitter today who tried to act offended that a cloti made a joke about how this guy who sent death threats to se is probably one of them.

Which is funny because they do that. They then tried to deflect by saying we sent Ayumi Ito death threats. Because clotis sending Tifa's va death threats sounds logical 🤦‍♀️

Instead of accepting the fact these people have the type of reputation where it's believable they'd do this, this cult alt tried to twist things so we're "attacking them" for making a joke about them.

Sorry not sorry, maybe don't be trash and people wouldn't associate you with this type of thing 🤷‍♀️

I mean, that other dumdum had the face to say we can't mind our own business, and is over in the cloti tag harassing people 🤦‍♀️

The JP fandom doesn't deal with this shit btw. They understand the story and that Cloud and Tifa are a couple.

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Also like..."the right can pour so many billions of dollars into shifting culture in their direction without anyone expressing concern that it will work. i'm sorry to have to tell you that it *is* working." ??

It would be one thing to talk about marginalised/leftist etc voices being stifled and kept from making a profit. Or if songs with actual right wing messages were being pushed disproportionately. But this seems to be saying that listening to Mumford and Sons and Imagine Dragons TURNS PEOPLE RIGHT WING through the power of... inoffensive jangly ballads about, like, gaining superpowers and bittersweet regret.

I mean maybe some right wing radio owners believe it does and are pushing those bands for that reason? But honestly...even if that were true, who cares? There are so many more important issues with media bias, corruption, voices being silenced etc to deal with that are definitely real and have unambiguous consequences. And creating and repeating shaky conspiracy theories just seems like a really unhelpful approach to social justice (and music)

In my experience: whatever your political leanings, conspiracy thinking easily spirals into misinformation and paranoid cultishness, and rarely has any sort of positive personal or political effect. Personally, I've decided to stop spreading anything too conspiracy-ish, even if it seems true, unless it BOTH has solid sources AND spreading it will actually achieve something concrete beyond making already put-upon people feel more miserable and paranoid. And this satisfies none of the above.

EDIT: Ok I wrote this before reading all the links above (bad me!) and one had this ironic quote from the lead singer of the Lumineers:

Schultz invoked another stalwart supporter of Global Citizen when thinking about music’s role in combatting injustice.

“In my own experience, music can cut through like nothing else can,” Schultz said. “I studied psychology, and my dad was a psychologist, and one of the things you learn is that it's very hard to hold onto a belief when you're presented with strong evidence that contradicts that belief.”

“So, it's hard to hate all black people if you love Jay Z, as it is hard to hate gay people if you love listening to Queen or Elton John,” he added. “The beautiful thing about music is that it can actually transcend hate and ignorance. It doesn't happen overnight, but it's a start toward something better.”

brain man @lemonade_grrrl [picture of Mumford and Sons] remember this genre of music from like 2011. i like to call it stomp clap hey. that shit sucked lmao

jaime brooks ☭ @elite_gz: this type of music overwhelmed rock and "alternative" radio stations in america very shortly after bain capital took control of iheartmedia (fka clear channel) which is the company that owns like half of all US radio stations. marcus mumford, the main singer/songwriter and namesake of the band mumford & sons, is the son of john and eleanor mumford, who founded an organization that runs over 100 evangelical churches in the UK and ireland. bain, which counts mitt romney among the men who founded the company, took control of iheart in 2008. Try to imagine what that company using radio to advance a cultural/political agenda would look like. it looks exactly like this, doesn't it? [screenshot of some top songs list: 'Believer' Imagine Dragons; 'Thunder' Imagine Dragons; 'Radioactive' Imagine Dragons; 'High Hopes' Panic At The Disco; 'Ho Hey' The Lumineers]

The other culprit is american radio's ad-based business model. "rousing," "uplifting," "inspirational" music appeals to advertisers more than darker or more emotionally complex music because their only goal is creating a "call to action" that will compel you to buy a product. This constant toxic faux-positivity in ads and media corrodes our sense of self-worth and our relationships with one another. it teaches us to see every part of ourselves that does not fit into the narrow spectrum of acceptable vibes as a disease https://instagram.com/p/CRxGV0MMiwk/

Liberals love to dismiss this stuff as unimportant, which is part of the reason why the right can pour so many billions of dollars into shifting culture in their direction without anyone expressing concern that it will work. i'm sorry to have to tell you that it *is* working.

[imperiuswrecked]

It’s very easy to change them. I’m in the Dream SMP fandom and all of that is live streamed roleplay so people will add whatever they want site a random stream and no one will question it. There are just headcanons on the wiki being presented as fact. For comics it’s the same most people don’t read them so if a random comic is cited they’ll just believe it. - @cassiegirlwonder

I tell people all the time to take fandom wiki's with a grain of salt. I had someone write the character pages for a game that had just came out, and they filled it with personal headcanons and then messaged me to tell me how happy they were that their headcanons were being used in fics and meta talk. And in the Dishonored fandom we had a solid like, year of spite editing one character's page over shipping drama. Flash Thompson also had (its now been edited) a wife lmao - @cannibal-wings

And like I was lucky cuz that character who had their bio massively edited is a bit niche and had a few comic appearances. So I managed to re-read them all to see if I missed out on anything and no. No cult shenanigans. It was just a strange edit. So... Euh maybe some advice? If you guys have any favorite character who you've read most if not all the issues of and can present an objective view on things, maybe check their page to see if there's anything... Weird. Just in case - @ Anon

I think Anon's advice is very valid, if there is a way for people to stop misinformation from being spread in fandom then it's a good way to promote more accurate info about characters and help cut back on any unnecessary drama.

I'm just really shocked because I've been in fandom for years and just assumed it wasn't this easy.

Yeah, Fandom wikis are very easy to edit... And tend to spread misinformation on a few occasions. Last week I had to re-edit a whole character's bio because someone decided to give him a past as a cult leader when the dude was never a cult leader. Ever. The thing is, I caught this from another character page that mentioned this "plot point" and used the edited wiki page as reference. In other words: The false editing problem is spreading...

I never knew it was that easy to change them and I really thought you had to be a vetted member or something. That is a big problem especially since if no one catches it then a lot of misinformation can spread which just causes problems in fandom.