#ds9 spoilers I guess

[stopthatbluecat]

Something that makes me apoplectic about Jadzia's death is that they create a storyline about her and Worf wanting to have a baby just for shock value when she dies when LITERALLY Jadzia getting pregnant would have actually been a perfect way to give Terry Farrell exactly what she wanted in less screen time etc.

It really just twists the knife in how they treated her.

[not-equippedforthis]

i'm on episode 3 of ds9 and i've formed five main thoughts about garak and julian:

oh my god he's even more homosexual towards julian than i thought. even with all of my knowledge. and expectations from watching tos. what was that.

he's a TAILOR??

this man would be such a fucking dickhead in among us

or go fish

JULIAN'S A LONDONER???

[andyoullhearitagain]

Wow I loved how the mission of helping Jadzia's spirit to Klingon Valhalla was about her different relationships with the people who cared about her and not a pissing contest about who wants to fuck her more. Sure would have been terrible if that's how the episode had been. Thank goodness we don't live in that reality.

[vanlegion]

I think at this point I have to pretty much regard season 19 as the truest form of 'Crack Taken Seriously' which. . . huwa, I could do (but damn it would be a struggle...)

But only if you believe in the narrative *NOT* shown.

There's an After for these guys. But I think that's kind of up to us? (. . . Yeah I'm already writing the AFTER fic. Fuck me.) So unless some miracle happens and either the IP gets bought up and the crew gets to do some little shorts like what the Crwby is doing ... Or Geoff and Gus ever pull off what Alexander Siddig and Andrew Robinson did for the Star Trek DS9 Bashir/Garak community. I guess we just make our own canon at this point.

[grissomesque]

Oh by the way, "Frontier Day" can go to hell 🖕

[dogindirt]

Okay...... I can feel bad for dukat. ☝️ once

[morganlabae]

okay the more I watch ds9 the more I do see the similarities to Babylon 5 and it’s honestly fascinating? Like the Cardassian/Bajoran parallels to the Centauri/Narn relationship, the way the dominion war brews in the horizon for a long time before fuckign exploding, the way the station is at the heart of all of it?? And they’re very different stories but it’s so cool to see these themes explored in a wildly different and higher budget show

[synthaphone]

im early in season 6 but i thought i’d see if anyone made a ds9 character tierlist, and they did, so here’s mine. some of the characters in ‘who are you’ might be from upcoming episodes, but i know who ezri is even though i haven’t met her yet so i just left her off the tierlist. also this person had weyoun in there multiple times with numbers, so i just grabbed a random one because Whatever

[walkingstackofbooks]

DS9 1x20 In the hands of the prophets thoughts (rewatching; spoilers for future episodes abound probably)

The opening MilesxKeiko scene is sweet. I don't like irrational jealousy, but it was more teasing of Miles' obliviousness and was just funny and cute

Man I've missed Keiko. l thought she was around more in early season when I was missing her in later seasons, but I guess that was just rose-tinted memories

Oh. Winn's appeared. Ugh.

Keiko using her teacher voice to answer Winn's interruptions - "Yes, on Bajor the entities are worshipped as prophets." *continues lesson* 👌👌👌 Winn's point is not completely unreasonable, but the manner she brings it up is.

I love you Kira, but you don't *really* believe in Bajoran separatism, do you??

Oh my god I hate Winn's fake piety so much, you can tell she resents Sisko with every word she says. Don't you speak about Kai Opaka, she wouldn't stand for you

Yeah ever since Neela started showing up in the past few episodes consistently I knew something was gonna go down with her because frequent side characters are not normal

(side note: what happened to the Federation security bloke? I felt for sure he was dodgy but he never was he just disappeared)

"I've tried to be reasonable" FUCK YOU NO YOU HAVEN'T YOU'VE JUST PRETENDED AND GIVEN NO REAL OPTIONS. STAGING A "DISCUSSION" WITH AN AUDIENCE IS NOT THE SAME AS ACTUALLY HAVING A DISCUSSION YOU ASS

I hate her so much

I cannot

I lowkey love how petty Keiko is in teaching Galileo. Like, honey, no, that's not the way to keep the moral high ground here, and Jake's conclusions from the lessons are very wrong - but it is a Queen Move.

Sisko is best dad and I love the understanding he shows Bajorans when explaining to Jake they're not wrong.

BAREIL. Oh man. Now I'm re-watching I'm just going to be sad about how the Kai elections turn out instead of wildly optimistic whenever I see him, aren't I?

Nah I'm still gonna hope he wins

And I'm still gonna hope Kira elopes with Dax rather than ending up with him -he's fine as a spiritual leader but nah as a love interest

Odo and Quark just doing their thing :3 both "just doing their jobs" my ass

YES SISKO go off on her

FUCK I knew she'd influenced Neela but I'd forgotten about this scene SHE EXPLICITLY SENT A YOUNG BAJORAN GIRL LOOKIGN TO HER FOR SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE TO HER DEATH FOR A CHANCE AT POWER I HATE HER SO MUCH maybe I don't wanna watch the rest of this again I'd forgotten how awful Winn is

Lol the build-up to assassination is so tense and then there's the slow-mo with Sisko shouting "noooo" and I just can't XD

Oh, Kira. Once again, you deserve to have a break.

Welp, I'd forgotten how much I hate Winn and I'm already missing Season 1 and it's lack of her presence up until now.

Guess I'm just gonna have to make peace with the "I know how it turns out but I'm still hoping what was recorded on TV can magically change to become better" feeling.

Like, I don't mind the characters being massively traumatised by every other event. But Winn, being allowed to exist, let alone eventually become Kai? Nah. Nope. Can we not.

[goblins-and-gloves]

there better not be two guys with guns behind this door

fuck

[viggolinothetrashcan]

There aren’t many spoilers but you must respect the grind

Can i watch ds9 or voyager if i haven't finished tng yet? Or are there any major spoilers?(im on 3rd season of tng)

[ooojudithooo]

Go watch Star Trek Prodigy, it´s awsome

Here be spoilers, I guess

With everthing going on at the moment I really needed a lot of distraction and binged Star Trek: Prodigy season 2.

And it is awesome. Really good. Story wise the best Star Trek I have seen in years, if not ever. It masks as a childrens show, as many good shows do, and it certainly is fun for (older! Those monsters are scary!) children, they just can´t appreciate the details of it all.

This was made by hardcore fans. They watched every show, read every book, comic, leaflet, fanfic that was ever written, they played the games and assembeled the models. Then they put it all together, wrote an amazing script, hired every Star Trek actor they could find and animated it with an obviously much higher budget than season 1.

There are so many easter eggs, you have to watch it three times to even scratch the surface. I certainly didn´t get half of it (which is mainly because I pretty much stopped watching after voyager and only kind of sampled the new shows). There a obvious things, and there are things like naming the new vulcan character Ma´jel. I only got that after looking for fanfiction (as one does) and saw it written for the first time. Speaking of names, theres a humpback whale on the new Voyager, and their name is Gillian (I got that one)!

There´s Catherine Janeway. I love her. There´s Janeway and Chakotay being lovey-dovey like in the series, before it went all to shit in the last season (I was so mad. They were my OTP before I even knew what that was. Seems I was not the only one).

There´s Wesly Crusher. I had a crush on him when I was 17 and I still have a crush on him now when I´m 47, and it´s "just" Wil Weatons voice and an animated character in a cableknit jumper. With me being aro ace that is really an accomplishment (mind, I have a crush on Wesley, not on Wil). His story arc is great!

The story is really good. It´s so tight-knit, that you kind of jump in at the beginning and come out dazed and delighted at the end. The young protagonists are exactly that - young, enthusiastic, sometimes brilliant and sometimes very dumb, carrying the plot with ease (they are also very much traumatised from their life before, but doing their best in all circumstances).

Of course there are also thing I did not like that much, like the Vau N'Akat, who got a bit too much spotlight (kinda like the Klingons in DS9), or the animations, which were, as said, much better than in season 1, but still weirdly clunky sometimes.

But still, a very good series. It´s the kind of Star Trek I want to watch - lovingly written, well acted, weird and funny and sad. And full of hope. No, not just hope, certainty, that it will get better.

Go watch it, I want season 3.

[trekfacility]

watching the final two parter of ds9 omg i could feel garak's revenge through the screen (im an empath btw) especially when he killed weyoun UGHHH i am so emotional at this finale of the series

also promising myself that i will never spoil anything about voyager for myself because guess what i know what happens in the end of ds9 and you know why? because after each episode i like to google "st ds9 [episode name] reddit" and the same thing but "memory alpha" because i just wanna see what people think of the episode and what interesting facts there are Well one interesting fact is that you get spoilers! from both reddit and wiki so yeah that sucks

[marlinspirkhall]

marlin what’s your ranking of Star Trek shows!! Ive only seen 3 so I’m curious which ones you’ve liked

It's star trek, I will enjoy all of it, but that said:

Favourites:

Disco, TOS, Prodigy, Voyager (esp. S5-onwards, I need to rewatch the first few seasons tbh*)

Seen it:

TNG (has lots of moments and characters I loved, but makes a lot of baffling decisions especially wrt Troi*), TAS (I love it and everyone should watch it)

Enjoying but not finished:

DS9 (Up to s6, haven't seen the finale yet because I don't want to watch [s6 finale spoilers])- DS9 has some of my favourite cast and characters but that's part of the reason I was having so much difficulty finishing it bc I love it too much and don't want it to end if that makes sense.

LWD & SNW (seen a few episodes of each but I don't have PP+. Really enjoyed what I have seen of them though)

Not Seen Yet:

ENT (your day will come Hoshi, sorry about ur coworkers tho), PIC (your day will never come)

I haven't seen S4/5 of Disco, any of the TNG movies or the final 2 TOS movies yet. I know I'll enjoy the rest of Disco when I get to it, but I was watching it on Netflix before they took it off the site.

The Unreleased Section-31 Show/Movie: I will be seated. The cinema staff are scared and telling me to leave because it's "streaming release only", but I am simply too seated.

The Unreleased Starfleet Academy series: I can take it or leave it.

TL;DR: I love Starred Trek o7

*SA mention under the cut

There's a TNG episode which is titled "Violations" and it's not the only instance of Troi being put through "mind rape" situations. (Riker also goes through this too and I guess Picard to some extent. I've also heard that they repeat this trend with Troi in one of the TNG movies.)

There's also a Voyager episode with Seven which I found incredibly triggering for similar reasons, and I couldn't get past that episode in my initial Voyager rewatch at all. There are other instances in Voyager which I found difficult to watch so be wary of that going in. It's a really great series in its entirety and I remember once I got to season 5 I absolutely sailed through the rest of the episodes. I wouldn't recommend starting from season 5 because the context of all the previous seasons really does make it better. Voyager also feels like it's intentionally trying to make you uncomfortable with these stories whereas TNG is sometimes playing it for laughs (usually when Riker is going through the horrors).

[deepspacedukat]

Accomplice

Okay, hear me out. I've been listening to the audiobook version of "Butcher & Blackbird" by Brynne Weaver (a romcom about 2 serial killers), and this idea just popped into my head. This is definitely a watered down version of that premise, and so NOT A ROMCOM, but given that my writer's block has been pretty severe lately, I'll take a win where I can. So...enjoy? I guess? This is dark, so be warned.

Cross-posted to AO3 here.

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Chu'lak (ST:DS9) x Vulcan!Reader

[A/N: This is smut, so 18+ ONLY, MINORS DNI!!!]

Warnings: Vulcan/Vulcan sex, Vulcan/Vulcan romance, serial killers, mentions of blood, spoilers for DS9 S7E13 "Field of Fire," mentions of murder, evil being mentally justified as logical, THIS IS DARK.

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Even as he removed the targeting display Chu'lak knew that she understood. They were the only Vulcan survivors. They were the only ones who could carry out this task.

The elimination of emotion by any means necessary.

They would purge the entire station if they had to. They would make the galaxy understand.

She knelt on the meditation mat in their shared quarters and watched as he stowed the display and the TR-116 rifle in their proper places. Her patience was finely-honed after years of dealing with those disgusting, emotional beings.

The ones whose populations they would cull together.

Rising obediently to her feet as he'd ordered her to do after each kill, she slipped the traditional robes from her shoulders, allowing them to pool at her feet as she bared herself for his appraisal.

Even this was logical. They were slaking a thirst - a natural impulse that occurred after each time they snuffed a minuscule fraction of emotion from the universe. The rush of adrenaline was an ancient thing, a holdover from the savage days before Surak brought their people logic. Solving the problem as quickly as it popped up was something she excelled at.

Chu'lak had no doubt that he looked as savage as their ancestors had back in the dark days before logic lifted them from the blood-soaked sands of their planet. He stalked toward her slowly, steadily, as his blood rushed in his veins, hot and filled with desires that required purging.

His large, callused fingers wrapped around her throat as he backed her up against a wall. Her pulse's rhythm sped up beneath his fingertips, and briefly, Chu'lak wondered how easy it would be to crush the life from her...wondered if he could handle seeing the life drain from her eyes as it had been extinguished from the rest of their crew at the Battle of Ricktor Prime.

But he would never do that to her. She was necessary, not only for his plan, but for...himself. For his logic. There was no emotion involved. There would never be - could never be - but he would allow himself the necessity of a companion.

Even as her nimble digits unfastened his uniform trousers and he stepped between her legs with his lok bouncing hard and free between them, Chu'lak dismissed this as nothing more than what logic dictated. The warmth between her legs...the slick dripping slowly down her inner thighs was no more than her body's entirely logical preparation to serve his needs after such exertion.

As he hilted himself in her welcoming depths, he dismissed the strangled sound that escaped him as a completely logical reaction to the physical sensation. He could not tear his lust from his body without fucking her. He could not fuck her without feeling her. He could not feel her without reacting...

And he could not acknowledge the wet sounds accompanying each rough thrust without closing his eyes and seeing the splatter of deep, wine-red blood expelled from his latest victim's body before they collapsed in a lifeless heap on the floor.

A low, dangerous snarl spilled from his lips as he pounded relentlessly into his partner, and she tilted her head to the side just as she knew he preferred. Baring the scar that he'd left on her soft skin with his sharp teeth, she made herself vulnerable to him again - the prey submitting to the predator, admitting freely that her life was his.

The smirk crossed Chu'lak's lips before he could even begin to think of stopping it. He was too far gone. He was lost in his lust and his primal instincts. That's what these were - instincts, not emotions. The taste of her blood on his tongue as he bit down was as sweet and metallic as it always was.

She yelped so beautifully below him - beauty was aesthetic, not emotional - that he couldn't help but shift his grip to her hips. He lifted her easily off the ground, pressing her back harder against the wall as her arms and legs wrapped securely around him.

Her fingernails, while practical and blunt, still bit into his back hard enough to pierce the skin and draw some of his own green life from beneath his skin. Their exchange of savagery made all of this worth it. The planning, the meticulous care that went into the selection of a victim, and the execution of each plan...it was extra exertion outside of their duties, but they did it together. They split the load.

Then she took his load.

There was never any protest. She never questioned his needs. She never would, because she understood.

He remembered the way it started, and mentally he praised her logical reaction to seeing the bulge in his uniform for the first time. The Lieutenant had melded with her afterward, and her reasoning became clear:

He'd proven himself strong, meticulous, clever, resourceful...and his endowment had allayed any sort of doubt she may have had about his worthiness as a sexual partner.

Even as his climax overcame him and he filled her with his seed, she gasped his name and thanked him for allowing her to be of use.

So dutiful. So accepting. She didn't protest when, for the first time, he lifted her from the wall and carried her to his bed without pulling out. He required more than one release tonight.

She would give it to him. She would give him as much as he desired.

Because it was logical.

Because she understood. She was the only one who could.

Next time, he'd give her the rifle...place the targeting display on her head while he donned the secondary one. Next time, he'd wrap his arms around her and feel her blood begin to thrum as she experienced the rush that now consumed him so fully.

Next time, he'd bare his neck for her and allow her to bite him...to taste his blood for the first time.

Because it was logical.

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[goblin-hart]

DS9 spoilers:

A pointless complaint to the void:

Sometimes the forced straight relationships in shows just make me really sad. Currently season 3 episode 8 made me the most upset. I'm not sure why they got so aggressive with in in season 3 but they really went for it.

I guess maybe they thought they did enough interpersonal relationship stuff in season 1 & 2 and they needed outside characters? idek man. It just makes me saaad cause I just want them to hangout in space togetherrr.

I don't even hate straight relationships I just hate them when they're poorly written.

Jadzia

Like: Ah yes let's all watch Jadzia Dax fall for a guy (a mid one at that) who she's known for 12 days. She will now abandon all her friends and her job/interests so she can exist as a thought cloud polycule for 60 years- SIXTY. And she made that decision in less than 12 days...

Fall in love with him? Fine. Even be tempted? Sure. Idk maybe i'm just missing smth.

Odo/Kira:

I actually don't mind Odo having a crush on Kira cause like... she's a huge part of his life and respectfully he doesn't get out much. I dunno how I feel about her liking him back- but we'll see. (I'm still rooting for Quark x Odo and Kira x Dax) I kinda see Kira friendzoning him. Like they definitely love eachother but I don't know if it needs to be romantic- possibly a hot take.