#dream smp goes brrrrrrr
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siedertreestudios · 4 years ago
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My stance as of the last 2 Dream SMP streams (as of Nov. 29th)
Yep, we’re making another one of these folks, time to over analyze pog.
So, the last two streams... New L’manburg is in a bit of trouble, huh? And many people are torn on who to side with, so I figure I’d just lay out a couple of points.
To be clear, I do not completely agree with either side. There’s a lot of grey area, so this is really a collection of thoughts on the matter
1. Tommy shouldn’t have burned and robbed George’s house, and by extension, lied about it.
•This is bad bad news for New L’manburg. Not only is this a misrepresentation of the new government, but it’s also further slandering the Founders of the country. Wether Tommy knows it or not, he is a face of L’manburg, wether he is in power or not. He has put himself in a position where he can’t go around doing stuff like that, as VP or otherwise.
•By lying about it, he further damages his countries reputation, which is most likely why Dream is calling for a larger punishment that probation.
•I don’t think that lying about Ramboo’s involvement was a good move either. I think in the long run, if Ramboo gets involved in the story at large, he will likely betray Tommy, and pull an Eret (go with whatever best suites his interests.) That’s more a read on his demeanor so far, rather than fact, so take it with a grain of salt.
•In the words of our good President Tubbo, “Tommy shut up.” Man’s digging his own grave here, he’s way to head strong and stubborn to be defending himself in a legal setting where he is obviously guilty.
2. There are no friends in politics.
•Tubbo has also but himself in a difficult position by making Tommy VP. Tubbo will very likely have to choose between L’manburg at large and Tommy, which will be difficult in the long run. Needless to say, this will be an emotional rollarcoaster.
3. I understand where Tommy is coming from, but don’t entirely condone it.
•There is one key thing about Tommy that many people tend to forget: he only wants power when he is challenged for it. Tommy displayed literally no intentions of becoming president until Wilbur told him he couldn’t do it, and when he got it, he turned it down. Tommy, more than anything else, wants to cause a little mischief, but for the most part remain peaceful. He cannot excersize that as VP though.
•Burning and robbing George’s house was revenge, plain and simple. He wasn’t happy that George remained mostly neutral and “caused” the conflict with Schlatt (which I disagree with, at the end of the day, Wilbur and Tommy are to blame, at least partially.) Doing that as a citizen? Bad, but not something that would effect the country at large. But it leads back to his position.
•He also has a right to be a little selfish. He’s given up pretty much everything for L’manburg and has been through a lot. Now he’s shouldered too much responsibility tho, so :/
4. Dream needs to take a step back.
•This is a bit more bias of me to say, so just keep that in mind, but Dream going around and doing the same things as Tommy gives him really no room to talk in my opinion. He is the face of the SMP, and the only reason he has not recived the same scrutiny as Tommy is because he’s a. Too strong for anyone to oppose him, b. The head of the SMP, and c. The big baddie who eventually needs a power check.
So, it’s all one big mess right? I know it doesn’t mean much, but here’s what I (a stranger on the internet who’s emotionally attached to all this) would do to get the best outcome in this situation:
If I were Tubbo, I would exile Tommy temporarily, or advise him to take a step back from the government and hand off his title. Obviously, Tommy is competitive by nature, meaning he would fight this. I would lay out the benefits of him not being a government figure: him being able to cause mischief without nearly as much concequences, being able to focus more on his priorities, being happier in general, etc. Tubbo, as Tommy’s closest friend, would likely be the only one to sway him to take a break from this mess. I would like Tubbo out of office, purely because he needs a break too, but taking Tommy out of the equation for a bit would take some stress off Tubbo’s shoulders.
This does leave the problem of him still being able to damage the countries reputation as one of the Founders, but that I’m willing to debate as I really don’t have a clear solution for that problem. Also, there is debate over what Tommy would do with his time away from it all, maybe working on builds or other such things. Regardless, he’ll get in to trouble, but it’s best to minimize damage at that point. Maybe reconciliation with Techno and Wilbur could be possible, as there’s still some underlying tension there.
Again, this is all just a bunch of thoughts. I’d love to hear your stances on the subject, because I didn’t write this out just to be talking to an empty void, so please :,)
Anyways, that’s my thoughts, feel free to add on!!
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notreallyuseless · 3 years ago
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Sometimes, people on Twitter don't seem to have any fun haha. Like people are saying that the fact that Dream imprisonment was staged or that Niki would never let Dream out of prison is stupid/lazy writing and i understand a little bit where they're coming from but when I hear anything Dream SMP, my brain just goes brrrrrrr. Idc if out of nowhere, Dream becomes best friend with Tubbo, i'll just be like haha enemies to bff EXTREME edition haha brrrrr.
Like I wish i cared as much about canon but i don't so too bad for me... or too bad for you ✌✌
(I don't mean any of this in a mean way btw, i just have to tell myself to care about my opinion before others or i'll just be sad 24/7)
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theyre-just-blocks · 4 years ago
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Star Wars x Dream SMP
Pt. 1
I saw some fanart of a Mandolarian Dream and my brain went brrrrrrr
Anyways, here are some ideas I have for a potential Dream SMP in the Star Wars universe.
Let's say this is all during the prequels/originals?? Like between them or somethin.
They'll most likely be all over the place and some of it will likely not be accurate because I'm new to the Dream SMP and I don't have an extensive knowledge of Star Wars but just think about their OUTFITS.
Anywho-
The Dream Team
Dream:
MandolorianMandolorianMandolorian
He's definitely some kind of Mandolorian bounty hunter who's really made a name for himself
Was he born on Mandalore? Mayhbe??
He's got a green beskar armored suit and is known for speed running his bounties
He's just insanely good at his job and usually just takes up whoever's willing to pay him the most
Currently he's being hunted down though by a Jedi and his crew so he's not too happy with it
He doesn't really give a damn about the Empire or the Rebels so he kind of does his own thing
I'm thinking he's part of the Death Watch branch of Mandos because he refuses to take his helmet off
He's actually a decent pilot, ngl, and his favorite weapon to use is his harpoon
He also has a jet pack he occasionally uses and prefers close combat weapons to traditional blasters
Even though he's being hunted down, he enjoys messing with the people who are hunting him down
He gets caught by them though but they decide to team up and create chaos for the galaxy
Dream works for the Empire and does some bounties for them because they pay him a lot
He then convinces George and Sapnap to join him and work for the Empire just because they pay them good
George:
JEDI GEORGE
He has a blue lightsaber
AweSamDude was his master (more on him later)
He managed to escape Order 66 just because he was luckily not around for it (he slept through it)
He was hunting down the Mandolorian so he was safe from troopers
However the lost devastated him and he wasn't sure how many Jedis still remained
Change the glasses into some cool goggles or some shit that help with his color blindness
Currently he's tasked with hunting down a Mandolorian because his master said so?? (I really don't know why he is, this is just manhunt but Star Wars)
He's not too skilled with the Force to be honest :// but he's getting there!!!
Along the way he meets Sapnap and gets him to help him hunt down Dream
Let's say eventually they do capture him but since Order 66 happened, George isn't sure what to do with him
So they form a pact/deal and team up despite their ancestors being enemies
They decide to look for more Jedis and cause chaos for the Empire while doing so
However, Dream convinces them to join the Empire as bounty hunters
But since Geroge is a Jedi he stays out of it as much as possible because he doesn't want to be found out, so instead he continues his search for other Jedis
Sapnap:
Bounty Hunter/Smuggler Sapnap
I'm sorry, I just,,, Han Solo but it's Sapnap
Hot headed pilot who's quick with a gun and has nothing better to do so he joins a Jedi on his hunt for a Mandolorian who likes messing with them
Let's give him a blaster
He was trained by BBH!!!
BBH runs the Badlands, an Outer Rim group who trains smugglers and Sapnap is one of them
He's quick witted and even quicker with a blaster but he wishes he could use a lightsaber
He's the one with the ship and isn't that bad of a pilot tbh (George is definitely worse at it)
He doesn't really care for the Rebellion or the Empire, so long as he gets paid, he's good
So that's why he decides to help George hunt down the Mandolorian, because George is supposedly going to pay him
Once they finally catch the Mandolarian though, they decide to team up and Sapnap wants his money
Later on he agrees to join the Empire with Dream because Dream assures him he'll be paid
He works as a cargo pilot for some time before they let him work alongside Dream to hunt down rebels
Sleepy Bois Inc
Philza
JEDI MASTER PHILZA
Let's say he escaped Order 66 and smuggled out his padawans
He got away and hid from the Empire so he could continue to raise/train his children/padawans
GREEN LIGHTSABER
He's really great with the Force and his lightsaber skills so he's someone to be reckoned with
Hahahahahahaha,, imagining Wilbur's death but instead of a sword it's a lightsaber-
Like Han Solo's death but reversed
Once his padawans were older though he kinda disappeared and went into hiding until he was needed
That's when he showed up because he heard Wilbur was causing some trouble
Eventually I would think he abandons the traditional Jedi ways and becomes a Grey Jedi with white saber like Ashoka's
Wilbur
JEDI WILBUR
At first, Wilbur was all for the Rebellion, he fought alongside the Rebels and helped with his Jedi abilities
I want him to have a yellowish lightsaber
He was basically adopted by Philza and had been training under him for years
Basically he was Philza's padawan
He was a strong Jedi but after falling in love with Sally and having Fundy, he was shamed by the Jedi Council because they aren't allowed to have relationships
So he left the temple and joined the Rebellion with Fundy once his son was old enough to fight
HOWEVER
He decides to switch sides after he starts to lose hope in the Rebellion and is betrayed by Eret
Eventually him and Fundy switch sides and join the Empire later on
When they realize he's a Jedi he's granted a red saber or somethin
And in order to keep his title he completely disregards Fundy and basically leaves him on his own
He takes charge of his own fleet and goes mad with power, taking over planets and whatnot, and is eventually slain by Philza who came to try and talk some sense into him
Technoblade
He was adopted by Philza, but when he did, Techno was a little too old to be trained as a proper padawan
So Philza trained him in secret alongside Wilbur since Techno was Force sensitive
When it comes down to it, Wilbur is strong with the Force and Techno is strong in his swordsmanship
His family was killed by the Empire so he has a strong dislike for them
When Wilbur ran off after Fundy was born Techno stayed with Phil to train Tommy for a bit before deciding to join the Rebels
Soon he became radicalized and realized he didn't like the rebels and their ideals
So he broke off from the rebels and decided he would do his own thing
Most likely became a bounty hunter but he doesn't work for the empire
He felt betrayed when Wilbur joined, but he didn't do anything to try and stop him
Tommy
One of the strongest Jedis Philza has ever encountered
And Tommy knows it so it just fuels his ego
He wants a red lightsaber because it's "cool" but he's stuck with a blue one
Technoblade trained him until he left, shortly after Wilbur left, and a few months before Order 66 happened
After that, Philza continued Tommy's training
Tommy was one of the padawans at the temple who grew up there, but when Order 66 happened, Philza had to get him out
He's very headstrong so Philza thinks that makes him dangerous
He prefers to use his saber more than using the Force
After his older brother's left he was eager to join the Rebellion and Philza let him
Philza knew he'd be hunted down so he told Tommy to join the Rebels while he escaped to the Outer Rim
So Tommy joined and quickly gained ranked, thanks to his older brothers
However, he notices that they start to act different and that they've changed, so relationships start to break
The final breaking point though is when Techno supposedly kills Tommy's friend, Tubbo, after the Rebels find out he's a double spy, which is not entirely true
Tubbo
Tubbo was an orphan who was picked up by Philza and Tommy one day
He wasn't Force Sensitive but they let him stick around anyways
He spent a lot of time with Tommy and not so much the older two
When Order 66 happened, Philza took him as well, afraid of what the Empire might do to him
He helped Tommy with his training a bit but he couldn't do much since he's no Jedi
However, Philza suggested being a pilot and Tubbo wasn't that bad at it
When the older brothers left, Tubbo stayed and did the errands for Philza and Tommy so that they'd be safe and hidden
He was offered a job by some Imperials who thought they could use a pilot like him for cargo deliveries
Thinking he could be a double spy, he gladly took the job and didn't tell anyone
It didn't get him into trouble until after he and Tommy joined the Rebels
Someone found out (quite possibly Wilbur) and Tubbo was interrogated but no one but Tommy believed him
The had Techno execute him, but since Tubbo was somewhat of a brother, Techno made sure Tubbo would survive somewhat
Tubbo did, but suffered several permanent wounds
It wasn't till after Tommy's fallout with his brothers that Tubbo revealed himself as alive to him
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