#dragonspeak

[ffxiv-langs]

Sound changes from Old Elezen to Ishgardian

The sound changes resulting in Ishgardian are inspired by those in various Romance languages, most notably French, which Ishgardian names are based on in the game.

word-final /i/ and /e/ weaken ahambi -> ahambe egdu "west, to the west" -> egdo

simplification of palatal clusters with /t/ and /d/ elidjibus "diplomat" -> elidzibus padjal "blessed one" -> padzal indja -> inda

sj palatalizes tabosjar -> tabošar isja garda -> iša garda

loss of velar fricatives ɣanda "Emperor Xande" -> anda ahalajxta -> ahalajta

vowel realignment erogev "Spoken" -> ɛrɔgɛv tapēt -> tapet tagōn -> tagon

nasals are lost before semivowels andanjel "observer" -> andajel

semivowels disappear in the vicinity of their corresponding vowel andajel "observer" -> andael salawot "Thalaos" -> salaot

final plosives drop off, and stress moves usually to the final syllable patarɔt "judge" -> patarɔ ballag "Allagan Empire (realm)" -> balla

vowels nasalize (this isn't notated in my chart, to avoid having to keep track of over a dozen vowels)

the rhotic disappears when palatalized lugrje "priest" -> lugje

open vowels break urɔlɔ "north" -> uruɛlɔ mɛtšal "Emet-Selch" -> miɛtšal

diphthongs of /a/ simplify ahalajn -> ahalɛn

VlC -> VwC halmaru -> hawmaru

weakening of various consonants sɛn -> xɛn ettsin "westerly" -> etsin nabralis "Dragoon" -> nabrali

Palatalization iksajuɛn "Ixal" -> iksažuɛn ɛruɛgiɛv "Spoken" -> ɛruɛxɛv ɛgdɔ "west" -> ɛjdɔ

Lenition of various consonants tabuɛšar -> tavuɛšar

Reduction of various vowels iša garda -> išə gardə ahalani -> ahalan awtsima -> utsimə

/h/ becomes /x/ or nothing ahə -> axə humar -> umar

diphthongs are reanalyzed as semivowel + vowel sequences miɛruɛlur -> mjɛrwɛlur

affricates simplify mjɛtšal -> mjɛšal

nasals assimilate axalɛmtə -> axalɛntə

final schwa is lost išə gardə -> išgard "Ishgard"

In general, Ishgardian has loaned many, many words from Dragonspeak, which have replaced a lot of original Allagan vocabulary. One example is, well, the word for 'dragon', <drav>, coming from an interpretation of the Dragonspeak nasal as /v/, from which derives Dravan "Dravania", which was loaned into Eorzean.

[estinininininen]

I am thinking about how Midgardsormr doesn't use his Dragonspeak name, can't find the source but I remember reading he keeps it a secret.

I think Hydaelyn gave him the name Midgardsormr.

And not just him. The Great Wyrms and early generations of dragons all have names different than typical Dragonspeak.

He gave his children names Hydaelyn suggested to him. Or the mortal peoples at the time.

He wanted to give them a clean start on the new star.

Even when Nidhogg's brood turned away from mortals, he kept the names, possibly out of respect for his father's sacrifice.

And maybe Hydaelyn was using the names of departed cultures from Etheirys.

There are real-world explanations for the name differences: Dragonspeak wasn't created until Heavensward, legacy Final Fantasy names for dragons like Bahamut and Midgardsormr popped up in-story before that. But the dragon storylines use linguistics for fun worldbuilding and characterization beats a lot anyways.

[applejuiceism]

can yall send doodle reqs into my ask box? i dont bite.. prommy...

[dragonboypaws]

There's a gas leak at work, and no one can take a look at it until Monday. I have no work until then

What a fun way to start the year :)

[dragonlex]

What's your 'rarest' FR item?

Got curious and wanted to know what's everyone's rarest item? Or super uncommon enough that you don't see it every day.

It could be a skin/accent, holiday object, etc, or something completely different!

I'll start off by saying I have 6 of the Pearly Shell gem drops from the Kelp Beds!

[saphira-approves]

DESPERATELY need a Thorn plushy right now immediately

[moogghost]

finished writing a thing with asphodel a day ago and i may post it on ao3 and share here perhaps despite my slight fear . but i'm realising i really should fully elaborate on asphodel lore at some point because i think i have a solid grasp on it now but i haven't really mentioned it here yet bc at most i've said vague things on discord like "her lore is loosely inspired from kirby and the forgotten land bc i was listening to the ost" and "i researched stuff about king arthur for this"

i mean not that it matters as much in the context of the thing i wrote yet bc it's about the fact that it lost its memories and has weird shit going on with that but still

[meracydia-miqo]

FFXIVWrite 2024 - Day 26: Zip

late arr bridge; contains some descriptions of violence

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Streaks of fire, and clouds of soot and ash filled the air. Hurled rocks, disturbed from their rest and sent from earth to sky. It was chaos, everywhere she turned. The roar of a dragon filled her ears, soon drowned out by the high-pitched screech of another. Blood splattered on the ground before her, and the ground beneath her feet shook, threatening to give way as the heaving body of a dragon crashed, and fell.

Ahki could only stand there and watch.

It was senseless. It all was.

She heard somebody’s voice call out to her, but she didn’t move. The sound of cannon fire, echoing around her and making the bridge itself quiver, as if in fear of the fighting happening atop it.

It was all in defence, she knew. They couldn’t let them take the city, couldn’t let the buildings be razed to the ground, homes set alight. But why was it like this? What had driven such a thing to happen in this place?

“Ehk morn an in.”

Ahki held her tome tightly as a dragon approached her, eyes wide, and her carbuncle at her feet. I didn’t, she thought. It wasn’t me. I never asked to be here.

She jumped back as the dragon reared its head to attack, and closed her eyes tightly as she fired off a Ruin spell. She couldn’t watch as she did exactly what the dragon had claimed. Couldn’t watch as she was forced to betray all she had been raised to believe.

She had a duty to fulfill. People relying on her, people who trusted her. She could not get caught in the past. She could only walk forward, no matter how much it hurt, or the depth of the pit in her stomach.

She heard a Temple Knight cry out and fall to the ground, struck down by a wyvern, before the very same got stabbed by a dragoon, hurtling down from their perch, a predator out for prey. She closed her eyes once more, her hair blowing behind her, and ignoring the pain in her feet, searing up her legs. She stepped over discarded rock and stone, the remains of a pillar, now nothing but rubble. A long-lost amulet, split and broken and never to be found. It would fall to the abyss in a hundred shards before the day was done.

“N ahs Alan eil in.”

But I’m not… I do not wish to be��

Ahki could only close her eyes, trying to hide the tears that threatened to fall. To look serious, determined, and unafraid of what awaited. She knew she could not fault the dragon’s words, the meaning coming to her perfectly in a way it both always had and never should have. She was walking in her enemy’s shoes. To hold her tome, and perform summonings like those of ancient Allag, in pursuit of dragons. Who was she, really?

It wasn’t what she wished. It wasn’t what she had set out to do, when she left her home on the southern continent. Yet here she stood, face to face with one who should’ve been a friend.

”Smorn in na!”

[trashheapdragon]

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[quibbs126]

So today I decided to redraw my versions of the North and South Dragons as Cookies, whom I call Choco Creme and Milk Creme respectively

Yeah I basically completely redesigned them, but to be honest I quite like these new designs. I also like the old ones too, but I think I’m gonna more retool them for their normal Cookie disguises. Also I may or may not have stolen the diamonds in the eye thing from @deadshadowcreature ‘s designs of the dragons, which I found recently and really like

With the hair, I was planning on giving them the same hair, but I had two different ideas and I wasn’t sure which one I liked more, so I just gave them each different ones. They’re supposed to just be me trying to interpret their hair/scales/whatever as actual hair

I wanted to draw these guys again because of the Might of the Ancients thing in the recent update mentioning them again, and giving us a bit of lore surrounding them and Dark Cacao, as well as confirming their powers. From what I can gather, their powers are black lightning and the snow/cold, though it’s not entirely clear which controls what. I assume though it’s the North Dragon with lightning and the South Dragon with the snow, just given the corresponding colors. Funny enough, I actually headcanoned that one of them had power over snow, so I was surprised to have actually gotten that right. I said the other one controlled ice since I thought they’d both have a “cold” motif, but eh, I still got one of them, so that’s something

If you want to hear my personal headcanons for these guys, I’ll just tell you here, since I’ve thought about it a bit more since I last talked about them

So Choco Creme and Milk Creme are twins dragons, both being born from the same egg. Their parent was whom I call the Cookie Creme Dragon, a gargantuan dragon who laid to rest on the northeastern part of Crispia, and their body eventually became the Giant Icing Ridge (this was mostly due to me misinterpreting something about Dark Cacao splitting the two apart as being literal and they were once one dragon, then me just working with that idea). Thankfully they are nowhere near the Cookie Creme’s size (at least not yet). Originally I said that Choco Creme was older, but given they hatched from the same egg, I’m pretty sure they’re the exact same age. But Choco Creme still acts like the older one. Also, Choco Creme is a girl while Milk Creme is a boy

I said before that I headcanon the two dragons as being Dark Cacao’s older siblings. Now granted, nothing in the new Might of the Ancients implies that Dark Cacao knew the dragons prior to the story (I feel like it’s supposed to be when he stopped their fighting and founded the Dark Cacao Kingdom, but at the same time I’m pretty sure he had the Grapejam Chocoblade at that point, and as we see in the flashback, Dark Cacao doesn’t have that yet, so I’m not entirely sure when it’s supposed to take place). However, technically there’s nothing that disproves it, so screw it I’m still sticking with it. Basically at some point when the two were young, they were exploring the wilds of the land during a blizzard, when they found this thing lying in the snow, which was a very young Dark Cacao Cookie, unconscious. They were curious about it, so they picked it up and took it back with them. Eventually it woke up and after that point, as it didn’t seem to want to leave, they decided to keep it, eventually becoming their youngest brother, as well as their smallest (when taking on Cookie form, they intentionally make themselves at least slightly taller than Dark Cacao, just to be petty)

Edit: about the whole Might of the Ancients, I watched a collection of the cutscenes, and okay no it seems to all be just before they did the thing that ended up founding their kingdoms, and watching Dark Cacao’s cutscene, yeah I’m pretty sure he’s never seen them before this. So what I say here is kind of invalid by canon standards, but eh. Maybe this is an au or something. Or I’ll tweak the backstory to fit canon better. Or I’ll just stretch things and keep it how I have them

As for whether or not Dark Cacao is a dragon or just a normal Cookie, I’m still not sure, and no one here really knows, all they know is that he and his siblings aren’t syrup related

As for the dragons themselves, Choco Creme is a rather cold individual, known for never smiling. She’s kind of the one Dark Cacao inherited the grumpy attitude from. In contrast to her brothers she is not one for violence, preferring to settle things with words (mostly because she just doesn’t see the point in all that effort). However that’s not to say there isn’t an end to her patience, and when she reaches that, all hell breaks loose. As for Milk Creme, he’s probably the most upbeat of the three, but that isn’t really saying much as the bar for that is that he actually smiles semi-regularly (young Dark Choco had them all beat). But he also can be pretty friendly and looks for excitement. He’s also one of the quickest to violence, whether it’s out of anger or he just wants to. He probably taught Dark Cacao about the usefulness of violence, something he toned down but still definitely finds use in.

I’m thinking now that the two do from time to time take on normal Cookie forms, just to see how things are going in the kingdom. They don’t have that much interest in the prosperity of the kingdom itself, but they like to see how their brother’s running it. Unfortunately recently they haven’t felt much want to. I’ll draw those normal forms at a later date, but I’m thinking they either choose to closer resemble Dark Cacao or they choose to look more like regular citizens of the kingdom, being chocolate and milk based respectively. I’ll try it out and see what works

But yeah, I think that’s it. Hope you like them!

[ffxiv-langs]

Rantpost

> Amalj’aan consists mainly of the speaker selecting, from literally thousands of situation-specific four-part metaphoric compounds, and stringing appropriate examples together to paint a coherent, yet wholly abstract, picture of what he wishes to convey. Like seriously? Literally no language works like this! At least not one I'm aware of, and I'd probably be aware of a language that uses "metaphoric compounds" and "coherent, yet wholly abstract picture" like that. Also, given the number of these compounds, aren't these... literally just words? Like, it might have a regular root/derivational structure, but it'd just be oligosynthetic if that's the case. Regardless, the terms "Amalj'aa", "Paglth'an", "Zanr'ak", "Zolm'ak", etc don't seem to follow the given structure, which is even weirder, and "Zanr'ak" even has a direct English translation that seems to map easily to a breaking of it into "zanr-" and "-'ak" (the ' is confirmed to be a glottal stop). I've chosen simply to analyze Amalj'aa as a Turalic language, for whenever I get around to building that language family.

> The Padjali language is based on the sounds made by the aetheric waves that Padjal receive when the elementals speak to them. Really? Really now. Why would elemental aetheric waves sound like a human language at all? Heck, why would the Padjal even have their own language; they're like, a minority population of Hyur in Gridania. I've switched Padjali, in this context, to be a general language of Gridania, derived from Old Elezen through Gelmorran. And not to mention all the nonsense about Dragonspeak... Those [n] and [h] sounds... (analyzed as ɳ and ħ btw)... idek what they'd be called. They're not a noun class system, as there isn't any form of agreement (i.e. it's not *no[h] s[h]is, it's no[n] s[h]is). They're not a way to derive animate or inanimate senses (i.e. mor[n] "death (of a living thing)" vs. *mor[h] "death (metaphorically of an inanimate object, i.e. battery)") And not to mention how everything in the language seems to have some bullshit philosophical justification. The language has a future and non-future tense, not because languages can just be weird sometimes, but because "the dragons believe that the present is a culmination of everything that has occurred in the past, essentially making the two one in the same". like WTH?

[smol-feralgremlin]

FebruarOC Day 18: Rhys

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Rhys Rhuneson

Illegitimate son of Duchess Rhune. Inherited the trait of dragonspeaking from her.

Dragon racer for his cousin. Dreams of being his own man and racing for himself on his own terms.

Incurable flirt. Well known for courting women for short periods of time before getting bored and dropping them to move on to someone else.

[applejuiceism]

i should get back into drawing mimes .. im not super interested in CQ anymore but!! i still like some of the characters, ive fallen out of touch on drawing the mimes though

this does mean people can send me reqs if you wanna 🦖 if not i'll just draw my OCs

[eorzeansavagery]

The disrespect towards Varis does not end in death.

[dragonlex]

New hatches at High Wind Hatchery! Come check them out here [link] or on the AH!

[vixlenxe]

Sometimes I think Estinien should just be allowed to roar if he gets angry enough.

You know, like a dragon.

Cause he got that yee-yee ass Nidhogg blood in 'em.