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age736 · 9 months ago
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     I DON'T THINK LIKE I'M SAVING THE WORLD .                                             wished by foz
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megamattzx · 7 months ago
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Not what I normally promote on here, as I usually promote my normal fanfics and works in progress, but I wanted to showcase a little bit of another form of writing I do. This group story here is something I've been working on for 3 years, and this honestly does put my creativity to the test as it involves other writers, and forces me to actually utilize a skill that I'm actually used to as this form of storytelling is how I got into writing in the first place.
This fanon server was originally strictly for a group story originally, and this group story may be one of the most ambitious and honestly most unpredictable stories that I've probably ever done. This is a form of writing that forces you to rely on improv so if you're not too keen on that, it may not be for you to be part of the story but you are very much welcome to witness it unfold.
The whole theme of this story is to explore the worlds of Dragon Ball like never before. And this group story will give you the options to either a play as canons if they are available, or as your own original characters all together.
I call this story and it's overall "universe" Dragon Ball New Frontier:
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machimachiicons · 5 months ago
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Send “Press R3” and a character/characters, and I’ll lay the outline for a fight or series of fights and theoretical conditions leading to the R3 Prompt appearing akin to Dragon Ball BT3’s Dragon History, that could happen
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Add “✗” to include Pre & Post-Saga Preamble
Add “What If Saga” for an outline that cannot happen normally
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Pre-Saga Dialogue (characters speak on the saga)
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Pre-Story Dialogue (characters speak on the fight)
Narration (the prologue leading into the fight)
Progression Points (the matchups for each prompt)
History Altering Dialogue (if a character wins without R3)
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Post-Saga Dialogue (characters speak on the saga again)
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thelonewarriorprince · 2 months ago
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*a trickster spirit offers the prince a wish, but it cannot be for himself*
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Vegeta’s wish isn't for himself, but rather, for his son whose future is attacked, whose future is destroyed and needs help to rebuild. He wishes for the survival of his child, of his future wife, and if possible the revival of all those they had lost to the battle with the androids and Goku Black.
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scouterr · 5 months ago
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//hello welcome to my account, this is an Dragon ball Oc I made and well wanted to make a roleplay account for them, I'm a LOSER so what?, INTRO!//
"Hey.. I'm Scouter", 45/Idk? | 🎧,📒
* his hobbies are reading and writing
* he likes talking to Frieza the most, he also works for lord Frieza, raditz is also really fun to hangout with in Scouters opinion.
* Lithoromanic/Genderfluid
* He has a speech issue so he doesn't really talk to other people unless they are close to them
* If he doesn't know you that well he'll use a notebook to talk to you/so n so
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RULES;; //if you do feel like interacting IF this even reaches anybody, here's the rules.//
* No Nfsw or suggestive talking if you are a very young minor.
*Nothing offensive, Racism, Homophobia, Etc. speak to me how you'd speak to a teacher or parent or sum
* my account is for around 15+ at least.
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themultiverseheroines · 3 months ago
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Open Halloween Fandom RP (to all fandoms)
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A plague had been unleashed on the world and has left it in ruins. It was a virus that no one had any ideas where it came from. What they did know it causes the victim to die from an extreme fever and then later reanimate them. Making them into a walking undead corpse who's goal is to eat the living and spread the virus.
Earth's mightiest heroes had faced off against some of the most powerful foes in the world and across the cosmos. But they were ill-prepared for the virus. Before they knew it, it began to spread among them, even the strongest of them couldn't counteract the virus. Not even their medicine could stop it from turning them.
The last living survivors are now hiding out in small communities and away from the cities. While their last great minds work together to find a vaccine. To save what they have left and avoid the virus from spreading across the cosmos.
Son Pan arrived to the zombie infested city and looked down to see how many undead there are. She flew high to avoid being spotted and went to look for the location your muse told her to meet up, with the supplies they have.
"And this is why you need to learn to fly," said Pan to your muse through their communicators. "It will help avoid you being stuck somewhere that is filled with undead and run the risk of getting infected."
((zombie horror RP))
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sporadic-icons · 1 year ago
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Dragon Ball Gogeta RP Icons
Free to use. Likes or reblogs are cool.  Icons are from Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm.  I believe there are 30 of them.
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hazelhavoc · 2 years ago
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Hello! My name is Hazel and this is a post about Dragon Ball! OG, Z, GT, Super, even the Manga and fanmade mangas!
I love to Roleplay I have have specifically made original characters for Dragon Ball that I would love to write about. This is for anyone who can literately write and control canon characters of the show. Though, if you have an OC too, you can put them in as well. But I would prefer generally...you be the CC's (canon characters). I'm more comfortable as my OC's.
I have been roleplaying for 9+ years, so I've got lots of experience.
Rules:
❗NO MINORS❗ I am an adult and am looking for people above at least 18. Please don't interact if you're a minor (though you can boost this if you'd like to help me find someone suitable).
I write a lot, so I'd also like someone who can match me in those terms as well. Literate like me. Roleplays regularly too. Though if you write normally and want to roleplay, I can explain how to do it. (It's easy lol)
Preferably, I would like to roleplay on Discord since in general. It's better. I can make a private server for us too, and we can keep everything nice and tidy.
NSFW is alright! I just don't want it to be the main focus. I do love myself slow burn, romance, and angst. Among other things too. And please tell me what you don't want, so we can be on the same page.
Please don't spam me if I don't reply right away. I might be away, eating, or just doing something else.
Please don't contact me just to ghost me. It's happened before and it's not appreciated. If you really have to go, tell me. If you don't want to rp anymore, just give me a heads up. It's just common courtesy haha.
There will probably be canon divergence from the main plot but if it's the main we won't go TOO far. I'm also down for AU's and the like. As well as starting at certain times, like Planet Vegeta's rule and stuff! As long as you're alright with that.
If do do canon, then as long as we follow the general overarching story, we should be fine.
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Dragon Ball Series I know:
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z
Dragon Ball GT
Dragon Ball Super
Dragon Ball Super (Manga)
The Dragon Ball Movies (all of them)
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Fan-Made Manga
Dragon Ball Kakumei
Dragon Ball Multi-verse
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Thank you for reading it all the way through if you do get down here. If this fit you, that's fine- please boost it perhaps? You don't have to, but it would help.
I've been wanting an RP with Dragon Ball characters and my OC's for a while. But you know how the Dragon Ball fandom can be haha.
I hope you have a good day! See ya!
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peoplcshope · 1 year ago
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Gently he pecks the little girl’s forehead and places her back into her crib, because this was the part of the conversation where he might become extremely talkative and that would probably wake the poor girl up. Because the moment she mentioned that she’d like SOME time with Bulla to teach the girl about engineering and maybe even a little bit of science on the side he remembered that he went through something..that was a little similar to what his mother had in mind. 
“That reminds me, after I defeated the androids, the year following that we were working on getting Capsule corp back on the map, in fact you were incredibly fixated on this because with the company on its feet we would be able to mass produce capsules and that would help restore the world so much faster. We’d be able to ship tons of material, rations and minerals without the need of machines like we’ve done thus far.” He spoke as he found himself a seat, taking a look at his mother with the brightest smile on his face. 
“This was a passion project of yours..more than those all-nighters you’ve spent toiling away at the time machine. The world fate was on your shoulders again but it was different this time, there was no immediate threat or danger so your all-nighters weren’t ‘so bad’ as you called them. Then naturally as your firstborn you suggested the idea of me becoming your apprentice because once I was ready you would make me the CEO of NEO Capsule Corporation.” The smile was still visible but now it was rather sheepish.
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“Though..I was really bad at it for the first couple of months but you were patient and you had so much faith in me because I’m your son, and Grandpa’s grandson SO i pushed myself, studied as much as I could and with a year’s training I fixed my first mechanical prosthetic..your training methods after that…well alittle harsh but it yielded some results. Needless to say Babidi attacked a couple of years after that…then it was black.”
His tone became slightly somber but he wasn’t wrapped in much despair as he used to, or he was probably so much better at hiding it. “The time we spent together with me working under you..it was nice, hard but nice. You and father are really birds of a feather in your fields of expertise.” There was that bright smile once again before his mind then returned towards the topic of Beerus and Whis’ catering expenses. “I’ll try not to eat too much during the picnic. I’ve actually gotten really good at rationing food.”
She looks at Trunks fondly. Even though they come from different worlds, it seems that there's nothing that can halt this family bond. Seeing him get attached to her daughter so quickly makes her feel at ease-- Trunks has saved her life before, she's more than comfortable trusting him with her daughter.
"That's far away in the future, now. Just focus on the present."
She says, not even acknowledging the complicated nature of their time together. For her, this is it. What's happening, right now, in this moment with him... that's all that exists for her.
........ But one day it's very possible that Bulma will be chasing a boy off her front porch with a wrench.
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"Well, if you wanna teach Bulla one day, that's fine by me, but..." Truthfully, she'd like to see her daughter follow in her own footsteps, but she knows that the fury of saiyan blood can't be tamed so easily. "Try not to take up too much of her time with it, alright? I wanna teach her things too. I'll leave the training to you and your dad- I've got a lot I want to do already!"
She always preferred staying in her lab- the physical activities that Vegeta and Trunks get up to have never held any interest to her. Rather, with Vegeta as a spouse... there's no need to know how to fight for herself at all.
"Ahaha... Well, with Lord Beerus and Whis around, I can't slack off! I hire a lot of different caterers for my parties, so it's not a problem at all. I don't mind the price, I can afford just about anything."
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dragonblobsuper · 1 year ago
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[ Hᴇʀᴇ ᴄᴏᴍᴇs ᴀ Hᴇғᴛʏ Wᴀʀʀɪᴏʀ! ]
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Greetings! And welcome to Dragon Blob Super, an RP/Ask blog that's mainly based in many of the gals that had presence in Dragon Ball (Z, GT, Super).
All characters included in the blog belong to Toei Animation and Akira Toriyama.
Asks and DMs are always open for everyone.
In this blog, limitless slob and weight gain is supported, since this Ask account is mainly a Fetish Account.
Asks can involve as many characters as you wish, just avoid making Asks with the subject "everyone", since replies would be way too long to write.
Liked and Shares are always appreciated!
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rpking99 · 7 months ago
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Jump into the Grand Tour
OPEN RP (Adventure)
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"Haha! This is awesome!" Pan Son cheered as she dove through the air besides your muse, grinning
It had been years since the defeat of Omega Shenron and many things had happened. Battles against Gods, against revived enemies and against more sins of the Saiyan race. It was incredible!
And now... Here she was. Alongside your muse, on a new adventure in order to gather a new set of Dragon Balls! A chance to wish for anything, and to explore the universe once more!
Who knows what today will bring?!
(Any of my Dragon Ball muses are available)
(In this timeline, Super takes place after GT. So Caulifla and Kale are same ages as Bra and Pan. And this RP takes place post GT-Super)
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age736 · 1 year ago
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    YOU FIGHT WITH YOUR HEART .                                                       wished by foz
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megamattzx · 2 months ago
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The Second Saiyan of Earth fought so hard to prevent the energy blast from the god Emperor from hitting the Earth as he felt his energy slowly fading when an explosion between the two energy blasts knocked Goku Jr back, causing him to fall towards the atmosphere. Unable to find the strength to keep going, is tired eyes looked towards him as he fell closer and closer to Earth. Seemingly catching on fire for the most part but his durability prevented him from taking any real damage. His breathing became heavier from exhaustion as he struggled to keep his eyes open. He could hear his life flashing before his eyes as well as memories swarming like crazy.
"You can relax, little brother...." He could hear Gohan's voice in his memories. Every time he told him not to be scared. "I can tell you're getting nervous."
The next voice he heard was twin. "Look at all we've lost and all we've learned," he heard Goten's voice. Remembering the vividly wise tone in Goten's voice. Everything they learned from their losses became so painfully evident as he thought about it more.
The next voice however caused the same Prince of Fire Mountain to desperately try to find whatever strength to keep fighting. Any strength that may be harboring within. "I'll stay in your heart...." The voice of Chi-Chi, his Mother, said in Goku Jr's mind. Thoughts of all of his friends and family including his wife and children were swarming Goku Jr like a storm as he heard all of their voices.
"Kaka, we're waiting......" He heard them all say as if they were all calling out to him to keep fighting. All while he was praying for them to just give him the strength to keep fighting. The strength he needed to take Zamasu down. He needed it. Tears fell from his eyes, as the fear and desperation began to sink in. "Waiting...... Waiting......."
"Everyone.... Lend me your strength.... please....." He said as he closed his eyes. But then it happened. A sudden surge of energy came to him. It was almost as if his call was answered. But the only way to accept it was to open the gate. He knew what he had to do... Whatever it took to defeat him... Whatever it took to save them... To return home.....
With a blood curdling roar, Goku Jr gathered enough energy and transformed all the way back into Ultra Instinct sign as he began to fly at great speeds back to where Zamasu was. Only stopping when he was present for the god to see him. Quickly entering a fighting stance making it clear that he wasn't done yet.
Zamasu was enraged by the sight of this. First it was the original Son Goku that would defile his ideals of the world as a god. And now his son was following in his footsteps. His clone and adopted brat. It seems that he wasn't completely broken or beaten. He was going to have to fix that. And he will.
Goku Jr glared as he watched the god emperor stare him down before he spoke again. "I don't think you really get it," Goku Jr said, in his tired yet determined state. "I can't afford to die!" His determination only fuels him as he continued on. His energy only spiked up more and all on Earth and even in the realms of the Gods, and other world could feel his energy. The thoughts of his mother , Chi-Chi, his father, Goku, his brothers and sisters, "Because I will protect my world.... And I will get back to my sons...." The sheer determination in Goku Jr's words and voice were evident as the thoughts of his wife really got through to him and completed his determination being fueled. "AND I WILL GET BACK TO MY WIIIIIFE!!!!!!!" Afterwards he would charge at the god emperor, before punching him square in the face before moving again at the speeds that zamasu could not keep up with before punching him in the back, then in the stomach. "For every comrade," the Saiyan Prince of Fire Mountain said as he persisted in his assault. "Every one of my friends, and all the souls who were slaughtered by your hands!"
And was that he then charged up his energy into his fist as he then delivered a massive punch to zamasu's stomach, both of them to fly towards the atmosphere and crashing down onto the Earth around them creating a massive crater. "SIX THOUSAND DRAGON FIST!!!!!!!!" Goku Jr screamed at the top of his lungs as he crashed down with Zamasu onto the Earth, causing a massive dragon made from all of the energy he had gathered, that flew into the sky before turning and flying back towards the two and hitting Zamasu right in the face, causing a massive explosion.
Everyone could feel the immense energy as they all rushed towards where it came from to see the crater and Goku Jr standing over Zamasu before trying to walk away. Seeing his friends gather around but also various energy rifts showed up as they realized what was going on. Zamasu could be heard laughing. Various different versions of Goku Black, Gohan Black and the rest of the different versions of Zamasu and his cultists. "You idiot...." Zamasu said in his pained laughter. "Can't you see? You sealed all of your Fates, just to beat me... You summoned all of my cult, when you unleashed your power. And ensured my victory, and now you'll never be able to go home....."
It was at that point Goku Jr slowly and deliberately turned towards Zamasu. Was Piccolo and Vegeta feeling the rage coming from him. The same Prince of Fire Mountain only began to walk towards him. "You're going to call off your cult....." Goku Jr said coldly as he slowly but surely approached one of Trunks' broken swords that was dropped during the battle.
Goku Black only scoffed at this as he noticed Goku Jr trying to intimidate him. Who did he think he was? Only to then boast about how Goku Jr had still failed. "Or what?" He clearly said he slowly but surely pointed out a major fact that was going to bite him in the ass. "You can't kill me, boy!"
Goku Jr let him speak before he got closer to the blade, his eyes darkened with sheer amounts of anger, and emotions. He knew that there was only one way to get him to call them off. And the fact that Zamasu can't die gave him more of an excuse. His eyes temporarily turned towards Zamasu. "Exactly," he said before turning to the blade which was still a few feet away from him before walking towards it. "I can't kill you, that is true. But you're going to wish I could...."
The Second Saiyan of Earth was seen walking towards the god in the body of his father. Goku, Chi-Chi, and the rest of his family and friends could see the rage in his eyes. The anger felt immense as Goku Jr picked up the broken blade from Trunks.The fear in Goku Black's eyes as he spoke. "Wait.... Wait.... AAAAACK!!!!!!" A scream of agony was heard for the Kai in Goku's Body as the Clone of Goku violently stabbed him. The pain was unbearable as the adopted son of Goku continued his assault. The relentless stabbings were filled with such rage and hatred. Something that Zamasu knew that even the purest of heart deep down were truly capable of. Each stab was 10 times more painful than the last. And it was clear that the second Saiyan of Earth was letting out all of his anger emotion and pain into every single stab that he delivered. Zamasu only continued to scream in agony, as Goku Jr showed the monster that he could be.
"How does it feel to be helpless!?" Goku Jr screamed in his anger, pain and sorrow. Each stab that he delivered was so damn personal. For all of the pain that this bastard had caused. Every amount of suffering that was inflicted because of this man who used his father's face and name in order to inflict such pain and misery. Goku Black's screams of agony did not stop him, but rather fueled him to keep going. "How does it feel to know pain!?" Each stab and word showcased more and more emotion the more this went on. He knew that he could never kill Zamasu. This particular version of Goku Black that had plagued him for so long was immortal in various ways. But he wasn't deterred in his actions. In fact this is exactly why he was doing this. He was taking advantage of the fact that he can't kill Goku Black now. To not only make him suffer and understand what it's like to go through a small taste of the pain that he caused. But also to let out all of his own pain and suffering out. Coming to terms with the fact that this man turned a once innocent boy into something that he wasn't.
The more this went on the more horrified everyone around became. Too terrified to even move. Goku wanted to stop his son but for some reason, something was preventing him from doing so. "I watched my comrades die in Honor!" He screamed with even more rage in his heart as he continued his relentless mutilation of his enemy. His rage became more and more evident with each attack. "Crying as they were slain! I heard their final moments, CALLING OUT TO THEIR CAPTAIN IN VAIN!!!!"
The more Goku Jr continued to inflict his pain upon Zamasu, the more everyone could see the tears from Goku Jr.'s eyes as he continued on. "LOOK AT WHAT YOU TURNED ME INTO!!!!" He screamed in his fury. Clearly not intending to show any Mercy. The influence of Piccolo and Vegeta clearly evident here but that moral compass was still present. Locked away inside that closed heart of Goku Jr at the moment. The Saiyan Prince of Fire Mountain continued to force the blade in and out of the places that would cause Zamasu the most pain. "LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE BECOME!!!!!"
"E-ENOUGH!!!" Zamasu begged in his screams. His screaming became louder the more Goku Jr continued. "STOP! STOOOOP!!!!!!!"
"ALL OF THE PAIN THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH! HAVEN'T I SUFFERED ENOUGH!?" Goku Jr countered as he continued to slam the blade into the body of his enemy. Refusing to show any Mercy at this point. "YOU DIDN'T STOP, WHEN I BEGGED YOU!!!! TOLD ME TO CLOSE MY HEART!!!!! YOU SAID THE WORLD WAS DARK!!!!!"
The God in Goku's Body was choking on his own blood at this point for the most part as he was coughing it out. "Y-You...." He said as he was being stabbed more and more as he screamed the rest out in pain. "MONSTER!!!!!!" That didn't stop the Saiyan Prince as he continued onward.
"DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT RUTHLESSNESS WAS MERCY UPON OUR-!?" Goku Jr tried to say only to be cut off by Zamasu.
"ALRIGHT!!!! I GIVE!!!!!" He screamed out. "Please... I surrender... You win.... Just Stop... Goku....”
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kibonosentoki · 2 years ago
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◈   TAG NINE PEOPLE YOU’D LIKE TO KNOW BETTER!
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favourite colour(s): Red & Blacks, I also tend to vary it up with blues and yellows
favourite flavour(s): I like really sweet stuff, so like... Strawberries, pineapple, specifically in pie. When it comes to my coffee, I usually go with like, caramel and stuff like that!
favourite genre(s): Comedy, Fluff, Angst, Thrillers, Comedic Horror.
favourite music: I'm into a bunch of stuff, so I won't list the bands lol. I'll say I tend to go for rock, metal, punk, some pop, instrumental/OST stuff and so on
favourite movie(s): The Amazing Spider-Man 1&2, Knives Out, Dragon Ball: Super Hero, Spider-Man: No Way Home aaand... Those are the ones I can think of rn
favourite series: Chainsaw Man, Sonic X, Naruto, Kill la Kill, Soul Eater, Dragon Ball (as a whole, so Z, GT and Super), Supernatural, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Hell's Kitchen and many more lol.
last song: Heaven's Falling Down (Spanish Cover)
last series: The Boys. I LOVE that show!
last movie: Knives Out: Glass Onion!
currently reading: Catching up on the CSM Manga and finishing the Fellowship of the Ring
currently watching: Wednesday, I gotta finish it lmao
currently working on: Finishing Witcher 3 again on my ps5 lmao, and just trying to catch up on drafts/asks/etc rp wise.
tagged by @guthalo (love u)
tagging: @hauntedreality , @trimurtiitm , @asteriskheart , @hopefromadoomedtimeline & anyone that wants to do it! Just take it!
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thelonewarriorprince · 1 month ago
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His turning away is hampered by the fact that the kids tail just. Won't let go of him. She's looking around in wide eyed confusion, edging on panic as bulma nods, moving to try and calm the kid down- without much success.
Parsel has no idea what's going on! The last she remembers was her mom putting her in the pod and shoving a note into her hand and now there's her dad- but weird? And a lady that looks like her mom but younger!
“Woah! Hey! It’s okay, kid!” Goku is the first to notice that she’s panicked in some form, he’s good at noticing these things before more physical indicators show up. He offers Parsel a reassuring and optimistic smile, he may not feel entirely optimistic about what’s transpired, but, the last thing a child needs is to see an adult so depressed and serious. She’s been through a lot, she needed a break, some form of relief.
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Vegeta turns himself slightly so that his child can see his face better and continues to allow her tail to have hold on him, an attempt to soothe all of her pain and anxiety about where she’s ended up “Rest yourself now. There will be questions for you later.” He is gentle with her, delicate, she lost her world and everyone she loved, a tragic loss.
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zenkai-icons · 5 months ago
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🐉 Welcome to Zenkai-Icons! 🐉
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What is this blog?
An attempt to gather all existing RP icon packs for Dragon Ball ( Z / GT / Super / etc... ) characters in one place for easy browsing & archival purposes. Tumblr's search system is often unreliable and it's easy for pre-existing resources to get lost over time. Icons, while often simple to make, can take hours to create, and so I'd prefer to save as many folks' time as possible by hoarding them all in one ( hopefully ) easy-to-navigate place.
Do you make icons, and do you take requests?
I do make icons sometimes! All icons I make will be tagged with #My Icons, including those I bring over from my other resource blog.
I will take requests at my discretion, and without any guarantee I'll fulfill them. I will only create unedited, 100x100px manga icons, as I find capping animation tedious. This also means I'm limited to whatever manga I have access to. If I can't find decent scans for the source, then we're both out of luck. Sorry!
I also made a tutorial showing off some time-saving tricks I use in my program of choice, Krita, for both making and editing icons. You can read that here!
Hey! This set of icons you reblogged is unavailable / these links don't work!
I check and make sure each pack I reblog is still available, even if the OP has deactivated or disappeared. Some file hosting services do not last forever, unfortunately. If you see an icon pack that's no longer available, please message me so I can remove it.
I've made icon sets on this blog, and I don't want them here!
No problem! Just shoot me a message and I'll remove my reblog.
Please remember to check the usage terms of the original uploaders! Credit with respect!
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Thank you to everyone who spent hours of their time capping & cropping anime/manga so we could have fun pictures to go along with play-pretend on the internet! It's greatly appreciated. 💚
EST. 8 / 8 / 2024
Theme is a work in progress!
The character index is a work in progress!
Thank you for your patience!
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