#dragon age the veilguard spoliers

[reading-non-stop]

Veilguard thought with spoilers...

In the quest where you recruit Emmrich and you fight a despair demon, Emmrich says that it signaled Rook out. I thought this was an interesting line the first time I heard it, and thought maybe it would bring something up about Rooks backstory.

But now I'm 1000% sure it's because of Rook's unacknowledged grief about Varric.

[rooklaidir]

Meet Petrok Làidir, aka "Lord of Fortune" Sabateur Rook Laidir!

With family he can trace back to river traders in Starkhaven, Petrok's (PEH-trok) grandfather dreamed big by sailing the Waking Sea up to Rialto Bay, bringing Orlesian wine and Freemarches wares to the masses. He passed the trade and ship onto Rook's father Tormod Làidir (TA-ra-mat' LIE-tirl) and older uncles. When Petrok's father met his mother, Lowen Tremethyk (LOW-en TRE-meth-ek), in her hometown of Wycome it was love at first sight - the only problem being she was a mage, and readying for her Harrowing.

Understanding she was deathly frightened, Tormod helped her escape and they set up a home in Llomerryn's main port town. She quickly fell pregnant, and for a time they had a happy home with Petrok, named for Lowen's grandfather and a Wycome name - though the locals struggle with the names so over time his nickname Rok morphed to Rook, and his surname misread is "Lay-DEER".

With Tormod gone to sea for weeks, even months at a time, and missing the structure of the Wycome Circle, Lowen fell into a personality cult: one claiming to be Qun-adjacent with a faux-arvaarad who tells mages they're special, but takes money to not bind the mages he takes "into his care".

Tormod accepts this to keep Lowen out of worse trouble, but it is a strain on finances. As Petrok ages, he - with the other local louts - tries to help down the docks, carrying sacks and cleaning ship decks, learning what he can of sailing with and without his father's family to earn some coin.

He loves the docks and all the stories of travel, and Petrok's favourite part of seeing his father again is the trinkets he brings - not because of their worth but because of where they came from and the stories they hold. His father brings him books and bar mugs and game pieces even from inland places, and once gave him a small coin from across the ocean that Petrok hopes to spend one day.

Petrok dislikes the fake arvaarad, sensing his dishonesty around his adherence to the Qun, and so learns to play deniable pranks on him. This does not endear him to the fake arvaarad, and so it becomes a game of passive aggressive cat and mouse, with Petrok often roaming the streets to keep out of belt distance.

One day, in his father's longer absence, the tithe gets too much and Petrok tries to steal a sailor's moneybag. He's caught by a watching Lord of Fortune. Petrok has his tale squeezed from him and the sympathetic Lord explains that if you listen closely, the sailor's money wants to pay for food, but coins in a rich man's pouch are bored being idle, so will jump into Petrok's hands - only if he has use for them. The Lord gives Petrok coin to save trouble and young Petrok is enamoured by the Lord with their trinkets and stories. He'd try and help them on the docks the most in exchange for small coin, tales and their junk, and many, like the sailors, liked the scrappy boy and even know to look out for him. With his brush with fame "Rook" is seen as a leader with the local kids, and they all reenact the stories he'd retell.

Petrok doesn't try to steal again until aged sixteen when his father's ship doesn't return. He and his mother convince themselves it went down in a storm and not to hope. The fake arvaarad grows impatient for more money and Lowen won't run away, fearing the Ben-Hassrath despite Petrok's assurances that the arvaarad has no contacts, and it is the Ben-Hassrath's discretion keeping her and the other mages alive. Remembering the Lord of Fortune's advice, when cleaning an anchored yacht Petrok takes just enough coin to cover the tithe. The fake arvaarad is surprised but uses it to his advantage and ups the required payment.

This escalates until Petrok overhears two Lords of Fortune discussing a Qunari artefact new in town and Petrok decides he'd get it first - he plans to free his mother entirely with the reward he imagines he'd get from the fake arvaarad. Petrok arranges a tricky break in to the local noble's estate with his friends, and he almost succeeds in handing it over but is caught, the arvaarad, two cult mages and a friend killed by guards in the chaos. Petrok takes the full blame and is locked away for weeks, distraught he led a friend and his mother's friends to their death and can't help his now directionless mother, until the Lords of Fortune work out what went wrong with a job scupered before they'd started and where that enthusiastic kid went.

They get him out with bribes, impressed with his work, on the proviso he has to work his debt off to them on Lord of Fortune expeditions. Petrok yearns to go but demands to find his mother who they find sickly but still alive. The Lords of Fortune include mages who know some Hedge Mage villages in central Llomerryn, and Petrok agrees to work his debt off to them and the mages as the Lord of Fortune's lackey, visiting his mother whenever he can. With the Hedge Mage villages structure and guidance she is doing much better, but Petrok worries about every alluring grand idea he hears, particularly later when he hears of the Venatori.

Still, without needing to worry about his mother as much he's free to see the world (well, almost) and does with gusto. He soon learns the craft of delving, with particular interest in shipwrecks - hoping to one day find his father's to put that question to rest - and his spiced up pranks come in handy when getting his team out of tight situations. Sailing is in the blood, and after his debt is paid he finds his way on many crews first as a sailor, and accrues many finds of sentimental interest.

He's now thirty-two and has been a fully fledged Lord of Fortune for five years. It took a while to get the kind of finds the Lords of Fortune recognise, on balance it was his escapades rather than treasure that tipped the scale, but he wears his favourites with pride.

He takes a job back in Llomerryn, by coincidence the noble he stole from - byegones are byegones of course and Petrok believes that - but the noble double crosses him and whilst this time he saves his team and kills the noble to prevent the Venatori cult from gaining ground near his mother, he's upset the Lord seniors, and he's asked to leave and keep a low profile for a while...

Rook:

Sympathises with mage freedoms, but sees nuance in Circles

Knows about the Qun and respects those who join freely, but suspects it's as corrupt as everything else. Whilst he does not follow, he grew up battling ideas of destiny and ideal role from his bewitched mother

Also thinks the chantry is a cult

And probably the Crows.

And the mournwatch Honestly anything red flaggy for a cult he yells at - that's the extent of his politics -

- that and "giving coin jobs" (food, nicer clothes, dream villa home on a sea view hill...)

He loves telling stories and will exaggerate but in a way you can pick up and don't mind him doing

He loves new experiences and places so will run out the door for it, thinks sensible people are boring but has learnt to check himself

Once he went so deep in the Deep Roads he swears he could smell the ocean on the other side of the world ("smelt rank, by the way")

He doesn't like to lead as he doesn't want the responsibility (again), but given his effervescent nature people look to him to take charge

He knows a lot about people around him to subconciously understand their strengths and weaknesses which makes him an intuitive leader, so he will eventually do the Hard Thing and lead

Has a strong sense of humour with a huge smile and can cheeky chap his way out of anything

Can make impulsive decisions

Thrill seeker

Can't commit through fear of rejection - major flirt, known heartbreaker to protect himself

[timeforgremlin]

Dragon Age Veilguard Spoilers Cause I Need To Vent About A Choice

The second I saw you had to choose Harding or Davrin I felt in my bones that it was Ashley and Kaiden from Mass Effect all over again. And after learning Assan follows Davrin it pretty much confirms that I’ll always choose Harding. Man BioWare fucking with my feels like this. It hurt so bad and it’ll hurt every time but I just can’t choose otherwise. Goddamn.

[antarees-8]

Veiltober Day 4 Lucanis Don't worry Spite just really wanna talk to Rook.

[seeker-ophelia]

OK BUT THIS

THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN ALL OF DRAGON AGE

THIS RIGHT HERE

Screeches in Elvhen

[buffinbonkers]

(No big spoiler I swear)

Y'ALL. IN WHAT UNIVERSE IS THIS NOT FLIRTING????? The way that I ran here can someone please tell me if I'm delulu. God if it wasn't hot though

Update: stop liking this it’s embarrassing we got played again and I hate this man

[l-lellal3ee]

Davrin (or Taash?) catching my Rook trying to drag this guy to her own room: “What do you think you’re doing?”

Rook: “I’m sorry! I just love him so much!” *sobs*

[swoleas]

harding's quests are genuinely so far the most interesting in the game. and her actress, Ali Hillis, is so amazing in this role, like tf am I doing crying about rocks

[goatsorcery]

honestly the missing choice that pisses me off the most is the fact that who drank from the well of sorrows means nothing, especially when the elven gods are free and loose and could have some influence over the one who drank. “but its hard to account for all the choices of who could have drank from it” — then that shouldn’t have been a choice in the first place. i understand that dai was made well over a decade ago, and the decisions on what choices to include in the game were made long before that, but it irks me that there was seemingly no foresight or long-term plan for any storylines past trespasser.

now — after solas specficially warned against drinking from the well because of the threat of being controlled by the elven gods — that will have no barring on a story where the elven gods have been released and are in a position to control people. i hope at least that the vallaslin removal decision has some effect, though it looks like all solasmanced inquisitors are defaulted as having chosen to remove it. i would hope if the inquisitor (or rook for that matter) is running around with valllaslin of elgar’nan or ghilan’nain that it would matter given what solas said about what the markings originally represented.

[dirthara-dalen]

Tamlen (top image) and three of his children. Aymeric "Dirth" and his fraternal twin sister Melana (middle images, Melana is the older twin). Zavier "Corvus" De Rivia/Arainai. I need to make a post that explains Tamlen's lore in general. been developing said lore since about 2016. Knowing certain bits of his lore does help in understand some stuff in this post and future ones. More beneath the cut.

Aymeric is my canon Rook with my other oc's including his siblings each represent a diff faction. Aymeric himself is a veil jumper. Melana is a Lord of Fortune, she greatly respects Isabela and loves treasure hunting. Zavier's story is more interesting. He ran away when he was 13 after his father, Zevran, repeatably told him he couldn't join the crows to be like him. He ran away to Antiva where he met Viago. He revealed that his father was the one to hit house Arainai in an attempt to cripple the house which Zavier did not agree with. Viago does take him in and he begins going by Coruvs De Rivia.

Still need to make their older brother Thoren but haven't decided what faction he is a part of.

[reading-non-stop]

What if instead of coping with the end of Veilguard, I just don't

[bioticgoddess]

Dragon Age Veilguard Initial Review (Spoiler Free)

For context: I've only made it to the first major decision. If you've gotten there you know exactly what I'm talking about.

1. It feels like most of the dialogue options except flirting or the "happy"/thumbs up are in the sarcastic tone. For me that's mostly fine because I'm playing my Rook as a "Purple" or Sarcastic Hawke type. But there's definitely times when I've chosen the angry, sad, or confused answers and they lacked a real tonal change.

2. This character creator is wonderful and the hair physics make me so happy. There's maybe one NPC hair style I saw that I don't remember seeing in the character creator but that may be a function of having started my game on Steam Deck.

3. Combat is fine. I don't have any real complaints about it honestly since outside DA1 I didn't ever take tactical control of other characters. Note: I'm playing a mage (which reviewers apparently panned). I very much enjoy having 2 weapons as a mage right now (which if not a new class feature is a Crow faction feature).

4. Lack of navigational intuitiveness on the map - specifically between levels. How do I get to that spot over there that I've clearly been to or a bunch of chests wouldn't be highlighted. Crap.

5. The appearance changer (for armor) is great. Cosmetics are minor but the fact that I can look like a member of my chosen faction without having to farm armor pieces is fantastic. It's super minor but sometimes minor changes make all the difference.

Overall I'm enjoying it. Am I concerned that EA front loaded things in Act 1? Absolutely. Are there lore things ik concerned about getting pay off on? 100%. But at about 30hrs or play time, it's enjoyable enough.

[ldthegreen]

The crow companion- I know a lot of you were begging for Zevran and my stance on that I think will still prove accurate, not going to be a companion but prob going to pop up like in da2. I personally thought Lessef from An Old Crows Old Tricks would have been interesting, she could have been a way to diversify the party's age while still being jovial, kind of like Oghren. Viago was never going to be it. I adored him but he was the main character for a short story and typically they don't get even more (with the exception of Cole and now Lucanis) also, he's literally a talon (and now a really high up one). That would be like if you got a merchant prince in your party. The later also goes for Andarateia but I was hoping so badly that it'd be her. She's fascinating and I would romance her so fucking quickly it's not even funny. That being said I think Lucanis Dellamorte should prove incredibly useful and intriguing. He's the first talon's nephew and a renowned crow in his own right. I really didn't think it'd be him because that's like having a DND background with legendary adventures only to start at level one.... I have no idea how that's going to be handled but I look forward to finding out.

[seeker-ophelia]

YO WHAT THE FUCK

Mega spoilers below

[buffinbonkers]

AND ANOTHER ONE

Even my rook does a double take

(No major spoilers)

[da-mage]

I completed veilguard!

And now I've got the feels... fuck