#double savage wasn't it GMMTV!

[respectthepetty]

I've written it before and I'll write it again — Perth and Ohm should've been paired together because they would've dominated.

I truly believe that.

And I'll never forgive GMMTV for this one.

[gaiaxygang]

scary relationship chart

I made a messy visual for this a few months ago but here I will attempt to put it into words!!!

If you've spent enough time around Thai actors you've probably realised a lot of them happen to know each other. I like making connections drawing lines and once I fell into a hole because of these 6 20something year olds.

Ohm Pawat, Nanon Korapat, Chimon Wachirawit, Perth Tanapon, Saint Suppapong and Mark Siwat all know each other in one big circle. Here's a short video showcasing it (this is not as detailed as my post will be but it has the rough idea).

(It's hard finding a place to start when it comes to a group of 6.)

1. Saint, Ohm and Chimon went to the same high school, Assumption College (Thailand). Ohm and Chimon are in the same year, while Saint is 2 years above them.

Ohm and Chimon became close friends here (I don't have any clips where they mention this but it's evident from how they act). I'm unsure when exactly they met but they've been friends for a very, very long while.

Saint wasn't close with them because he's older but in School Tales The Series interviews he mentions sometimes seeing Chimon around campus. In one of these interviews he also said they could get closer by talking about football and he was relieved to be working with an old schoolmate.

Saint and Ohm would later attend the same university (SWU) and I don't know if they were friends. Everyone here except Chimon actually went to SWU so this doesn't mean much 😭

2. Nanon and Chimon met while filming Senior Secret Love: My Lil Boy season 2 in 2016. Nanon was in S1 but Chimon wasn't. They got along quickly because they were close in age (they're both born 2000, even though by Thai conventions Nanon is younger). They would go on to film several series together in the next few years.

Similarly, Perth and Mark met while filming Please... Siang Riak Winyan in 2017. Mark was the first to approach Perth and became Perth's first friend in the entertainment industry. They also spent more time with each other because their characters were close.

Chimon was also in Please, and this is where he met Perth and Mark. The two weren't super close with Chimon since they didn't share scenes.

3. Mark and Ohm became friends in SWU. There are old videos of Ohm being annoying (affectionate) around Mark.

In Ohm and Mark's first year at SWU, Ohm met Perth (still in high school). According to a Double Savage interview, they'd met through a mutual friend. I am unable to find anything that confirms or denies this but I am almost certain Mark introduced them. They became good friends afterwards and have described each other as like blood brothers.

(Ohm thought Perth would be arrogant because he was already an established actor by then but he was very polite HAHAHAHA he is soooo cute 🫳🐯)

Also this isn't really in chronological order but Nanon and Perth met in SWU in 2019 as well!

4. In 2018, Ohm, Nanon and Chimon were cast in Blacklist. When they were filming the pilot, Ohm and Nanon met for the first time. Chimon helped to introduce them (having been friends with both for years at this point) and when Nanon saw Chimon speaking casually to Ohm, he started doing so as well.

(Nanon is a year below Ohm and Chimon, but he's close enough to Chimon that he speaks to him like they're the same age. Ohm has mentioned seeing Nanon skipping class in uni wwww)

Perth and Mark met Saint while working on Love By Chance. Perth and Saint were paired together. I'm not certain about LBC because I don't want to touch anything related to it but there seems to have been a LOT of promotion featuring the full cast.

5. Perth and Chimon met again at some point, likely around when Perth joined GMMTV. They were both close with Ohm and Nanon. Perth was asked early on who he'd want to work with in GMMTV and he answered P'Ohm, P'Chimon and Nanon 😊🫳🐯.

TL;DR

Ohm, Chimon and Saint went to the same high school. Everyone except Chimon went to the same university. Nanon-Chimon, Ohm-Nanon, Perth-Mark, Saint-Perth met through series. Ohm-Perth were introduced by a mutual friend.

(I don't know anything about Nanon, Mark and Saint. Half the industry probably knows Nanon but I don't know if they're friends with him.)

What about the shows?

Aside from the aforementioned shows, many of them were also cast in the same series.

- Perth and Mark were cast as a couple in The Stranded. They were very comfortable with each other by then so there weren't many problems. They even improvised a kiss! Perth-Mark did some promotion together (Pepsi ad and Mint Magazine video for example) but went their separate ways career-wise after.

- Around the same time as Blacklist, Ohm and Chimon were both cast in He's Coming To Me as friends.

- I don't know WHEN because My Precious production was SLOW but Ohm Nanon and Chimon were all cast in the movie. The series version was also filmed at the same time.

- In 2021, Ohm and Nanon were paired for Bad Buddy. They did around a year of promotion before, well, divorce.

- Saint and Chimon were cast in the same episode of School Tales The Series. This was done before PerthChimon became an official GMMTV pair but I find it very funny that by the time it aired PerthChimon had already done an event together. This twitter thread has links to videos and interviews with Saint and Chimon.

Mark was also in School Tales, but in a different episode.

- Ohm and Perth played brothers in Double Savage. Given what their characters are like I would hope Ohm and Perth didn't put TOO much of themselves into it but I presume their friendship helped with bringing their characters to life.

- I've done a separate PerthChimon timeline so I won't talk too much about them but they became an official pair around mid 2022, likely also when Perth joined the cast of NLMG.

- Music projects! Perth and Nanon have been in Musicon, both Japan and Jakarta. Perth was also a special guest at an Ohm-Nanon fanmeet, where he performed with Ohm.

😬😬😬 typed this out on a whim so I might be missing things. The 6 of them make me so (TEARING HAIR OUT) genuinely. Hoping for a Perth and Nanon project next year 🫠🙏

[waitmyturtles]

Have you noticed whether or not you are paying more attention to certain technical aspects of the BLs you're watching, and if so, which ones?

WKA, my friend! Thanks for the ask!

If I may overgeneralize your question: I think there are certain technical aspects I look for in any show. I love shows from everywhere in Asia -- Thailand, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, etc. -- and I know that each of these countries has certain filming styles, certain dramatic construction styles (like the Thai lakorns, the Japanese asadoras and taigas, etc.) that they'll stick to for the kind of show they are creating, and certain takes on well-known genres, like South Korea's K-dramatic takes on romance, for instance.

I think for me, the technical aspect that is the most important for me of any show is how sophisticated the screenplay is. I may go so far as to say that while I like a direct story, while I recognize that a successful story has a beginning-middle-end framework -- that I am probably a snob for screenplays that mess with that, and still end up with a successful story and ending. I like when a narrative framework gets successfully messy, if that makes sense.

For instance, I recently rewatched A Tale of Thousand Stars for my Old GMMTV Challenge project. ATOTS was the first drama I watched by Aof Noppharnach. He's my fave showmaker now. But back then, when I had very little familiarity with Thai dramas in particular (I believe my first watch of ATOTS was fall of 2022) -- I wasn't exactly sure what made ATOTS great, comparatively, with other dramas from its same field.

And now I know. ATOTS in particular leaned VERY heavily on flashbacks. We see in a later show like Double Savage, flashbacks being used annoyingly and not at all successfully by way of contributions to a sewn-up narrative. It was like, in Double Savage, the flashbacks were only used to try to create drama, where there didn't need to be artificial drama at all.

The flashbacks never felt artificial in ATOTS. Were there A LOT of flashbacks? Could some of them have been made more linear to the narrative? Definitely. But considering that our two protagonists, Phupha and Tian, were REMARKABLY bad communicators in ATOTS -- to use flashbacks as a means of the characters communicating to US their inner thoughts and feelings ended up being useful. P'Aof was deft in using this device, and used them successfully.

(You know me well, WKA, so let me say that another technical aspect that I look for in BLs is excellent smooching. I'm shallow, what can I say!)

[magicaldreamfox1]

My GMMTV 2023 Commentary & Rating

disclaimer: this is purely based on my opinions and subjective tastes so if u disagree with me that's good for u pls don't be rude to me abt it thank u <3

also! my rating is based on vibes, whether or not i will actually watch a show largely depends on the final trailer!

let's get into it!

Enigma

plot keywords: horror fantasy, mains: prim/win

do u know how mad i am abt this. i'm a win anti first and a human second. but i am also a fucked up schools stan first and a human second AND prim is in this . so i'll literally have to watch it i'm so mad 😭😭😭 it looks SO GOOD 😭😭😭😭

my rating: 8/10

A Boss And A Babe

plot keywords: bl, boss/intern romance, mains: force/book

this looks lame i'm sorry 😔😔😔 i don't like the whole boss/intern thing and i also can't take force seriously as a "serious" boss he just sounds tired </3

my rating: 3/10

Find Yourself

plot keywords: straight romance, boss/intern romance, age gap relationship

even worse than A Boss And A Babe. straight, boss/intern AND age gap??? this is dreamy repellent

my rating: 1/10

Double Savage

plot keywords: rivalry, fighting, family drama

this one is a difficult one. it's basically just 10 Years Ticket the remix and like why. we didn't need this. foei's evil smile in the trailer tho? yeah that's iconic that's history. for this it'll depend on timing & the final trailer i think

my rating: 5/10

Hidden Agenda

plot keywords: bl, dating help, secret crush, uni bl, mains: dunk/joong

it's a uni bl. what more do i have to say. it just seems a bit boring to me ngl, it feels like a mashup of Star In My Mind and FUTS and i've just had enough. also can they give joong a role that shows emotions. please???

my rating: 3/10

23.5

plot keywords: gl, secret admirer, uni gl, mains: milk/love

fucking finally a gl!!! the trailer looked fine, a bit boring ngl but we take what we can get truly gls are allowed to be a little boring for now. now if gmm won't let them kiss in this show i will personally fly to thailand to set gmm hqs on fire. so just putting that out there watch ur fucking back gmm. u're on THIN ICE

my rating: 7/10

Because You're My First Love

plot keywords: straight romance, first love, love triangle, mains: prim/dew(/neo)

do u know how long it took me to find out the english title for this. anyways looks boring as hell! not even prim and neo can save this. and i don't like dew so... next!

my rating: 1/10

Cooking Crush

plot keywords: bl, cooking, uni bl, mains: off/gun

it's an offgun bl what else is there to say truly. now controversially i don't like it and i think it looks boring. this cutesy fluffy plotless type of plot is just not really my thing anymore i think? ik they'll do well tho so love and light

my rating: 4/10

Wednesday Club

plot keywords: ensemble cast, friendgroup, drama

now this???? yeah i was actively tuning in. i love drama i love fucked up situations i love people making bad choices and i love people doing worse than me. i wish joong wasn't in this and also what's up with that fakeass laughing in the trailer???? and also i don't understand why they used that music in the trailer? the trailer in general could've been a little better but i'm putting my faith in the final trailer it's gonna be good i'm manifesting it

my rating: 7/10

Last Twilight

plot keywords: bl, visually impaired person/caretaker, mains: jimmy/sea

LISTEN i love jimmy but this is a no. first of all i don't like the jimmysea pairing (not for any rational reasons but oh well) and i also don't like these kinds of slice of life existential plots that they get here and also had in vice versa. so i will be skipping this sorry jimmy </3

my rating: 3/10

Loneliness Society

plot keywords: straight romance, lying about a relationship

looks boring. i don't really have anything else to say abt this one.

my rating: 1/10

Only Friends

plot keywords: ensemble cast, friendgroup, sort of bl, drama

now THIS??? all the fucking awards there are. best show that was announced this year everybody else go home. it's gay, it's messy, khao and neo are serving severe cunt what else could u possibly want. now idk why they had to throw in forcebook and mark. but not even they can drag this down for me it looks SO GOOD. ask me abt my ideal only friends casting

my rating: 10/10

Faceless Love

plot keywords: straight romance, face blindness, rich/poor, love triangle, mains: dew/kao(/peach)

this is not how face blindness works. this whole show is so embarrassing it's funny. i can't take it seriously. also did she literally cure his face blindness at the end of the trailer. no words

my rating: 1/10

Dangerous Romance

plot keywords: bl, high school, enemies to lovers, rich/poor, tutoring, mains: chimon/perth

when i said i want chimon in a bl this is not what i meant. idk it just didn't hit.

my rating: 5/10

The Jungle

plot keywords: ensemble cast, fuckboys, drama

NOW THIS???? U HAVE NO IDEA HOW FUCKING MAD I AM ABT THIS. first of all. the trailer for this show FUCKS so hard. and yet i know this is gonna be a terrible show. AND fucking krist is in it. WHY. i'm so mad i'm so fucking mad

my rating: 2/10

Midnight Museum

plot keywords: fantasy, magic, mains: gun/tor

there really is not a lot to say abt this plot wise but my god does it fuck hard. the cast is excellent (they already had me at namtan), the visuals are amazing, the concept looks so good. i'm so excited for this

my rating: 10/10

Our Skyy 2

plot keywords: ensemble cast, previous bl couples, special episodes

there's not much to say abt this. it's our skyy 2 it's self explanatory. as for the couples themselves: i will begrudgingly tune in for patpran, depending on the ending on the eclipse i'll decide whether or not to watch akkayan, puentalay no, nuea/kluen probably not, never let me go pondphuwin idk yet depends on whether or not i'll watch the show and how it ends, phuphatian maybe, my school president guys probably not and a boss and a babe forcebook no

my rating: 6/10

Beauty Newbie

plot keywords: straight romance, my id is gangnam beauty remake, mains: baifern/win

so we've reached the final flops. yeah nobody moved. when will win be locked away in gmm's basement. we've seen enough of him.

my rating: 1/10

The Interest

plot keywords: straight romance, debt collector/indebted, violence, main: bright

nobody moved. why are they making this. what is the plot. bright needs to stop being handed main roles i'm so serious.

my rating: 1/10

Final Reflections

overall it's a very mediocre year ngl i was a little disappointed. there were very few shows out of the 18 that i was enthusiastic to watch but otherwise it's all very meh. i hope the final trailers will be better tho i'll stay tuned for them!

[yourstormthlaylirahh]

My thoughts on every new GMMTV trailer:

Enigma: cautiously hopeful. It looks very interesting and intense, and I think I will be able to handle the amount of horror in it though it is a genre I am nervous about because I scare easily. I'm just not a fan of student teacher romances, but I'll withhold judgement till after I see it (judging whether I like it. Not judging you if it's a trope you like, whatever floats your boat).

A Boss and a Babe: it looks silly and ridiculous and fun. I genuinely didn't think Forcebook would get another chance to star together and I'm so so happy they did, I love how they play off each other. Oddly I am fine watching boss employee relationships even though the student teacher ones make me uneasy.

Find Yourself: on the fence about this one, though I'll give it a try for Non and Earth. The tropes they are leaning into for comedy in the trailer aren't my favourite and I'm not a fan of them seeming to play drunken sex for laughs, but when the trailers tone shifted to be a more serious examination of age gaps I became intrigued. I'm just not sure I trust how this show will handle that subject in all its complexity.

Double Savage: very excited to have Ohm playing a darker character (I know we still have 10YT this year too). I think he will absolutely kill this role, I love his acting and think he is superb. I also think Film is fantastic and I'm excited to see her too. Looks like lots of lakorn crime type tropes, so that should be fun.

Hidden Agenda: I'm unsure about this one because while I like both Joong and Dunk well enough I wasn't enamoured with eithers' acting in Star and Sky, and they had the most disappointing kiss my god. This looks like the plot is more interesting at least than Star in my Mind, and I love a lot of the side cast. I'm hoping they just felt awkward acting together at first, and they will seem less stilted in this. I'm pretty 50/50 on whether I've liked the director's previous work so this could go either way.

23.5: I'm so so excited for this, it's happening guys!!!! MilkLove GL let's go sapphics let's go! I need this to do well and hopefully herald more long-form GLs. I adore both actresses and love them together as well. I'm expecting very 2015 BL vibes and fluff, and honestly not expecting more than a peck of a kiss (if I'm wrong feel free to point at this post and laugh at me I honestly would love to be wrong), but luckily I adore fluff and softness so I'm going to enjoy it anyways. The yearning! The sweetness! I'm over the moon

Phro Thoe Khue Rak Raek: I think I would be interested if this was just a movie but I'm not sure I have the attention span for a full drama about reminiscing and reconnecting with am old love. I'll probably skip this one unless something really catches my attention. Neo was really cute in this trailer though.

Cooking Crush: I am giddy about this one. I felt so sad Off thought him and Gun couldn't get roles together anymore because of their ages, and then here they are and the trailer looks really funny and cute! I'm also really excited they seem to have reversed their dynamic and Gun is playing the more asshole one, he definitely has the acting range and hopefully this means if OffGun continue going forward they will get to change their dynamic a bit more.

Wednesday Club: I'm not that interested. Honestly don't have much to say about the trailer, beyond Piploy and Jane look so so good! Please I'm already gay etc etc

Last Twilight: I'm definitely the most excited for this one! The plot looks interesting, JimmySea were excellent together in VV, and it's P'Aof who I trust implicitly. It is bringing me back to Want to See You (vdrama), which I overall enjoyed but I need this one to be less of a soap opera, I couldn't handle that twice. Also loved the music in the trailer. Also Jum ❤️ I also think Jimmy will be fun to watch playing the bad boy role, and he is super adorable which is a huge bonus. I'm not knowledgeable enough about adult onset blindness to really judge that aspect of the show.

Loneliness Society: While You Were Sleeping let's gooooo! My third most anticipated, I'm so excited for this! Morally grey and complex lead? With relatable issues around age and loneliness? Sign me up! This looks phenomenal. And I screamed when I saw Jan, I love her so much ❤️ though I am disappointed she got no main roles this year (side note Thailand is doing cherry magic what?????).

Only Friends: holy shit!!!! Second most anticipated and only trailer I've rewatched multiple times because there's so much going on! It's going to be messy as fuck and I'm going to eat up every minute! Can't believe we get Forcebook a second time next year, and KhaoFirst as well. The song they play at the end is fire 🔥 P'Jojo directing AND the cast is stacked!? Book Force Khao Neo Jennie First Mark and Piploy! I'm stoked

Faceless Love: eh. Dew's character really pisses me off, and while I have warmed up to rich asshole business owner types in the past (Poongduck, Business Proposal) my real life dislike of those types of people make it one of my least favourite archetypes and I'm not convinced I'm going to watch. I'm curious to see the reactions of people with face blindness to this as well.

Dangerous Romance: oh this look fantastic! I love this type of messy, high angst enemies to lovers. This is going to be so much fun, and I really liked what the director did with Love Mechanics so I have really high hopes. Plus Chimon is one of my favourite actors, and I would already die for Sailom - he's such a mouthy little sass master.

The Jungle: don't really understand what's happening because there are no subs, though it looks like a spiritual successor to PS I Hate You. Big cast, big drama. I'll watch it no matter what because it's one of my girl Mild's only roles next year and Lookjun's only role. Big downside is having to put up with watching Krusty.

Midnight Museum: not much plot was revealed in this trailer, however the creepy fantasy vibes are immaculate and I'm excited for this. I'm very curious about Gun's character's cryptic past, and hope it's suitably angsty so he can flex his acting, because he is phenomenal! Also Ploy ❤️

Our Skyy 2: oh my god! Special episodes for The Eclipse, Bad Buddy AND A Tale of Thousand Stars? Especially when we had all basically given up on an ATOTS special?!?!? Couldn't be more excited! I'm excited for everyone really (other than another Star in my Mind special lmao please let it fade into obscurity). If Never Let Me Go is as good as I anticipate (and I trust P'Jojo with my life) it will be great to see their characters again as well. My only disappointment is Forcebook is not reprising AkkTheo :( As one of the handful of people who really enjoyed Enchante I just want my Enchante special goddammit!

Beauty Newbie: I really don't think I trust how a plot about someone who's had plastic surgery and is now gorgoeus (let's be real Baifern is fucking ethereal) is going to handle issues like beauty standards. 😬 As someone who definitely falls outside the line of 'acceptable' look wise due to acne, weight, etc I'm not feeling this plot. The only reason I'm torn is my love of Baifern, so we will see if my love for her is enough to give this a try. And maybe I'm wrong and the plot will be amazing and profound, but I have serious reservations.

The Interest: eh. Whatever.

All in all I'm really looking forward to this lineup and think it will be a fantastic year. The ones I'm not liking based on the trailer I'm realllllllly not liking but I can just drop them of not watch.

Side notes: I was really worried Home School had been cancelled, it was one I was really looking forward to and I'm relieved it was only pushed back.

Also does anyone know what Miss Gigie is up to? She doesn't seem to be in anything upcoming other than Warp Effect and I miss her :(

[mineonmain]

Have you seen the GMMTV 2023 trailers? Any you like? I am so ready for ‘only friends’

oh MAN have i see the trailers?? I've seen i'd like to say a good majority of them, although i don't actually know how many there are lmaoo. i've been doing nothing all day except spamming the discord with links and screaming about the upcoming shows. so let me just list out the trailers i've seen, and then i'll just say in a line or so what I think:

Midnight Museum - it's giving Night at the Museum meets Hotel del Luna, and that's all I have to say about it. Not my cup of tea, probably won't watch it, Gun stans go ham

Double Savage - YES. YES. YEEEEEEEEES. Besties Perth and Ohm are in a series together as brothers, and there's the age old conflict of family vs moral civic duty, heart vs mind, and I wouldn't trust anyone else to carry it out. Ohm and Perth are probably some of my favourite actors, and it's such an incredible way for them to flex their acting chops, also knowing they're friends and could trust each other when acting with one another. LETS GOOOOOOO

A Boss and A Babe (BL)- what is this title. What in the wattpad, Office AU, boss-and-secretary-but-Make-It-Gay headass is this. I'm not a ForceBook person anyways, so I will not be watching this cheese cringefest, as long as they're enjoying themselves. it's a no from me dawg

Enigma - this is for all the horror/psychological thriller girlies out there. I won't be watching this bc i'm not good with horror, but i'm excited to see Win in a role unlike any he's played before, full of enigmatic (hehe) charm.

Last Twilight (BL) - It's giving that Me Before You, Bucket List before going blind, fault in our stars energy, honestly I'm pretty ambivalent about it. JimmySea are cute together tho

Wednesday Club - messy messy messy. a group of friends who don't like each other and all full of *secrets* because it's cool to not be a nice person i guess. everyone needs therapy.

Dangerous Romance (BL) - gotta say i'm surprised by this, i have a love-hate relationship with this one. don't like that it's set in highschool, wasn't expecting perth to be in another BL, wasn't actually expecting it to be with chimon despite the rumors. however, Perth is so good at this, he and Chimon are such good friends, I might just give it a shot. As much as I love Perth, Chimon is shining in this one. Hard to go wrong with a classic enemies-to-lovers

Hidden Agenda (BL) - This feels so bloody basic and derivative. Dunk is playing a nerd (except he's hot), Joong is reprising his role from Star and Sky, it's giving reverse 2gether, Podd and Guy are There for some reason??? I really like Joong but give my man some better roles. I'll still watch it tho

The Jungle - GMMTV said 'Diversely Yours' and then gave us a multi-starrer of several toxic men being the actual worst, and a bunch of women looking at them going 'I could fix him', and then gmmtv said 'here you go here's your diversity and representation'. No comment

Cooking Crush (BL) - OffGun Chef + Doctor AU. I can't particularly see a plot here so far, and I feel like offgun's strength lies outside the romcom genre, but that's just me tee hee ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Probably good mindless entertainment for babiis

Beauty Newbie - Remake of My ID is Gangnam Beauty. I don't have anything to say about this

23.5 (GL) - FINALLY gmmtv's first proper GL, and it's with MilkLove (as they deserve!!!) it's giving that soft sapphic pining and love, full of euphemism and metaphor, and i can't wait to see how it turns out. if we can have main BL with a side GL, then we can have a main GL with a side BL, that's equal rights babey

Loneliness Society - Remake of While You Were Sleeping. Again, as with all remakes, I have nothing to say

Our Skyy 2 - PATPRAN!!! PHUTIAN!! ITS THE RETURN OF OUR KINGS!!! (i'm also excited at the implication of Never Let Me Go finally finishing filming soon so that it airs before this one, i've been waiting for it all year esp since it was apparently supposed to air this september) And finally...

Only Friends - The ultimate mess. I made a flow chart just to be able to try and sort out the mess of relationships just in the trailer, and all I can say is I know this show is going to be a wild freaking ride, from start to finish. Neo is the drama, KhaoFirst have the best chemistry in the cast, and this is going to bang. Period

TLDR I'm most excited for/most likely to watch Double Savage, Our Skyy 2, Dangerous Romance, Only Friends, 23.5, Hidden Agenda

(I know this long ass post isn't what you asked for, but it's what you're getting)

BONUS

Never Let Me Go (Finally airing in 2023 hopefully)

Moonlight Chicken (Finally airing soon, either end 2022 or early 2023)

The Interest (new movie with Bright and Yaya)