#dorthraki

[jonquilspool]

today's wild dany theory is that she does the city-destroying thing with mereen not king's landing and spends the rest of the story trying to atone. then eventually she gets her red door and lemon tree after saving westeros <3

[iceandfirejonerysdiscord]

Hello! Any fic recs that begin straight from the end of the books? (Dany with Drogon in the dorthraki sea)

Hi Anon!

That is a tough one, but here are the fics we came up with relating to that criteria:

Foreign Affairs by @tomakeitbeautifultolive & @thescarletgarden1990

Say You'll Remember Me by RoseAlenko

where ruin also exists by @girlwithakiwi

a shadow for the splendor (let the profane tremble to ask) by @girlwithakiwi

Love Comes From the Heart by allegre

A Wolf in The Sand by @notpmahlem

If anyone else has Jonerys fic recs that meet this criteria, please add a comment.

Thanks for the ask!

[graveyardcuddles]

I'm sure this has probably already been pointed out, but it's interesting to think about the historically significant Targaryens who had the same name or a similar name to Daenerys.

Daenys the Dreamer - Saved all of House Targaryen from the Doom with her prophetic vision. A woman whose dreams came true. Could be argued is the very foundation of House Targaryen even more so than Aegon I because Aegon could have never conquered the Seven Kingdom if his ancestors were wiped out by the Doom.

Princess Daenerys Targaryen I - Firstborn daughter of Queen Alysanne and King Jaehaerys. Early walker, talker, and reader. A lively, laughing child, often mud-spattered and grass-stained. She died young, but Alysanne fought for her to become Jaehaerys' heir over her younger brother Aemon and to rule as Queen in her own right.

Princess Daenerys Targaryen II - Daughter of King Aegon the Unworthy and Queen Naerys. The Daenerys that our Dany is named after. Born 19 years after her older brother. Mother was trapped in an abusive, unloving marriage. Said to have loved Daemon Blackfyre but set aside her personal desires for duty to marry Maron Martell to further solidify peace with Dorne. Began the tradition of opening the Water Gardens to the common children of the palace. And was remembered mainly for her compassion.

You can say that this naming convention is just a little easter egg that was included by George simply to create literary parallels to our Dany and that's probably true. But it feels like George is subtly hinting that Dany has been this figure whose birth has been heralded for centuries.

You can see little echos of her story in other Danys throughout history. And now, in THIS incarnation as Daenerys Stormborn, she is all those Danys and more. She is the wide-eyed, clever, grass-stained young girl learning to become a Queen in the Dorthraki Sea. She is the Dany who was born from an abusive loveless marriage but still became a compassionate leader even though it meant making personal sacrifices (including entering a politically advantage marriage) of her own. A woman whose dreams come true and who rules in her own right. Daenys the Dreamer and Aegon I.

[sephirothsplaything]

SETH SOLARA-"The Shrewd"

A brief account regarding Ser Seth of House Solara

Seth is one half of another. He maintains that he is the better,more astute twin and in many ways this is the truth. Favoring histories and language over the sword and shield,many lords his age thought Seth soft.

They would be sorely mistaken. 

No secret or plot ever passed Seth by as he was fluent in multiple tongues. 

The Summer tongue(house solara’s native language), The common tongue,Dorthraki and High Valyrian as was taught to all his siblings by his mother.

He was previously betrothed to the Lady Laena of house Velyeron,but the partnership was later annulled in favor of Daemon Targaryen.

“His mind is a weapon,of this I am sure.” –Otto Hightower.

QUOTES---

“Books provide solace people cannot,they are the key to progression.”

“I wish to succeed my mother,yet I will never be considered.”

A/N- I avoid creating male characters like the plague. But Seth is cool ig

Fun fact!- He is the most like his mother

[literary-illuminati]

Book Review 11 - The Comanche Empire by Pekka Hämäläinen

Okay, second history book of the year! I actually liked this one, so the review’s probably not going to break 2,000 words like my one of The Bright Ages did nope never mind.

Anyway, this has been on my tbr for something like a year now, having ended up there for the incredibly nerdy reason of ‘got cited in a blog post about how bad the historical accuracy of the Dorthraki in game of thrones is’, and more broadly just because I remain shamefully uniformed about North American indigenous history beyond the highlights. So, for example, this book has expanded my knowledge of the 17th-19th century southwest several times over, and my knowledge of the indigenous people’s there from, well, not quite nothing, but not too far from it either.

This is actually the second book of Hamalainen’s I’ve read -I’d previously gotten my hands on his Lakota America, which is the more recent work. I rather wish I’d taken better notes as I read it, honestly, feels like a more complete/detailed compare and contrast would be interesting.

Anyways – so the book’s got both a broader historiographical/polemical thesis and then also the specific guiding narrative for its particular subject matter. The broader thesis is essentially that indigenous peoples in the Americas were full and active agents of history, and for centuries after the Columbian Exchange many of them were quite rich and powerful and had significant freedom of action – history isn’t just something that rolls in from the east, which people were then effected by or reacted to, they weren’t just trapped in antediluvian ways of life politely waiting for Progress to arrive. It’s a point he returns to in his latter work, but it certainly one that still seems like it needs making.

His specific thesis for the book, though, is that between the early 18th and late 19th centuries, the Comanche were able to create a real nomadic empire in what became the American southwest, driving out or incorporating rival nations to essentially dominate all the best land for the intensive dual pastoral/hunting economy they developed on the southern plains, and reducing the colonial states of New Mexico and Texas (and at different times Louisiana and almost all of northern Mexico) to the status of imperial tributaries or raiding hinterlands. It was only with the collapse of the buffalo population and the resulting famine (combined with smallpox) that the US Army and the rivers of settlers from Texas and further east were able to seize the southwest and convert it into an agrarian economy.

The book’s very much published by Yale University Press, and not exactly easy reading. It is, however, really very light on jargon, or at least makes sure to introduce all its terms and be clear in their use and meanings. The lack of Comanche written records means Hamalainen mostly has to rely on colonial sources or the reports of merchants and traders, so he has made an explicit point of trying to cross reference multiple such sources from different colonizers whenever possible, and especially for all his significant claims. Besides only barely glancing at the endnotes, I honestly found it really very readable, if dry.

Politics and colonialism aside, one thing Hamalainen really does an excellent job getting across is how revolutionary the (re-)introduction of horses to the Great Plains was. He frames it in terms of access to energy – having horses allows you to being exploiting the massive amounts of calories in the grasses and inedible plant life of the prairies, increasing the total amount of energy you have to do work several times over. Especially when the southern great plains are basically the ideal environment for horses, and their population started exploding basically the second the Spaniards lost track of a breeding pair.

You don’t realize how much easier a nomadic life gets when you upgrade from dogs to horses or mules for pack animals, and how much incredibly more efficiently you can hunt buffalo when you’re not doing it on foot and don’t have to haul back everything you take by hand. Not even getting into how much it shrinks the world in terms of trade and communication, or the massive advantage in being able to dominate hunting grounds and win wars. All incredibly obvious things I just hadn’t particularly thought about.

All this is especially relevant with the Comanche, because from the late eighteenth through mid nineteenth centuries they basically made themselves the fulcrum of the horse trade on a continental scale, with herds that put basically everyone else to shame and an incredibly lucrative business raiding Texas for horses and mules and trading them along with ones they’d raised or tamed themselves north and east.

Speaking of ‘raiding’ – the ‘empire’ in the book’s title isn’t just there to grab attention. The whole book is organized around the thesis that the Comanche both essentially migrated into and conquered the southern Great Plains with a mixture of warfare, diplomacy, and incorporating other groups, and then – along with making themselves the centre of an incredibly lucrative trading network that reached across most of the continent, with Comanche becoming an increasingly common language for trade even quite far from their actual territories – reduced the sedentary and agrarian communities around them (both indigenous and colonial) to the status of an exploited imperial periphery.

This was especially the case in Texas and New Mexico, the former being used as an intensive raiding hinterland and source of livestock well into the mid nineteenth century (at several points raided until the point of near-collapse), and the latter a collection of entrepots, whose governors provided annual tribute and whose towns traded at favourable rates for Comanche goods with the variably explicit promise that failure to do so would be rectified by raiding to make up the difference of a fair exchange. By the time of the Mexican-American War, the governor of the state was more or less openly defying the central government and maintaining a stance of pro-Comanche neutrality in the conflicts between the two.

This peaked in the early-mid nineteenth century, with essentially all of northern Mexico being reduced to an extraction zone for massive annual raids, and individual states or towns negotiating without any real reference to the larger Mexican state, often providing information and scouts to help attack their neighbours in exchange for immunity.

Which actually leads into one of what seemed to me to be one of the book’s more striking claims – that Mexico’s performance in the Mexican-American war can largely be put down to the fact that northern Mexico was only nominally part of the country even before the Americans invaded. There was little appetite for fighting and dying for Mexico City as the Americans moved in because from locals perspective Mexico City had been failing them quite comprehensively for years. (The decision to invite Anglo settlers into Texas is also put down as an attempt to create a shield against Comanche raiding, and the failures of Mexican attempts to reconquer it down to the lack of logistics and organization that resulted from all the possible staging grounds being de facto hostile territory).

Anyways, war and high politics aside, the book was excellent at describing what was actually involved in a nomadic economy on the southern Great Plains. The yearly schedule of raids and hunts, and the importance of river valleys to winter in (and the resulting conflict with sedentary/agricultural communities living in those valleys full-time) is just fascinating. The massively increased efficiency of an entirely hunting/pastoral lifestyle being matched by how fragile it was, likewise- it was vitally importance to get maize and other plant calories through trade or tribute to avoid protein poisoning from an all-meat diet. (Which, like, not actually a thing I’d known to worry about!) Likewise, the fact that horses and buffalo ate basically the same grasses and flourished in the same habitats imposed some real tensions on raising herds of the one while hunting the other – and the fact that even just passing through en route to California, a wagon train of settlers was immensely destructive, stripping river valleys of feed and firewood that was needed for winter camps, not even mentioning all the hunting they did.

One thing that definitely struck me – and the same thing happened with the Lakota, if I’m recalling Hamalainen’s other book correctly – is how the massive increase in prosperity over the 18th/19th century actually made Comanche society massively more patriarchal. Hunting was traditionally a man’s role, and treating/preparing the hide his daughter or wife’s. But a mounted and firearm-wielding man can kill way more buffalo than a single woman can possibly handle, and buffalo robes were, along with horses and captives (either for ransom or as slaves) one of the main trade goods Comanche rancherias used to buy guns, maize, metal cookwear, or whatever else they might need.

The result was a massive spread and institutionalization of polgyny, with junior wives essentially being labourers in the household manufacturing business. With the wealthiest and most important men often having dozens of wives, this rather unsurprisingly had the effect of creating a large class of peripheral young men with strong collective interests in raiding or feuding with neighbouring communities, either to win enough prestige and wealth to attract a wife, or just to kidnap and forcibly marry someone during the raiding. The fact that even as inequality grew more and more extreme, social mobility remained fairly high – among men, of course, but there don’t seem to have been real aristocratic dynasties – is a big part of the explanation Hamalainen gives for why the pressure and tension was all focused outward, and internal Comanche politics remained fairly peaceful and consensus driven (if increasingly oligarchic.)

The economic importance of slavery and the slave trade to just...everything in the region until the late 19th century was also something I probably should have known but still kind of took me by surprise, honestly. Kidnapping people from outlying ranches or other indigenous nations on the Great Plains and selling them to the colonial elite was an extremely lucrative trade throughout the Spanish colonial period, which mostly just transitioned to ‘ransoming’ them after theoretical legal crackdowns. According to Hamalainen, the Comanche didn’t initially practice slavery internally, but after a smallpox epidemic decimated their population several times over around the turn of the nineteenth century they turned to it in a pretty big way to have enough labor to sustain their economy and trade relationships (a fairly temporary kind of slavery, it should be noted, with most seemingly eventually being integrated as full members of the community. Which did mean the pressure to go raid for more was ever present.)

The book was an incredible trove of examples of things where I had previously sort of thought something that was just the result of individual greed or brutal social pressures was actually just, like, consciously racist/imperialist state policy on the part of New Spain or the United States. Either ineffective and kind of comical (Spanish policy for a good bit was to intentionally sell the Comanche secondrate and fragile guns so they’d break more often and they’d be more continually dependent on Spanish goodwill. They just started buying from the British) or extremely effective and pretty consciously genocidal (buffalo overhunting for greed and capitalism reasons was absolutely cratering the population, but at a certain point it was absolutely the policy of the US Army to just destroy the economic basis of Comanche independence.)

I honestly have no idea whether Hamalainen is trying to prove too much, but the argument he makes for the eventual American invasion and conquest of the plains – that the actually armed conflicts were kind of besides the point, because Comanche power had already been pretty thoroughly decimated by a late breaking smallpox outbreak and buffalo-overhunting induced famine, combined with mostly successful efforts to suppress their trading connections in now-American New Mexico, and that the actual campaigns were less battles and more intentional campaigns to destroy their winter villages and the food and goods stores within – seems to hold together and make sense.

Anyway, yeah, heavy and dry book, not exactly cheery reading, but incredibly interesting and informative read. Would recommend, if ‘350 pages of book followed by 150 of endnotes, index and bibliography’ is the sort of thing that appeals.

[dorkinlesbianlove]

I spent six seasons of game of thrones looking for a cream colored horse (palomino). I kept joking they must find those horses to modern looking for their medieval show. They always have black or white/grey horses, maybe a brown horse but God forbid you have a pretty cr am colored horse, I guess it's ruin the aesthetic for them. Finally in one of the wide shots of all the dorthraki on horse finally in a corner you can see a blond horse. I guess when you need so many horses in one shot you can't be picky about color

[unpaidpiper]

“Maybe I should braid your hair. Maybe two little braids? Something more complicated. Think it would suit you, a lot.” He grins, not even knowing what came over him. Approaching the man like this. “I bet you hear it often, your hair sure looks healthy.”

(i picked orion so come at me)

"Well yeah I don't need a braid, thank you," Nettie said, scratching back his hair. "Not exactly a Dorthraki around here, so long as its out of my eyes I'm good..."

[planetmimi]

i like that guy that’s been riding for dany. not the white man, the fine ass dorthraki(however it’s spelt)

AND THATS THE WHOLE FIRST SEASON 🥳🥳

[lazuli-writes]

What if the Sarnori migrated?

summary: So how do we get the Sarnori people saved and to Westeros? Ten thousand ships give or take.

pairing: none

genre: rabbit hole rambles

estimated word count: 2250 words

a/n: Another oldie, please note that this is obviously just a lot of unrealistic fiction fun. Remember folks, copying other people’s works is plagiarism and that’s illegal. Don’t be that kind of person. Anyways, hope you all enjoy it :)

©little-lazuli. Do not copy, repost, or translate without permission

Yayyyy another totally random asoiaf what if rabbit hole I have found myself in. For today’s topic I am talking about the possibility of the Sarnori pulling a Princess Nymeria. Without further ado let’s go.

For starters, I would start the Sarnori migration during the century of blood. The Dorthraki were on the rise and have conquered Sarnori cities one by one. And the great battle called the Field of Crows in canon became the largest battle between the Sarnori and Dothraki. This is where I would split off.

Mazor Alexi who was known in canon as the last High King of Sarnor had led a united Sarnori force of approximately 120,000-130,000 men to combat the four Khalasars who eventually corner Mazor’s force on all sides and crushed them. After that they would soon sack and burn Mazor’s city Sarnath to the ground, Sarnath was also basically the capital of the Kingdom of Sarnor.

The point of divergence begins in the mist of the Field of Crows battle. Mazor who is recognizing his forces are about to be surrounded makes a desperate retreat with only 10,000 forces left as his back, the rest were left to be butchered by the Dothraki.

Knowing he has little time left before the Khalasars would descend on his home and people, he decides to do the Nymeria and evacuate his city on boats. Thousands, upon thousands of people would join the exodus, following their king. Ships, rafts, boats and logs would sail up the river Sarne away from the city of Sarnath. Hundreds more people would also ride on their horses and chariots (just a fyi the Sarnori were famed for their scythed chariots) the scene of the thousands of people leaving Sarnath would be in a sad sense legendary and memorable as maybe called the “exodus of Sarnath” or something like that (basically similar to nymeria’s “ten thousand ships”).

The Khalasars would reach the empty city and plunder what they could before razing the city and taking what was left (maybe people who didn’t want to leave or even some resources). Mazor’s group would sail/ride non stop, reaching the Sarnori city of Rathylar and also gathering more resources and more people to their exodus as the threat of the coming Dothraki was imminent and inevitable. The men and women on horses (men and women were expected to go to war together in Sanori culture) would be the scouts for the greater group of refugees.

Mazor’s fleet of refugees would stop in the ruins of Hornath (another Sarnori city destroyed by Dothraki) as they travelled up the Sarne. They would rest and gather what little supply they could before continuing in their journey up the Sarne. Also as Mazor is sailing up the Sarne, I am sure other Sarnori refugees fleeing the Dothraki would join the large group of refugees.

I think there would be constant small skirmishing of some smaller Dothraki Khalasars meeting the refugee fleet but nothing too big as Mazor’s fleet would continue sailing up north. The next major rest stop would be the ruins of Kyth. More rest, more supplies gathering and maybe another skirmish or two. On north the fleet would continue, until the reach the next stop, Mardosh, the ruined Sarnori city of soldiers that prompted Mazor Alexi to unite the Sarnori in the first place.

After finally leaving Mardosh, the fleet would take a trip to the last two Sarnori cities based at the Sarne river delta. The sister cities of Sarys and Saath. Mostly out of the Dothraki’s radar for now, Mazor’s fleet would rest for some time here, but once news of the coming Dothraki from the east reaches Mazor, Sarys is all but abandoned as well, leaving the Dothraki little to no treasures or people to plunder. Soon after the razing of Sarys, Mazor makes the decision to set sail, cause he knows that the Dothraki will never accept the Sanori people back onto their lands and at the moment are too powerful to overcome. And Mazor knew that the city of Saath despite having the potential to grow larger and stronger, the land around it would never be enough to sustain all of the Sarnori, a large majority of which have become refugees.

So setting sail (and for the sake of dramatic-ness) Mazor Alexi and his ten thousand ships (more realistically maybe 1000 rafts and boats and small ships) set sail west to find a new home. It was barely a moon’s turn when the Sarnori first landed at the axe. The fabled birthplace of the Andals, Mazor Alexi settled a the Axe, calling the place the new home of the Sarnori.

[this is we’re it gets HELLA blank cause my main purpose is to just get the Sarnori to Westeros]

For some damn reason Mazor is like “whoops we can’t stay here no more” maybe it’s some lingering Khalasars that finally made it passed the great forest of Qohor. Or maybe some Qohorik or Norvosi slavers have been popping up a bit too much and the power of these two cities are threatening the safety of the remaining Sarnori. Or even into some deeper conspiracies, there was a reason the Andals left the axe and created Andalos; maybe there was a great plague or some magical or mystical threat similar to Yeen that was threatening and Mazor was like “enough is enough” and hits the ocean with his people again.

In good ole asoiaf suspenseful explanation fashion, I imagine Mazor’s exodus would be detailed down into a tale maybe called “the tales of the tall men” similar to the apparently canon book “the end of the tall men” or have Mazor’s tale be called smn like “Mazor’s Exodus” or “The Fleet of the Tall Men” but anyways, and excerpt of Mazor’s tale concerning why he led people out and away from the Axe goes:

“the Andals held reasons for why they decamped from the lands of the Axe. Reasons for which had defiled my slumber with harsh terrors. Reasons for which my children (Mazor’s reference towards his people) hold fear in their hearts. Reasons that now demanded I spare my children and I more suffering and Grace the cold sea once more”

Next stop, Lorathi Bay. It was here Mazor Alexi founded another new home for his people. The game and the land was good for his people to sustain themselves. The neighbors however, was not that cute. The Lorathi people despite their exceptionally weak military and naval strength, they became a nuisance to the Sarnori who were just trying to survive. The Ibbenese sailors who sailed far from Ib all the way to the Lorathi bay to fish some Leviathans were hard people who were clear that did not appreciate the competition for resources. And then now the third neighbor, the newly revealed Braavosi who had open their gates and revealed themselves to world, and now with many of the fishermen coming, more competition for food.

Competition would reach a boiling point in the Leviathan War: It started with a disagreement between some Ibbenese and Lorathi ships fighting over some gain and in the end, the Sarnori ships are collateral damage. And where there are Braavosi, there is Braavosi domination. So onward Mazor sails again. With the amount of wood, food and mined ore such as Amber and tin that are quite common in the Lorathi bay area, Mazor’s fleet are now somewhat more refined and redone. Now with actual ships, whether it be large galleys or some cogs, they got some new ships now and they aren’t on the brink of starvation.

So on they set sail, leaving the Lorathi bay. As they sail, they decide to remain rather close to the coast so that they can take breaks, catch some food and rest. But onward they go. Eventually they sail outside of Braavos and do end up trading with the new Free City and require some wealth from selling some of their gain or fur or cloths or whatevers. There they learn of the existence of Westeros cause this is just me but I would think that the common people of Central or more internal Essos wouldn’t know the most about the sunset kingdoms.

With that in mind, Mazor’s fleet crosses the narrow sea West and more west and more west and bam they land in the Vale, more specifically the Paps, the Andals there aren’t particularly fond of the non Andalosi folk so Mazor continues his sailing, avoiding the fingers and making another stop at the Sisters. Luckily Mazor found the islands during the day cause if it was at night, for sure the Sistermen would have tried smn. The sistermen traded their goat milk and goat cheese for some oil made out of the blubber from the whales and leviathans the Sarnori had encounter back at Lorathi bay. Mazor Alexi sat with the ruling lord Borell at Sisterton where the Borells informed the Sarnori king of the North and how they were evil people. Savages among men and relayed the story of the R*pe of the Three Sisters islands. And then they told the story of the Vale and their overzealous kings who despised all who did not follow their faith.

Mazor, with that information decided to not sail north nor south but rather to continue west, to reach the middle land between the two wretched kingdoms that the Sistermen informed them of. Landing in the very northeast corner of the Riverlands, Mazor’s Harbor was founded and a bright and hopeful town was established. But of course, happy endings don’t really exist in the world of ice and fire. Who decides to show up? The Freys. As overlord of the land, they aren’t too happy having a bunch of foreigners they deem savage like and inhumane occupying and “stealing” their land and profiting of it.

So what do the Freys do? They do what they do best. Being a bunch of bitches. Raiding, attacking, and just down right antagonizing the Sarnori. Mazor Alexi, who has had to see the near annihilation of his people and culture, hopeful to have finally found a home for his people and is now being bullied by a bunch of close minded, high maintenance little shits… in the words of Detox, “I’ve had it OFFICIALLY!”

Mazor Alexi, gathering his men and women to fight would ambush a small force of Frey men sent to meet and antagonize the Sarnori once more. With that battle, they would force the survivor(s) to tell them of the Twins. Knowing he could not just win a battle on the field, inspired by the stories of Harwyn Hoare who had just recently invaded the Riverlands in hopes of conquering it told by the captured Frey Men, Mazor had his people carry or pull some of the ships, maybe the cogs, from Mazor’s Harbor all the way to the headwaters of the Green Fork near the borders of the neck. Separating his forces, Mazor would lead his small fleet of maybe five cogs down the Green Fork en route to the Twins down south. The other force made of the majority of his men and women foot soldiers and charioteers, they waited away the east tower of the Twins out of their line of vision.

In the dark of night, Mazor’s ships rowed down the Green Fork and in a hectic mission, climb the piers of the large bride and take over the central tower. It’s a lucky success and here comes the hard part, infiltrating the east tower, Mazor himself leads his men in the assault on the east tower, not with the intention of securing the tower but just opening the gate. The rumbling of the charging chariots and following them the other spare riders and foot soldiers awake both castles. The Freys are quick to try an fight their way into taking back the castle. However, reinforcements are stalled by the Sarnori archers in the central tower protecting the bridge. Though the Freys eventually take back the central tower, it’s too late.

Reaching the east gate, Mazor and his immediate group of soldiers open the east portcullis, allowing the Sarnori armies to invade the East keep. Despite the west keep’s attempt to take the castle, men are butchered when the scythed chariots race across the bridge, butchering many men. The struggle on the bridge where the main fighting has taken place comes to a sudden halt after Mazor holds Lord Wendel Frey (sorry he’s a oc I just needed a name for this Frey) hostage. The west keep soon surrenders. Having some mercy, Mazor let’s most of the Frey family go, but they are all stripped of all weapons and finery. Left only in servant clothes, the Sarnori banished them all out of the castle and force them to leave. All except one. A daughter of Frey who who caught Mazor’s eye is kept for Mazor to wed. The Twins are soon taken and occupied by Mazor and his people.

Mazor and his Frey wife soon marry and are proclaimed king and queen of the Sarnori people. House Alexi of the crossing is established, and the lands and hills stretching from the Twins to Mazor’s Harbor, Sarnori people begin to settle (maybe integrate or displace the local andal smallfolk) and they soon call the place their new home, a new Sarnor.

Okie dokie that’s all for now. I know it’s a lot of luckiness and just downright wtf moments and some clear “that wouldn’t fkn happen” but hello that’s the point, it’s a fictional rabbit hole where nothing is realistic. But anyways, those are my thoughts on a possible established Sarnori population in Westeros. What are some thoughts or other what if’s y’all had in mind? For now though, thank you and seeya :))

[jonquilspool]

i feel like it's important to remember that dany did do the slaving and conquering a la her ancestors while she was with the dorthraki. like her arc was going from slave -> slaver -> liberator. it's an important aspect bc of how easily she could have chosen to maintain that power, especially with dragons, but she didn't

[winkydinkle]

Look not to be controversial BUT

If you weren’t bothered in S1 by Drogo taking the Dorthraki across the sea to fight for Dænys claim where they’d invade a continent of white ppl and possibly die by the thousands doing so and watching Dæny literally burn down a sacred place to a culture she doesn’t give a fuck about when she had the chance to run away without the bloodshed of brown ppl (they did threaten her, but it wouldn’t have happened if she had left with Jorah and Darrio)

Then you have no business getting mad about the Dorthraki getting swallowed up by the AotD in 1 second.

This is probably only becoming problematic to you now that a white woman is losing because of her army being destroyed.

Don’t act like you actually care about the brown ppl who’ve been getting stepped on to raise up the great khaleesi since s1.

[freshthoughts2020]

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[popconandpopcorn-blog]

Conlangs: constructed, not convoluted

What makes the aliens we see in movies so alien like? Is it their green skin or their round spaceships? No, those are silly depictions that Hollywood has long since left behind. CGI offers limitless possibilities nowadays, but the best way to create something that the audience can immediately identify as unknown is to invent a new language. But how do you invent a language? Can anyone just go and create a language?

Constructed languages (or conlangs) serve several different purposes. Many linguists have attempted to create an ideal language that is easy to learn and speak, the most successful example of which is Esperanto, which is now spoken by around a million people, several thousand of whom are native speakers. However, constructed languages don’t always serve a purpose in the real world, they may just be designed for aesthetic pleasure. These particular constructed languages are referred to as artistic languages (or artlangs). The most famous example of an artlang is J.R.R. Tolkien’s Elvish, a group of languages he started creating in 1915 as part of the lore of Middle Earth. Now of course, Tolkien was not just an author, he was also an academic. His desire to create a language stemmed from his work as a philologist and his knowledge of Middle English.

There isn’t a clear set of rules for creating a good conlang. The main thing that language constructors pay attention to is the context in which the language is used. A language like Dothraki from Game of Thrones sounds foreign but still somewhat recognizable. The length of words and sentences are similar to the length of English words and sentences, and there are 23 consonant phonemes, where English is generally believed to have 24. All of the consonant phonemes in Dothraki can also be found in English. It makes sense for Dothraki to sound recognizable because it is spoken by humans, albeit exotic ones. A stranger sounding conlang is Na’vi, from James Cameron’s Avatar. Na’vi contains twenty consonant phonemes, but it lacks voiced stops (like b, d and g) and instead has several glottal egressives, which are sounds made by exhaling air from the throat instead of the lungs. Glottal egressives don’t occur in any Indo-European languages. This causes Na’vi to sound far stranger than Dothraki, which is logical to the viewer because Na’vi is spoken by blue creatures from another world. How strange a language sounds to our ears is influenced by the sounds in that language, the length of words and sentences and also the syntax of a language.

Creating a conlang is difficult because it is tempting to let your native language influence the language you’re creating. Most conlangs are created by English speakers and since they’re usually made for movies, television or books they’re geared towards an English audience. There might be people in this world to whom Na’vi would sound far more familiar than Dothraki does, but that is often not taken into account by the creators of conlangs. Overall, there are many pitfalls when it comes to inventing a new language, but when it works it is an incredibly effective way to immerse your audience in the world you’ve created.

- Maartje - 

[nirvana-nikiforov]

That Dorthraki scene was fu***ng tragic I don't care what anyone says— 💔

[asherfaye]

Felt cute and felt cuter on the last slide. Slide through#feltcute #blackgirlmagic #blackgirlhairstyles #mommyboobs #dorthraki (at St. Louis) https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxn9-DPAVNV/?igshid=ulae9awfrwcu

[captainmjolnir]

This has been bothering me for ages but like what does Dany intend to do with the Dothraki if she wins because like they're not gonna want to live a nice, clean Westerosi lifestyle, they're gonna wanna keep doing to nomadic shit (I mean by now I think she's stopped them raping people but is that gonna last?) and she can't exactly come down on them, she owes them. 

Does she plan to ship them back to Essos and just wipe her hands of them? That definitely won’t backfire at all now they they know what ships are.