#doodletones

[cinnabrew]

On a big fanart roll this week (I promise I make original stuff lol) and now we have Suzy aka Doodletones!

[kingxgarm]

Doodletoner day 9 "going nuclear"

I can't draw explosions

Or Lunar

Or- *blows up*

Thank you @kadetheradio for the idea :3

[zaranthropy]

Liddell, the most magical doodle of them all ⭐

(character originally by @doodletones but her twitter got suspended so I'm posting it here to give proper credit (sorry about your twitter btw hope you get it back!))

[opinated-user]

I find it funny how Lily is all like “you all just want to see a trans woman die and kill herself” when I’m aware of plenty of trans people (my friend, EOT, Doodletones, Patch (Patch is trans right? I know They definitely aren’t cis) and many many more) that are aware of Lily and hate her guts

oh wait sorry I forgot Lily is the only trans person that matters trans people are only worth listening to if they lick Lily’s boots and agree with anything she says like Mikaela

I never knew that the most transphobic people in the world according to Lily included lots of trans people

LO has been openly and publicly transphobic to all her critics. it's clear that she only cares about transphobia when it comes to herself, but doesn't mind weaponize it herself.

[britts-galaxy-brain]

I will say about kiwi farms …

it is a dogshit website

like while they do go after genuinely terrible people like Lily orchard … they’ve also dog piled on completely innocent people as well (like Doodletones who’s biggest sin was making bad videos on metokur … which started a massive harassment campaign on her that she still hasn’t recovered from (hell like a few years ago she had to deal with someone that kept spreading her Dox and also dealt with a cyber stalker that tried to impersonate her to ruin her reputation … said cyberstalker is still harassing her as of 2023 … it started in 2020 btw… also the KF thread has her actual deadname which is extra yikes)

Also you know the constant transphobia (like the amount of times I’ve seen Lilys deadname and the wrong pronouns on the thread is … yeah Lily orchards a scumfuck but that doesn’t justify transphobia)

it fucking sucks that the only archive of Lilys horrible shit … is also a site that fucking bigoted

same with scum like Coyote lovely and hypnotist Sappho it’s a fucking shame the only reliable source people can go to are the fucking farms

we need a better site … a site that does the same thing as kiwi farms except 1. Has no tolerance for any bigotry whatsoever and 2. Only targets people who’ve actually done wrong and not people who are cringe

Agreed. That's why I don't look at anything else there except Lily's thread. I'm not in any way supportive of the rest of the site or what they allow.

[cozy-art]

Have some love for @doodletones, can't helpthe adoration for the mad scientist type, and those cartoony eyes

[ephrom]

Everything I Don't Like Is Kiwi Farms Fault: The Lily Orchard Story

Before we begin, I just want to say I have no love for Kiwi Farm and view them being taken down as nothing but a good thing. They've gone after people I care about--albeit many of terrible things you hear about are hyperbolized or the result of a handful of bad actors--and their lack of dedication to civil decorum really shows. However, once again, Lily has to collective her enemies into one massive blob out to attack her--even when they have nothing to do with each other. Hence a thread she posted to Twitter just today to talk about how Kiwi Farms has harmed her.

For those who don't know, Kiwi Farm threads of people always started with an introduction post that described everything that was known about the person up until that point. I mention this because the introduction post for her thread on Kiwi Farms mentioned both the catfishing (which is a reference to Tara Callie) and the "pedo fic" (which is a reference to Stockholm). Therefore, it could not be Kiwi Farms who began these claims--because otherwise they wouldn't have been in their introduction post.

I believe the Kiwi Farms thread on her began in 2015 at the earliest (at least, the active one--somebody created one before that was deleted years ago and only had three pages worth of content and not anything particularly interesting), and the claims of her catfishing had been going on for long before that point. Tara Callie was so suspicious that even @britts-galaxy-brain began to believe that Tara wasn't real when she was friends with Lily. Meanwhile, again, the claims about Stockholm began when Stockholm was first published in 2014.

This is just a repeat of the claims she made in her stalking video I talked about yesterday. If you want more information on that, here's a link to that post.

With that said, this is not to say that the story has remained fully the same. For example, now instead of being worthless shut ins who haven't caused anything other than stress, Lily's stalkers are the reason she was raped in 2018.

Also, these people are awful, vindictive, and abusive--but they're also just mad that Lily had an opinion on a cartoon or something.

Never mind the fact that Lily says here that Kiwi Farms is a website dedicated to stalking and harassing LGBT people.

Meanwhile, back when she made a video on her stalkers six months ago, two of the people she listed were transgender (Jess and Zena, who she turned into one person for some reason, and Patchwork Heart), one is non-binary (Segasister), and another is a lesbian (Brittany). Although this is a person who she calls the ex of a transgender woman who she was engaged to a transphobe, so I'm not sure what to expect at this point. Not only that, but so Brittany, despite Brittany being accepting of her when she first came out as transgender that she encouraged Lily to pursue the identity if it would make her happy despite Lily's fears.

In fact, I think I need to go back to this video real quick because it's incredibly telling.

First off, I would like to both apologize to @segasister for missing this flaw and thank her for pointing it out.

Now the incident I believe she's talking about regarding the brony fanbase tolerating pedophiles is the ToonKriticY2K one (even though I don't think he met the definition of pedophile, but that's a different topic). Never mind the fact that Segasister was also manipulated and fucked over by ToonKritic--that's just not supposed to matter. Just like it doesn't matter that somebody who's not white would be friends with two white supremacists who Lily has combined into one person for no fucking reason.

I'm never good at knowing when to end posts when it comes to Lily. Here's a funny tweet from Doodletones.

[malice-and-macarons]

More creators as Chibis

[chibigissy]

I drew fanart for another one of @doodletones' characters! This time, it's for Poppy, ^^

[cassaoniaarts]

Doodletones fanart

[nightmaretheif]

Peices i done for two Youtubers whos videos i love to watch, yes i found them through the Commentary Community and i think their content is amazing along with many others i watch.

Doodletones -

https://www.deviantart.com/sd-the-doodler

https://www.youtube.com/user/Doodletones

Iilluminaughtii -

https://instagram.com/iilluminaughtii

https://www.youtube.com/user/iilluminaughtii

Sugar, Violet and Elizabeth (c) Doodletones

Iilluminaughtii (c) Blair

Art (c) Nightmaretheif

[ajscorpio98-blog]

@thesilverkeyblade @mastertp10 

Silver, Tp, and Suzy Doodles go to the beach where Tp’s precious sand castle is destroyed.

Silver: “Chill Mimi-leficient”

Suzy: Is just done with this shit

[chipsinabag]

ms paint ain’t too bad

[crowleymoist]

Youtuber’s I like (List)

So, I’ve gotten messages of this on my other account (Hnn, not @ ing because it’s a cringey account so) so here’s a little list of all the tubers I enjoy

Shane Dawson Dodie Clark Paint Thomas Sanders Jacksepticeye Markiplier Crankgameplays Pewdiepie PettyPaige PonderSprocket TheNamesJunkie Chaos55t Spoctor Tech/Theory Doodletones Pkrussl DigbyTheGoat Daniel Howell and Amazingphil [Danandphilgames] Brandon Rogers Heflawless Lordbung Kittydog Memeulous

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My Apology For My Neko Koda Post

A couple of days ago, I made a post about Neko Koda that has since gotten a large amount of backlash for reasons I will soon get into. If you want to read it in full, you can find it here.

2jun posted a twitter thread on it today criticizing many aspects of the post, from its needless assholery to getting things wrong to the fact that I'm not really the best person to declare where the moral high ground is located.

Doodletones also wrote a thread on Twitter calling me out by name while also making it clear that she did not stand by comparing Neko Koda to Vii Omega.

Koda herself even commented on this post on Twitter and declared that I was "morally bankrupt" because of it.

Most of the post is fairly generic bullshit I've already said about Neko Koda, although I should note that quite a few people got onto my case for saying I was banned from Purely Odd Grandmasters--sorry "Purely Odd Grandmaters" according to the tags--"because of things that were almost always my fault." A number of people took that as an attempt by me to deflect blame onto others--and while I see where they're coming from, I want to make it clear that was never my intent. It was my actions that fucked me over in POG, and none of them were POG's "fault."

Then I move on to her hatred of being compared to Vii Omega--and I do this thing where I also say I totally understand why she doesn't like it while also calling her hatred of it irrational. Even ignoring what Vii did to Neko--and trust me, there's a lot we can say regarding that--that doesn't make any sense on the surface. In order for something to be irrational, you have to have no understanding of the thought process behind it. If you have the ability to comprehend the rationale that leads somebody towards an emotion, that emotion is rational by definition.

That also begs the question of why you'd spend so much time defending something you don't agree with. In the post, I say that Neko should seek to understand why people call her something I dismissed as a "really mean thing" while angry with her. The answer to that question is in the premise: It's because they're angry with her, and more than likely just saying things they know would hurt her feelings. They aren't making some kind of wider personal point about her--because if they were, why the fuck would they limit their comparison to one of the least awful things done by a terrible person? That's like saying you don't like somebody because they remind you of Ronald Reagan in Bedtime for Bonzo--what the fuck does that even mean?

Regarding the situation involving Crimson Paladin and The Cloud Palace, I begin by noting that Neko Koda misused the word "weaponizing," which--okay, who gives a shit? Then, I say this,

Also, Neko does understand that people besides her were victims of Vii Omega, right?

Ah, the Ann Coulter argument.

The person she keeps going after is Doodletones, who was a close friend with Vii Omega up until he was kicked out of The Cloud Place for being a manipulative asshole. Fuck, I was friends with him for far longer than either Neko Koda or Doodletones were, even talking to the guy mere days before he left the internet for being exposed as a groomer and a sexual abuser. Mind you, I was never a victim of his–but doesn’t that give me some right to recognize Neko engaging in similar patterns of behavior that he engaged in?

Who the fuck is arguing that you don't have "some right to recognize Neko engaging in similar patterns of behavior"? Neko even said in a tweet embedded in this post that her issue is not the accusation, but the language used in them.

Doodle had it worse than me–although nobody, except maybe a few–had it worse than Koda, but again, shouldn’t Doodle have the right to notice similarities in patterns of behavior? That’s the thing that really gets to me here. It would be one thing if Koda criticized the comparison as needlessly hyperbolic (because discord servers she isn’t in is where she thinks you list out your formal complaints, I guess) but acknowledged the criticism around it and responded to it. Instead, Koda just gets irrationally angry and uses the harsh analogy and closes her ears. This, plus the fact that she thinks she has the right to tone police every mention of her on the internet is honestly just frustrating.

Serious question: Did you honestly stop and ask why that was? Yeah, most people would become irrational (but in an understandable way, of course--don't think we forgot that) if you compared them to somebody who abused and raped them. Would you listen to that analogy calmly and give a rational response to it? Because if so, that says far more about you than it ever could about Neko Koda.

The tactic being engaged in here is called "bull baiting." For those unaware, it's when you intentionally do something that makes somebody angry in order to go after them for being mad at you. It's based on this really nonsensical idea that you can never be angry and also correct, as if the mere emotion of anger cancels out your ability to say right things. Of course, anger, just like all emotions, can be expressed both justly and unjustly and can be called upon for both good and bad reasons.

To make this very simple: I crossed a line by making that argument, and made a point that was both disgusting and nonsensical in the process. What I said basically came down to "why can't you act rationally in response to being reminded of a trigger of yours," which is such an equal parts bizarre, stupid, ignorant, and disgusting question to ask somebody.

I want to apologize to anybody who I offended with that honestly thoughtless remark. If you don't want to accept that apology--either because you would rather I show improvement first or because you just don't want to--that's perfectly fine, I have no right to your forgiveness. I'm near certain Neko Koda is not going to forgive me for this, and she doesn't have to. I don't have the right to determine how you respond to my actions, that is something for you and you alone and I will not sit here and pretend otherwise.

However, I do at least want to make it known that I understand my mistake when it comes to this situation. In general, I've just been needlessly mean when it comes to both my personal and online conduct. I was originally going to include more apologies than just this one for this post, but honestly, I feel like this situation was such a big fuck up on my part it deserves a post to itself

Goodnight and good luck.

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No Chill Towards Icy [Co-op with Doodletones] Honestly, the most fun thing about this thumbnail was that I finally got to draw Fiend's underside. I really need to start utilizing him more in my commentary artwork. This one was inked and coloured traditionally with prismacolor markers and then touched up in photoshop a wee bit, since my tablet pan was broken at the time.