#don't kill spiders

[redtail-lol]

If you're pro-life you can't kill spiders and here's why:

Life: A spider is more alive than a fetus. The spider knows it's alive and is aware of its existence. It feels fear and it wants to live. Yes, the creepy spider that gives you the shivers wants to live. It is more cruel to kill something that knows it's alive and wants to continue living than to terminate a life that never knew it was alive.

Reliance on you: Like a fetus, the spider relies on you for survival. Rather than actually taking from your body, it just wants to stay in your home so it can be warm and safe. The spider doesn't take, it only wishes to occupy space with you. Outside it may freeze or be eaten, exposed to the dangers of nature and it's cruel ways. Surely, throwing it out to potentially die is not that far behind abortion. What, you didn't want a creepy spider in your house? It's a living thing! And killing the spider? Now that's only a species barrier from being just as cruel as abortion.

Your choices: yes, sometimes you get pregnant when you took precautions or didn't even want the sex to occur, just like how a spider can get inside even when you do everything right to keep them out. But if you don't support people who "made their own choices" having an abortion, then I know you made your own choices when you left your window wide open without a screen. You invited the spider in your house and now you just wanna kill it? No, you made your choices, you can live with Fred now.

Equivalence: No, I do not believe a spider and a human are equal. However, I do believe the fact that a fetus cannot feel anything (even if the nerves are formed, its brain cannot register pain, and it definitely doesn't feel fear. It doesn't even know it exists yet) and the spider can makes it a little closer. Pair that with the fact that a spider is not a lifelong commitment and isn't going to be any bit burdensome for your wallet, free time, happiness, or anything else, and you can make the argument that killing a spider isn't too far behind ending your pregnancy. Therefore...

Values: If you truly believe every life is precious, that all of God's creatures are beautiful, and that abortion is morally wrong because it ends a life, I hope I don't ever see you kill a spider. Let them outside if they creep you out but do not kill them. It may not be a human life but it is, by all means, a life.

This post was made by the pro-choice pro-spider gang. It was prompted by me having a spider on the back of the seat in front of me on the bus today for the whole ride and I didn't squish him. He was a little guy.

[redarmyscreaming]

Spiders are King!

[holyraconteur]

Okay, but here's a dark au where Spider drags Quaritch from the water and promptly kills him, and now no one knows what to do with this human child soaked in the blood of his own father. Blood is thicker than water, right? Why would a son kill his own father? Pandora's greatest enemy is dead. The scourge of the Na'vi is gone.

So, what is this feeling of discontent?

-) The moment Spider pulled Quaritch from the water, he made a choice.

-) The once-mighty colonel was barely clinging to life, his body battered, his strength drained. Weak. Helpless. A man who had terrorized Pandora, who had burned forests and spilled the blood of Eywa's children, now lay before him, gasping, vulnerable.

-) The knife in Spider’s hand felt light. The motion effortless.

-) One swift drag across the throat was all it took. Just like Neytiri would have done to him. 'Do you see me now?' Spider thinks. 'See me. See me. SEE! LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE MADE OF ME!'

-) Quaritch barely made a sound, just a wet, choked gasp as his lifeblood spilled into the water, dark ribbons mixing with the lapping waves. His body seized, his fingers twitching—but Spider only crouched there, watching, waiting. He waited for the flood of emotion. For the relief. The triumph. The guilt. But there was nothing. Just… numbness.

-) The monster was dead. The one responsible for so much suffering, for so much destruction, for everything—gone. And yet, Spider felt nothing. His father’s glassy eyes stared up at him, lifeless. Eywa’s grace had abandoned him long ago. And with any luck, Quaritch’s soul would never find peace. Never find acceptance. Spider exhaled slowly, running his tongue over dry lips, blinking at the bloodied body at his feet. His hands weren’t even shaking.

-) It was done. His brother avenged. The souls of Neytiri's family are avenged. His debt to the Sullys was paid in full. Everything is calm.

-) A soft rustling pulled his gaze upward. His father's Banshee crouched a few feet away, its golden eyes locked onto Spider with an eerie intensity. Spider tensed, half-expecting it to lunge, to attack, to avenge its fallen rider. But it didn’t. It simply watched. And then, without a sound, it lowered its head. Acceptance. Recognition.

-) As if possessed by something beyond himself, Spider stepped forward, his hand outstretched. His fingertips brushed against the creature’s snout, and for the first time that horrible day, he allowed himself a small, hollow smile. Perhaps it was a good thing that Quaritch never truly bonded to this one.

-) The rest of the Na'vi find him hours later, and Tonowari approaches first, his large shadow stretching over the scene, but he hesitates. The Metkayina chief has seen many battles, many bodies. And yet, this is different. This is a child, soaked in the blood of his own father. Why would a son do this? Spider meets his gaze, his expression empty. He waits for judgment. Condemnation. Something.

-) But when Tonowari speaks, it is not with anger. "The demon is dead." A statement. A fact. The warriors behind him exchange uneasy glances, but none argue. Some murmur in agreement; others simply watch. None move to comfort the boy who did the deed. Perhaps they do not know how.

-) The Sully are more horrified than relieved. Even Neytiri, who should feel the greatest relief of all, does not celebrate. Her bow hand clenches, fingers twitching as though her body is caught between two instincts. To praise him… or to fear him. She does not understand. She had thought she knew hatred. She had felt it burn through her when she held the blade to Spider’s throat on the Sea Dragon, her grief drowning out reason.

-) Jake had told her stories—of how humans could be cruel to their own offspring, how some children were beaten, abandoned, even killed by those who were meant to love them. How those same children woke up one day and decided to kill their parents. She had never believed it. Not until now. She watched Spider wipe the blood from his blade with mechanical precision, his movements too calm, too practiced. There is no triumph in his face, no relief, no sorrow.

Just a hollow emptiness.

-) Something dark and quiet has settled in the boy’s chest, a coldness that should not exist in one so young. The boy named Spider died on the Sea Dragon. Drowned beneath the weight of Neytiri’s hate, choked on the understanding that he would never belong. And what remains in his place is something else. Something Tonowari's people and the Sullys do not understand. Something they accept but fear all the same.

-) Jake takes a step forward, but Spider lifts a bloodied hand, stopping him before he can speak. "Don’t." His voice is hoarse, flat. "Your son has been avenged. The debt is paid. I am done. We are done." Jake stares, tears in his eyes, something unspoken hanging between them. "Kid, I never wanted this--" Spider turns his back, mounting the ikran with the ease of someone who had done it a thousand times before. And then he was gone. The wind howled as the graceful creature lifted itself into the sky, carrying Spider higher, farther, into the unknown. Jake’s voice rose behind him, calling his name. Kiri's voice is the loudest, crying and screaming for him, but he hardens his heart. They call his name. Spider does not return. Spider does not look back.

[cyanidespideycup]

I think a lot of people conflate superheroes as a whole to specifically Batman when it comes to the importance of a life. It makes sense, supers are meant to be put on pedestals and represent what we should all aspire to be. But it's weird when this gets applied to Spidey.

Just like everything else with Peter, he is a regular guy. Other superheros represent what we should aspire to be, but Spidey represents what we can be. He cares for every life. He hopes to give everybody a second chance. But if someone asks for it, Pete will beat their fucking skull in.

When his cop/detective friend Jean DeWolff was murdered, he hunted the man down and physically fought his way past Daredevil to kill the guy and ended up beating him within an inch of his life. When Kingpin got May shot, Peter broke into his prison, effortlessly beat him to a smear, and then promised that when May died, not if, he'd come back and finish the job- violently. There are just countless instances of him deciding "I'm actually going to kill him now totally" with Norman. Most notably of course is the glider incident, which Peter didn't actually go to with the intent to kill (weirdly enough despite Gobby killing his fiance). However, he took pleasure in beating him senseless and wasn't exactly broken up by the final thud.

Peter's a guy who meets every situation with the intent to help someone. He tries to find every opportunity to help another person, even someone who's trying to kill him, even if it's at his own detriment. He's not a perfect manifestation of morals and purity. He's just some guy. Some guy who cares a whole lot for people. And that makes it all the more special when he does help someone. When he talks a girl off a roof, or inspires a kid to be better than the system set him up for, or befriends his own rogues. It all feels so much more personal. This is just a person, one of us. Someone who fails more often than not, who makes bad jokes and gets angry and feels hate and love and pain all at once and most of all, someone who tries his best no matter what.

[lesbianredhoodedmercenary]

project moon is getting me with the girldads double whammy

ryoshu spider bud ego.... ryoshu getting the ego for the abnormality that's so fiercely protective of it's children to the point of murder... combined with how protective the artist is of his daughter in hell screen... she's the best dad on the bus

[thejakeformerlyknownasprince]

Wouldn't squirrels be a really god observation morph? As I saw a page point out for Squirrel Girl, Squirrels are pretty much everywhere.

Yes! We see the Animorphs use squirrel that way a little in #35 and #4 — their dexterous "hands" and banality come in handy. That said, I don't know that squirrel nets a huge advantage over seagull or housefly.

Gulls are everywhere outside (it being a beach town) and seen as uninteresting as squirrels, BUT they're better able to escape, more known for approaching humans, and eaten by predators less often. Flies are more vulnerable BUT they're one of very few animals that can move around inside without humans killing, evicting, or even noticing them much of the time. Which is why we see gull or fly morph used in almost every book, more than any other group morphs except maybe raptor.

[maximumqueer]

Ya know, realistically, the majority of superheroes/vigilantes would probably be ACAB. Especially the more street level ones. Frankly, the only reason they express any pro-cop sentiment is because their IPs are owned by major corporations that are implicitly (or explicitly) pro-cop.

Like, you mean to tell that characters who willingly dress up in spandex and kevlar and go around stopping crimes outside the jurisdiction of the law like cops??? If they did they would BE cops themselves.

I'll use Spider-Man as an example because he's the comic book character I'm most familiar with (and the one I've been hyper-fixating on recently). Peter learns very early on the whole power and responsibility thing. And that is a large driving factor in his vigilantism. He believes that it is his moral obligation to help people because of the power he has. But, if he truly believed that the police force was effective and useful, he either would have joined the force the second he was old enough too - believing that to be the most 'responsible' way to use his great power - or would focus only on the super villains that the cops can't handle. But neither of those scenarios take place. Peter still operates outside the law, and still deals with would-be muggings, murders, assaults etc. Now, from a meta perspective being a superhero/vigilante is far more interesting than being a police officer, but the in-story connotation is that Peter (and vigilantes like him) at minimum do not believe that the police are competent enough to handle even street level crimes. Or just completely distrust them. Yes, Peter becoming Spider-Man is a result of his uncles death and the lesson that imparted on him. But Peter still chose to operate outside the law. Chose vigilantism as his path rather than law enforcement. And so do the majority of heroes/vigilantes like him.

It's why I - in general - prefer reading fanfic of comic characters as opposed to the actual canon, becasue at least there the author can actually write the vigilantes as vigilantes, and explore what it actually means to work outside the law, and all the complicated nuances that come with it instead of just being all "golly-gee the boys in blue sure are swell!"

[mrmozzie]

Main and Symbiote Suit Spider-Man

[sciderman]

Wait i just...injust realised something.

Peter and Logan are both self-proclaimed loners, they have both serious anger issues and are kinda assholes who tend to lash out at people, one of their coping mechanisms (if i noticed it right with Peter) is to just leave a situation in anger and self-isolate themselves, they both seem to fall in love with most people around them (poly kings), and alot of people (including multiple villians) have a "God you piss me off so much! I wanna fuck you so bad! I HATE how atractive you are to me!" thing going on. They both lost their fashion style for the most part during the early 200s (70s and 80s were a fashion peak for them), transmascs seem to see them as transition goals, they both had their original love interest they intended on marrying and when that didn't work out (Gwen and Mariko), they had a period of being with a wild thrill-seeking lady in black bodysuits (Black Cat and Yukio), and they're both more skilled, smart and powerful than alot of people seem to think, they're also kinda hypocrites in the sense that they preach what others should be while not exactly being that themselves. They also have a Samurai and Ninja dynamic going on a bit. Like...no wonder i love both and no wonder Logan did that whole native american "blood brother" ritual with Pete, they're so similar in alot of things.

this is called batman syndrome and it effects one in every 5 superheroes. there is currently no cure. one like one prayer

[iwasbored777]

Me trying to figure out why people are still mad at Gwen for going through Miles' sketchbook without asking but no one is talking about how he turned himself invisible and was spying on her, listening to her conversation with Jessica and following her to another dimension without her approval:

I have no problem with them both being like this but why are the stupid things she does demonized while the stupid things he does are being romanticized?

[holyraconteur]

...

So, I've been having thoughts about Spider wielding Chaos magic.

Crazy, right? In a galaxy where blue people exist and humans have found a way to colonize planets, red magic wouldn't be too farfetched.

That would be absolutely wild—Spider awakening as a Chaos witch in a moment of extreme pain and trauma, unleashing a force that he never knew existed. It would make him a terrifying and awe-inspiring figure on Pandora, a force of nature devoted to Eywa and the planet of his birth. Throw in Kiri, and you've got two overpowered siblings.

Anyway, here's a drabble:

Captured by the RDA, Spider endures days of torture as they demand the location of the Sullys. They push him past his limits—electric shocks, water deprivation, beatings—until something inside him snaps. It’s not just pain that fuels the transformation, but sheer, unfiltered rage. He had spent his entire life being nothing but a pawn to everyone. A demon to the Na’vi, a prisoner to the RDA, an afterthought to the humans of Hell's Gate. No more.

The air distorts. The room trembles. A deep crimson glow seeps from Spider’s fingers, crackling and sparking like liquid fire. He doesn’t think—doesn’t even understand what’s happening—before an explosion of red chaos energy erupts outward, flaying the RDA soldiers alive. Metal warps and melts, bodies twist and contort, their screams merging into a sickening cacophony of agony. Blood paints the walls.

Quaritch barely has time to register what’s happening before he bursts apart, his entire form breaking down on a molecular level.

Spider stands at the epicenter of the carnage, breath heaving, eyes glowing a deep, menacing crimson. His feet leave the floor as he ascends, floating weightlessly, surrounded by swirling tendrils of chaotic energy. He looks down at the ruin he has created, the shredded remains of his captors, the metal reduced to slag.

And for the first time in his life, Spider feels powerful.

He doesn’t run. He doesn’t hide. He flies, the red glow of his magic cutting across the Pandoran sky like a falling star of crimson.

The Omatikaya stare in shock as he arrives, his form wreathed in pulsing red light. He doesn’t wait for their judgment. He knows what he must do. The RDA has taken everything from him, from the Na'vi, from Eywa, from this world. Jake Sully had done what he could, but these demons were relentless in their pursuit for more. Never again.

With a single whisper, the forest bends to his will. The skies darken. The very fabric of reality trembles as he vanishes in a flicker of crimson energy, reappearing in the heart of Bridgehead City.

And then, with a single motion of his hand, he tears it apart.

Buildings collapse. Mechs crumple like paper. Soldiers scream as the very air around them shreds them into nothing. There is no mercy, no hesitation—only raw, undiluted vengeance. The Wrath of Eywa.

Spider doesn’t stop until the RDA is gone. Until their machines are dust, their weapons are ruins, and the very land they corrupted is cleansed by his power. As the last embers of destruction fade, he stands amidst the wreckage, his red eyes burning like twin suns. He is no longer just a stray human, no longer the son of a demon.

He is the harbinger of chaos.

And Pandora is his to protect.

[cosmik-homo]

Absolute Pacifism may not be your cup of tea, and it is far from- universally effective or even universally morally correct. But it's a perfectly respectable and reasonable personal lifestyle that you're batting for the wrong team if you're knocking down, and more importantly- it's a tool. It's a very, very powerful thought-stopping-stopping tool. Having a clean clear line that one won't cross is vitally important when dealing with such emotional matters as Danger and Pain and handling such important irreversible decisions as life or death. When you refuse to believe in the death-deservance of the most vile possible person a lot of propaganda stops working on you. But also. Everyone and their mother thinks they only believe in or deploy extreme violence as a Last Resort Solution.

Absolute pacifism tells us Nah. You're not there yet. Laster resort than this. Wait and try again. Taking a great risk on the offchance of unlikely kindness is a choice. losing is a choice. dying is a choice. you are not yet at the bottom of the ladder. Do you really need violence as much as you think? What is it's price?

I'm not an Absolute Pacifist. I do think Sometimes some harm can be important to disrupt systems of evil. But I also eye with deep, deep suspicion anyone who lacks patiance or disparages personal decision on this spectrum. Each according to his means etc- if you don't see well a comrade that refuses any violent actions and can't imagine Anything else useful or helpful they can do, you're probably far too focused on your violence to offer useful solutions.

[dirtytransmasc]

no matter how hard they tried to pit you guys against each other, they could never make me hate any of you

just cause I like one, doesn't mean I have to hate the others. I love all 4 of my silly little babies.

[idk-bruh-20]

Irondad fic ideas #125

AU where Thanos never happened and the Rogues eventually return. They've been pardoned and they're supposed to get the team back together, but there's still tension. A lot has changed.

Tony has told them repeatedly to never call in Spider-Man for backup. Steve doesn't understand or approve. He assumes Tony is just holding a grudge, trying to keep this new, obviously powerful recruit on his own side. 

One day, Tony is caught up in SI business somewhere when a mission comes up, and they need extra hands. Steve decides to call in Spider-Man.

At first the mission goes smoothly, but then of course things take a turn. All hell breaks loose.

Tony taps into comms not long after to tell them he's on his way. He's left his meeting and is flying as fast as he can, though he's still a long way out. Somehow, Tony figures out that Peter is there. (Maybe he overhears Peter quipping, maybe Steve casually references Spider-Man.)

One way or another, he figures it out. He goes deadly quiet, then switches to a private comm with just Steve.

Tony is betrayed, aggravated, terrified and trying to bury it (and not doing a very good job), and honestly kind of bitter and insulted that Steve can't hear his obvious fear. Steve is annoyed at Tony's childish stubbornness, assumes the man is just mad at things not going his way. Still in the midst of battle, he dismisses Tony's concerns.

Then, Spider-Man gets hurt. Bad. Tony had already been frantically trying to get there faster when he heard the kid was there, but he still doesn't arrive in time.

At some point -- maybe there on the battlefield, maybe later in med bay when Steve arrives to chew Tony out for leaving with Spider-Man instead of staying to help -- at some point it becomes abundantly clear that Peter is Tony's son.

(Bio, adopted, emotional, doesn't matter)

It becomes clear that Tony wasn't making Spider-Man off-limits for selfish reasons. Steve, blinded by his own view of Tony, was unbelievably wrong. 

It turns out, he had just been trying to keep his son safe.

Bonus:

If the reveal does happen later in med bay, there could even be a moment after the battle where Steve, fuming about Tony's lack of help and general inability to be a team player, is intercepted by Rhodey.

Maybe Rhodey arrived just after Tony (flying from the same meeting, but Tony freaked out and raced ahead) and then stuck around to help finish the fight. His reaction to Steve's unempathetic and baseless reading of his best friend is stone cold.

Bonus 2:

Steve fails to notice or understand Rhodey's meaning. Then he gets to med bay and is faced with the image of Tony holding a sleeping Peter on the hospital bed, glaring right across the room at him.

Both of them completely aware of what Steve had assumed, all these years, about the kind of person Tony was

[berrrydameyve]

I like to think that Pavitr has naturally glaring eyes, so he has to conciously open his eyes wider and be more expressive with his eyebrows to not look like a psycho and also to match with his personality (I have first hand expreience of that) and after doing this for a long time it's an unconcious habit so when he gets too concentrated or tired people go "omg Pav are you okay?" "What happened??" And when he unconciously adjusts his expressions again they let out a sigh of relief.

[be-the-glenn-to-my-maggie]

Explain then why did he save quaritch? I think he should have died instead of Neteyam but I'm willingly to listen and understand him if you explain him.

Next time, if you want me to answer a question, ask me a question. That's generally how these thing work. If you're willing to listen to me, you have to actually ask me to tell you something first.

So, there are two major reasons that Spider saved Quaritch. One, because he felt like he owed him. Quaritch put down his knife to save Spider, regardless of wether or not Neytiri would have killed him, which is debatable in fandom. Quaritch believed she would and tried to save Spider's life. Quaritch and Spider had developed a Stockholm/Lima syndrome type relationship. Spider has been neglected his whole life, and attention, even abusive and unhealthy, felt fucking great. Two, Spider was raised essentially Na'vi. All life is precious to the Na'vi. He did not go looking for Quaritch to save him; he was looking for Jake, Neytiri, and Tuk, and hoping to save them. He was unable to leave someone behind to die. He didn't seem to have a problem with Quaritch being killed when it wasn't on his hands, he didn't go looking to save Quaritch from the shipwreck.

Now on another note, narratively, here is why the story would be a hell of a lot worse if Spider died instead of Neteyam. Stories are about conflict, you understand? Neteyam's death and Spider's survival cause a fuck of a lot more conflict and character development than the other way around does. In fact, Spider's death and Neteyam's survival kind of wraps everything up in a neat little bow. All the Sully kids live, Jake and Neytiri never have to confront their neglect of Spider, Quaritch is dead and no longer haunting the family, Neytiri never has to confront her trauma in relationship to humans and Spider, there is no guilt storyline for Lo'ak to have that mirrors Jake that will push him to develop, and everyone can mourn him and move on.

Quite simply put, if Neteyam lived and Spider died, the next few movies would be pretty boring based off of what they had set up in this one.