#does trevor have a partner of some sort? idk

[tunemyart]

I mean, I know that the reason Trevor Langan keeps popping up on SVU after all this time is bc the actor is married to Mariska Hargitay, and anytime they're each other's "dates" to a thing it's just meta but... imagine. if all of this is all just setting up surprise!Olivia Benson/Trevor Langan endgame.

[trevors-mommy-issues]

Trevor Philips Kinks

Just some headcanons on what I think Trevor's kinks would be and some in-depth explanations. ;) I've got some ideas for Michael too that I might post later. Idk if anyone will even see this but! Under the cut for obvious reasons. Let me know if you guys want more of these for other characters!

CW/Mentioned Kinks: Breeding, Choking, Dirty Talk, Praise, Piss Kink, Rough Sex, Exibitionism/Public Sex, Degradation, Biting Kink, Predator/Prey, Dom/Sub Dynamics, Dacryphilia (crying/tears)

Giving:

-Breeding: Doesn't actually want kids, but loves the idea of knocking his partner up and leaving them dripping with his cum. It's also about control and possession over his partner for him; you're his and no one else's. Only he gets to see you this way.

-Dirty Talk: Trevor says the filthiest fucking shit when he's balls deep inside of you and once he starts running his mouth he just can't stop. Every other word is profanity and he is extremely vocal about how he's feeling and the things he's thinking about during sex. And speaking of...

-Praising: Oh, he'll praise you if you're doing a good job alright, but usually in a demeaning or dirty way. Sometimes it's simple phrases like "You're so fucking good," and other times it's along the lines of, "You like it rough, huh? 'Course you do. Fucking take it, fuck-! Such a good cumslut!" Like I said, everything that comes out of his mouth during sex is absolute filth.

-Rough Sex: Trevor's all about rough; there's hardly ever anything gentle about the way he handles you during sex. He'll pull at your hair, push your face into the pillow, and manhandle you into whichever position he wants. However, his favorite place to grab at is your chest and hips. He's 100% a boob guy but also loves to grip you by your sides to put a little more oomf into his thrusts. He'll leave bruises where his fingers were digging into your skin from the force of his grip; you're probably going to be sore in the morning.

-Foreplay: Actually likes foreplay a lot, but gets tired of it really quickly and wants to get to the main act ASAP. If he had a little bit more patience, then he might drag it out and make it last a bit longer. Really enjoys skin to skin contact in general (though he won't openly admit it), so he's extremely handsy. Also loves the feeling of you squeezing around his fingers while you cum.

-Choking: Again, it's a control thing. It's less about actually choking his partner and more about having his hand wrapped around their throat in such a way that it reminds them that he's the one in control of the situation and, consequently, them. He's the one calling the shots here.

-Exhibitionism/Public Sex: Trevor can and will fuck his partner in public, whether it's in his vehicle, on his front porch, or in a not-so-private booth in the strip club. He doesn't care who sees. If he's in the mood, then he's in the mood. In fact, it gets him riled up if he knows he has an audience- might as well give them a show, right?

-Piss Kink: It's not his first time with this and it won't be his last. In or on you, Trevor does NOT care either way. For him it's mostly about defiling/corrupting his partner, but it's also about feeling possessive over them and "marking" them as his. And sometimes he just gets the urge to piss during sex and, well... Trevor isn't exactly shy or shameful about what turns him on and gets him going. If it gets him off, it gets him off- piss kink included.

-Degradation: Kind of self explanatory. If you manage to piss Trevor off, he will absolutely degrade you and shame you. He'll call you all sorts of names and insults, and once he figures out what sort of things you like in the bedroom, he will use it against you and make you wish you'd never said a thing about it. He's also not above kink shaming his own partner even if he's into some really heavy kinks himself. Tread lightly, here!

-Biting: Don't be surprised if at one point he just decides to sink his teeth into you while the two of you are going at it. He mostly does it during foreplay/when he's flirting, but he loves nipping and biting at your skin, especially in places where you're extra sensitive. If you make any sort of noise or give him any indication that he's found a weak spot of yours, he will relentlessly attack it with his mouth and leave behind purple bruises, sometimes even teeth marks.

Predator/Prey: He's got a thing for chasing down his partner and cornering them so that they feel helpless and completely at his mercy. Consensually, that is! A little bit of fear never hurt anyone, right? He also really enjoys the chase itself and will taunt his partner the whole time it happens. "Oh come on, what are you so afraid of, hm!? It's not like I'll hurt you...much! I WILL find you. And when I find you, I'll-" He's too busy laughing absurdly to himself to finish his sentence. Trust me...you didn't want to hear the end of it anyway.

Receiving:

-Praise Kink: Tell him he's doing a good job. Tell him how good he's making you feel, tell him he's the best fuck you've ever had, tell him he's so fucking good. He eats that shit up. It'll stir him up and really get him going if he wasn't rearing to go already. Careful though, he might not last long like that!

-Piss Kink: Likes it because it's seen as taboo for most. But he likes being dirty and depraved, so go ahead- piss all over his cock. He fucking loves it.

-Finishing Last: Believe it or not, this man actually gets off on getting you off first. He likes watching your body tense under him and how your face twists up in pleasure, and he absolutely loves the feeling of you squeezing around his dick. Often times he can't finish until you do, but once you've had yours then he'll go after his.

-Dom/Sub Dynamics: Ocassionally, Trevor will let you take the lead and boss him around a bit, but only of his own volition. He enjoys letting someone else take control for a while, but could just as easily turn the tables back around on you, so you'd be wise to treat him nicely during this time. He gets particularly needy and clingy when he's submissive, but don't expect him to admit it later on- he'd rather die first. And if you ever tell anyone what he's like as a sub? Well...you'd better start running. Like, now. If he manages to catch you (he will), he'll reverse your roles and show you exactly how dominate he can be.

Possible Turn Offs:

-Dacryphilia (crying): Gets overwhelmed and panics if his partner starts crying, even if from pleasure. It just stresses him out, mostly because it makes him feel out of control and he's not sure how to handle the situation. That in turn makes him feel pissed off and angry (not at his partner, but at himself). Watery eyes are one thing, but any tears and he starts losing his shit (and not in the good way).

[canmom]

wow there’s so much guro that’s just... kinfa disappointingly boring lmao. cw this is quite nsfw introspective analysis of a very niche fetish thing so like. no pictures but, you know. take care.

idk my intro to this fetish was p indirect, like a certain episode of aeon flux that left a very strong impression, or like, mangas i read as a teen like junji ito’s stuff or the extremely nihilistic gantz (wonder if that would hold up on a reread... doubtful). for a long while i was in denial and would never tell anyone about the content of those fantasies but idk, something has finally shifted there (possibly too far to the other side).

i have a vague theory about the desired vibe and what makes it work but it’s still kinda half-baked. i think it’s like, emotionally you need something there: the standbys are a degree of irony or contradiction, (e.g. the person is enjoying getting disembowelled or dismembered and we’re invited to share in that, or looking serene as their head turns into a kind of anatomical spiral), perhaps framing the scene as something very intimate, or at least like just you take the effort to build up some emotional intensity so it’s not just generic hentai personality activates ahegao mode. which requires putting the effort to like, impart them actual subjectivity through whatever means you see as appropriate! you lose that entirely if the implied pov is a vague masculine figure doing the violence, like if the message is ‘imagine fucking up this girl like meat’ it’s like, eh. this isn’t actually what i’m looking for, i want to take the girl’s pov!

the aeon flux episode that i remembered most, of everything in that show, does a lot of things: we have this very off-kilter situation where a woman is trying to escape from a country across a dangerous militarised border (she can see the other side from ehr window), and damages her spine. the surgery is performed by trevor, the dictator, and framed as a sex thing which can be seen across the border. when she’s not trying to escape, or using her broken spine to wriggle halfway through the border wall to kiss her partner, the woman works at a factory making an unidentifiable gadget. on her final attempt, she finally makes it halfway across the border gate, only to have the machines she was creating pop out, sever her legs, and then immediately sew up the wound so like her legs are on one side and the rest of her is on the other. the whole episode’s project is to develop a certain, extremely powerful vibe; without the buildup, the final scene on its own wouldn’t be nearly so affecting. it’s technically all sfw, but that episode really helped install something in younger!bryn... i’d never seen anything like that.

one thing i used to fantasise about a lot was like... gadgets where someone would have to like stick their arm in a hole to press a button or something and that would achieve a desired end but also cause a guillotine blade to come down and cut it off (which may be the end in itself!). i guess a key part of it was that this was always deliberate (the same goes for cyborg surgery). a little while ago, [a certain person :p] linked me this picture where like a girl was in a contraption with various blades poised to cut her limbs off/expose her guts/etc. but she had to like, press buttons to activate them (and, predictably, did), and she couldn’t have picked a better picture to convince me to just admit ok yes i like this stuff lmao. for a while i thought of this as like, oh, i’m a coward, even in safe fantasy land i can’t just admit i’m into guro without carefully constructing a constrained segment that is sanitised and very clearly labelled as consensual, but actually a quick survey of what reddit (lol) thinks is good guro convinces me that no, it’s much narrower than just ‘ppl get bits cut off’.

another component that seems to be good for me is like, a certain sort of unphysicalness/fascination with anatomical detail. that is, cuts are extremely perfect and clean and show a cross-section of the body. this is a big part of what makes kago’s work so effective, like it’s spirals and stuff but they’re informed by actual anatomical structures. i think it’s like... poking at the fascination with all this mysterious matter inside us... the elegant structures that we never see when we’re alive. i was very fascinated with the process of GRS, the way bits of flesh can be like cut apart and pulled through each other and sewn back up. (even if i have complicated feelings about the result.)

still need to poke at the contours of this one but hey, i can draw now, so i’ll make stuff that I like and idk, maybe other people will be into it too. if that’s not your thing then like, valid lol, i won’t just be drawing this stuff but it’s been pretty fun to like... let that out and discover that actually it’s not evil and my friends might even enjoy the stuff i make >///<

[hazelcephalopod]

My Shameless unpopular opinions.

Disclaimer: I watched after the show fully ended and had read some of the synopsis for seasons and some episodes. No regrets but I’m sure it’s one reasons I’ve got some of these opinions. Also not actually sure if their that unpopular.

Btw it’s pretty long

Honestly every time Frank failed to die or be murdered was a disappointment to me

Fiona as a character makes sense honestly and her arc is good -in a trash fire way- but fuck do I never want to rewatch any of her relationship drama ever again. Or the landlord shit

Lips story and arc were really good. He just wasn’t a success story, it wasn’t fun or happy but it was realistic. He didn’t have the tools or desire to succeed at what everyone was pushing him to. The pressure sure didn’t help either

Lips rxn to Fiona after she starts to spiral in season 4 is b/c she’s basically his parent. He’s always been able to rely on her, the season before she promised safety and security by becoming the kids -including him at the time- guardian and her actions in season 4 feel like a betrayal to him. Like the rest of the kids this sort of behavior is a huge trigger and he looses tolerance for it overtime from being burned so much, he doesn’t want himself or the others to be a victim to that behavior anymore. (Which isn’t to say he never does similar thing but it’s more complicated than just hypocritical)

Ian and Mickey breaking up at the end of season 5 was good for them. Ian needed to figure out and accept his shit outside of a relationship. Mickey probably did too and it’s a shame we didn’t get to see more of that.

Caleb and Trevor deserved better from the writers and fans. They weren’t long term compatible with Ian but they were ok relationship partners and decent people.

I must restate Caleb especially deserved better. Idk what that shit at the end was for his story but fuck that

Trevors rxn to Monica was fair. We never see Ian fully explain his issues with her to him, and i honestly don’t believe he ever went into detail. Bc- Being with Trevor was an ideal to him, I think Ian admired him because he idealized him as a great person, when he was just a dude who had a job that did a lot of good. He fucked up with Ian there but that’s because he’s a flawed person too

Wish the story had allowed Trevor and Ian to remain friends.

Debbie is a good character. Not a great person but there’s reasons she’s the way she is. Because…

All the kids could have used mental health services and it’s a shame we didn’t get more of that. All of them probably have something or the other in terms of mental illness (outside of what was explored with some of them)

Like Lip for instance clearly has some intimacy issues stemming from a variety of problems and

The show definitely could have explored better how fucked up sexual and romantic relationships fucked everyone up. And I mean everyone

As well as their trauma in general in a srs way. (Don’t think this one is unpopular tho)

Chucky deserved better and how he was treated was awful. Hope he’s happy with Queenie

Debbie should not have had a baby but Fiona should have given her longer before she *had to* pay rent after having Fanny. As a whole that was handled poorly. She was still only 16. Not that I don’t understand why Fiona did it, she did have reasons.

The Gay Jesus storyline wasn’t that bad. No worse then Frank becoming the Pauper Tyrant of the South side. I’ve seen worse plots and didn’t even rank that low. Ian didn’t actually mean to start a movement, he just went of his meds and was too charismatic for his own good. Also I enjoyed watching it, homophobes being verbally torn apart was pretty cathartic for me *shrug*

I’m torn between feeling kinda like the writers sucked a bit at writing women and were a bit misogynistic. On the other hand they gave a lot of interesting stories to the women

I hate a lot of what Svetlana did but I liked her character. And what she did made sense for her

Vee deserved better. Also she shoulda just been bi

Carl becoming a cop makes sense. Like… he probably wouldn’t remain a cop but he would become one

Season 11 wasn’t that bad. It wasn’t the best season of a show but it was fine.

Coulda used another round or two of editing

Ian and Mickey having a rocky marriage to start makes sense. They’re about 25, emotionally stunted, and lack good relationship models.

Also trying out being poly makes sense for this reason. Tbh wanting to explore sexual relationships with others but only with each other makes sense, especially for Mickey. Ian is -and I don’t say this as an insult- promiscuous, and Mickey is probably curious, but happily married and too repressed to explore that on his own. So ya, that’s fine imo

Lip and Tami are probably doomed but that’s ok

Lip is kinda a jerk but I still like him

There isn’t really a right answer to selling the house or not IMO. Everyone had fair arguments but they sucked at communicating effectively or healthily.

Frank dying of COVID was fine by me. Honestly wish it had happened a bit slower is all.

That said personally I wish they’d gone deeper into exploring how everyone dealt with COVID as a whole. An episode where they were all in quarantine together would have been interesting.

Liam did deserve much better though.

And they didn’t need to bring back Fiona to talk about her

I think this one is more popular but I also want to say this show wasn’t as funny as it wanted to be or thought it was. The drama was excellent tho, and it still was sometimes funny just didn’t land all it’s “jokes”

I think I’m far enough down just to throw out (aka 2 headcanons and 1 extra point)-

- I think Carl and Mickey are autistic or something. Maybe Debbie too *shrug*

- One or two of the kids shoulda been bi. Clearly Fiona but also Lip or Carl.

- Jody was kinda a creep. Why did a 30 something yr old man marry a teenager?

[vagrantblvrd]

I would love anything Turnfreewood!

Lol, I was sorting my music collection when I had the perfect idea for your prompt, friend!

Vaguely noir-ish AU inspired by some songs from the game Contrast?

Private detective Ryan who used to be a cop before he left the police force.

Something, something, something shady business going on with corrupt cops and the like and idealistic idiot that he was he tried to expose it? But the baddies found out what he was doing and went after his partner, got them killed.

And Ryan, he’s not overly idealistic or anything, but he’s young, right. Got a real good look at how high the corrutption he was trying to expose went. How far-reaching, and in case he hadn’t realized that for himself he gets some visitors not long afterward.

Nice. Friendly. Letting him know if he kept pushing things his family might meet with some trouble of their own. (Ryan can’t be everywhere, you know? Can’t be on guard 24/7 to look out for the people closest to him - RIP his partner, btw - and so on.

The usual.

So Ryan.

He hates it, but they have a point, don’t they.

He’s just this little idiot in over his head and tells his family and friends some story about being forced to face his mortality while he was bleeding out in that alley with his partner. Waiting for backup that got there too late to do his partner any good, almost too late to save him and he lost the taste for being a cop.

Quits the force and leaves town (runs away) and kicks around for a little bit, gets all bitter and cynical and such and has these ~adventures that land him in, idk. Achievement City or Los Santos or somewhere.

(This feeling in the back of his head that things aren’t over, and he’ll have to face up to it sooner or later but that’s a future problem and why not try to forget about it for now?)

The kind of adventures where someone jokes he should become a private investigator because he’s more or less been solving crimes/cases in those adventures of his?

Supposed to be a joke, but it’s not like Ryan’s got anything else going on in his life at the moment, so private investigator it is!

Leases a little office somewhere and somehow manages to pull in enough business to pay the bills and tuck some away towards his savings. (Has to dip into said savings every so often for repairs/medical bills/whatever caused by cases and all that.)

And then one day someone walks into his office with a case. Something to do with a dead relative and a missing will. Or maybe it’s someone being blakmailed and someone mentioned Ryan as being both reliable and discreet and all that good stuff. (That, Ryan suspects, or no one would miss him/be all that bothered/surprised he got in over his head on one of his cases.)

Whichever it is, he’s in enough trouble financial-wise the money he’s being offered is too good to pass up, or worse? The client mentions the name of someone Ryan owes big-time who sent the client his direction with the expectation Ryan would know better than to say no.

SO.

Ryan takes the case and does all this Private Investigating.

Goes to his usual contacts and snitches around the city. Trustworthy and reliable ones and ones he can trust to look out for their own best interests and bribe/threaten them for what information he can get out of them. (And then figure out what’s true and bold-faced lies and working from there.)

Gets followed by Suspicious Sorts. Offered money to drop the case and send his client looking elsewhere for help and all that.

Gets into a back alley scuffle where he doesn’t quite come out on top but doesn’t leave with his tail between his legs either.

Goes to ground for a bit while he puzzles over what he knows, maybe goes to see his buddy in the police department here, and boy is Geoff ever not thrilled to see him.

“Seems like the only time I see you around is when you need something, Haywood,”

And Ryan being all scruffy and charming at him until Geoff sighs and tells him to go find Jack who will be able to give him what they’re allowed to without crossing any lines with ethics and the whatnot.

Jack is just as not-thrilled to see Ryan - goes all “What’s with the black eye?” the same way Geoff did and sighs as he hands over the files Ryan asks for. Tells him he’s an idiot and that Geoff and Jack didn’t see him, haven’t seen him in weeks. (And for fuck’s sake, don’t get killed idiot. the paperwork’s a bitch.)

Ryan all lol as he takes the files home with him and goes over them there. Just as confused about what the hell he’s gotten himself into this time, but!

There’s this one clue that has him sighing because he knows someone who knows someone who might - might - help.

Just has to do a little begging first.

SO.

He goes down to this little bar Meg runs with live singers and performers and all that? Trevor at the piano who flirts outrageously with Alfredo who’s one of the bouncers along with Jeremy.

Lindsay’s there doing whatever it is Lindsay feels like most days as far as Ryan can figure out? Michael’s a bartender/bouncer/whatever along with Fiona, and every once in a while one or both of them end up on stage because reasons?

All that.

Meg performs a few times a week, sings and dances or whatever else and sometimes Ryan heads there when he’s not working on a case because it’s one of the few places in town he’s actually welcome with open arms and all that.

Mariel handles most of the business side of things and Tyler is in charge of security and the like? (Something???)

Anyway.

Odds are good there are more things going on there than what the public sees - Meg and the others know way too much about what goes on in the city to explain otherwise - but Ryan’s never asked, (Learned better than that a long time ago.)

The first time he goes there during his current case Meg’s rehearsing on stage.

Middle of the afternoon and the place is closed to customers, but Ryan’s got a standing invitation to come by anytime he feels like it and everything. Good friends with Meg and the main players there and on good terms with everyone else.

Ryan walks in just as Meg starts singing this song, smiles when she looks over and catches his eye because they’ve got this Complicated relationship going on, you know?

On and off again and no hurt feelings (well, anymore, but all the grief she gives him is definitely deserved, okay.)

When she finishes the song she shoos everyone else working to deal with bar business and whatnot and takes Ryan over to a corner booth to talk business because he’s got the look he gets when he’s on a case.

When he fills her in on what he’s been up to the last few days she just. Gives him this look because fucking Christ, Ryan’s an idiot?

Getting all tangled up in Serious Business and such and oh, honey. That black eye looks awful.

Some flirting and concern and Meg despairing of Ryan and his life choices before she gives in and tells him what she can, promises to ask around for him, and oh, hey.

Maybe go see Gavin and what he can dig up for Ryan?

Which.

Yikes, because Gavin is part of this Complicated relationship Ryan has with Meg?

Part of this on again off again relationship the three of them ever quite manage to make work - timing’s always off and all that - but the times it does work are pretty great?

Just.

He’s good with Meg at the moment, but Gavin’s still kind ticked at him?

Something, something, something Ryan on a case and getting Gavin involved and the kind of shenanigans that almost got Gavin killed? Unpleasant reminder Ryan’s not infallible, that he got his old partner killed and oh, God, because he clearly didn’t learn his lesson if he’s putting Gavin - ad Meg - in the line of fire?

So he does what he thinks he has to to drive Gavin away and leaves things between them on a bad note. Meg saw what he was doing and stopped Ryan before he could try it with her too, but she warned him he was making a mistake and that he better apologize to Gavin make it up to Gavin or Ryan would regret it?

So of course he doesn’t, and Meg is just. Not angry, just disappointed and while Gavin figured out why Ryan did what he did, he’s not forgiven him for it. (Yet.)

ANYWAY.

Complicated because Ryan’s an idiot and Meg and Gavin are definitely aware of that fact, yes, Waiting for Ryan to get his shit together and figure out what he wants.

(In the meantime they’re..not-quite in a relationship? Like. Showing up as one another’s plus one at functions and seeing movies or going out to dinner together and such but aren’t Officially Dating, because waiting on their idiot and all.)

Ryan goes off to see Gavin who’s like. Freelance photographer or hacker or something, and they argue and bicker. Are about to move on to bantering, like maybe they’re ready to start dealing with their idiot issues when the guys who have been trying to intimidate Ryan into dropping his case make a move.

The whole fight in a dark alley/street and running from the baddies to end up back at Meg’s bar after closing time.

She’s just.

SIGH at these idiots and sits them down at that back corner booth to path themselves up/talk and goes to give them privacy as she deals with…other stuff? IDK.

Ryan and Gavin are patching one another up and don’t realize Meg’s finished up in her office and is playing a song over at the piano as tjhey talk and Ryan apologizes to Gavin.

But when they do, they look over and Meg’s got this little grin on her face because ridiculous and then like.

Smooches, probably?

More shenanigans that involve at least one (1) gunfight and a kidnapping or two (Gavin, of course and he’s super not thrilled at always being the damsel in distress, but Meg thinks it’s hilarious.)

A car chase and/or cat and mouse scene in an abandoned warehouse and Ryan solving his case to the relief/delight of his client and Ryan being like Jesus Christ, why does he keep doing this to himself? because he’s all bruised and battered and his car is probably a complete loss as far as the insurance company is concerned.

In the end he breaks even financially, but he’s made up with Gavin and has a date that Friday night with him and Meg and hey, things could have gone worse???

(That whole bit about his Tragic Backstory RE his former career as a cop definitely comes back to bite him in the ass in a future adventure, too. Wacky, zany adventures with many life-threatening moments and close calls with Meg and Gavin and good guys putting the bad guys in their places and more smooches before the credits roll. Or…something, yes.)

[dandymeowth]

More “wtf REGs” posts, captions under cut.

In the first post we see an aphobe stating that inclusionists don’t contribute anything and therefore don’t belong, are wrong, etc. 

Which is some hilariously capitalist type bullshit; valuing people, defining their worth based on whether or how much they “contribute” is some hot nasty garbage that targets the marginalized on a regular basis. It’s another example of these types just recycling oppressive rhetoric, a matter of kicking down.

Let alone defining whether we’re properly LGBT+ or just oppressive traitors based on how much we can contribute has all sorts of fucky implications to it. But I can’t expect much from aphobes anymore.

(Not to mention that since most major LGBT+ organizations accept asexuality, inclusionists obviously contribute.)

The second post started with some regular acephobic bullshit that isn’t anything new, but in the replies known aphobe figuregayting states that same gender attraction is required of bisexuals otherwise we’re just fetishisizing nonbinary people (sorry agender and nonbinary bisexuals I guess we don’t exist), that it’s impossible to be attracted to a binary gender and other genders rather than both binary genders and other genders. 

Which also isn’t anything new but they brought in a lovely twist where if a man were to be attracted to women and dated a DFAB nonbinary person, they’re still straight and can’t call themselves bi because they’re still “just attracted to women”. 

They claim the man would be misgendering them by dating them, while simultaneously saying the man can’t call himself bi for it, which is... some hilarious shit because like, you might have a point on the misgendering if the guy insisted on his straightness despite their identity, but you outright say he’s not allowed to identify as bi “just because of finding someone of another gender attractive” (even though that’s the fucking definition of being bi but lol). 

So who’s actually misgendering the person - the asshole saying their man partner is still straight no matter what their gender is because they’re DFAB either way, or the man wanting to identify as bi now that he’s found he’s attracted to someone of a different gender? Seriously.

Again, captions are under cut:

Three screencaps showing two different posts, the first cap being of a post by menacinglavenderr, and the next two being of replies on a post by sapphics.

The first screencap reads:

menacinglavenderr: find me one ace inclusionist that contributes anything to the wlw and mlm communities that isn’t cutesy pastel edits and posts about how not having sex won’t get you sent to hell

bihets: i mean people aren’t only worthy of being in wlw/mlm communities and deserving of resources based on how much they ‘contribute’, that’s some neoliberal capitalist bullshit right there

that said, like… glaad and the trevor project are both MASSIVE lgbt+ organizations that are ace inclusive, so idk what your point is

autistictaramaclay: the op is so specific too. like .. how abt u name an ace exclusionist that’s done things for the wlw and mlm communities?

menacinglavenderr: um, aces are the ones in a privileged group. you don’t get to demand anything from me bc I’m oppressed and aces aren’t. also, you have no fucking right to talk back to me like that.

autistictaramaclay: “aces are the ones in a privileged group” ah yes, i, the trans poc aro, am privileged. all aces and all aros are privileged no matter what, purely because theyre ace or aro. ok

aphobephobe: “Don’t talk back to me like that” you’re not it’s mother, so you can just stop yourself right there and maybe try not to act like the Queen of Everything Who May Not Be Disagreed With.

The next two screencaps have annotations to them and added emphasis, and read as follows:

figuregayting: You need same gender attraction to be bi. A cis guy attracted to women and women aligned people dating a nb person who’s afab isn’t LGBT, he’s just a cis guy ignoring his partners gender orientation. It’s gross and doesn’t make you LGBT @angry-gay-fish

[”If you’re attracted to women and date a DFAB person you’re not LGBT+ because that’s basically just dating another woman”???]

angry-gay-fish: I feel like it’s kind of gross to require the knowledge of someone’s gender assigned at birth before someone can count as LGBTQ+ Why are we ignoring the nb person’s identity? It shouldn’t matter what they were assigned at birth– what matters is what they are now.

figuregayting: No, you’re not understanding. A cis man who is otherwise straight in a relationship with an afab nb person is not LGBT. The nonbinary person is LGBT because they’re nonbinary. He isn’t LGBT just because he’s dating a nb person. That’s what we’re saying.

[Nonbinary people should be considered like binary people in event of relationship with cis people so we can still call them het and fake bi for dating someone who's "still basically (fe)male"]

angry-gay-fish: No, because you’re still saying that what really matters is what they were assigned at birth. If that same nb person were amab, would you say the same? You shouldn’t have to know a person’s assigned gender– it doesn’t matter– all that matters is what they identify as.

figuregayting: …. no I wouldn’t say the same if they were amab because that would make their boyfriend bi ?? ["No, see, by dating a DMAB person he's dating the same gender so he is sga and counts! It doesn't matter if they don't identify as a man, it's still gay because they're basically a guy."] It literally does fucking matter what their agab is when we talk about fetishization. Not all nonbinary people are androgynous. There will always be trans people who don’t pass and gross people who fetishize them hone in on that?? It absolutely does matter and you shouldn’t talk about things you don’t understand.

A cis straight man who starts dating an obviously afab nonbinary person [wtf is “obviously dfab”?] can’t just start calling himself bi once he dates the nonbinary person because he’s most likely fetishizing them and not actually respecting their gender, and that’s why it matters what their agab is. He’s not LGBT for ignoring someone’s gender orientation what the fuck

["you can't call yourself bi if you find out you're attracted to more than one gender, sexuality and orientation is static so you to have identified as bi first and foremost in order to ever be actually bi"]

angry-gay-fish: Woah, hang the fuck on don’t tell me I don’t understand– I’m nonbinary too– you don’t know my experiences and you have no right to tell me that I don’t have a right to talk about this because if effects me too. Yes, people can fetishize nonbinary people, however, by requiring the knowledge of theire agab, all you’re doing is ignoring their gender identity, which is really wrong and misgendering. By saying that that guy is still straight what you’re saying to that nb person is “you’re still really just a girl”

I feel like it’s not really okay to just assume that this person is fetishizing their partner. I mean, this guy very well could have dated other nb people before this one? And he’s not ignoring their gender identity, you are by saying that it doesn’t matter and only their agab matters. Do you see what I mean?

["It is impossible for someone to be bi if they don't like the same gender, it doesn't matter that there's more than 2 genders because you're basically a girl/guy and that's how we're going to see you when a person is dating you so we can properly judge who is and isn't actually bi. Being a man into women and other genders but not men isn't possible, by dating DFAB people you're still just dating women no matter their gender, so you're actually straight."]

diskhorsedudes: Reducing nb people to their agab is like reducing them to their genitals and what kind of rhetoric does that sound like folks? I think you can guess without me saying. Anyways, that’s the issue with “sga”. It’s damaging to nb that aren’t aligned with men and women and can even be damaging to intersex people. Y'all are putting that on nb people without their consent and that’s like misgendering. It’s like y'all see us as just watered down men or women. I really wish exclusionists would drop that argument because it just makes them look enbyphobic and makes them sound terfy/truscummy.

[vagrantblvrd]

'The Payoff' for the fic title meme?

Sounds heist-y, and makes me think about an Leverage-ish AU.

Geoff ends up working for an insurance company because reasons, and becomes an insurance investigator who has ~wacky shenanigans throughout his career.

He’s not super loyal to the company he works for, but it’s a decent job and less boring (so much so) than he was expecting.

After a while he runs into this kid, stupid sticky fingers and no goddamn common sense to him and always, always, always stealing shit he shouldn’t.

“Really?”

“Took you this long to catch up to me, didn’t it?”

And the worst part of it all is that this kid, this stupid idiot kid is actually good. Gets away with some priceless bit or art or some shiny bit of jewelry more often than not. Gets better as he gets older, and snarky as hell.

Annoying little shit who gets into the habit of popping up when Geoff’s at some little cafe having a coffee and trying to read on his day off. Just drops down in the seat across from him, this honestly infuriating smile on his face and sips his coffee like they’re old friends hanging out.

It occurs to Geoff, every once in a while when Gavin pulls this shit to call the cops, someone, tell them an internationally wanted thief is having an espresso in front of him and maybe they could arrest him? Make Geoff’s life a little easier?

But for some unknown reason, he never does it.

Doesn’t do it even when his wallet goes missing and the little shit is nowhere to be seen.

When he goes home, annoyed as hell and finds it sitting on his kitchen counter with a little sticky note with a smiley face on it. When he’s injured from a case or random incident and the little asshole breaks into his place to leave whatever bit of art or jewelry or whatever he was after on his coffee table. (It kind of kills him a little when he knows for a fact Gavin wasn’t behind that particular theft, realizing that he went and stole it from the original thief, and then feelings.)

And then something happens, Geoff’s company fucks someone over and he’s seen it before, he has. There’s something about it this time, maybe a kid’s involved, maybe he’s just tired of seeing the shit they do, but he quits. (Or says he quits, but the company finds out he did the right thing, helped the little guy they were trying to screw over or the kid’s family and they ‘let him go’, but really. He fucking quits.)

Intends to get himself a normal job, do something with his life maybe, who knows.

But someone comes to him about a job, recovering something from a thief and the more he hears the more he realizes Gavin’s involved. (Of course he is.)

He’s out of a job and this guy is offering him a lot of money to track Gavin down, so Geoff decides why not, you know?

And he set off to find Gavin, and when he catches up to him realizes things are a little more complicated than he realized because people are trying to kill them both all of a sudden?

“It’s not 'all of a sudden’ you asshole!” Geoff yells, voice cracking as they duck another spray of bullets. “What the fuck did you steal?”

A briefcase, and when they crack it open they find USB drives or hard drives or something along those lines.

Gavin admits a hacker he works with sometimes contracted him for this job. Had a client who insisted he find the best thief he knew to pull it off.

Gavin tells him a little about the guy while they head to wherever he’s based. Some guy who likes big words and makes dumb jokes and from what Gavin’s saying, the biggest dork in the world.

Geoff’s expecting some cliché computer nerd, and he gets Ryan instead.

“What.”

“Nice to meet you too?”

They leave the hard drives with Ryan and do a little investigating, and end up running into Michael who beats the shit out of some guys who jump them.

“Hey, so. Someone hired me to fuck you up.”

“What?”

“But I figure,” Michael says, like he didn’t just save their asses. “After what happened in Florida, I owed you.”

Geoff looks down at the bruisers groaning into the dirty alley floor who would have absolutely murdered Gavin and him, and says, “Yeah, sure. Sounds good.”

And they go back to Ryan’s nerd lair with this guy with dried blood on his knuckles that Gavin will just not leave alone. (Geoff’s run into Michael a time or two before too. Smart kid with a mouth on him, and usually picky about who he works for.)

Something happens and Geoff takes them to Jack’s to hide out for a bit. Jack who is a civilian in all this, just some normal guy who works for, idk, the news station or something. 

Opens his door and there’s Geoff and these other idiots looking like they’ve been through the wringer and is just, “Again?” as he lets them inside.

Geoff explains what’s going on and Jack just sighs.

Ends up helping these idiots and of course he knows Gavin -

“What, I didn’t tell you?” Jack asks. “We have lunch when he’s in town.”

More shenanigans and then they find out the guy who hired Geoff wants the files because he was trying to double-cross his partner, but his partner double-crossed him first and it’s all super ridiculous and Geoff would just his money, and also not to be horribly murdered, so!

He comes up with a heist of some sort, they end up pulling Lindsay into things, and Michael’s like, “I know a guy,” when Geoff’s like, “Another Hitter would be nice - “

So they go to some underground fighting ring where this idiot in the most horrendous outfit imaginable is beating the hell out of someone twice his size.

“Is he colorblind?”

“No, just an asshole.”

And so Jeremy joins the team, and they do their heist-y-heist and Ryan gets them more money than they were expecting and it’s kind of awkward after that because they’re all in Geoff’s living room and literal millionaires many times over and still eating all his damn food.

They go their own ways for a bit there, but then Geoff gets an e-mail from an unknown sender (WHO COULD IT BE) about some company trying to screw the little guy over, and an address with a date and time a few days from then.

Geoff rolls his eyes, but he goes because what else does he have going on for himself at the moment?

When he gets there he sees this lady who looks downtrodden and yet still bravely soldiering on and is like. “Oh, for God’s sake, really?” as he goes over with his coffee and is starts a conversation with her.

Hears her out and realizes he can’t not help, looks over to where Gavin’s been sitting for the past few minutes delicately sipping at his own drink and says, “Fuck you,” because of course Gavin’s behind this.

Geoff just wants to be a hermit in peace, maybe have a coffee out at cafe once in a while and read his books, but no.

Because there’s a lady who needs help and he knows these other assholes won’t leave him alone until he agrees, and it’s all so very terrible, really it is.

(Lindsay and Trevor come along somewhere down the road, among others, and Geoff’s life is just the worst. It is.)