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#i had to cut this part in half#so i'll post the second half of it tomorrow :>#pokemon#mewtwo#newtwo#mega mewtwo y#babytwo#lycanroc midnight#tyranitar#sneasel#scizor#tw blood#tw severe injury#tw gore#tw disembowelment#tw dismemberment#tw decapitated head#tw infant death#tw character death
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Jean Valjean's Canon Toxic Unhealthiness around Romantic Love
( alternate titles: “Does Jean Valjean is Gay?”, or “Does Jean Valjean is Asexual?” Or: “Why is it so difficult to slap an identity/sexuality label onto Jean Valjean?” Or “LGBTPTSD+”)
I was looking at the responses to this poll about whether people interpret Jean Valjean as gay/asexual/straight or something else….and it got me thinking again about Jean Valjean’s canonical intense, complex, awful, toxic, and overwrought emotions around identity/ romantic love. I want to talk about that for a bit because I think it often gets overlooked in fandom!
I've noticed that Les Mis fandom/analysis often tends to interpret Jean Valjean as being far more content, more "at peace with himself," and more "comfortable in his own skin" than he ever is within the novel. This is also a common change in adaptations. The musical's version of Jean Valjean is great-- but he also seems a lot more self-actualized, more like he's gotten himself completely "figured out" by the end of the story. Other, bad, Les Mis adaptations — the adaptations that generally portray Jean Valjean a worse more violent person — also usually make Jean Valjean more confident in himself, more confident in his own feelings/desires, more certain that he’s entitled to certain things, and more willing to demand or take what he wants.
But one major aspect of book Jean Valjean's personality is that he does not have a healthy relationship with anything about himself. He has a tortured broken relationship with his own identity. He repeatedly thinks about “Jean Valjean” as a person outside of himself, a person who he finds frightening, repulsive, savage, and horrible— like a wild animal he needs to sedate, or beat into submission. He is obsessed with self-denial and self-repression. He is fixated on the idea that he is subhuman, that he is not allowed to want things or to pursue having any kinds of relationships with other people-- and that the most heroic thing he can do is "grab himself by the collar” and violently force himself to stay away from the things he wants. He is desperate to be loved and fixated on being unworthy of love and on denying himself love. He is absolutely not at peace with his identity: to paraphrase Jean Valjean in one of the later chapters, he believes he can only gain inner peace by “eviscerating his own entrails.”
He is never truly content with who he is, what he wants, or what kind of love he wants— and he never learns to be. The novel ends with him cutting himself off from his only family, breaking ties with the only person who loves him, and essentially slowly killing himself out of self-loathing.
There are other characters in Les Mis who seem very content with who they are and what they want. Enjolras is self-assured in his identity, and doesn’t appear to feel like there is any kind of love that is missing from his life. Whether you interpret him as gay or ace or trans or w/e, book!Enjolras is written as someone who is extremely self-assured and has a loving support system that is enough to keep him happy. But I don’t think that’s true for Jean Valjean at all XD.
And that’s why it's hard to apply labels like “aromantic” or “ace” or gay/straight/etc to Jean Valjean, when talking about his canon characterization. Those labels imply the person has a basic level of comfort with acknowledging their own desires/lack of desire/identity. And Jean Valjean never achieves that level of comfort. What “label” do you give to someone whose relationship with their identity is “I do not belong in a family, I have no right to want things, I have no right to be happy, I am outside of life, and I will never be at peace until I eviscerate my own entrails?” Is there a “self-disembowelment" pride flag? XD I've seen a lot of interpretations that go "Jean Valjean never expresses any interest in romance, he's perfectly content just to have his relationship with his daughter" but I honestly don't think that's true. Jean Valjean tries to content himself with having only Cosette. But part of why everything explodes so catastrophically in the end of the novel is because he needs more than just a paternal relationship. He doesn’t try to have a “normal” father-daughter relationship with Cosette, he tries to force his relationship with Cosette to be literally everything and everyone to him, for her to be his entire world: and it doesn’t work.
There’s a passage in the novel that talks about how all the love Valjean is capable of ends up being suppressed/sublimated into his relationship with Cosette. The love of a brother, of a friend, of a father, of a husband, the love of everything he is capable of, gets repressed so that he can throw every part of himself into being a father. There are Bad les mis adaptations that incorrectly misinterpret that passage to mean that Jean Valjean is incestuous/grooming Cosette. But in context, that’s not what the passage means at all.
The passage specifies very explicitly that Jean Valjean “did not love Cosette otherwise than as a father,” that “no marriage was possible between them,” that his feelings for her are absolutely paternal. But the passage does show how Jean Valjean is doing a very different unhealthy thing: he’s relying on Cosette to fill every single emotional void in his life.
He’s relying on parenthood to fill the grief/emptiness left behind by all the other kinds of love that he has wanted, but never been given.
To quote a bit of that passage:
Jean Valjean did not love Cosette otherwise than as a father (…) Let the reader recall the situation of heart which we have already indicated. No marriage was possible between them; not even that of souls; and yet, it is certain that their destinies were wedded. With the exception of Cosette, that is to say, with the exception of a childhood, Jean Valjean had never, in the whole of his long life, known anything of that which may be loved. The passions and loves which succeed each other had not produced in him those successive green growths, tender green or dark green, which can be seen in foliage which passes through the winter and in men who pass fifty. In short, and we have insisted on it more than once, all this interior fusion, all this whole, of which the sum total was a lofty virtue, ended in rendering Jean Valjean a father to Cosette. A strange father, forged from the grandfather, the son, the brother, and the husband, that existed in Jean Valjean; a father in whom there was included even a mother; a father who loved Cosette and adored her, and who held that child as his light, his home, his family, his country, his paradise.
Jean Valjean reminds me of a Failmode I’ve seen in a lot of different real-life parents? There are parents who cope with their own hard lives by telling themselves that parenthood is their sole reason for being alive, and who obsess over their child’s success as their only source of purpose, meaning, love, happiness, community, and validation. But it’s a bad idea to rely on one child to provide the emotional support that should be shared by friends, parents, siblings, every possible loved one, etc etc—- One child can’t actually heal you from your trauma, be a replacement for your broken relationships, pull you out of your grief, save you from your adult loneliness, etc etc etc etc.
When I see the common interpretation that Jean Valjean is perfectly content just to be the father of Cosette, I think of this line:
Thus when he saw that the end had absolutely come, that she was escaping from him, that she was slipping from his hands, that she was gliding from him, like a cloud, like water, when he had before his eyes this crushing proof: “another is the goal of her heart, another is the wish of her life; there is a dearest one, I am no longer anything but her father, I no longer exist”; when he could no longer doubt, when he said to himself: “She is going away from me!” the grief which he felt surpassed the bounds of possibility. To have done all that he had done for the purpose of ending like this! And the very idea of being nothing!
On one hand, the terrible Les mis adaptations that portray Valjean as Incest Creep are incorrect and wrong. On the other hand, though, Jean Valjean IS unhealthy about Cosette— just in a different and actually sympathetic way.
He has made fatherhood his only purpose, to replace every other purpose he could have in life. So he can’t be “just Cosette’s father.” He can’t imagine her becoming an adult and leaving the nest, like children do. What does he have if he’s not taking care of her? What is his purpose in life if she doesn’t need him to be her parent? He's not just being her father, he's relying on her to be his entire reason to exist. He hasn't been allowing himself to have things outside of her.
And speaking of things outside of Cosette: segue time. This post was supposed to be about Jean Valjean and romance, so let's switch gears and talk about his canon 'romantic experiences' more:
We’re told that in his youth he “never had a sweetheart” because he “never had time to be in love.” There is no indication that Jean Valjean never wanted to be in love. The opposite is implied. Hugo frames it as a tragedy that Jean Valjean’s does not experience young love; it’s the horror of poverty taking yet another thing from him.
Within prison, Valjean is “gloomy” and “chaste;” when he traumadumps to Montparnasse about it, he talks about women looking on galley slaves with horror and disgust. Romance, at least “normal” heterosexual romance, is no longer something that is permitted for him. Jean Valjean knows very little about romance/love/sex and it repeatedly messes up his life. He spends 19 years in the all-male environment of prison, then about a decade in the almost-all-female environment of the convent. He has very little experience with how men and women are supposed to interact. The oppression Fantine faces as a sex worker, and Cosette's relationship with Marius, are both two big 'blind spots' that he struggles with.
At one point romantic love is described as “The only misery Jean Valjean had not yet experienced, and the only one that is sweet.”
In his massive confession to Marius, he agonizes over how he is not allowed to be part of a family, and is incapable of being part of a home. He compares himself to someone sick and diseased, that poisons good and normal people with his presence, and cannot be allowed to make himself part of their families.
So Jean Valjean doesn’t frame Romance as “a thing he doesn’t want:” it’s a thing “he is not allowed to want,” it is one of the many things he is banned from wanting. It's impossible to tell what kind of things he would want, if he were allowed to want them.
One of the most interesting things to me, however, is his general attitude towards Marius/Cosette.
Obviously his first reaction to Marius snooping around is fear and resentment— he doesn’t know to interact with romance, having never experienced it, and immediately begins catastrophizing. He views Marius as a privileged booby ruining his life for something as frivolous as a love affair: it reads to me as partially envy, envy of the fact that Marius lives the kind of safe comfortable life that allows him to experience young love.
Jean Valjean added: “What does he want? A love affair! A love affair! And I? What! I have been first, the most wretched of men, and then the most unhappy, and I have traversed sixty years of life on my knees, I have suffered everything that man can suffer, I have grown old without having been young, I have lived without a family, without relatives, without friends, without life, without children, I have left my blood on every stone, on every bramble, on every mile-post, along every wall, I have been gentle, though others have been hard to me, and kind, although others have been malicious, I have become an honest man once more, in spite of everything, I have repented of the evil that I have done and have forgiven the evil that has been done to me, and at the moment when I receive my recompense, at the moment when it is all over, at the moment when I am just touching the goal, at the moment when I have what I desire, it is well, it is good, I have paid, I have earned it, all this is to take flight, all this will vanish, and I shall lose Cosette, and I shall lose my life, my joy, my soul, because it has pleased a great booby to come and lounge at the Luxembourg.”
But, even though Jean Valjean views romance as something he isn’t allowed or have or to want, views it as a threat and catastrophizes over how it will ruin his life……he seems to also put heterosexual romance on a pedestal.
The way Jean Valjean idealizes marriage is one of his weirdest character notes for me.
He views marriage as Cosette’s “happy ending.” It’s her “happily ever after” point where she won’t need him anymore, where she won’t need anyone outside of her husband. A Man And a Woman Are Meant to Get Married, It's Fate, and It Means They Will Live Happily Together Forever. Marius is “the goal of her heart, the wish of her life; her dearest one.” Nothing outside of that matters anymore.
He treats her marriage as if romantic love is inherently always more important than any kind of platonic relationships, and always takes priority over them. He later dismisses the unconventional family structure he has with Cosette, saying that despite his love for her he was only a "passerby" and was not actually her real father, because they were not biologically related.
There's a moment where Jean Valjean is described as someone whose ideal is to be angel on the inside and a bourgeois on the outside. Jean Valjean's worship of bourgeois social norms, norms he can never truly be a part of, is one of his character flaws. He has a similar "guard dog" energy as Eponine does when she defends Rue Plumet from her parents.....Eponine and Jean Valjean both become the guard dogs of a kind of romantic relationship they believe they are banned from having. Jean Valjean believes that getting Happily Straight Married in a Middle-Class Home with a Picket Fence(tm) is the ideal path for life....but believes himself broken/incapable of ever following that path. And so he instead throws his entire life into securing that future for Marius and Cosette.
In what manner was Jean Valjean to behave in relation to the happiness of Cosette and Marius? It was he who had willed that happiness, it was he who had brought it about; he had, himself, buried it in his entrails, and at that moment, when he reflected on it, he was able to enjoy the sort of satisfaction which an armorer would experience on recognizing his factory mark on a knife, on withdrawing it, all smoking, from his own breast. Cosette had Marius, Marius possessed Cosette. They had everything, even riches. And this was his doing.
TL: DR:
Jean Valjean's gender/sexuality label is “idk but he’s super fucked up about it.”
#les mis#jean valjean#les mis letters#because i BRIEFLY tied it into Eponine#my idea for a self disembowelment pride flag#is that its like. prometheus and the eagle#but prometheus is into it#not sure how coherent this essay is but I am POasting it
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tht awkward moment when ur an angel but u drop out of angel school and u need to do something to fill the gaping void of life purpose so u attack a random demon but end up falling into a codependent relationship
#blood#gore#guro#demon#angel#disembowelment#oc#panic and malaise#im super glad their other posts found the right audience :)#thank u for supporting their relationship#im normal abt them. dont worry#sorry for abundance of BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD more normal posts to follow
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Cody: *drunk af* Heeeeeeey, babygirl, what’s UP-
Obi-Wan: *on his period, just woke up, too tired to think* Do I look like a girl? Seriously, do I?
Cody: *knows that Stewjoni have a fluid gender spectrum and sometimes his general feels more femme; is drunk and no idea what gender really is tbh* Um… ya?
Obi-Wan: *sits up and starts crying a little* Oh my god that explains so much. Some natborn came up and smacked my ass hard as hell the other day. Felt like he punched my ass, more like, called me Mami!
Cody: Oh my god 👁️👄👁️
Obi-Wan: Does my BEARD look feminine to them???
Cody: *pretty much only has trans sisters* um; I got a few sisters with a beard, idk.
Obi-Wan: *lays back down and screams* I’m going back to bed :(
#star wars#obi wan kenobi#incorrect star wars quotes#clone wars#incorrect clone wars quotes#commander cody#codywan#Cody you karked that one up for sure#stewjoni biology#don’t worry Cody will personally disembowel that natborn when he remembers this convo#he’s just gonna cuddle you rn#it’s all the brainpower he’s got rn#he/they Obi wan
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fantasy au scribbles!!
#ft. bardaby and wall beefing <3#ok yeah im just gonna call possessed wally wall.#cause yk. homes. home. walls. wall.#the alternative options were like. walome. holly. etc. bad options#In My Mind that scribble is the result of barnaby's first time seeing home possess wally#he did not know home could do that! they'd already had a very stressful and bad few months!#both of them were at their limits and were ready to Start Biting!#scribble salad#wh fantasy au#wh au#welcome home au#anyway yeah i gave howdy a lil ponytail. what about it#and his lil magic bullet bandolier <3#ALSO DRAWING THE PUPPETS WITH TEETH IS FUN BUT ALSO VERY STRANGE#I AM NOT USED TO SHOVING CHOMPERS IN THEIR FACES#but in this au they're Real Fleshy Beings so. they need teeth i guess#ok i just wanted to give them teeth in a way that my brain allowed#still very unwell about this lil au btw#my little imaginings have been keeping me going lately#my favorite plotlines at present are bardaby-home bonding / wally & home are separated / ocean adventures / disembowelment <3#fun things all around!
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𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖗 𝕱𝖔𝖔𝖉 art/reuben©hirochuu Thatcher©Coreath
#art#artwork#gore#blood#disembowelment#ocart#reuben#thatcher#hirochuuart#artist#humanartist#gorewarning#originalcharacter#painttoolsai#digitalart#they love each other
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I am SO FUCKING TIRED OF PEOPLE MAKING ARCADE A PUSSY WHAT THE FUCK
STOP MAKING HIM A FUCKING TWINK YOUR COURIER HAS TO SWOOP IN AND SAVE HE’S A SIX FOOT SOMETHING 35 YEAR OLD MAN STOP ACTING LIKE ALL GAY MEN ARE PUSSIES
#THIS IS THE SAME MAN WHOS AGGRESSION LEVEL IS SET AT BRAVE#THIS IS THE SAME MAN WHO DISEMBOWELS HIMSELF FOR HIS BELIEFS#HES NOT GONNA BE SCARED OF SOME FUCKING LEGION SOLDIERS#Ouh courier I’m so scared of the legion pwease hold my hand and point my plasma defender for me#this is how y’all look like when you write him#POV your the courier and you comfort arcade while he’s crying 🥰🥰😍😍😍 FUCK YOU#fallout new vegas#fallout nv#arcade gannon#arcade israel gannon#arcade fnv#fnv arcade#courier six
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You are the angel that I couldn't kill
#Id in alt text#Ultrakill#V1 Ultrakill#Gabriel Ultrakill#Ultrakill V1#Gabv1el#I guess#Every time I draw these two it gets more sacrilegious and more romantic(?)#Romantic isn't the right word. I don't want them to kiss I want them to viscerally disembowel each other. Then they can kiss I guess#Not apologizing for Mother Mother caption though I've been listening to them for years#Anyway before I forget to tag the actual content warnings#CW:#Blood#Religious imagery#That's probably it. All comes with the territory of Ultrakill but. You know how it is.#Hrokkall Art
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#drew cryinggggg#i want to give him a hug#don't worry drew you'll disembowel him one day#even if you have to do it another way😏#cm punk#drew mcintyre#punkintyre#bad blood
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM67qPo8N/
Disembowlable bunny link sorry it's tiktok
no need to apologise, i accept tiktok links like a king accepts offerings of fantastical curiosities brought to his court by brave travellers from far off lands. i will simply never venture to that vile app myself.
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// disembowelment, gore
There's really nothing I love in this world, maybe it's inside myself, whatever is the answer I will be dead before discovering it
Bunch of basils killing a baisl...... wow
#omori#omori fanart#omori basil#omori game#omori au#omori of red thread au#tw disembowelment#tw gore
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Was watching the most diabolical Hannibal scenes and my mum kept humming along to the violin while making jam in the kitchen. Duality of man
#good for herrrrrr! now show my a man getting disembowelled#mine#emmys thoughts#Hannibal nbc#nbc Hannibal#hannigram#hugh dancy#mads mikkelsen#Hannibal#Hannibal Lecter#will graham
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panic & malaise make me feel something but i dont know what, please draw more so i can puzzle this out
lol no i can make it more complicated for u by giving u art from 2020 tho
#blood#gore#guro#disembowelment#demon#angel#oc#panic and malaise#sorry for no art!! im fuckan busy. but more coming this summer#finals are coming and after that im FREEE
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I really want a scene between Lucien and Nesta where he tells her he understands what it's like to feel that no matter what you do, or how much of yourself you give, it'll never be enough to gain respect and acceptance from the IC. And that family shouldn't force you to earn their love.
#Begging for Lucien and Nesta to be BFFs#i feel like he could teach her survival skills#and she could teach him to properly disembowel a male#they can bond over loving elain.#Lucien vanserra#Nesta archeron#pro lucien vanserra#pro nesta#anti ic#ic critical#anti inner circle
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Something deeply fascinating about tumblr character discourse because on the one hand you have
This character made a human mistake and has actual morally challenging flaws, they're basically scum of the earth and deserve the guillotine!!!! NO REMORSE
But then you also have
Pookie disemboweled someone, they deserve the world 🙏🥹❤️✨
And like no middle ground!
#I'm on the pookie disemboweled someone side of things#but it's so fascinating to see the other end like#the fuck are we making moral judgements for fake people we use as metaphor for our real lives#their actions are fake and have fak impact why are we mad???#911 abc#I'm deeply fascinated by how people talk about characters here#i come from#bcs#where we're wilding out#eddie diaz#lalo salamanca#like go to these tags#you won't believe who gets judged for their actions#buddie#911 spoilers#succession#iasip
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