#different ideas

[shrubsparrow]

It's in the eye of the beholder

[oneoflokis-blog]

Update re: Joker Folie A Deux. (Why I think people didn´t like it; and how current Hollywood directors are behind the curve.)

And indeed, although the Guardian reviewer Peter Bradshaw https://www.theguardian.com/film/article/2024/sep/04/joker-folie-a-deux-review-joaquin-phoenix-and-lady-gaga-musical-spirals-out-of-tune

actually liked it better than did Maher of the Times, the Guardian and other publications are now publishing a slew of articles, as to how this movie is losing money hand over fist ($200k at the box office), and their only hope is to recoup it on streaming!

Well: I suppose that's really ALL that counts, in Hollywood! 😏

As one or two have commented, I really don't see how they can have spent so much on a movie, without action scenes or special effects.

But the Guardian Hollywood writer seems to think it bombed, largely because it rubbed comic book fans, "an important sector of the market", "up the wrong way"..

And this Guardian writer Andrew Pulver reckons it "scolds the audience". Though I don't see how. With a musical? 🙄 With a musical, you can only ANNOY the audience, by making it flat and unentertaining. (If however you make it entertaining, you get the audience on your side. 🙂) And this is obviously no Little Shop Of Horrors…

Well.. You see, I believe the FIRST Phillips movie did rub fans of the characters up the wrong way too, to an extent! 😏 Not everybody liked it. If you look back in time to various contemporary YouTube parodies of movie 1, you can see that a lot of them parody the Phoenix Joker as weak! One I saw even had him falling from top to bottom of those concrete steps! (Though of course he didn't, in the movie!)

Well - again, this Lokean believes this negative box-office result vindicates her theories! And proves that I have the answer! 🙂

People don't WANT an incompetent, clumsy, sad-sack antihero. They want an old-time "rags to riches" story! I BELIEVE! (Even if it has certain ironic touches.)

I also think that a story told by a bourgeois director in which he is basically saying that a working-class rebel of whichever stamp, needs must fail, is ALSO not these days going to be popular. 😏

Yes. Pulver commented: "The core audience [which is WHO, one wonders, according to Pulver? JUST the comic book fans? But for a Hollywood movie to succeed, it has to appeal to more than just fans of the novel or comic book!] received the message that not only is the film very different from the first film, but also that people liked the first Joker for the wrong reasons."

And COULD a LOT of them have liked it, not for conventional superhero movie fan reasons (after all, that was precisely what Joker wasn't) but because they saw the first film as a rare example of "the underdog getting some of his own back", genre? 😄😄

Michael Moore had his finger on the pulse of why the first movie succeeded. (Michael Moore usually does! 🙂)

"Except in this story a discomfiting question is posed: What if one day the dispossessed decide to fight back?"

But Loki and His Own, we'd like to take that a little further, you see! Oh yes! 😄

The public - comics fans included, I do believe - would have far preferred a story in which Arthur Fleck the "Joker", however mentally disturbed he is or isn't, developed into a HERO! In which he grew into a much stronger character. Aided and drawn onwards and upwards, one would think, by his love for the character Harley Quinn. And hers for him. Pity, then, that in this, she is a duplicitous COW, who goes by the dull soubriquet "Lee", not "Harley". 😏

One supposes though that SOME diehard comic bookers would want Phoenix's Joker to develop either into the evil genocidal villain he is in some of the modern comics 🤮, or into the even more recognisable Gotham-destroying terrorist of Nolan's The Dark Knight 🙄.

This just proves, however, that such people are stupid! 😄 And I know that no Neopagan would go in for such obvious Christian right-wing ideological fantasies, which we see right through!

We have something better! (And something we might even be able to sell to the male incel comic bookers, because it is FAR from wimpy! And it offers the underdog a bit of HOPE.)

I DO believe, that a writer such as myself, could and would manage to sell to the public who are tired of wimpy Jokers, and "failure stories", and all such dull negativity, a fantasy that I have already outlined in my previous essay above, and that is far more folksy, and far more Pagan both. ☺️

That would be the rags-to-riches tale of a Trickster Hero! 👍

THAT the public would now buy and lap up, I'll stake my best idol of Loki on it! 🙂😄👍

P.S. Very recent events - much more recent than my writing any of these reviews/musings - have I think proved, that vast numbers of the US public are perfectly prepared to support rebels against the status quo - in real life! Even if in real life, ¨the system¨ turns those rebels into martyrs. What is important to the public, is that they achieve something, however symbolic. Violently symbolic. A bit of ¨own-backery¨, as one might say! 😏

I´m not sure that that was precisely what I was talking about in my essays - but I think we can all see, the way that the public mood is going, and that ¨conventional¨ ideas on the part of directors - like wasn´t Phillips trying to quote some Scorsesean/Roman Catholic bit of ¨moralism¨, at the end of Folie A Deux, according to what I read on Wikipedia - just don´t cut the mustard any more.

People want ¨the terrorist" to win. As long as he is the right kind of terrorist! 😏

As for Tricksters - well - this Lokean will let you all into something! 😄😄😄 The great thing about them, is that they tend to get away with it! 😄 In the long run, they do! (Yeah: so Christians said Loki didn´t. But Christians lie: and they have the wrong cosmological outlook anyway!)

P.P.S. Those interested in Trickster Heroes will also need to read my forthcoming reviews/essays/musings on the sorely much-unadapted (as yet) science fiction writer Julian May, her Saga of the Exiles, and her fabulous Trickster, Aiken Drum! ☺️

Joker: Folie a Deux, Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga, movie plots, different ideas, trickster heroes

[lokh]

DO YOU SEE MY VISION... DO YOU SEE WHAT THEY COULD BECOME

[chloesimaginationthings]

The Afton’s different ways of parenting in FNAF

[qiinamii]

one braincell transfer (divided by four)

[lazylittledragon]

bg3 x taskmaster filed under 'things that are funny to me and nobody else'

[stil-lindigo]

lighthearted.

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i turn 24 today. To celebrate, I made this comic to be a spiritual successor to lead balloon, a comic in which I talked about the darkest period of my life so far.

A lot has changed since my 23rd birthday and this one. My priorities have shifted a lot, in ways that I think are mostly good. But i think the best part about today is that suicide has gone back to being a far away notion. I'm really lucky, and I'm grateful for that.

[gravitycoill]

lil comic i’ve had in my head for a bit

[soldrawss]

Something something 16yo 2k12 Mikey gets sucked into a portal and sent into the RISE universe and ends up helping raise the RISE kiddos AU

[umblrspectrum]

i love learning cursive just to write text for exactly one character

[blabberoo]

Life's Mockery

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[crumb-crumblet-s-crumbington]

tfone humanformers grahh...

[mintaikk]

I fuck hard with Asexual Venom, but the idea of Venom, an alien whose species doesn't breed sexually and don't have concepts of sex, being sexually attracted to some boring sad and sweaty white guy he picked up on the streets is just so funny to me

[chloesimaginationthings]

Scott Cawthon’s version of FNAF security breach..

[mohntilyet]

caterina's datamined character description calling her korean-italian and early lucanis designs having him look east asian . i'll just do everything myself i guess

assorted thoughts: caterina is fully 'korean' or whatever the thedas equivalent would be in this design, and clawed her way to the top of the crow food chain after years of work. their armor is something caterina forcibly incorporated to distinguish house dellamorte from the other crows, and a symbol of their status because they get it custom made or imported. of course race-equivalents do not really exist in thedas or this world but i also will never forget how gaider just implied (east) asian people don't exist in thedas because it just so happens that there are no asians on the continent of thedas (guy who forgot about boats) . explode and die. there's not the same kind of discrimination as exists irl ofc (and the dellamortes are actually treated fine, much better than a mage or elf) but a level of xenophobia against foreigners from a different continent. illario looks the least like her, and passes for being fully antivan, which changes how he is recieved by the other crows.

and sorry if the korean is bad please actually let me know if it's horribly translated i relied on google translate . if you are one of ten asian dragon age fans feel free to talk to me at any given moment.

[vaugely10]

pet crew from a lil space au im fiddling with

+ extra under cut :]

MAIL SPACE SHIP! i used the post office van pearl built and just space-ificated it as much as i could :D