#diabolik lovers asks

[elia-dialovers-rp]

"Elia! I've been looking for you. There's something we need to talk about. Our last conversation ended somewhere I didn't want it to, but I had no other choice."

"But please, just hear me out okay?"

The girl grabs your arm gently, trying to pull you away from any stray eyes. You both end up in the bathroom as she continues to ramble while simultaneously pulling you with her in a state of what seems like desperation.

@karlheinzchristmasgift

*Elia follows along, gently sliding her hand into Chika's and giving it a comforting squeeze*

Alright alright I'm listening.

And look I am sorry about our last chat. I didn't mean to come off as threatening or anything. I just hate people trying to trick or lie to me with false personas. So just ..... don't do that please.

I'd actually prefer being your friend.

[spunkypigeon]

Your analyzes are really helpful and so valuable to the community. It was from your latest analysis of Reiji that I got motivated to research the boys more thoroughly and became very knowledgeable about behavioral issues. But as I replayed each HDB and MB route, I suddenly realized something.

Each of the brothers is very different, but they all seem to share a lot in common when it comes to punishment and obedience. Despite being raised by such different types of mothers, many of the brothers use one common control tactic - a "reward" for obedience or punishment for disobedience. Of course, some of them can take the reward as such, while others have it quite twisted. And it seems that this practice really works on Yui, because this way they train her to obey without a second thought so that she can to avoid the pain, but I got the impression that they didn't see it that way. For most of the development of Yui's "relationship" with one of the boys, this goes to an extreme and eventually she starts to lose the line between pain and pleasure and things get complicated. But I wonder if they are doing this to make her a masochist? As far as I am informed, a man cannot suddenly become a masochist, but is born with such a tendency, and over time, so to speak, learns to awaken it. Does this mean that Yui is actually really a masochist, and it's not just words when brothers say so?

Of course I know your focus is mainly Reiji and I have no idea if you've played any of the other routes to you know. Also, Reiji isn't as mentally screwed up as Cordelia's sons and he acts very carefully and thinks his actions out more than his brothers. But since you also mentioned this reward and punishment tactic, I would be very happy if you could give me your opinion on the subject.

This is a very astute observation! You are right with each brother engaging in Operant Conditioning (or punishment and reward) even though they each have different mothers; I don't think this is coincidental. From what we see of their mothers, it can be implied that the behaviour is learned - we predominantly see this with Cordelia and her general behaviour, but we also see this with Beatrix and Shuu (I would mention Christa but I feel I lack a thorough understanding of her character). From each of the brothers, to the mothers and by extension even the Mukamis, they all seem to exhibit this form of behaviour; the only way for this to occur [beyond coincidence] is for there to be an interlinking variable. In this case, our good friend Karlheinz - CEO of Beans, Means, Heinz.

From what we learn from Ayato's and Laito's routes, it's implied that Cordelia met Karheinz when she was young - in other words, he preyed on her for her blood, and for her heritage. This can imply that Cordelia may have, in fact, been groomed (for Karl's plan) - since it can be implied that he too engages in the punishment and reward system. This is mainly theoretical, however, from Cordelia's extensive collection of fine jewellery - that, (if I'm right) come from Karlheinz (and can even be implied to be 'love bombing'). We know that Cordelia becomes self-destructive and abusive when she isn't with Karl, possibly implying that his time and gifts act as the "reward" - whereas him marrying Beatrix, Christa and generally discarding Cordeila acts as the "punishment". Cordelia possibly learned her behaviour from Karl and imprinted it onto her children - a sort of "cause and effect" if you will - whereas I've implied Beatrix to suffer from some form of generational trauma; though Karl may have also [possibly] used Operant Conditioning on Beatrix, and Christa, too.

And yes, you're right - some brothers are generous with the rewards and do something that actively makes Yui happy, such as Ayato, Azusa and Kou. However, brothers such as Laito, Kanato and Reiji present a more twisted version of 'reward' - such as Laito forcing himself on Yui [in basically every chapter let's be real] or Kanato wanting to turn Yui into a wax corpse - but that's heavily due to their response to their trauma.

You're also right about Yui being easily 'trained' via Operant Conditioning. However, I think this is a precaution - a means to demonstrate complete and utter control - and like I've mentioned with Reiji, he spares no time in enforcing that; meaning that he's likely done this hundreds of times before (and most likely so have the others). In other words, the Operant Conditioning may just be a standard routine among the brothers. I do like your interpretation that they're doing this so that Yui can avoid their punishments - it definitely puts them in a more sentimental light (and I appreciate that you've read it like this). For characters like Subaru, Shuu, Ayato (and even Kanato) I can definitely see this interpretation - as punishing Yui is more trouble than it's worth; they want her to behave and do exactly as they want.

However, for characters like Reiji and Laito, they particularly enjoy pushing Yui around, they enjoy making her slip up so they can punish her. I see this as more of a demonstration of power and control - as well as a boost to their ego. Reiji and Laito are two characters that lacked control and authority in their childhood - implying that their actions towards Yui are possibly a way to achieve that. For characters such as these, I don't belive that they want Yui to avoid pain in the beginning. Throughout the mid-way section and the end of their respective routes, they don't delight in Yui's pain - it's only in the beginning, and I think this is due to their trauma-response. In other words, the abused become the abuser - they delight in Yui's pain because she feels a physical manifestation of their mental/emotional pain. It's sadism at its most ironic.

So yes, I agree with you on that front - I don't think they see Yui's 'training' in a pet-like way - instead I believe it's a fail-safe. It's a way for each brother to be in complete control, while having the security that Yui can't escape, act out or leave them. At the end of the day, each brother values and desires affection and acceptance - using this form of control over Yui guarantees that. It's a twisted way for them to garner the emotional security they need.

However, I don't believe that any of the brothers use Operant Conditioning to actively or purposefully make Yui a masochist. From what I know, researched and from my own experiences, no one is born a sadist or a masochist. Instead, I believe it to be a learned response. Sadism and masochism are responses to pain - I don't believe people are intrinsically born to enjoy pain - it's called 'pain' for a reason. However, and this is drawn upon my own experiences, I believe that sadism and masochism arise from the exposure to suffering.

If you're exposed to constant and unyielding pain, there's only a small selection of responses to choose from. You can't run from it, you can't hide from it - fighting it only makes it worse - therefore, the only way to deal with the relenting pain is to accept it, tolerate it...enjoy it. I touch on this in my MB analysis regarding Azusa and Yui (and how Azusa is a "dark parallel" to Yui regarding this exact topic). Since the female brain doesn't full mature until mid-twenties, I can afford to take some liberties regarding Yui.

When you're exposed to heavy abuse and physical abuse as a child, your brain does funny things. Now, I'm only talking from my own experiences - so any other views on this are greatly appreciated. But like I said, when you're exposed to pain at a young age, your brain tries to rationalise it and find an effective response. If it's constant, unyielding and inescapable, you can either fight it - and in some cases, make it worse - or you can accept it. When you're a child, or a young adult, you're constantly told the message that you should enjoy life; that you have nothing to sad about or anything worth crying over. Notice how I used the word: enjoy. This is intentional because this is where the brain begins to warp. So, instead of crying about the pain, you instead learn to see the positives - that whoever's inflicting the pain is giving you 'special treatment' for example. This is what we see with Azusa and his attachment to Justin.

People inflict pain because they want to see you suffer; from how my brain responded to that, the only way to combat that is to enjoy it. Once the pain's over - or it's finally stopped for good - that sentiment doesn't go away; instead it finds something to latch onto. Think of your brain as one big circuit board, and the masochism as a cord. Once the pain stops for an extensive period, that cord becomes unplugged - and another cord is plugged in its place; the circuit board fills up. The masochism is still there, the cord hasn't disappeared; it's dangling, and it needs something to latch onto. Once you grow older, your brain develops more plugs, more sockets for different cords and branches that need to be filled in - one of those plugs is sexuality. Now obviously, sadism and masochism aren't intrinsically sexual, they are both sexual and non-sexual: the sexual being self-explanatory and the non-sexual being oriented around amusement - again, it's irony being displayed in its most painful form. But I digress, once sexuality opens itself up to the brain - like with Yui - the unplugged cord of masochism has a socket to wire itself into.

The point I'm getting at is that I believe masochism - and Yui's masochism - to be a trauma-response. It acts as a way for her to 'deal' with the pain - however, since her brain is underdeveloped, her mentality surrounding it warps and distorts. The line between pain and pleasure does become blurred. In other words, it can be implied that Yui's masochism (and Azusa's) are coping mechanisms that have become warped and distorted over time.

Note that Yui never starts the game(s) as a masochist. If anything, she hates the pain. Yet by the end of the game, she is a masochist. She's masochistic due to the severe mental stress she's under and the vile abuse she endures - and her brain can't revert back due to the extent of the distortion. Routes such as Reiji's and Laito's hinge on Yui's mentality unravelling; becoming fragile and mouldable - this is how the masochism is able to infiltrate, it's a coping mechanism (but instead of being able to abandon it, it's latched onto another part of her brain, her sexuality).

Furthermore, when the brothers refer to Yui as a masochist, it could be implied to be an exaggeration, a way to riddle Yui's mind with stress, denial and self-doubt. In other words, it could be implied that they're gaslighting her to sow doubt and make her more susceptible to their mental manipulation. Additionally, it could be implied that they're enforcing masochism onto Yui so that they can enact their own sadism onto her without any complications - to make her a 'willing victim' if you will. In essence, the brothers could call Yui a masochist in order to imprint their own views and needs onto her - sadism and masochism is the giving and receiving of pain. It can be implied that the brothers' sadistic tendencies act as an outlet for their trauma; they need a recipient to take the pain they're giving - that being Yui. However, the brothers' sadism and Yui's masochism doesn't match up.

The brothers begin their routes revelling in Yui's pain, yet they don't end their routes with the same sentiment. Yui, however, starts the routes trying to escape the pain, only to yield to it - and by the end of the route, revel in it. And I'm not just strictly talking about her own pain either. In Reiji's HDB manservant ending, we see Yui delight in the pain and subservience of others. She gains control over Reiji, in which she belittles and emasculates him, all while playing the role of 'Cordelia' - and in Kanato's HDB manservant ending, we see Yui brutally (and sadistically) murders the other brothers, revelling in the affection she believes she'll get because of it. In essence, sadism and masochism are learned responses or coping-mechanisms (gone wrong), but that's just my opinion.

You're also right, Reiji isn't as screwed up as the triplets, and he does think out his every move - painstakingly so. The only other brother I'd say who comes close is Laito,since they're both highly manipulative and predominately enforce Operant Conditioning - with Reiji’s focus being on control and Laito's being on sex. When Yui behaves, they each reward her in non-material ways - for Laito, it's sex or physical affection, and for Reiji, it's remedies when Yui's sick, her favourite meals etc. What they both 'reward' Yui with is their vulnerability. In other words, manipulative characters like Reiji, Laito, Ruki and Carla enforce Operative Conditioning to gain the comfort of control; only once that boundary is established do they 'mellow'. In other words, the need for punishment and reward is a basis wherein the brothers can build a relationship that they can thrive in.

[kurosawa-family]

going feral and throwing scarlett @ convoitise for reasons 👀?? kjfdf

"Pspspsps?"

First Five in my inbox get a kiss!

Now at (1/5)

[ The moment she called for him like that, his head turned back immediately and quickly walked towards her, tilting his head in curiosity as he smiled softly. Gently holding one of her hands, he placed it on his cheek as he leaned it, a faint blush falling upon his face as his eyes showed a little spark on them. ]

“Mrhew~”

[ He imitated the sound of a cat, now his smile showing his pointy teeth as he carefully leaned in close, now finally feeling her lips. He only allowed himself to hold her hands during the kiss, maybe squeezing them in a shy manner from time to time, all while he kept the kiss as gentle as he could. After a few seconds, he took a few steps back, and looked at her in anticipation, almost hopeful for her to tell him if he did good or not. ]

[komori--shoma]

Hi I'm new in your blog . I just saw a post about your OC that she hates Yui even though she is her sister . Just why ? Sorry it reminded me wattpad stories that Yui is a bitch and her sister is an angel and all diaboys like her . Is you oc like this ? It's not hate I just wanna know the reason?

Ok, funny little fact, I was in Wattpad from when I was like, eleven I think?, until just two, one year ago. Shoma was created around 2018 or 2019 (I honestly don't remember at this point, I might be wrong). She was born in Wattpad and, funny enough, I saw so many tittles with 'Yui's lost sister' with that same dynamic that old me thought, "You know what, I'm going to do it my way. Fuck it.", and Shoma was born. Her personality was PAINFULLY, OBVIOUSLY based in Harley Queen and other characters and she wasn't exactly human and the way I wrote it makes me want to squeeze my phone like a dog toy.

GOOD THINGS (I think) THAT I DID THO: I actually gave a kind of "good reason" for Shoma and Yui to not like each other (Which, spoilers, is because of their own trauma towards Seiji and the Church, the brainwashing, the whole 'locked up in a basement' themes, which is kind of the same back then as now, but better executed and less "Wattpad" like?), and that I didn't want my girl to have any romantic feeling with the Diaboys. I wanted to be different, yes, but I also wanted something that would entertain others while reading and not be the same stuff but in different font. Something that would not make them hate Yui, nor roll their eyes at how ridiculous it was (back then what I wrote it wasn't considered that ridiculous).

But in short:

Is Shoma an angel? No, but she's a teen when the story starts AND when she finds Yui and the other boys. Do they Diaboys love her? Barely know her and most definitely would . Maybe Subaru may have bonded with her in another universe, but who knows.

[demon-mortician]

Matchmaking Game: Tomoky Masamune Edition

Admin: Personally I didn't find this interesting to do cuz' 1. I rarely talk about the Dialovers in here (touché) and 2. I have like 3 moots lol but I was tagged and I guess I could give it a try anyways :P Not to be a party popper but I don't really think this is getting any better kdbskf I'm sorry

Admin: Ty very much for tagging me @hanakohanabe, I appreciate it <3

Admin: Almost forgot- The idea is from @bluebird-dolly-bride (I'M SORRY KFBWKFJ)

Anyways,

Admin: I'm giving it a week just to see the results and I'll make a post talking about it later (if it gets any interesting) on here so yeah, vote along folks (or don't) (idk lol)

[alternativeofeve]

Helllooooooo!

I'm admin lulu! I'm 6teen and I do art and occasionally roleplay ^^ :D I'll make the sprites for _____ eventually trust me

[elia-dialovers-rp]

Awe thank you!! Hehe.....

@nephilimcursed

tw: kinda angsty rp starter?? not taking care of herself

"I've been feeling so dizzy lately... I'm tired, and I know if I go to sleep, images will paint my vision again... I don't like this. I'm hungry but if I eat then I'm breaking what I stand for. Is it really okay to deny this like I was taught...? I'm starting to think otherwise."

[dialovers-lover-xoxo]

[elia-dialovers-rp]

Happy Holloween everyone!! Personaly I've always considered Holloween the best holiday. I don't go trick-or-treating anymore but I love handing out candy to the kids and dressing up.

Hm.....I wonder what Bella is up to, and the boys too......... Maybe their doing something for the holiday. They'd look great in costumes......

@nephilimcursed @bubblespalace @the-mostdiabolik-of-lovers @the-only-takoyaki-king @fedora-pervert @callingsubaru @notririe @midnight-tea-at-the-manor @sakamaki-reiji-29 @sweet-but-sour-on-u @alternativeofeve @garden-daddy-69 @kou-official @komoriyui-chan

[spunkypigeon]

I never understood Reiji's goals and intentions until I came across your blog. You have literally analyzed the entire game in such a detailed way that in the end you can't help but think about his psychology and character. I admit that before I read every one of your posts about this boy, I always found him to be the most boring Sakamaki brother and I couldn't explain his actions, but thanks to you I decided to give him 1 more chance. What I like most is the fact that even though he is your favorite, you don't justify or sugar coat him like many people do with their favorite character, but you appreciate, examine and explain his flaws and mental problems, trying to analyze like a true psychologist. Respect for the work you have done. I saw that you're planning more posts like this in the future and that you're going to try other characters like Ayato, who I think shares quite a bit of Reiji's personality. I can't wait for it.

Ah! Thank you, I'm glad you decided to give him one (1) more chance [even though you shouldn't, he's very rude]. BUT your point is exactly the reason why I wanted to analyse him in the first place. He's generally considered 'boring' or 'annoying' to deal with, and his dialogue can be hard to sift through if you're only looking at him at surface level.

I know I've said many times that I wanted More Blood done and dusted before now - and I genuinely thought I'd be finished, but sadly over 100k words isn't enough words for our boy - that and I'm ☆chronically ill☆ at the moment. I feel like a sick Victorian child lmao

I am getting through the transcripts, but very slowly. It doesn't help that I was on the verge of a stroke when someone decided to ☆delete☆ a section of my work. Thank you Ctrl + Z because I was about to invoke the most destructive gamer rage this world has ever seen.

I am glad that you decided to send this ask Anon since I never really knew how much this could help people understand Reiji (even if it's just from my perspective). I feel like the best way to thoroughly appreciate a character is to acknowledge their flaws, and I'm glad you're able to appreciate them too >3<

But I do think you're right about Ayato. I feel like he definitely shares a lot of traits with Reiji, but more so as his opposite. I feel like Reiji and Ayato have a ying/yang code to them; I stand by my interpretation that Ayato represents chaos and that Rejii represents order.

[For your diligence, please take this sanrio Reiji]

Also, mini rant: I can't be the only one that instantly thinks of Zhongli whenever they see the word 'order', right? The line just goes through my head like the plague, so now my brain decided to fuse him and Reiji together, and now I'm stuck with this:

that feels like a ☆violation☆ of fandoms

[elia-dialovers-rp]

Oh it's totally alright. And yeah I know where that room is - I can take you if you want.

*shaking off the uneasy feeling in her gut that withered danger I'm her mind the girl smiles in a friendly fashion.* I'm Cordelia by the way - my friends call me Elia so you can call me that if you want. And you are?

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Ooc: Awe thanks! Your oc is adorable. And you can learn more about Elia from my blog and from my oc page on the Dialovers discord. I'm excited to see what happens with your oc.

*Your walking down the halls when someone approaches you. - Another girl.*

Excuse me - uh Hi. Are you new around here? I've never seen you around campus before.

@elia-dialovers-rp

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Admin/OOC: HI! Welcome to Tumblr. I'm excited to learn more about your OC. This is Diabolik Lovers rp account - my others are @zariahthewitch and @multiverseguardians2006

The Other Diabolik Lovers RP Accounts On Tumblr That I Know Of:

@nephilimcursed @alternativeofeve @lilith-loves-her-eve @notririe @midnight-tea-at-the-manor @sakamaki-reiji-29 @fromyoru @fedora-pervert @the-only-takoyaki-king @takoyaki-king-of-everything @sweet-but-sour-on-u @callingsubaru @kou-official @garden-daddy-69 @komoriyui-chan

"Hmm? O-oh hi! Sorry you just kinda uh.... Shocked me hehe..."

The girl looks startled before tucking her hair behind her ears and taking in your form as she catches her breath

"But yes! I'm fairly new, even though the school isn't large I still have trouble finding my classes. Would you happen to know where.... Room 405 is? I believe I have my literature class in there but I honestly have no idea where I'm going..."

The girl speaks timidly, sometimes trying to lighten the mood but nothing can shake the ominous feeling you get from just looking at her. And room 405 just so happens to belong to a certain spectacle wearing vampire.

─── ･ ｡ﾟ☆: *.☽ .* :☆ﾟ. ───

OOC: I'm so glad to finally be posting omg. I've literally been contemplating for MONTHSSS, I've only started but this is so much fun. I hope I get to learn more about your oc she's so pretty

[kurosawa-family]

“Ah, you! ConCon~!” 

Scarlett called for the white-haired boy when she spotted him in the distance, there was something she needed to confirm!

After meeting up with him, she squinted, looking at his face, and scanning the rest of him as if that would give her any answers.

“Hmm…” 

Well, all she had to do was ask, right?

“I heard that you know how to use magic… Are you a magician!? Show me, show me!”

“Would you teach me your tricks? I want to learn, too!”

“Magician...?”

[ Convoitise looked up at her when he was walking back from his shop, tilting his head. He started to call back some little instances where he used his magic until he finally recalled; he may or may not have used a bit of magic his mother taught him to just... Well, mess with a few people here and there on the last fancy party there was in the underworld. He thought for a second, and then smiled at her with a hint of curiosity, too. ]

“Well, not exactly a Magician myself, but I'll teach you with pleasure! I was about to head home right now, so we can practice there!”

[ A thought came up once again. Now that he thinks about it, she was never in the Kurosawa territory before, right...? ]

“Uh... Just a heads up; the house can be a little bit creepy...”

[komori--shoma]

😘

Send 😘 for my muse’s honest opinion about your muse.

Them as a person:

“Kauze is really a mysterious guy to me, considering that I haven't interacted with him much recently. I truly believe, though, that he's a genuinely good person, always happy to lend me a hand from time to time.”

Level of attractiveness:

“Hmm... I mean, he is pretty attractive, but I don't think I find him absolutely mesmerising. Other people, though... Hmmm....”

What annoys them most:

“I think I'm not a fan of his serious attitude at times...”

What they like the most:

“H... His a—”

“Okay, I'm kidding. I love the way he laughs. It's like a really goofy, silly laugh...”

What they’d do if they were locked in a closet together for 4 hours:

“Um... Probably play Uno. I always carry the cards with me!”

Overall opinion:

“I don't mind Kauze, I think he's a good guy, but it's been so long... And that's one on me.”

Rating: 8/10

[bubblespalace]

Based off this post-

[elia-dialovers-rp]

I hate to ask but at the same time I really wanna know....... who are you killing and why?

I will kill someone for this...

[dialovers-lover-xoxo]