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Can you do 141 team x reader where Y/n is a sniper, she was shot on her right eye by enemy sniper. It was her good eye because her right eye is 6 times greater then normal and her skills where she never miss her enemy. Her lover help her by teaching her using her other eye of practicing for her other eye. Y/n is back in the fight after all the practice for her left eye.
I loved writing this, I went more into destil. I hope you enjoy this!- E< <3
Replaceable
It was a mission like no other. The wind whistled in your ears as you stood on the small hill, a shaky breath escaping your lips as you stared into the scope of your sniper rifle. Staring at the dead target, you never anticipated the shot that would come from the other direction. Panic flooded your body as you felt a sharp pain in your head. You fell to the ground and covered your mouth, not wanting to let anyone know you were alive. As you lay there, you heard your lover voice on the radio.
“Y/n!”
John captain price
The moment Price saw your body hit the floor, he ordered everyone to shoot up the place. He rushed to your side, panic setting in as he saw you lifeless. As he approached your body, you suddenly cried out in pain, a sign of life that filled him with relief.
Price carefully cradled you in his arms, his expression full of panic and desperation. He felt a lump in his throat as he looked at the blood spilling from your eye, and he shouted orders for someone to help you, to save your life. His heart raced as he rushed you back to the others, praying silently that you would make it.
When you woke up, you found yourself in a hospital bed, unable to see out of your right eye. The eye that had carried you through your whole career, your life and your will to feel important. Price sat up from the chair and immediately walked over to the side of the bed you lay in. He grabbed your hand gently and released a sigh of relief.
“Y/n…I’m so glad you’re alive..” Price said, kissing your hand and squeezing it tightly as you turned your head to face him. “I thought.. I lost you..” His voice was filled with emotion as he said this, and his eyes were filled with concern and adoration. You felt a warmth inside as you stared into his eyes, and you could tell he was truly relieved that you were alive and safe. You knew that no matter what happened, he would always be there for you.
Price refused to let you give up, training you day and night to make sure you never felt alone. The others tried their best to help as well, and eventually, you were ready to take on the working field.
Once more you stood by a hidden hill, looking through the scope of your gun. As Price ordered you to shoot, time seemed to freeze. You took the dangerous shot and quickly got down. Silence hung in the air until the cheers of the others broke it.
“Beautiful shot princess!” Price exclaimed with a laugh. You felt proud of yourself for taking the shot, and you were grateful for the support of your team. You had come a long way from where you started, and you knew that you could do anything you put your mind to.
Kyle “Gaz”Garrick
Gaz saw your body fall down on the cold concrete floor and panic set in as he saw the ever-growing pool of blood around your head. Fear and dread coursed through his veins as he rushed to your aid, his voice desperate and urgent as he called for a medic. He carefully picked you up and cradled you in his arms, his eyes searching for any sign of the medic, praying silently that you would be okay.
The last thing you remember before you blacked out was the sound of his voice, desperate and determined to get you the help you needed. He carefully carried you away from the danger, his arms protectively draped around you as he ran, never letting go.
When you woke up, you were in a hospital bed, surrounded by tubes and needles. Fear overwhelmed you as you realized that you could only see darkness out of your right eye. Price and Gaz were there, and before Price could come over to check on you, Gaz immediately pushed him away and rushed to your side.
“Y/n.. oh my god you’re okay.. thank god," he said as he kissed your forehead gently. "Hey.. just breathe, it's okay.."
He started stroking your hair and holding you close. He stayed by your side, never leaving, and his presence was a comforting reminder that you weren't alone.
You held your hand up to your right eye, desperately hoping to see something, but Gaz quickly moved your hand away and delivered the most devastating news: you had lost your good eye, the one that you depended on for your very life. The shock and grief hit you like a wave, and you struggled to comprehend what had happened.
You watched from the sidelines as the others trained and became accustomed to the mission, but you couldn’t bring yourself to hold a gun and aim it at a target. Gaz noticed your distress and began to train you with your left eye, despite your protests. Slowly but surely, you began to adjust, your bond with Gaz growing strong, and the other members began to take notice. Soon, what started as friendship blossomed into something more, an unspoken love that was shared between the two of you.
Gaz’s voice crackled through the radio, a whisper of reassurance: “Just breathe. Everything is going to be okay."
You felt your hands trembling as you adjusted your aim, your ragged breaths echoing in the silence. Taking a deep breath, you fired the shot, and a moment of stillness followed. Then, you heard his praises, and you knew that you had done it.
His laughter rang out as he exclaimed, “Good job! Fuck yeah! I knew you could do it!"
You sank to your knees beside a concrete wall, tears of joy streaming down your face. All the training with him had truly changed you for the best. You could still hear the others giving you praises, but it was Gaz's that had the most impact.
John “Soap” MacTavish
Soap was right beside you, witnessing the whole thing. The bullet hit your face, the pain causing you to stumble and lose consciousness. It took him a moment to comprehend what had just happened.The target was dead, but it seemed someone else had taken an interest in you. Panic finally set in Soap’s mind as he quickly grabbed you and called in a distress signal on his radio. You had been hit.
You awoke to a sudden jolt of pain in your arm, followed by the sound of a medic’s voice. Soap immediately rose from his chair in shock as Gaz and Price looked on in surprise. They were taken aback to see you up and about.
“Y/n!" Soap exclaimed in equal parts panic and relief. "You’re alive!"
Price put a comforting hand on his shoulder.
“Easy now.. she still doesn't seem to be fully aware." Price says then looked at you with a serious expression, "Y/n.. we.. need to tell you something."
The sudden panic on Soap’s face told the story. The darkness in your right eye further confirmed it. You let out a quiet sob as Price explained what had happened. Without hesitation, Soap rushed to your side and held you close, offering comfort and support.
Soap pulled you into a tight embrace and murmured softly, “Hey hey.. it’s okay. I won't let you give up in your work field." He paused, stroking your hair as you continued to cry. "Come on.. head up now, Bonnie."
The process was long and hard, and everything seemed so pointless to you. Yet Soap didn’t let you give up, encouraging you to keep going and so you did. It took a couple of months to finally get ready to go on the mission. Some had their doubts, but Soap cheered you on for coming back.
The target was open and visible, and Prive’s voice crackled through the radio, ordering you to shoot. Your hands began to tremble as you fumbled for the trigger, trying to steady your aim. You heard Price's voice again, asking if you had received the order.
“Its okay Bonnie.. you got this..” Soap whispered next you. “Come on.”
You took a deep breath, steadied your aim, and fired. In that moment, Soap grabbed your face and kissed you, blocking out everything else around you. That moment was the start of something bigger, and you two soon became an official couple.
Simon “Ghost” Riley
Ghost was three buildings away when he heard the gunshot, and his heart skipped a beat. He knew it had to be you, and he ran as fast as he could to your side. When he arrived, he saw you lying on the ground, a pool of blood staining the pavement around you. He was frozen for a few seconds, the shock of the situation hitting him hard, before he was able to react.
He called for help, but in his heart, he felt as though you were already gone. Price had to grab Ghost and pull him away, as a medic took you away in a helicopter. Ghost wanted to follow after you, but Price gave him a firm grip and stopped him from seeing you in such a bad state.
When you woke up, he was right next to you, his hand gently clasping yours. He moved away when he saw you were awake, and a look of relief passed over him. He spoke to you softly, delivering the news in the most gentle way he could. He watched as you broke down and laid in the hospital bed, not knowing what to do to comfort you.
He pulled his mask off and gently cupped your face in his hands. Soap and Gaz walked in on the two of you, just as Ghost was leaning in to kiss you.
“I’m so glad you're okay, y/n. I don't know what I would do without you...” Ghost mumbled, before leaning in to place a long, lingering kiss on your lips, revealing his true feelings for you.
Soap and Gaz watched from the doorway as you and Ghost stood together in an awkward silence. His hands remained on your face, gently wiping away the tears streaming down your cheeks. He then sat down on the bed and pulled you into a comforting hug. It was the best support he could offer, and you understood.
At first he agreed to let you leave the army field, thinking it would keep you safe and he could protect you better. But, as soon as he saw your body language change, he started pushing you to train with your other eye, even though you felt like you couldn’t do it sometimes. He knew it was the best course of action and you followed his lead.
Days and nights went by, and he didn’t let you rest. Ghost wanted you to regain the confidence you had once held, and your bond with him grew stronger. He would occasionally try to flirt with you, as if he wanted to start something up between the two of you. The day you returned to the work field he stare at you, hoping that you really were ready.
“He’s on your left, wearing a red shirt and blue pants," Price said over the radio as you held your gun tightly. "Lead him to a more secluded area."
“Copy that," you responded, slightly following the person. "Target is alone and in sight."
“I’ve got my eye on you, y/n," Ghost said, sending a shiver down your spine. "Everything is safe on my end."
You took note of that and peered through your scope. For a moment, your vision seemed blurry and fuzzy, as if you were losing your sight. You blinked a few times to clear it and focused on the target.
“Y/n, shoot," Price ordered over the radio, making you fire off a shot in an instant. "Good shot, clean and perfect."
You thanked the captain before moving away from public sight. You were grateful for their help and wanted to show your appreciation. As you moved away, you felt a sense of relief wash over.
When you met at the safe house, you grabbed Ghost’s arm and pulled him in for a gentle embrace. You kissed his cheek, showing him the same confidence and affection you had when you first met.
#simon ghost riley#cod fandom#cod mwii#cod fanfic#cod x reader#cod x you#simon ghost riley x reader#cod#simon ghost riley x you#john soap mactavish#captain john price#captain price x you#captain price x reader#captain price#kyle gaz garrick x reader#kyle gaz garrick x you#kyle gaz garrick#john soap mctavish x reader#soap x you#cod mw 2022#cod mw22
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I’ve played so many warlocks, and I love giving each of them unique eldritch blasts. This is missing Gh0st’s eldritch blast (ghost in the machine warlock with an electric blue blast) and the name of Remissio’s patron (Caiphon). Between these 5 I have 3 different generation of D&D- Francis & Iris are 3.5 (when there was no mechanical difference between the patrons), Pepper is 4e, and Slade & Remissio are 5e.
Undercut is some more details on each one.
Remissio (Tiefling, Caiphon)- His eldritch blast look like a starry night sky, with something he’d almost call the Dream Whisperer itself in the center. Something orbits the outside of the main mass at all time, and he’s never been brave enough to try and stop them.
Pepper (Tiefling, Acererak)- By far one of the simpler blasts, Pepper’s swirl with arcane magic that seems to rot everything it touches. It’s a deep, almost black red- a color which matches the Demi-liches’ own magics.
Iris (Faun, patron never named)- Her blasts are vibrant and swirling with leaves and petals. There’s a warmth to them if she holds it, which reminds her of the Nymph she gained the power from (among other fey gifts...).
Francis (Human, Belial and a clawlock)- Despite Belial’s associate with the color red, Francis’ blast take on a sickly purple that clings to him. It has done as much damage to his own body as it has done to others, something made even more true when they form the claws he use to fight.
Slade (Viera, Destille, and a clawlock)- Slade’s blasts are more similar to Iris’ than Francis. It swirls with the sands the sleeping dragon is buried under, and is warm to the touch- though the sand does wrap around his wrist, ready to form into the next one as the first leaves his hand.
#dnd#dnd art#Character Design#character art#ttrpg#ttrpg art#warlock#Rem (VM)#pepper#Iris (DND)#Francis DeVaughn#Slade Etheling
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gonna add a few thoughts tot his. like kitten, i've had a lot of writing experience, including as a writing teacher. and dialogue is easily my favorite thing to write.
1.) "Read out loud" is hands down the best advice for this topic. there's an old clip of Harrison Ford talking about telling George Lucas that just because he can write things doesn't mean they're easy to say. sometimes something you write down doesn't actually sound natural coming out of someone's mouth. to this day, I tend to speak my dialogue out loud as I write it. It makes a big difference.
2.) Re: Dialogue Tags: so let me clarify the reason you're supposed to use them sparingly. it isn't that the dialouge should speak for itself. it's more that words like "said/says" and "asked/asks" become invisible to the reader in a way. where as more elaborate tags like "exclaim" or "mumble" or "shouted" etc stand out. too many of these stand out words can become distracting. i once read a novel where it seemed like every other dialogue tag was "screamed," "exclaimed," or "shouted." i don't remember anything about this book except that i felt like the characters were constnatly yelling and it took me out of the story. that does NOT mean to never use specific tags. it just means to be intentional about it, as kitten said. do it knowing it's going to have an impact and will stand out ot your reader. do it specifically in places where the words and punctuation don't make it obvious.
2b.) Adverbs: everything i said above can also be applied to the use of adverbs in dialogue tags. so things like "says quietly" or "asks gently" etc. sometimes you'll see the advice to never use adverbs in your work. this is again an over generalization. is it true that most of the time you can go into your draft and cut about 50% or more adverbs (not just in dialogue tags) and it will read better? yes, but that's often because there's a better, more concise verb that works better. even then, though, sometimes an adverb is still the best choice. you can use them in your dialogue tags, just be sure you are doing it with intnet because, much like the stand out tags from above, they will catch a reader's attention. too many can be distracting.
3.) Dialogue In Fiction Isn't Actually Realistic: next time you have a conversation, take note of how long it takes. people tend to circle around their point, go off on tangeants, etc. a five minute conversation in ral life is pretty brief, right? in fiction, that's about 5 pages to get to what is likely a very simple point. the trick with writing dialogue is to destill the essence of it so that it *feels* real to a reader, but without all the meandering that a real conversation would have. you can do this by incorporating a lot of kitten's advice. one exercise i give my students sometimes is to eavesdrop on a conversation. afterward determine what the point behind that conversation was and try to rewrite it. Not word-for-word but the essence of the conversation, working in all the verbal ticks and such that you heard. good dialogue has the illusion of realism, because a real word for word conversation might take 10 pages to just get to the point of "what is for dinner?" (note: reading screenplays is a great way to think about this as well. these rules apply for movie dialogue because films are between 90-120 pages of script usually, with each page being 1 minute of screentime. so screenwriters have to be very concise while still writing dialogue that feels natural.)
anyway tl;dr kitten has a lot of great points here. i'm just an asshole who wanted to add my 2 cents even tho no one asked me lol
I've had a fair few people ask me how I write dialogue, and other than touting the sort-of-dismissive-feeling "I've had a lot of practice and have been doing this a long time" comment I usually make, here are a few quick tips for improving dialogue writing.
1) Listen to people talk. Like. This sounds very "no fuckin duh." But I don't mean casually overhearing conversations. I mean if you have a character with a specific background, then get some headphones and find video/audio of someone you envision them speaking like, close your eyes, and simply listen. Full immersion. Let the cadence of their voice and the vocabulary they use wash over you. Absorb it.
2) Read some screenplays and start listening to dialogue like a writer. Screenplays are a good source because film/television often relies heavily on dialogue to communicate character. The lines are intentional, they're economic, they convey ideas in a way that most of us wouldn't be able to come up with off the cuff. Consider the different ways lines can be delivered and how that can change their entire meaning.
3) Everyone has vocal tics. We all have certain ways of speaking. It's where regional accents and slang come from and it's how we express a specific image of ourselves. People SPEAK differently. Uptalk, vocal fry, pauses for emphasis, laughing to lighten the heaviness of the words, certain turns of phrase, mumbling, showmanship, whatever. Train your ear to clock those things and figure out how to use them to bring out character personality.
4) Check out some improv. If you have an improv group in your area, check them out! There's also tons of improv content online. If you're ever like "how did someone come up with that absolute fucking BANGER of a line just off the top of their head???" The answer is 1) they probably didn't just think of it, and 2) they've practiced rapid-fire back and forth, often with a comedic bent.
5) Read out loud. If you're ever like "what would a real person sound like saying this," you have the answer. Say it yourself, in the way you envision them saying it, and see where it sounds clunky and can be smoothed out. Is there a way for you to convey emphasis where it's needed?
6) Dialogue tags do in fact matter. Every once in a while you'll see the advice that you should NEVER use dialogue tags besides "says/said" because "the dialogue should speak for itself." It's mostly bullshit. Don't use them for the sake of adding a different tag to every line of dialogue, but the WAY people say things can change the meaning of the words. So use them intentionally.
7) PRACTICE. Look. I fuckin know lol. But this advice always stands. Any creative expression requires practice to improve. It's incredibly rare to have a "natural" talent for anything. So just keep on keeping on. You're doing great. And you will continue to improve.
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In response to all the comparison between Hermitcraft and Dream SMP.
To be fair to Dream SMP,
Hermitcraft was Created and Destilled in An very Different Time, and had Time To Grow, Change, and no one really did it full time until later, and even then it had created it's identity already.
Dream SMP on the other hand was created During 2020. I could leave it there, and y'all would get it.
But I won't because maybe one day someone won't.
Dream SMP grew in months where no one had anything else to do but be online, creators and fans alike, for 24/7 lots of us were in constant horror of the ways our governments were handling it, or weren't. (Keep in mind Dream SMP Members are mostly UK or North American (Canada, US, and Mexico))
We watched as people didn't take is seriously, and the weeks turned into months that continued Dragged On, and The Deniers Got Scarrier and Louder. So Much Bad seems to be happening Every Time you refreshed your news feed.
So Dream SMP, much like any media or story is a reflection of their time.
So with that in mind, who is still actually genuinely shocked that the stories that it became, is centred around Corruption, Intentions, and Consequences?
Look me in the eye if you are in one of the countries that was or is mishandling Covid and try and tell me you didn't listen to Technoblade and a part of you didn't go 'he may have an idea'
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One man rescue
It’s hardly a surprise when it’s so expected. Everyone has been speculating about this appearance (and how it could happen) but it’s one thing to anticipate and other to see. After all it couldn’t have been more awesome. The way he went through Dark Troopers like they were butter. Din barely survived one. The whole team had no chance to survive those outside the door. He destroyed the whole platoon. And we only see most of it on a tiny security screen but it’s still awesome. And awe inducing. And then we see the hands first and we are already sure even before we see his face.
This whole sequence is a perfect destillation of why The Mandalorian is so much more fun than The Sequel Trilogy. It delivers everything fans want in the most awesome way possible while also hooking the casual viewers with the way it delivers those moments - fun action and relevant to the plot at hand.
And I love how the season ended with such a great win for basically everyone we care about. They secured the ship wit no loses and saved Grogu. Din found Jedi who can teach the Child. Cara got Moff Gideon for the New Republic. Bo-Katan got the ship for her cause. And Boba and Fenec paid their debt. The bad guys are defeated. The good guys won.
And yet it feels like a loss. The whole Darksaber thing means that Din and Bo-Katan are stuck and I’m not looking forward to them fighting for it (it’s a trope I have never been particularly fond of). She came for this one thing and Moff Gideon found a way to keep it away from her. And from the way he shot her first I think it was on purpose. There is clearly some bad blood there on both sides.
And Din has lost his son just as he got him back again. Grogu is no longer just a Child to him and he would do anything for him - go through any obstacle, sacrifice any prize and even give up his Way (he doesn’t just take his helmet off in public to save him - he does it just because Grogu asks). And in the end he does what he thinks is the best for Grogu. Even if it means losing him again. This was the mission and this is what everyone says is the right thing (it was the mission after all). Still, I hope this is not the end of their relationship. I certainly hope it doesn’t mean Grogu gets killed by Kylo Ren.
But at least we more than we came for as Boba and Fennec walked of to their own show and I can’t wait for more of Temuera Morrison and Ming-Na Wen.
#star wars#the mandalorian#din djarin#grogu#moff gideon#bo-katan kryze#cara dune#boba fett#fennec shand#luke skywalker
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🗝️: Secret Night
TRONDO/HALVOR stuff because I ship these two until the end. Fluff/sex/alcohol (not explicit)
''There is an incident that I can't or shouldn't easely forget. I have tried but it's something that my goddammed mind doesn't want to discard and casually it always shows up during the most unexpected times. Ah, shit... Mun put me into this situation and you have the key, so I suppose I don't have another option.
I warn you, anon, I don't want a single word about it out of this room. If any other dragons would ever know about what happened that day, I can assure you that you won't sleep at nights''.
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All the story began at the Summer Festival celebration on Dry Canyon. It's a night party where the Peacekeepers gather and welcome the beggining of the Summer in the Dragon Realms. We usually set a big fire at sunset, pray the honor for our ancestors and dance until dawn.
But there is a secret that the rest of Dragons don't know about: It's also Peacekeepers mating time. And we search for a partner almost insatiably.
As you can imagine, party is party, and in our Realm we destill a real strong liquid from cactus fruit. It is called Dragon Breath and it was the main star of that night. The beverage flowed like water at the party and all of my friends seemed too happy... Myself included.
Then, the games started. The marvelous idea of creating a silly game was suddenly thought by Maximos. We had to test our strenght. This test consisted on charge attacking shaped Gnorc targets placed all around. One by one, we tried but no one was hitting the targets with such accuracy as Halvor did. After all, my friend is the Ram Dragon and a Master of the Charge Attack, so he had no rival. He destroyed each and every one of them with the same ease as breathing.
Halvor and I have always been very good friends, brothers in arms. Yes, we have gone through many adventures together. He gave me a hand in the worst scenarios and we have always shared a great confidence. But what happened that night it just passed over all my expectations... Uhh, I have to admit it was sweet. And I still feel the stupid guilt because I liked it so much.
I don't know if it was the effect of the alcohol that clouded my senses or the lusty emotion of the tribal music rumbling in my ears ... But a very knowing heat grew inside my thighs while seeing Halvor's movements. His muscular and scaly body dancing with that masculine vitality, flames shining upon his thick black plates.
I saw a great warrior. Among other things that were less appropiate. His charming presence affected me greatly. Why was I paying so much attention to the sensuality of his eyes? In the shape of his chest? I had seen Halvor a million times, damn it! But never that way. Never like that night.
I had to withdraw from the party to a canyon, away from the crowd. My heart was pounding like a crazy and was hard to stand that unbearable heat between my legs. There, alone, I tried to clear my mind. My rational part was saying no. But my emotional side screamed for Halvor's touch and kisses...
But that strong-headed noticed my absence and looked everywhere until he found me. When landed behind me, he walked towards with a victorious pose.
''Why did you leave?'' Halvor asked with that never ending smile. ''I have never seen you like that... You don't usually withdraw from a challenge so easely. Maybe did you hate losing in front of me?''
The fool thought I felt offended by losing in front of him. Silly ram head ... You were playing the innocent, because you know me too well. You knew very well what was happening to my mind. Before I could make up any excuses, Halvor leaned toward me with a seductive face and stroked my scaly beard. I was stunned.
''Are you going to tell me, Trondo? Or I should go back with the others and continue with my show off?'' asked with his natural seductiveness. He was getting closer and closer, and I could smell the Dragon's Breath in his jaws. Fuck, we were so drunk and he was looking so hot...
No words were needed. I grabbed him by the waist and kissed his lips right there, stars the only whitnesses of that secret passion. Our jaws joined in a passionate kiss. Our tongues fought each other and our fangs collided.
That was my answer.
My mind was flying away. My body so hot it could have melt steel. Despite our drunken state, we were both well aware of what was happening and something was real: we wanted and needed each other.
Our tails entwined. My claws explored his strong pectorals, scaly abdominals and inner thighs without any shame, until we joined our bodies together under the moon light. In the distance, I could hear the noise of the party, how our friends were still singing and dancing completely unaware to our heavy pleasure moans...
The next morning, when I woke up and saw Halvor naked curling up next to me, mixed feelings assaulted me. I really enjoyed his body against mine, the way he screamed my name... But what was going to happen now?
After a while, Halvor also woke up. When those blue eyes met my confused and blushed face, all what he could do was let out a nonchalantly laugh before explaining me a little secret. ''The truth is that everything came out to order. Maximos' game was really my idea. I wanted to prove myself in front of you... I thought that you saw me more like a friend or a warrior. I like you, Trondo. I always did everything possible to catch your attention'' Halvor confessed with that cheerful attitude he had, as smiling as ever.
That's the Peacemaker's way of showing love interest. I growled but hugged him lovingly, wrapping my wings around his body.
''And for having me surrender at your feet, you didn't come up with another better idea than head butt with everything you come across, eh? Then let me tell that it worked perfectly'' I whispered against his neck. The warm wind of the first summer day whispered between our naked bodies. Halvor dared to tease me again and I had no more option than giving what he wanted... Again.
After that night, we vowed to not tell what happened to anyone. It's out little secret... But everytime Summer Festival is approaching, I can't help but thinking about that intimate moment we shared together.
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{𝓑𝓪𝓼𝓲𝓬𝓼}
Name: aurora destile
Alias: adventurer, warrior of light
Gender: female
Age: 27
Species: au ra ( xaela )
Zodiac: aquarius / aries / cancer / capricorn / gemini / leo / libra / pisces / sagittarius / scorpio / taurus / virgo / unknown
Abilities/Talents: writing (she shares it with no one), lance work, jumping, the echo
{𝓟𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵}
Alignment: lawful / neutral / chaotic / good / neutral / evil / true
Religion: undecided
Sins: envy / greed / gluttony / lust / pride / sloth / wrath
Virtues: charity / chastity / diligence / humility / justice / kindness / patience
Languages: eorzea
Family: the destiles ( adoptive family ), the fortemps ( found family ) , unknown biological parents ( deceased )
Friends: scions of the seventh dawn, others
Sexual Orientation: heterosexual / bisexual / pansexual / homosexual / demisexual / asexual / unsure / other
Relationship status: single / dating / married / widowed / open relationship / other
Libido: sex god / very high / high / average / low / very low / non-existent
{𝓟𝓱𝔂𝓼𝓲𝓬𝓪𝓵}
Build: twig / bony / slender / average / athletic / curvy / chubby / obese
Hair: white / blonde / brunette / red / black / other
Eyes: brown / blue / green / black / other
Skin: pale / fair / olive / light brown / brown / very brown / other
Height: under 3 foot / 3-4 foot / 4-5 foot / 5-6 foot / 6-7 foot / above 7 foot
Weight: under 100 pounds / 100-150 pounds / 150-200 pounds / 200-250 pounds / above 250 pounds
Scars?: hands, body
Facial Features?: freckles
Tattoos?: none
{𝓒𝓱𝓸𝓸𝓼𝓮}
Dogs or Cats?
Birds or Hamsters?
Snakes or Spiders?
Red or Blue?
Yellow or Green?
Black or White?
Coffee or Tea?
Ice Cream or Cake?
Fruits or Vegetables?
Sandwich or Soup?
Magic or Melee?
Sword or Bow?
Summer or Winter?
Spring or Autumn?
The Past or The Future?
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And a really quickie one that leaves most of it up to your imagination: ( MC aren’t « dating »quite yet) MC getting hurt in some life threatening way, Julian using his magic glowy tattoo to save them. MC thanking him with some juicy smut. I’m confident you can come up with something amazing but If it’s too vague it’s alright too 🌸
"Wrong bottle, right outcome" (Julian x Reader)
AFAB Reader*
AFAB = Assigned-Female-At-Birth
WARNING: Contains smut, if you're under 18, don't read it (like people respect that, anyway)
Word Count: 1,965
Asra was out of town. Again. Faust went along with him, so the shop became really lonely. So you decided to ask Julian to come over. You two have met each other a few times before through Portia and had clicked instantly. You became really close, even though Asra didn't actually approved your friendship.
Knocks were heard on the shop's door and you couldn't help but to feel the adrenaline rushing through your body. You dropped the ingredients you were holding on the counter and rushed to the door, opening it faster than you intended.
The tall doctor was standing at the door, a sly smirk on his face with his hands hidden behind his back. With a delicate move, he showed what he was hiding behind his back, a single rose, and extending it to you, he slightly bowed.
"M'lady" You giggled at his gesture and rushed him in, closing the door behind you "Missed me much?"
"You don't leave me alone enough for me to miss you" You gestured to one of the armchairs for him to seat down and went to grab one the flasks you have left on the counter.
"Is that what I think it is?" He sat on the edge of the armchair and eyed the flask while almost salivating.
"Yes sir. I, (y/n), have developed the best alcoholic beverage for you. It has a mix of the most exotic ingredients you could imagine, a little bit of Nevraki milk and destilated salty bitters"
His eyes widened "Nevraki milk? Isn't it extremely poisonous?"
"Only if taken in high doses. I used only a few drops to make the drink a little bit more...interesting."
"And what do you mean by interesting?" He took the bottle from your hand, examinating it curiously.
"It's a surprise" You took the bottle bag, removing the stopper and chugging on it.
You had taken an interest on Julian for some time now, and your affection towards him grew day by day. You knew Julian was a flirt, and he definitely flirted with you, but that was it. Just flirting. And by the end of the day, you didn't know if he really liked you or not.
But you definitely felt the tension. Sexual tension. It happend around two weeks ago when you were play fighting and you landed on top of him. His hands landed on your thighs and you just stayed like that for a few seconds, until Faust bursted into the room and the situation got awkward.
Later on, he was complaining about how dull salty bitters have been feeling lately, and you had the genius idea of creating your own drink. The exact same one your were swallowing right now. But there was a trick.
You didn't know how to talk to Julian about your feelings and decided to give your relationship a little push. Inside the drink, there was a truth serum and I little bit of the essence extracted from an aphrodisiac flower. The results would yet to be known, but for sure it would make both of extremely honest...and horny. In your mind it was the perfect idea. But things started to feel weird when you started coughing.
You felt a sharp pain in your stomach and bent over a little. Julian immediately standed up and approached you, worried eyes trying to find the source of your pain. You rushed to the counter, ruminating over the flasks that layed on it and found what you were looking for, face palming yourself mentally. Asra had messed with the flasks, again, and you poured the whole content of the Nevraki milk on the mix, and only a few drops of the aphrodisiac. You needed to find the antidote in less than two minutes, or else you would die.
"What? What's going on? What's happening?" He asked as you kept on coughing.
You slightly pointed at the empty milk container as you still looked for the antidote, in hopes that he would understand and help you find it. He rushed to the table and, reading the label, mumbled something while reaching for your wrist. He pulled you away from the shelves, ignoring your protests and your face, mixed with fear and confusion, and sat on the couch, placing you on his lap. He held you firmly, against your will, and closed his eyes, as if he was focusing on something.
You felt the pain and discomfort slowly be drained out of your body. It was a weird relieving feeling. You turned your head to Julian, wondering what was happening and then you saw it. A glowing symbol on his neck, shining brighter than anything you have ever seen, even brighter than any magic Asra has ever casted. Soon, all the pain had left your body and Julian opened his eyes again.
Before he could say anything, a rough cough erupted from his mouth. It was escalating quickly and you felt the urge to do something about it. You jumped off his lap and rushed to the shelves again and found the antidote in no time. You went back to the doctor and poured the liquid into his mouth. It took some time, but soon, Julian had stopped coughing and everything seemed normal again.
You didn't know what to say, and neither did he. Yoh were both just waiting for the other to say something, hoping the situation could be easily solved.
"So, you're gonna explain it or should we just stare at each other?" You broke the silence between the two of you.
"I guess Asra didn't tell you that. Well, where to begin? Um, shortly before the Masquerade, I was force-fed a plague beetle at Lucio's command and confined to my office under the palace as an "extra incentive". I began experiencing visions of the Hanged Man, who offered me a deal in exchange for the plague cure, but I cannot remember what exactly the cure entailed. Regardless, the epidemic subsided and I was healed. The deal resulted in me receiving a mark on my throat and the ability to heal wounds rapidly, as well as absorb the wounds of others"
"Wow, that's...amazing!" You squealed and sat on the arm of the armchair.
"Oh, please, it's nothing but a curse" He growled in frustration, intending to get up from the chair, but you used your hand to gently push him back.
"You saved my life. I'll be forever grateful to you" You approximated your faces and you could feel the doctor's heart pounding on his chest "I can't even imagine a proper way to thank you"
"Well, I- I'm not sure what to say" He couldn't keep his eyes away from your lips.
"And you know what's crazy?" You didn't care anymore. You were going to tell him everything "I like you. I like you very, very much. I have fantasized about you...and me. I had even added an exotic aphrodisiac on the drink in hopes that it would help me out"
His eyes were wider than ever "You fantasized about me?" He managed to stutter it out.
"Countless times. They were all very steamy" You smoothly moved from the chair arm to his lap, straddling him while gripping his shoulders "I known a way to pay you back. To thank you. Are you...interested in it?"
He groaned as you ran your hand through his hair, removing his eyepatch and throwing it on the floor. You could feel a growing pressure coming from under you and you already knew his answer before he could say it.
"Yes, yes, yes, very interested indeed. You know, I have liked you for a while now, and I even though about telling you, but, you see-" You cut him off with a kiss.
"Can we talk about it later? I really need you right now" You ran you free hand down his body, slowly sliding it down to tease him, and stopped on his bulge "And I can see you are needy too. Want me to take care of that?"
He mumbled a quiet "yes" while nodding his head frantically, making his auburn locks fall on his face. You slid of his lap, hearing a soft groan of disappointment, and kneeled in front of him, not breaking eye contact.
"Pull them down" It only took a few second for him to finish your command. His trouser on his ankles and his cock hitting his belly.
What a view.
"I want you to tell me what you want me to do. It's all about you, baby" You ran your hands up and down his thick thighs, making him loose a little bit of his focus.
He mumbled something under his breath, trying to control his hands from tangling into your hair.
"If you want me to do it, you have to tell me, darling. Now, what is it that you want?"
"C-can you suck me, please?" His cheeks flushed and he tried to look at any other place, but you.
"As you wish" You smirked at him, knowing exactly how aroused he was, and slowly approached him.
Taking his dick into you hands, you slowly started to stroke it. Julian release a few shy whimpers and you knew you had to do more. Taking only the tip into your mouth, you slightly sucked on it. He released a throaty moan but instantly bit his lip to try and disguise, but it was too late.
You decided to push him over the edge and swallowed his whole member. He grabbed the arms of the chair to find balance and slightly bucked his hips, making him go even further into your throat.
"F-faster, please" He managed to ask between his loud moans and you followed his command. He moaned louder and his hand instantly flew to your hair, pushing your head even further.
"I'm cumming" He spat out, his shaky breath making it hard for him to speak. I instantly let go of his cock, earing a pleading look from his face.
"Trust me, love. It's going to get better"
I slowly removed all my clothes right in front of him, his wandering eyes not knowing exactly were to stare at. When every single piece of clothing was on the ground, you straddled his lap again, aligning his already wet dick on your entrance.
Without any warning, you sat down on him, and he instantly grabbed your hips. You rode him like your life depended on it, not once loosing rhythm. One of his hands moved to your breast, caressing it, taking in all of its beauty and approximating his hungry lips, until finally sticking his tongue out to twirl it around your nipple, before viciously sucking on it.
His hand moved to his tongue, wetting his fingers, before pressing them against your aching clit, rubbing it just the right way, making you throw your head back in pleasure.
You could feel him holding back, waiting for you to release first. So adorable. When you announced him you were close, and that you had reached your release, he embraced you, pulling you closer to him and slowly trusted into you in a passionate motion, until you felt his release as well.
You fell into his chest, exhausted from the ride and he laughed lightly, grabbing a nearby blanket and covering both of you up, his member still inside of you.
"Next time we can try that aphrodisiac of yours. Might give us a boost" You laughed and accommodated yourself on his chest, letting his fresh smell of cinnamon take over your senses.
"Maybe after our first official date" You looked at his cute shocked expression and giggled, giving him a light peck on the lips.
Maybe Asra messing with the bottle's labels wasn't so bad after all.
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That made me horny. Bye
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The transfer of property act 1882
Immovable properties
- The definition of immovable properties it is negative definition, which say what is not an immoveable property.
- Section 3- of Transfer of property Act 1882-immoveable property does not include standing timber, growing crops or grass.
- Section 3- of The General Clauses Act 1897- “ Immovable property-
Land Benefits to arise out of land- Profit Appendary (Exp- Rent, fishing rights, right to ferry, lease)
Things attached to the earth or permanently fastened to anything attached to the earth.- Exp- building, wall, poll.
Definition of Immovable Properties-
Section 3- immovable property shall include land, benefits to arise out of land, and things attached to the earth, or permanently fastened to anything attached to the earth, except standing timber, growing crops or grass, it also include creepers and betel leave.
What is the meaning of Land in TP-
There are four meaning of Land in TP-
1. Plot of land or plain land.
2. Land includes space as well.
3. Things beneath land.
4. Things above surface or thing on surface.
Case law- Narayan Sa v/s Balagure Swami AIR 1924 Madras 187
Vassal used for destilation of liquor not immovable property.
Standing Timber- Case Law- Shanti Bai v/s State of Bombay AIR 1958 SC 532
In this case SC held that , intention of the owner decide whether a standing timber a timber or crop.
- A fruit bearing tree are immovable property, if the owner treat it as a timber .
Q-
- which one is immovable property?- 2003-SN
- Growing crops? 2003-SN
- Right to ferry? 2003-SN
- Standing timber? 2003-SN
- Define immovable property. In which cases things which we know as movable are treated as immovable property? Is there any test to decide it-2007-L
A-
The definition of Immovable property given in the S.3 of Transfer of Property Act 1882, is not exhaustive, it is the negative definition which exclude the things and says immovable property does not include standing timber, growing crops or grass. The definition in the General clauses Act also not exhaustive but it is some what positive definition which includes land, benefits to arise out of land , and things attached to the earth.
Things attached to earth, or permanently fastened to anything attached to earth?
a. Things rooted in the earth- trees and shrubs.
b. Imbedded in the earth- wall or building.
c. Attached to what is so imbedded for permanent beneficial enjoyment of that which it is attached-
Perumal v/s Ramaswami – held- oil engine attached to earth and the attachment to lasts only so long as the engine is used. When it is not used, it can be detached and shifted to some other place. The attachment in such case immovable property.
Narayan Sa v/s Balagure Swami AIR 1924 Madras 187 Vassal used for destilation of liquor not immovable property.
The degree, manner, extent and strength of attachment of the chattel to the earth or building, are main features to be regarded. Further test is whether, such an attachment is for the permanent beneficial enjoyment of the immovable property to which it is attached.
Land- considers in its legal aspect, land includes the following elements:
1. A determinate portion of the earth’s surface.
2. Possibly the column of space above the surface.
3. The ground beneath the surface.
4. All objects which are on or under the surface in its natural state- minerals, lakes, ponds, rivers.
5. All objects placed by human agency on or under the surface, with the intention of permanent annexation. These become part of the land, and lose their identity as separate movable – building, walls, fences.
Benefits to arise out of land-
Apart from property being immovable from the physical point of view, every benefit arising out of it and every interest in such property is also regarded as immovable property.- hereditary allowances, rights of way, lights, ferries and fisheries. A debt secured by a mortgage of immovable property is an interest inland. A right to collect lac from jungle, flash from pond, right to take minerals, rent from hat or market place.
Things attached to earth-
S.3 – defines the expression –attached to the earth- as including-
1. Things rooted in the earth,
2. Things imbedded in the earth,
3. Things attached to what is so imbedded,
4. Chattel attached to earth or building.
Things rooted in the earth-
Includes like trees and shrubs, but when such trees constitute standing timber they are not immovable property.
Shantabai v/s State of Bombay- if the intention is to use them for enjoying their fruits, they will be regarded as immovable property. But if the intention is to cut them down sooner or later for the purpose of utilizing the wood they would be timber and regarded as movable property.
Similarly, growing crops, and grass are regarded as movable property.
Things imbedded in the earth-
Includes such things as houses and buildings, there are certain thing which are imbedded in the land but not a immovable property like anchor imbedded in the land to hold a ship.
When the article in question is no further attached to the land by its own weight, it is generally to be considered as movable property. But when in such a case if the intention is to make the articles as part of the land
The rule is- if the article stands on the earth up to its own weight, it will not be part of the land but if it is caused to go deeper in the earth by external agency, then it is part of a land.
Things attached to what is so imbedded-
Includes like door, window of a house are attached to the house for the permanent enjoyment of the house, when the intention Is not permanent enjoyment then it becomes the movable property like fans, blinds.
Chattel attached to earth or building-
If a chattel, i.e., movable property is attached to earth or building, it is immovable property.
Perumal naicker v/s Ramaswami Kone- A property is a movable property and for its beneficial use of enjoyment it is necessary to imbed it or fix it on earth, through permanently, that is , when it is in use it should not be regarded as immovable property for that reason.
For example – sugar cane machine or oil engine.
Recognized as Immovable properties-
1. Right to collect rent of immovable property.
2. Right to collect dues from a fair on a piece of land.
3. Right of ferry.
4. Right of way.
5. A right of fishery.
6. A debt secured by mortgage and interest of a mortgage of immovable property.
7. Hereditary offices.
8. Right to receive future rents and profits of land.
9. The equity of redemption.
10. Reversion of property of leased.
11. Right to collect lac from trees.
12. A factory.
Recognized as movable properties-
1. Right to worship.
2. A royalty.
3. A decree for sale of immovable property.
4. A decree for arrears of rent.
5. A right to recover maintenance allowance.
6. A machinery which is not permanently attached to the earth.
7. Government promissory notes.
8. Standing timber, growing crops, and grass.
Section 5, Transfer of Property
Section 5. "Transfer of Property" defined. In the following sections "transfer of property" means an act by which a living person conveys property, in present or in future, to one or more other living persons, or to himself and one or more other living persons; and "to transfer property" is to perform such act.
When we analyze the above definition- there are few things which comes up regarding Transfer of property-
• Transfer is an ACT- Giving and Taking of Rights- Active Act, Visible Act.
• Between two or more LIVING PERSON- by which a living person Inter vivos- Living or Natural person and Artificial Person ( Law existence, company).
• Conveys- transfer.
• Present or future- Future property not allowed.
• Property- Property to another person- To himself ( Trust, minor or guardianship- Rahubar Singh v/s Jai Jnder Bhadur Singh.
Transfer of Property
Act
Practice
Insolvent
Subject matter
Mode of Transfer
There are modes of transfer of property
1. Sale (Immovable Property). Transfer of Complete Rights. Consideration.
2. Mortgage. ( it is of six kind- 1. Possession,2. Enjoyment,3. Subject to Condition,4. Equitable,5. Symbolic, 6. Constructive.) Limited Rights Transfer.
3. Gift- ( No consideration)
4. Actionable claim.- Unsecure debt.
5. Lease (Time force, Rent)
Movable Property= Pledge
Immovable Property= Mortgage.
Machinery= Hypotation.
In this section "living person" includes a company or association or body of individuals, whether incorporated or not, but nothing herein contained shall affect any law for the time being in force relating to transfer of property to or by companies, associations or bodies of individuals.
x x x x x
What is transfer? The term "transfer" means a process or an act by which something is made over to another. It does not however, mean that the making over of the thing should always be absolute. I may transfer my book to you for a day. I may also transfer it to you absolutely either by sale, gift or in exchange of your book. In either case, what is primarily essential is that I have to handover the book to you, and that act of handing over the book to you is the transfer of the book.
Analysis of Definition.
1. Transfer of Property has special technical meaning in Transfer of Property Act. Only 5 conveyances are transfer of property for the Act. Three modes convey absolute title e.g. sale, gift, exchange. Two convey limited interest e.g. mortgage and lease.
2. Transfer inter vivos alone are included as Transfer in Transfer of Property Act, e.g. transfer from living person or persons to living person or persons.
3. Transfer can be present or future but transferor and transferee must be living person. The only exception is Section 13 of Transfer of Property Act.
4. Living person is wider term than natural human beings. It includes juristic persons like company and other like associations or body of individuals whether registered or not registered.
5. Other laws governing transfer to juristic persons etc. are not affected by Transfer of Property Act.
Synopsis-
Definition-
An act by which,
A living person,
Conveys,
In present or future,
Property,
To another living person.
Not a Transfer of Property
- Family settlement.
- Compromise
- Partition.
- Surrender.
- Relinquishment.
- Charge.
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Transfer of Property
- Release
- Property situated outside India.
An Act- it means it is a process or an activity; it is not a digital application or not the automatic process. Meaning thereby, something should be done by the person who wants to transfer his or her property. Will or Inheritance is the exception of this rule as property transfer automatically by operation of law.
Living Person- The Act use the word Inter Vivos i.e. transfer between living person AT THE DATE OF TRANSFER. Operation of law come into picture in case of Inheritance or wills ( means the death of the transferor) this sort of transfer ( By operation of law) called TESTAMENTRARY TRANSFER.
Conveys – Doing an act of transfer denote conveys. It means any act the transferor by which certain new titles or interests are created in favor of the transferee. In simple language it would be called the ASSURANCE which is being given by Transferor to the Transferee. Conveys means anything done or any assurance given by the Transferor to the Transferee by virtue of which the transferee gets the new title or interest is called the conveys.
Emp-
A -------------------- Make (Sale/Gift/Moorgate etc) ------------ B ( Now get the new title)
Conveys
In present or In future- The transfer of property may be take place immediately or in future date, the expression in present or in future governed by Conveys, it does not govern by the property.
Means the title of property may vested in the transferee immediately with enjoyment or it enjoyment can be delayed or postpone for future, which can also comply with certain conditions.
Property- property may be tangible or intangible, property is essentially a bundle of rights or interest. When a property is transferred it actually the transfer of rights. All rights in a property denote the ownership or absolute interest.
in Sunil Sidhartbai v/s Commissioner of Income tax, SC held that in general transfer of property transferred the bundle of right but in some case it may only be partial of right transfer also happen example – Lease.
In Jugalkishore V/ Ram Cotton Co. Ltd. SC held- the world PRESENT OR IN FUTURE’ qualify the word conveys and not the word property. When a future property is transferred the transferee does not get that property or interest there in.
To another living person. There should be another person to whom the property can be transfer, a person can not transfer the property to himself, but in 1929 some amendment has been made and a person can transfer a property to himself in case he make any settlement in a trust and he become the sole trustee.
Other Rules- Not a Transfer of Property
Family Settlement-
Family settlement or Family agreement is not a transfer of property, why because when it take place the already existing shares of the members of the family are defined and separated in order to avoid any possible dispute. In Sadu Madho Das V/s Pandit Mukund Ram, SC observed the same principle.
Transfer of property
Release- It is a transfer of property, because when larger interest falls into smallest interest every small interest generate a title for some one or new person.
This Act also applicable on MOVABLE AND IMMOVABLE PROPERTYS ( Part A –Chapter II).
S.6- What Can be Transfer-
Section -6
General Rule- Every thing Can be Transfer
Exception- Prohibited by S.TPA, any other law in force.
Section .6 – Non Transferable.
• Spes Successionis- Mere Chance to Get any thing.
• Chance of an Heir apparent.
• Chance of getting property under will.
• Any othe rpossibility like nature.
• Spes-successionis under Muslim Law.
• Spes Successionis in Punjab.
• English Law.
• Mere Right of re entry.
• Easement right apart from Dominate Heritage.
• Restricted Interest.
• Right to Future Maintenance.
• Pensions and Stipens.
• Transfer opposed to Nature of Interest.
• Transfer opposed to nature of interest created thereby.
• Transfer where its object or consideration is unlawful.
• Transfer made to disqualified transfereee.
Spes Successionis- Expectation of succession ( of gaining something)
Exp- will or inheritance
It includes- - Base – You can not transfer mere hope.
• Chance of an Heir apparent- succeeding to an estate.
• Chance of getting property under will.
• Any othe rpossibility like nature.
Right of reversioners u/Hindu Law.
Reversioner was a person who used to inherit the properties of a widow held by her for life. After the death of widow.
Chance of Legacy- because the will executed only after the death of the testator.
Rights of Future offering. Receiving offering of a temple.
Case law-
Punch Tahkur v/s Bindeshwari AIR 1916 Cal 43 Cultauta High Court held-
it is mere possibility so it cannot be transfer.
Balmukund v/s Tularam AIR 1928 All 21
It is not the spes succession , it is not a hope or uncertain and not variable to pass and of conception of law hence transferable.
Badrinath v/s Punna AIR 1979 SC 13`14 – Vashno Devi Tample –
It is not a mare possibility it is attached with a duty, and held it is heritable and it is not depending upon possibility it is coupled with duty and hence transferable.
Spes Succession Condition in English Law
Spes Secceession not transferable but it depend on one conditions,
1. if the transferee has paid the consideration.
2. If everything goes well that contemplated event has been done.
Section 9- Oral Transfer- Mode of Transfer
This section deal with mode of transfer, it says where writing is not necessary the property may be transferred orally. i.e. without writing any deed.
It means there are two mode of transfer-
1. Delivery of possession- which generally happened in case of movable property.
2. Transfer by registration.
In the following condition Registration are compulsory u/s 9 of TPA-
1. Gift of an immovable property.
2. Sale of an immovable property exceeding Rs 100.
3. Sale of reversion or other intangible property irrespective out of its value.
4. Leases form year to year or for a term exceeding one year or reserving a year rent.
5. Simple mortgage irrespective of its amount.
6. Other kind of mortgage( except mortgage by deposit of title deeds) where the sum secured exceeds Rs 100.
7. Exchange of immovable property ERs 100.
8. Transfer of actionable claim.
Section 10 Conditional Transfer
Conditional transfer if allowed.
There are two form of Conditions-
1. Use related conditions.
2. Further transfer of property- alienation.
Application of S.10-
Does not apply on –
1. Mortgage
2. Lease
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Let the Past die. III
CHAPTER 3
Zombie Apocolypse AU
Kylo x Reader (+ Solo siblings)
Words: +1.700
Warnings: Mentionings of Blood and well ... Zombies :D
AN: Sorry if this chapter is a little bit all over the placeand short, but it was one hell of a stressful week. I hope you enjoy this Chapter none the less though. Here is a little bit of Angst and Fluff before next weeks chapter hits :>
MY MASTERLIST
REQUESTS
Previous Chapter - Starry Night
Chapter 3 - Static
“Matt, how are you doing over there?” Kylo was carrying two canisters of destiled water in each hand and placed them outside the gas station next to their filled backpacks.
“It´s almost full, just a few more minutes.” his older brother explained while pushing his glasses up again.
“Well then I get some more food and tell the kids that we´re back soon.” munching on a chocolate bar, Kylo made another round through the empty shop and put everything they could use into one of the shopping bags from the counter.
Throwing in travel toothbrushes, toothpaste, maps, small bottles of juice for Ben and Y/N and basically everything he could basically find.
Even a bottle of alcohol went into the bag, since he knew they didn´t have much disinfection spray.
He stopped in front of a shelf, looking at a cheap Polaroid camera and threw it in as well as some films for it before returning outside.
“You shouldn´t take so much, other people could need it as well.“ Matt suddenly mumbled and Kylo only cocked a brow.
“Do you really think somebody else would care about the well being of others in this kind of situation? Everyone fends for themselves, the world has always been like this. Now they just don´t have to act the nice part anymore.”
Sometimes Kylo couldn´t believe how naive his older brother could be, maybe that was why he turned out to be so sceptical.
“Y/N, we are almost done here. How are things on your End?” when he loosened the grip on the walkie talkie the only thing he could hear was the static crackling threw the speaker.
“You hear me?” another moment with no answer and his head snapped to Matt who looked back at him while the canister in his hand got dangerously full.
“You don´t think something happened?” Matt quickly shut the Gas of and screwed the lid shut, while Kylo threw the backpack over to him, quickly pulling his own over his shoulders and grabbing the big cans of water.
While they were stumbling through the field, Kylo tried to reach out to her via the Walkie Talkie until he suddenly heard Bens quiet voice.
“Please come quick...” the small boy whispered before the static rung in their ears again.
Immediately starting to run, both of them couldn´t stop to think of the worst case scenario.
When the truck came in sight both of them slowed down to catch their breaths, Kylo letting out a relieved sighed.
Y/N was sitting on the cargo bed, staring into the other direction while Ben was looking out the window from the drivers cabin.
Continuing their walk Matt and Kylo arrived with heavy breaths and let the heavy loot fall onto the ground.
“What the hell happened?” leaning against the truck he followed her gaze and grabbed his knife.
“I´m sorry, I didn´t have time to respond and ...” shaking her head for a moment she looked at the bloody knife in her hand.
“They were attracted by the sound of that plastic bag when we stumbled over it. I tied it to the bush but one of them seemed to noticed us while we sneaked away.”
Kylo saw a body a few feet away and just nodded. “Thank you, for keeping Ben safe. I take care of them.”
Quickly grabbing Kylos shoulder, Y/N tried to hold him back.
“They are distracted, just let them be. We will be gone before they even notice.” she plead, not wanting him or anyone else in danger if it could be avoided.
Loosening her grip gently he turned back around to Y/N. “Would you forgive yourself if they would cross somebody elses path who isn´t as prepaired as we are?”
Looking into his brown eyes, she felt herself suddenly nodding and let go of his jacket.
“I´ll … I´ll help you.” surprised Kylo stopped in his tracks but helped her down from the trunk.
“You don´t need to do this.” he reminded her, but she had a stern look in her eyes.
“Nobody should be left in this kind of state. Who knows if they realise what their doing but just can´t control their bodys anymore…. And need to watch everything but can´t stop themselves. I wouldn´t want to stay like that.” clenching her hand around the handle of the knife, her knuckles slowly turned white.
“Alright…” he nodded, leading the way.
After filling the tank to the brim, Kylo went a second time to get more Gas and they adjusted all their belongings on the cargo bed so the middle was accessible for at least a sleeping bag or two.
It was tight but it would be good enough for the rest of the night and a good rest.
“I´ll take the first watch.” Kylo offered his brother, while looking over to Y/N and Ben who filled the driver cabin with a few blankets.
“No it´s alright I´ll do it. Just because Dad and Uncle Luke tried to make you into a fighter, doesn´t mean you always have to be one, you know?” the Blonde sighed, his voice filled with guilt.
Just because he was such a failure, his younger brother had to take this burden instead. Sitting down next to Matt, Kylo only gave him a light hit against the back of his head. Matt quickly grabbed his glasses so they wouldn´t fall off.
“Don´t worry about that. It comes in handy now doesn´t it.” with an encouraging smirk he laid an arm around Matts shoulders and pushed their heads together.
“You are my brother. No matter what happens and you always will be.”
“Maybe I would have been better as a little brother huh?” Matt laughed before they got distracted by footsteps.
“Sorry I didn´t mean to interrupt.” Y/N clutched onto the sweatjacket around her shoulder while circling to the end of the truck.
Both of the boys stretched a hand out to her, so she could join them on the trunk.
“Can´t sleep?” Kylo asked and Matt saw how his younger brother was looking at the girl. Shoving his glasses back onto his nose Matt could only smirk and hopped from the truck. “I´ll look after Ben.”
Y/N and Kylo looked after the blonde man, then at eachother and Kylo only shrugged with his shoulders. Seeing that she quickly pulled the Hood of her jacket over her head and pulling her legs close to her chest, he tried to reach for a blanket.
“No it´s fine.” Y/N tried to argue, but Kylo could see her shiver.
“You should at least get in one of the sleeping bags.” he countered sternly and the only thing she could do was to give in.
Crawling to the other end of the truck, she cuddled into the sleepingbag and leaned her back against the drivers cabin, before Kylo sat down next to her.
Squished against his wide shoulders and their bags, she suddenly started to giggle. “Well know i´m sure i´m not getting cold anymore.” she joked and a rare smile appeared on Kylos lips.
“I still can´t wrap my head around what has happened. A few hours ago I was worrying about my chemistry test and now ….” shaking her head for a moment, she pulled her legs closer again to rest her head on her knees.
“It seems to be some kind of infection. Mom told us that there were incidents already, but the government choose to not tell it to the puplic. They didn´t expect it to run wild in just a few hours.”with every word his voice grew deeper with anger.
“How does the infection work?” it was just a mere whisper, but he knew that she porpably had it on her mind for a while.
“Was there really no cure at all?” she didn´t cry, no sobs either and her voice didn´t break, but it still made his stomach turn.
“Not… for everyone.”
“So you lied to me?!” Y/Ns head snapped immediately up to look him directly in his eyes.
Laying his big hand onto her head, he sighed.
“No. No, I didn´t. It was to late for them… If you get bit or even scratched, the infection will kill you and then it is like a restart. But Nothing is left of the former self.” he explained calmly.
“So only those who just got infected but didn´t die can be rescued?”
Slowly nodding his head, Kylo sighed again and lifted his hand from her head.
For a moment there was just a comfortable silence between them until Y/N spoke up again.
“Kylo? I´m… I´m sorry for calling you a monster.” he could hear in her voice that she felt uncomfortable to bring it up again.
“Don´t worry. It´s not the first time I hear that. Really it´s alright.”
She scoffed and looked up at him again. “Well that doesn´t sound alright to me. Who said that?”
“Does it matter?” Kylo returned the question with a grin. Shrugging with her shoulders Y/N only sighed.
Feeling his enormous hand on her head again, she tried to look up. “But I appreciate your apology.”
With a grown she laid her head on her knees again and he rased an eyebrow.
“Everything alright?”
“I feel a little naceous...” she mumbled and it felt like a lighting bulb went off over his head.
“Shoot, you didn´t have any food! I totally forgot to give you and Ben the stuff we took.” lightly tapping onto the window from the drivers cabin, Kylo waited until Ben sticked his head up. “You hungry, buddy?”
“Starving!” his younger brother nodded and opened the window to take the plastic bag with snacks for him.
Handing Y/N the other bag, her Eyes widened at her favourite pie on top.
“I can´t believe you really got some!” she grinned and immediately bite into the sweet tart.
“Slow down, otherwise you´re gonna choke.” while laughing, Kylo offered her a small bottle of water.
While to other two were filling their tummys and Matt made another round, Kylo studied the maps again, before he noticed something heavy against his arm.
Looking down at it, he saw Y/N had fallen asleep and slowly sunk down against him.
Only a few more hours and their all would be in Washington and reunited with their Parents. At least that it was Kylo thought, not knowing how wrong he was.
NEXT CHAPTER - Nothing left
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Well seems like Jared has finally taken a call to distance himself from SPN Conventions circuit. I, for one would be happy If he decides to not attend this toxic get together where he is treated as a punch bag by fans as well his colleagues. There is zero material coming ot of these cons I mean I can literally tell what all will be said in upcoming call
- there will be hellers trying to get validation
- J2 will try to sell their chemistry.
-Jensen will go overboard and act all brotherly with Jared. On other hand Jared will read the studio line of how Jensen work hard for TW and he got faith in him
- Questions on Jensen directing Walker?/ Will Jared appear on TW
- Some rehashed kids story for distraction. Acting advice. Mental Health advice or gratitude to J2
- Jensen will crush destiel hope when they try to reel him with Destil questions.
In the aftermath Destiel will crib how Jensen is queerbaiting in two hours they find some ridiculous reason to blame Jared and divert all their hate on to him.
It us so tiring just by look of it and Jared has to live it with smile on the face. I am happy he is choosing himself. I would be happy If Jared starts Walker cons, it will be fun to see Walker cast, who got nothing but respect for Jared.
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Sten Hugo Hiller - 627184: An assignment stinking to high heavens
(By Sten Hugo Hiller - 627184) An assignment stinking to high heavens
The war of `58 was just around the corner, and we of the Star League had as usual signed up to participate in it.
Admittedly, our ranks have thinned over the decades, and finding Commanders willing to join us is harder than getting a double win in the lotto. At the moment, our rooster had just enough Commanders to allow us to participate in a regular clan war, but Tony Hoogheem, -head of the Rumors and Deduction department, had gone under the radar years back trying to localize all of Gorax` bases and henchmen.
When he succeeded, this hopefully would let the combined weight of the Mercenary clans wipe him out for good. But in the meantime it left a gaping hole in Star Leagues offensive capabilities.
I recieved a summon from the temporary head of Relations and Diplomacy (Clan leader) -Drake Hunter, and arrived promptly at his office. He was busy studying the roosters of the probable opponents we would face, and he was not a happy man. At the sight of me he shook his head and in a tone that signaled the decision had been made he said "I have a job for you, suited to your particular talents"
Last time those words were directed to me in that tone had been when the drill sergeant in my recruit platoon wanted me to clean the latrines. But surely that was not what Drake had in mind? But after listening to him explain what he wanted me to do, I fervently whished the job had been to lick the latrines clean instead.
As those of you that follows the news should be aware of, Team Banzai recently came upon one of Gorax` Mechs while it was being swarmed by Snavurms. It turned out the Snavurms skin oils somehow did kill off the Gorax virus, and had actually restored both the Mech and the pilot to normal. So far so good, but managing to get hordes of wild Snavurms into contact with the Gorax infested Mechs would be close to impossible. Say you found a tribe of them, how to get them to the Gorax infested Mechs instead of swarming over your own was more than I had any idea of.
Of course, Drake was not thinking of using some random tribe of wild Snavurms. He wanted me to bring my uplifted Snavurms along and take care of the problem.
I was really tempted to tell him where he could put that job, but held my tongue. While the uplifted Snavurms on Kongo at this point probably could field twice as many Mechs as the Shogunate and the Hegemony combined, having armies of Snavurms shoving up all over the Galaxy, -even on a mission to eradicate Gorax, could well trigger a xeno-war.
So I nodded and went to the hangar, mind busy trying to figure how to solve the problem, not just following orders. Getting the Snavurms to volunteer was no problem, and when I explained to Boris and Keikko what their part of the mission would be, they tried to kiss my hands while prostating themselves. Question was what Mechs to use.
I finally decided on using my Nifthels as the main force. Heidrun (my first Apototron) would be our mobile HQ/destillery/lab, Boris and Keikko would of course ride their customized Hoplites (Pala Hobog and Hobog Ka?), and we brought along some factory fresh Nephilax`es where all the armament and communication gear had been removed as test vehicles/lures. To avoid possible contamination risk we would operate from one of the recently discovered planets in the Clarke federation where no other humans were supposed to be.
The first part of the plan was to capture some pirates. Scouring the Pirate Moon we found some Kanabo Crusher posers. If the real Kanabo Crushers had discovered that those wannabees had posed as the real thing, their fates would probably have been even worse than what we had in mind for them. Meanwhile, Boris and Keikko had been busy distilling kiloliters of Snavurm spirit.
That concotion is probably the second worst drink ever made. 140 proof alcohool and 30% Snavurm sweat makes it something no sane person would want within lightyears of their solar system. The only drink that is worse is the Old Karelia. Produced from rotting fish oil, it is banned on most planets that have ever heard of it, and classified as chemical warfare on those that have experienced it. If you were to give a pilot a choiche between the two of them, the most likely choice would be to power up the Mech and vaporize both you and the drinks in question. -On second thought, they would prefer to burn you and the drinks.
While most of the task force was building holding facilities for the pirates, I got the dubious plesure of leading some Snavurms on what was perhaps the most foolhardy part of the plan. -Capture some live Gorax virus.
After blowing up some of Gorax`s minions, my Snavurms (in contamination suits so they wouldnt kill the virus) got plenty of samples sealed in specially prepared containers. Hopefully the virus would not escape into the Snavurm-smell filled cockpits and perish before we got back to the base and could put it to better use.
At the base, the holding facilities for the pirates had been finished. Each pirate was in a small, windowless cabin placed in a deep hollow it should be impossible to escape from. Now, the Nephilax`es were being prepared. Each of them were rigged with a small container of Gorax virus that would be released when the cockpit were opened.
Boris and Keikko had also been busy on the second part of their job. The question had been how to deliver the Snavurm spirit to Gorax infected Mechs. They had come up with three possibilities. Removing the warheads in the Small Cluster Rack missiles, and filling them with a container of Snavurm spirit. Tinkering with the Small Flame launchers so instead of a stream of fire it delivered a spray of Snavurm spirit. And putting some Snavurm spirit in the shells for the Dynamo Cannon.
Personally I thought the Small Cluster Rack missiles had the best potential. They had a decent payload and long reach. The Dynamo Cannon were faster, and had similar range, but would the small amount of liquid be enough? As for the Small Flamers, they sure would cover a target in fluid, but it was shorter ranged, and the tanks were after all not that big. -Besides, the stench would surely reach the one firing the Flamer as well, making its continued use questionable.
But it was time to test my theories. The first Nephilax were carefully winched to the outside of one of the cabins. The Snavrums ringed the rim in their Nifthels, and the locks in the cabin disengaged. It took a few minutes before the pirate inside pecked out. When he saw the parked Nephilax he sprinted for it, ripped open the Cockpit and dived inside. At first he tried to scale the walls, but soon the Nephilax started sprouting the spikes asosciated with the Gorax virus. The Mech started gyrating vildly as the pirate was infected, but after a couple minutes it started a methodic digging to make a ramp for its escape.
Now was the time to check the weapons. As feared, the Small Flamer`s Reach was short, but enough of the stream converted into droplets that the Nephilax soon glistened in the little light that reached it. The Gorax spikes vilted away and soon the cokpit opened and the pirate dived headfirst out of the Mech. The fall only stunned him for a minute, and when he came to he was scraming as a lost soul. "THE STENCH!!!! I CANT STAND IT" Stumbling around, he fell into a small puddle of snavrum spirit and the screams reached a feverish pitch. He ran toward the ramp he had tried to make, and before we had any inkling of what he planned he had picked up a big rock and bashed in his own head.
As it turned out, even one of the Dynamo Cannon`s shells had enough payload to do the job, -eventually. And as I had hoped, the Small Cluster Racks payload was big enough that one hit would kill off the virus in about eight seconds.
Three more pirates died during the testing when their headlong dives brpke their skulls or their necks. The rest were tranquilized and strapped down on the cots in the cabins we had preapared for them earlier.
Of course, that left the question of caring for them. The Snavurm stench was so strong that only a Snavurm could stand it, and using the Snavrums as nurses were both maintaining the smell, and driving the pirates into a catatonic state due to fear.
But. The mission were acomplished. And it was time for me to return and report the success. The blueprints for the changed weapons were copied, and the destillation process for making the Snavurm spirit was painstalkingly detailed.
Unfortunately, we had been away for a long time, and when we returned the base was in ruins. The first battleday had ended, and the Death`s Collectors had flattened us. Still, Drake took some time to listen to the reports, but was not satisfied. "What you have come up with, is a cure most will consider worse than the plague. You simply have to do something about the stench. And speaking of stench, get out of here before you contaminate the whole base."(By Sten Hugo Hiller - 627184) An assignment stinking to high heavensThe war of `58 was just around the corner, and we of the Star League had as usual signed up to participate in it.Admittedly, our ranks have thinned over the decades, and finding Commanders willing to join us is harder than getting a double win in the lotto. At the moment, our rooster had just enough Commanders to allow us to participate in a regular clan war, but Tony Hoogheem, -head of the Rumors and Deduction department, had gone under the radar years back trying to localize all of Gorax` bases and henchmen.When he succeeded, this hopefully would let the combined weight of the Mercenary clans wipe him out for good. But in the meantime it left a gaping hole in Star Leagues offensive capabilities.I recieved a summon from the temporary head of Relations and Diplomacy (Clan leader) -Drake Hunter, and arrived promptly at his office. He was busy studying the roosters of the probable opponents we would face, and he was not a happy man. At the sight of me he shook his head and in a tone that signaled the decision had been made he said "I have a job for you, suited to your particular talents"Last time those words were directed to me in that tone had been when the drill sergeant in my recruit platoon wanted me to clean the latrines. But surely that was not what Drake had in mind? But after listening to him explain what he wanted me to do, I fervently whished the job had been to lick the latrines clean instead.As those of you that follows the news should be aware of, Team Banzai recently came upon one of Gorax` Mechs while it was being swarmed by Snavurms. It turned out the Snavurms skin oils somehow did kill off the Gorax virus, and had actually restored both the Mech and the pilot to normal. So far so good, but managing to get hordes of wild Snavurms into contact with the Gorax infested Mechs would be close to impossible. Say you found a tribe of them, how to get them to the Gorax infested Mechs instead of swarming over your own was more than I had any idea of.Of course, Drake was not thinking of using some random tribe of wild Snavurms. He wanted me to bring my uplifted Snavurms along and take care of the problem.I was really tempted to tell him where he could put that job, but held my tongue. While the uplifted Snavurms on Kongo at this point probably could field twice as many Mechs as the Shogunate and the Hegemony combined, having armies of Snavurms shoving up all over the Galaxy, -even on a mission to eradicate Gorax, could well trigger a xeno-war.So I nodded and went to the hangar, mind busy trying to figure how to solve the problem, not just following orders. Getting the Snavurms to volunteer was no problem, and when I explained to Boris and Keikko what their part of the mission would be, they tried to kiss my hands while prostating themselves. Question was what Mechs to use.I finally decided on using my Nifthels as the main force. Heidrun (my first Apototron) would be our mobile HQ/destillery/lab, Boris and Keikko would of course ride their customized Hoplites (Pala Hobog and Hobog Ka?), and we brought along some factory fresh Nephilax`es where all the armament and communication gear had been removed as test vehicles/lures. To avoid possible contamination risk we would operate from one of the recently discovered planets in the Clarke federation where no other humans were supposed to be.The first part of the plan was to capture some pirates. Scouring the Pirate Moon we found some Kanabo Crusher posers. If the real Kanabo Crushers had discovered that those wannabees had posed as the real thing, their fates would probably have been even worse than what we had in mind for them. Meanwhile, Boris and Keikko had been busy distilling kiloliters of Snavurm spirit.That concotion is probably the second worst drink ever made. 140 proof alcohool and 30% Snavurm sweat makes it something no sane person would want within lightyears of their solar system. The only drink that is worse is the Old Karelia. Produced from rotting fish oil, it is banned on most planets that have ever heard of it, and classified as chemical warfare on those that have experienced it. If you were to give a pilot a choiche between the two of them, the most likely choice would be to power up the Mech and vaporize both you and the drinks in question. -On second thought, they would prefer to burn you and the drinks.While most of the task force was building holding facilities for the pirates, I got the dubious plesure of leading some Snavurms on what was perhaps the most foolhardy part of the plan. -Capture some live Gorax virus.After blowing up some of Gorax`s minions, my Snavurms (in contamination suits so they wouldnt kill the virus) got plenty of samples sealed in specially prepared containers. Hopefully the virus would not escape into the Snavurm-smell filled cockpits and perish before we got back to the base and could put it to better use.At the base, the holding facilities for the pirates had been finished. Each pirate was in a small, windowless cabin placed in a deep hollow it should be impossible to escape from. Now, the Nephilax`es were being prepared. Each of them were rigged with a small container of Gorax virus that would be released when the cockpit were opened.Boris and Keikko had also been busy on the second part of their job. The question had been how to deliver the Snavurm spirit to Gorax infected Mechs. They had come up with three possibilities. Removing the warheads in the Small Cluster Rack missiles, and filling them with a container of Snavurm spirit. Tinkering with the Small Flame launchers so instead of a stream of fire it delivered a spray of Snavurm spirit. And putting some Snavurm spirit in the shells for the Dynamo Cannon.Personally I thought the Small Cluster Rack missiles had the best potential. They had a decent payload and long reach. The Dynamo Cannon were faster, and had similar range, but would the small amount of liquid be enough? As for the Small Flamers, they sure would cover a target in fluid, but it was shorter ranged, and the tanks were after all not that big. -Besides, the stench would surely reach the one firing the Flamer as well, making its continued use questionable.But it was time to test my theories. The first Nephilax were carefully winched to the outside of one of the cabins. The Snavrums ringed the rim in their Nifthels, and the locks in the cabin disengaged. It took a few minutes before the pirate inside pecked out. When he saw the parked Nephilax he sprinted for it, ripped open the Cockpit and dived inside. At first he tried to scale the walls, but soon the Nephilax started sprouting the spikes asosciated with the Gorax virus. The Mech started gyrating vildly as the pirate was infected, but after a couple minutes it started a methodic digging to make a ramp for its escape.Now was the time to check the weapons. As feared, the Small Flamer`s Reach was short, but enough of the stream converted into droplets that the Nephilax soon glistened in the little light that reached it. The Gorax spikes vilted away and soon the cokpit opened and the pirate dived headfirst out of the Mech. The fall only stunned him for a minute, and when he came to he was scraming as a lost soul. "THE STENCH!!!! I CANT STAND IT" Stumbling around, he fell into a small puddle of snavrum spirit and the screams reached a feverish pitch. He ran toward the ramp he had tried to make, and before we had any inkling of what he planned he had picked up a big rock and bashed in his own head.As it turned out, even one of the Dynamo Cannon`s shells had enough payload to do the job, -eventually. And as I had hoped, the Small Cluster Racks payload was big enough that one hit would kill off the virus in about eight seconds.Three more pirates died during the testing when their headlong dives brpke their skulls or their necks. The rest were tranquilized and strapped down on the cots in the cabins we had preapared for them earlier.Of course, that left the question of caring for them. The Snavurm stench was so strong that only a Snavurm could stand it, and using the Snavrums as nurses were both maintaining the smell, and driving the pirates into a catatonic state due to fear.But. The mission were acomplished. And it was time for me to return and report the success. The blueprints for the changed weapons were copied, and the destillation process for making the Snavurm spirit was painstalkingly detailed.Unfortunately, we had been away for a long time, and when we returned the base was in ruins. The first battleday had ended, and the Death`s Collectors had flattened us. Still, Drake took some time to listen to the reports, but was not satisfied. "What you have come up with, is a cure most will consider worse than the plague. You simply have to do something about the stench. And speaking of stench, get out of here before you contaminate the whole base."

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One of the perks of moving to a new city, especially if it’s abroad, is the fact that we always pay more attention to our surroundings, to every detail the regular resident overlooks. That’s exactly what has happened to me during the last two and a half months, since I started living in the dream come true of Romantic authors, the city is almost from the pages of a fairytale: Heidelberg.
A regular tourist spends here no more than 2-3 days, enough to visit a city of 150,000 inhabitants, but as a result of my several encounters with vacationers here, I realized many of them did not get to experience part of what makes Heidelberg unique. If you are about to visit the city, or are thinking of returning, then this is your perfect city guide.
The very first and most remarkable landmark any visitor with a pair of eyes on their face gets to see is, of course, the Heidelberg Castle or “Heidelberger Schloss” in German. It doesn’t matter whether you are a regular tourist or an adventurous backpacker, this is a must-see. It is not without reason that this year it ranks as the 2nd most popular tourist attraction in Germany according to the German National Tourism Board. However, it is not only the castle which grabs your attention. A common mistake made by tourists is going back to the city as soon as walk out the gates, but if you decide to turn left instead, your steps will lead you to the castle gardens, which at the time they were built were regarded by contemporaries as the eighth wonder of the world.
You should walk to the very end of the gardens and then turn left, to the long terrace. If by chance you visited the city during the last few months, you will have come across a metallic structure half blocking the combined view of the Castle, the city, the Old Bridge, and the valley. But from about one week ago, this structure is no longer there, now the terrace invites the visitor to admire a sight that leaves no doubts as to why Heidelberg inspired dozens of writers and poets in their artworks.Do not miss on your way back the Ginkgo tree, a unique and oriental tree planted in this garden in honor of a poem by Goethe. When admiring, do check where you are standing: stepping on one of its fruits will result in an unbearable stink getting stuck to your shoe.
When coming back to the old part of the city or Altstadt (do not take the funicular, it’s expensive and the views are not worth it), no matter what route you take, you will run into several majestic building crowned by various flags with an architecture completely in line with the style of the Castle. Most of these buildings actually belong to fraternities, which as a result of being home to the oldest University in Germany, are numerous in Heidelberg, and it has to be mentioned, not very much loved.One of the most remarkable sights of Heidelberg can also be found right on the other side of the river: the Philosophenweg or philosophers’ way, named like that originally by the university students as a result of the romantic and inspirational atmosphere floating all around it. Less crowded than the castle, the philosopher’s way is a perfect spot to stop by, take a beer and admire the scenery right from the other side of the city, especially at night, when the tourists are gone and only a few locals remain there.When it comes to the Altstadt, you should invest at least one hour to stroll through its picturesque streets filled with Baroque style buildings, going for a walk to the river, and of course crossing the Old Bridge or “Alte Brücke”. If you follow the street where the bridge ends back to the city, after a few meters on your left-hand side you will find a bar called Vetter. This tavern homes the once strongest beer in the world according to the Guinness book of World Records, at 33% of alcohol, and brews some of the best beers to be found in the city.
Last but by no means least, if you decide to go out at night the street one should head to is undoubtedly Untere Straße, where -even if Heidelberg is not the most active city in terms to parties- open pubs will be found every night. In case of any indecision, you should go to Destille, an alternatively decorated pub with music ranging from classical rock to modern indie, and if you are fond of beers (how could one not feel so in Germany?), do not forget to ask for their Kellerbier or “unfiltered beer”.
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Heidelberg, Germany: Simple ways to save on your trip
With a hilltop castle, charming old town and historic university — complete with a “prison” for misbehaving students, in use until 1914 — Heidelberg, Germany is truly the storybook European town of every tourist’s dreams.
Unfortunately, the adorable town is also the most expensive tourist destination in Germany, even beating out the notoriously pricey Munich. To make sure this lovely city doesn’t take you from prince to pauper, we’ve gathered a few of our best tips for saving on your visit.
Simple Budget Travel Tips for Heidelberg, Germany
Getting around town
By foot
Obviously walking is always the cheapest option. Since Heidelberg, Germany is a small city, it also easily walkable. So slip on a pair of comfortable shoes and stretch your legs while you take in the “real” Disneyland flair of the place.
Take cheap rides around town on the VRN nextbike. Photo: pilot_michael
By bike
Like many cities in Europe, Heidelberg, Germany is a very bike-friendly town, and cycling around is a great way to get to know the city while also squeezing in a healthy bit of exercise. VRNnextbike, a bicycle rental tied to the public transportation system, offers day rentals for €9 once you register (free of charge) on their site. Shorter rides are available, too, from the cheapo rate of €1 per 30 minutes.
There are also several bike rental shops throughout the city, with prices ranging between €12 to €15 for a day rental of a city bike with a cute little basket.
By car
If you’ve come by car, whatever you do, don’t expect to drive your way around the old town. Parking is both hard to find and extremely expensive. A better choice, budget-wise, is to drop your things off at the hotel and then park outside the city center, taking the bus or train back into town.
The HeidebergCARD covers public transit. Photo: byte
Save with the HeidelbergCARD
If you’re not in the mood for any extra sportiness or plan to venture outside the city, you should definitely consider picking up HeidelbergCARD. The card can be purchased as a 1- to 4-day pass (from €17 to €21) and covers your rides on all buses, trams and certain trains within the greater Heidelberg area. It is also available as a family pass (€40 for 2 adults and 3 children up to 16).
Aside from transit, the card also grants you special discounts on many guided tours, museum entrance fees, selected restaurants, as well as other perks.
Deep thoughts and postcard views along the Philosophenweg. Photo: Ashley Van Haeften
Free thinking along the Philosophenweg
Luckily, one of the most spectacular things to do in Heidelberg, Germany is also absolutely free of charge. The Philosophenweg (Philosopher’s Walk) is a path through the vineyards once cherished by Romantic German poets, artists and philosophers for its beauty and solitude.
You can still follow the path where these learned souls once tread — now complete with gardens and informational plaques. Along the way, you’ll be rewarded for your efforts with gorgeous views over the Neckar river, Old Town and Heidelberg castle.
If you’re in the mood for a longer trek, you can venture further up Heiligenberg (the mountain) and check out the ruins there, including an 11th-century monastery and the remnants of a 4th-century Celtic hill fort.
Budget places to stay in Heidelberg, Germany
With so many tourists heading to Heidelberg, Germany, hotel rooms don’t usually come at bargain rates. However, there are a handful of budget-friendly places to stay, although many of them are outside the city center. Here are a few favorites:
The Zum Ritter St. Georg is located smack in the city center.
Near the city center
LOTTE A comfortable hostel near most of Heidelberg’s main sites. Dorms, double and family rooms range in price from €26 to €70 a night.
Steffi’s Hostel Heidelberg Hostel close to the main train stations. Prices range from €18 per person (10-bed dorm) to €45 (double room for one person). Family rooms available.
Hotel Zum Ritter St. Georg
Located in the Altstadt along the famous pedestrian shopping strip, the St. Georg is a four-star hotel in a historic building, offering 37 very comfortable rooms that sometimes come down into surprisingly cheapo-friendly territory. Our searches brought up rooms during the summer for €110.
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The darling little Hotel Scheid.
Outside the city center
Hotel ISG Located in the suburb Boxberg, Hotel ISG is a friendly budget hotel that features some trendy Bauhaus design touches. Prices for a double room range between €96 – €160, depending on the room and season.
Hotel Restaurant Schied A nice, quiet hotel located on a hillside in the suburb of Schriesheim. (Note that the hotel is a 30-minute walk up from the tram stop Schriesheim Bahnhof, so the place might not ideal if you plan on hitting the pubs until the wee hours of the morning!) Prices range between €67 for a single room to €112 for a four-bed room.
Ja, bitte. Eggs, bratkartoffeln and Käsespätzle at Brauhaus Vetter. Photo: pie4dan
Shopping, eating and drinking tips
Avoid tourist traps
If you’re hankering for a dirndl or black forest cuckoo clock to bring to the folks back home, whatever you do, don’t buy them on Hauptstraße in the Old Town — everything there is overpriced and sure to be stamped somewhere with “Made in China.” You’ll have better luck finding that unforgettable souvenir if you venture off the beaten path to one the little side streets to the right and left of the main strip.
Do-it-yourself BBQ
In the summer, you should definitely consider having a little impromptu BBQ along the banks of the Neckar river. You can buy a cheap disposable grill at the hardware store Bauhaus, located at Kurfürsten-Anlage 11, just south of Bismarckplatz. From there, it’s an easy walk to Neckarwiese (Neckar meadow) on the northern bank of the river where you can set up the grill. Grill up those sausages and pop open a brewski while mingling with locals.
Everybody’s welcome at the student canteen
Another great tip is the Mensa in Marstallhof (Marstallhof 3), the most beautiful university canteen in Germany, replete with a beer garden! The Mensa is open to the public until 11 p.m., and the bar, which boasts the cheapest beer prices in the city, is open until midnight.
And if you’d like to see where the local students get their groove on, check out Untere Strasse, a street that runs parallel to Hauptstrasse and the river. The street is pack with bars and pubs frequented by the university crowd, including Destille, a funky, authentic pub complete with a fake tree in the middle of the bar.
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[2018-09-15T13:44:06Z] olso6229: Who is doing the workshop with Pablo?
[2018-09-16T15:13:47Z] olso6229: Also just saw the workshop with Pablo is actually on Friday, not during our meeting time on Thursday.
[2018-09-16T15:14:26Z] olso6229: Does that affect anyone else? I can’t go if it’s on Friday during that time, if someone else wants to take my spot. :white_check_mark:
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Visit The Japanese House - Barbican Blog
http://blog.barbican.org.uk/2017/06/visit-the-japanese-house-google-street-view/
[2018-09-17T06:44:33Z] mahla008: Just a link to a virtual tour of the Moriyama House, it's alot more complex and interesting than the movie showed. I have more articles and photos for anyone who's interested in seeing more
[2018-09-17T17:11:30Z] olso6229:
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Apply for a Campus Climate Micro-grant!
https://campus-climate.umn.edu/content/apply-campus-climate-micro-grant-1
[2018-09-18T19:51:33Z] mahla008:
[2018-09-18T19:51:50Z] mahla008: MINNCOR revenue in 2009
[2018-09-18T19:54:17Z] mahla008:
[2018-09-18T19:56:40Z] mahla008: 22 million
[2018-09-19T00:23:51Z] watso595: Is everyone (or a majority) able to meet Thursday before class? I feel it could be a good idea to talk about our edits to the guide in person and thought that might be the best option for time based on last week.
[2018-09-19T00:25:08Z] watso595: Also, should we have a way of marking those that have/have not been edited since class today? Maybe your initials/time that you edited in parentheses at the end of each point?
[2018-09-19T00:25:21Z] watso595: I’m open to other ideas too, just thought that could be helpful
[2018-09-19T01:53:46Z] karle029: when/where?
[2018-09-19T02:08:53Z] watso595: We could meet in studio maybe like an hour before class?
[2018-09-19T02:25:54Z] olso6229: I like that and im open to meeting anywhere
[2018-09-19T04:38:38Z] bialo011: Sounds good to me!
[2018-09-19T05:45:07Z] batzl015: I probably can’t make it before class, but I will try my best to condense and edit the guide tomorrow. I will note what I edited and when I did it.
[2018-09-19T15:04:27Z] schra470: I can be there before class as well!
[2018-09-19T15:05:44Z] mahla008: So studio an hour before?
[2018-09-19T16:09:54Z] watso595: Yeah let’s plan on that for those that can make it
[2018-09-19T17:14:34Z] rumbe003: Yoooo so Matt wanted me and Colton to spearhead a movement of changing the manifesto to be more "question based" if that makes sense
Instead of giving statements that work as solutions, let's use questions in the same way that we use design, to push boundaries, create problems, and push ourselves to think further and be more provocative
[2018-09-19T17:15:34Z] mahla008: So like, what is love?
[2018-09-19T17:16:09Z] rumbe003: Yeah something like that, or "How will we feel love?"
[2018-09-19T17:16:17Z] mahla008: Oooo
[2018-09-19T17:16:21Z] rumbe003: Questions with a slightly more specific scope
[2018-09-19T17:16:22Z] mahla008: I like that
[2018-09-19T17:16:23Z] rumbe003: if that makes sense
[2018-09-19T17:16:26Z] mahla008: Ye
[2018-09-19T17:17:08Z] rumbe003: Matt was really about it, he liked the idea of posing questions now, and potentially answering them later in the semester with our work
[2018-09-19T17:19:11Z] bialo011: Honestly not crazy about that
[2018-09-19T17:19:31Z] mahla008: That sounds better than trying to have a set of definitives without actually experiencing wecolab as a whole
[2018-09-19T17:20:39Z] batzl015: Yeah, I mean it’s a different structure so that could be interesting, but it seems like with questions as the structure, it gets really simple and bony provocative
[2018-09-19T17:20:47Z] batzl015: Like it doesn’t seem like anything new
[2018-09-19T17:21:08Z] rumbe003: Yeah idk man haha I'm just communicating what Matt was excited about and wanted me to do
[2018-09-19T17:21:34Z] batzl015: Cause we can ask questions all day, but making statements that cause you to ask questions seems a lot more powerful
[2018-09-19T17:22:17Z] rumbe003: That's true, but also i feel like statements are already defining the answer to any question we may come across
[2018-09-19T17:22:34Z] rumbe003: I'm down with whatever
[2018-09-19T17:23:10Z] mahla008: We just need to destil and condense our manifesto, maybe doing what we did and just make a statement for each word we want to convey
[2018-09-19T17:23:43Z] rumbe003: What if we do both?? Come up with a statement about love, and follow it up with, "How will we feel love?" Essentially saying "How will we enact the statement we just defined?"
[2018-09-19T17:23:53Z] bialo011: I think we should talk about it tomorrow. Because this is our manifesto too, not just what matt thinks is best.
[2018-09-19T17:24:11Z] rumbe003: ^truuuuuu
[2018-09-19T17:24:18Z] mahla008: But do we want it done tomorrow, cause I think Matt does
[2018-09-19T17:24:39Z] mahla008: Like finish it before class when most of us meet
[2018-09-19T17:25:53Z] rumbe003: We have to find a way to meet Matt straight on with productive resistance ya know?
[2018-09-19T17:26:28Z] bialo011: For sure
[2018-09-19T17:26:40Z] watso595: I think should still edit them as statements like we were planning
[2018-09-19T17:27:01Z] watso595: I agree we can talk about the question stuff tomorrow
[2018-09-19T17:28:16Z] batzl015: I’m prob gonna edit quite a bit today, I’ll keep changes noted in the comments
[2018-09-19T19:01:30Z] batzl015: I just moved every statement of the same category next to each other. I’m going to see if I can condense to eliminate redundancy/condense
[2018-09-19T19:23:15Z] danks010: I'm really up for whatever. On one hand, I think using questions would allow individuals to put there own meaning behind their answers, especially as it pertains to answer the why question behind the point of the manifesto. Although I realize it is our manifesto so I think it needs to revolve around our goals and thus statements might help hold us accountable and solidify our ability to collaborate as one based on a uniform standard. For tomorrow, I don't think we should change what we have in terms of rewriting them in the form of questions. As long as we can condense and form our statements in the right terms, it should work and if we discuss the question idea tomorrow and want to push that concept forward we can.
[2018-09-19T19:23:54Z] danks010: Also, I can try to meet an hour before class. No promises though because I'm not sure how traffic will be. But I can always try!
[2018-09-19T19:24:17Z] batzl015: I’m editing rn if anyone wants to hop in the google doc with me :+1::skin-tone-2:
[2018-09-19T19:24:28Z] batzl015: Feel free to scrub anything I’ve done haha
[2018-09-19T19:24:35Z] batzl015: Just leave comments so we can talk about it
[2018-09-19T19:25:25Z] batzl015: Also it looks like there’s room for 16 statements on one page... We’re currently at 28
[2018-09-19T19:30:44Z] bialo011: I can hop on in a sec
[2018-09-19T20:14:44Z] danks010: I be on in a half hour Oliver! Just finishing up the model for Brad's class.
[2018-09-19T20:15:26Z] batzl015: Cool, Andrew and I have done a lot of editing, but please look through and share opinions. That goes for everyone!!!
[2018-09-19T20:16:25Z] danks010: I'm going to completely change it.....Nah ill proofread it and add anything that needs adding. I'm sure its coming along!
[2018-09-19T20:51:37Z] batzl015: We should probably arrange, delete, and get close to finalizing by the end of today. Tomorrow morning can be for last touches
[2018-09-19T20:53:11Z] danks010: For sure! I'm reading over everything right now to get familiar with some of the changes.
[2018-09-19T21:30:28Z] karle029: was the Destil on purpose
[2018-09-19T21:31:42Z] karle029: have we thought about inviting matt to this slack?
[2018-09-19T21:32:42Z] bialo011: I think he is already
[2018-09-19T21:32:51Z] karle029: also if anyone is interested in researching prison labor and prison censorship historically and today I got some really great leads from Linnea at the archives
[2018-09-19T21:33:06Z] karle029:
[2018-09-19T21:33:13Z] karle029:
[2018-09-19T21:33:42Z] mahla008: Is anyone in rapson?
[2018-09-19T21:34:01Z] mahla008: Me and parker are in studio talking about this if others wanted to join
[2018-09-20T00:45:24Z] olso6229: yes, everyone including Matt is in the Slack channel. His handle is
[2018-09-20T00:47:35Z] olso6229: Has anyone else looked at Boris' work/website/views on art+collaboration/bio on WAM site?
[2018-09-20T00:51:48Z] olso6229:
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Portræt af Boris Oicherman
https://vimeo.com/141645079
[2018-09-20T00:55:45Z] mahla008: He looks so different lol
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Art
http://oicherman.net/boris/art
[2018-09-20T01:29:24Z] olso6229:
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From the Archives: Allan Kaprow on the Legacy of Jackson Pollock, in 1958 -
http://www.artnews.com/2018/02/09/archives-allan-kaprow-legacy-jackson-pollock-1958/
[2018-09-20T01:32:29Z] olso6229:
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Allan Kaprow - How to Make a Happening
https://youtu.be/8iCM-YIjyHE
[2018-09-20T01:54:29Z] olso6229: Here's a PDF transcription of the whole LP:
[2018-09-20T04:04:53Z] mahla008: Hey guys, don't like be mad at me or anything but i've been doing research on MINNCOR and idk if they are really that bad
[2018-09-20T04:49:35Z] mahla008: Like they still bad but like not as bad as I think we were lead to believe
[2018-09-20T12:15:13Z] olso6229: Oh yeah?
[2018-09-20T14:02:08Z] bialo011: how so?
[2018-09-20T14:12:46Z] mahla008: Are we meeting in studio?
[2018-09-20T17:38:27Z] batzl015: theres a mincorfurniture folder
[2018-09-20T17:38:33Z] batzl015: channel*
[2018-09-20T17:45:44Z] feria006: Tales of the traveling bag. To be continued
[2018-09-20T18:27:01Z] krieg087: So I was thinking a lot in class today about research, I re-watched 13th, and then watched a Portuguese film called "How Tasty is my Little Frenchman" that is inadvertently about imprisonment in 1500s colonial Brazil. Would anyone be interested in me creating a channel for research on the history of imprisonment and prison labor?
[2018-09-20T18:27:23Z] bialo011: do it
[2018-09-20T18:42:10Z] olso6229: Yes
[2018-09-20T18:44:06Z] olso6229: i wish my girlfriend was in the room for the first part of our conversation today, we would’ve learned so much about language
[2018-09-20T18:46:40Z] olson175: How so Lee?
[2018-09-20T18:58:12Z] olso6229: she did her undergrad in linguistics with several courses at graduate level during that time, her last 2 or 3 semesters of school were basically thesis
[2018-09-20T18:59:35Z] olson175: cool... would love to know who some of her favorite language thinkers are
[2018-09-20T19:00:00Z] olso6229: not chomsky, i can tell you that much
[2018-09-20T19:02:49Z] olson175: i love chomsky but, not because of his linguistic work
[2018-09-20T19:03:02Z] olson175: I wonder if she has thoughts on Barthes
[2018-09-20T19:07:07Z] olso6229: i will ask tonight. if anyone else has any questions about language, let me know anytime
[2018-09-20T19:08:05Z] krieg087: ^Same here Lee, my sister is currently getting her PHD in Linguistics and I can always ask her any questions as well!
[2018-09-20T19:08:35Z] olso6229: COOOOOOOOL
[2018-09-20T19:11:03Z] olson175: ask her about Barthes and Lakoff. I've watched a couple interesting lectures by Lakoff.
[2018-09-20T19:11:18Z] feria006: Bag makes it through lecture!
[2018-09-20T19:14:02Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-20T19:14:31Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-20T19:14:58Z] olso6229: Bag timelapse video + body art engulfed by bag body
[2018-09-20T19:34:34Z] krieg087: I absolutely will
[2018-09-20T19:43:43Z] olso6229: has anyone looked at the zines in the rapson library
[2018-09-20T19:45:35Z] olso6229: or read ursula le guin's the ones who walk away from omelas
[2018-09-20T19:45:57Z] olso6229: looking at the range of minncor products reminds me of her short story
[2018-09-21T00:47:08Z] santo204: Yee the zines in the library are really cool. Did we figure out if we were using a google drive or a Lightroom to upload media?
[2018-09-21T00:49:24Z] santo204: Or did we want to create a channel on this strictly for videos/photos/ other media
[2018-09-21T01:01:56Z] watso595: I thought we were planning on using Lightroom. I feel like starting a new channel for this might be good so we can share links to Lightroom and keep them in one place?
[2018-09-21T01:02:08Z] watso595: I can start a channel for media
[2018-09-21T01:17:29Z] santo204:
Apparently, Black Mountain College’s flame has been reignited on the same Claud location and has rebranded as School of the Alternative.
[2018-09-21T01:24:05Z] santo204: *campus not Claud
[2018-09-21T18:23:46Z] schra470: Hey guys! So Evan and I spent some time at Wilson library, and upon asking for information on university spending (and what kind of money is going from UMN to Minncor) we were directed to the "Purchasing Services" webpage. Although there were no readily available materials with this information, we contacted the general services via email and asked very politely who we may be able to get in contact with to understand the university's opinion on this matter. Hopefully they get back to me soon with some more information, and maybe a contact to sit down with and ask questions! Ill Keep you all posted :grin:
[2018-09-21T18:25:03Z] olso6229: Cool !!
[2018-09-21T18:26:03Z] kesse046: Here are some interesting resources:
[2018-09-21T18:26:08Z] kesse046: This video was helpful:
It mentioned these topics:
Minncor history:
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Prison Labor: Modern SLAVERY?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7yN52tE5k
Burl Cain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burl_Cain
[2018-09-21T18:27:22Z] mahla008: What a picture
[2018-09-21T18:27:42Z] batzl015: Just got out of the collaboration workshop :sunglasses: this is gonna be cool to do with you all
[2018-09-21T18:32:08Z] mahla008:
[2018-09-21T18:38:43Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-21T18:54:14Z] olso6229: ... none of the librarians at the downtown minneapolis library are cool with us taking a photo
[2018-09-21T18:54:44Z] olso6229: All of them have politely declined
[2018-09-21T18:56:25Z] olso6229: Only library entity we could get a photo with so far
[2018-09-21T18:56:35Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-21T18:57:40Z] olso6229: FINALLY
[2018-09-21T18:57:53Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-22T18:24:03Z] mahla008: Hey has anyone been to the university resuse center this year yet? They might have MINNCOR furinture that we can purchase and own to do stuff with
[2018-09-22T18:26:08Z] watso595: Haley mentioned that too... I haven’t been but I remember talking to some people who found the “dorm chairs” there before I knew they were minncor
[2018-09-22T18:26:45Z] mahla008: Cool well maybe that's a next weekend trip since they only open on saturdays
[2018-09-22T18:27:00Z] watso595: We can also get it for free since we would be using it for university purposes
[2018-09-22T18:27:34Z] mahla008: Ooo ye or unless anyone has time to go to the center with a car today?
[2018-09-22T18:47:14Z] watso595: I've started putting together some of the clips I took on Thursday into a short video. A lot of my videos need some editing in premiere so I think it could be easier if I use the file I've already started but if others are interested in putting that video together we can find a time to meet and work on it!
[2018-09-22T18:48:54Z] watso595: otherwise, if you have videos, could you throw them in the drive?
[2018-09-22T22:20:06Z] danks010: uploading them now Parker! Sorry its taking so long. It's a decent size file
[2018-09-23T00:06:41Z] danks010:
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Bag of Air Performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z048OrJ57so&feature=youtu.be
[2018-09-23T00:07:02Z] danks010: This video has not been edited, so it is essentially the raw content
[2018-09-23T23:57:42Z] karle029: yes!
[2018-09-24T06:12:16Z] santo204: Parker, I’d be interrelated in meeting up this week & working on the film
[2018-09-24T15:37:03Z] schra470: A reply to my email to Purchasing Services about Minncor! Some good information in here!
[2018-09-24T15:38:51Z] batzl015: Good info find! could you post the spreadsheet as an attachment?
[2018-09-24T15:38:54Z] schra470: And here is the spreadsheet that details the amounts spent!
[2018-09-24T15:41:34Z] batzl015: cool! thanks!
[2018-09-24T17:17:19Z] rumbe003:
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13TH | Official Trailer [HD] | Netflix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V66F3WU2CKk
[2018-09-24T17:17:29Z] rumbe003: If anyone hasn't watched this yet, I would highly recommend doing so
[2018-09-24T17:17:57Z] rumbe003: Could help us gain some perspective and relate more closely to some of the stuff we'll be working on
[2018-09-24T20:01:42Z] danks010: I remembered that we touched on bell hooks a little bit last week and I found a really interesting book of her that related to Love and how people define, and acknowledge love and how love impacts relationships, both romantically and socially. I'm only a chapter in, but it is a really unique approach that I thought I would share with you. Here's the link for the online version of the book. It can be downloaded as a pdf from the site which is really nice.
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https://www.docdroid.net/goTB7E8/124493278-bell-hooks-all-about-love.pdf
[2018-09-24T20:04:32Z] danks010: She also talks about belonging in her work with regards to connection through love and compassion. She has a book about belonging, which I have attached, as well as a talk on youtube. Both are below and are very helpful in determining were each person belongs in this world. Really inspirational stuff and relates quite a bit to our manifesto. .
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Belonging: A Culture of Place by bell hooks
https://issuu.com/schoolofthedamned/docs/bell-hooks-belonging-a-culture-of-p
bell hooks & john a. powell: Belonging Through Connection (Othering & Belonging Conference 2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sX7fqIU4gQ
[2018-09-24T21:41:08Z] olson175: THX Colton!
[2018-09-24T22:03:21Z] olson175: Do any of you guys speak French?
[2018-09-24T22:14:18Z] karle029: I took three years of french in high school - so i would say very minimally haha
[2018-09-24T22:15:35Z] olson175: Andrew has been looking into Emanuele Coccia. He's mostly a European phenomenon so far but... there are some videos in French...
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Conversation: Emanuele Coccia - Vinciane Despret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGNEJfxAPg
[2018-09-24T22:17:25Z] olson175: Emanuele Coccia makes a couple appearances in the required texts... I hope you guys are digging in to those!
[2018-09-25T18:12:21Z] broad095: has joined the channel
[2018-09-25T18:46:13Z] boris: has joined the channel
[2018-09-25T22:35:18Z] olso6229: swapping my Chuck Close quote out of the zine FYI
[2018-09-25T22:39:44Z] olso6229: edited the wecolab guide doc, good to go
[2018-09-25T22:46:10Z] broad095: Is anyone else in favor of more images for the next edition? I feel like it might be too much text. Thoughts?
[2018-09-25T22:50:58Z] olso6229: Yes
[2018-09-25T22:51:03Z] olso6229: And sketches
[2018-09-25T22:51:17Z] olso6229: Im drawing the interview i did with my mom for the next zine
[2018-09-25T22:51:28Z] olso6229: Comic book / graphic novel style
[2018-09-26T01:01:03Z] renst011: There will definitely be more already from the documentation of last Tuesday and today
[2018-09-26T01:01:07Z] renst011: Plus yes for sure any imagery to support the individual assignments and referential images
[2018-09-26T01:13:37Z] olso6229: do you need any more photos from today’s session? I took a few, but i saw you had taken some too. Let me know
[2018-09-26T02:30:37Z] renst011: Feel free to throw them in the media channel! I won't know for sure until I start in on the next newsletter but the more pics the better
[2018-09-26T13:29:25Z] olso6229: asked my partner, Calli, what she thought about Barthes and Lakoff. She said "they're outside my specialization so i don't know enough about their theories to really make a statement about them. but i do prefer lakoffs theory of generative semantics to chomskys generative syntax. basically, we have to take semantics and meaning into account in sentence construction. chomsky syntax treats the mind and language as highly logical and mathematical. however, humans don't operate on that alone. communication relies on meaning, memory, and intention, which must be accounted for when discussing linguistics."
[2018-09-26T15:44:13Z] olso6229: and then i asked her about something she says about language often, that language is referential. "well when i say its referential, i'm talking about the fact that we can talk about the world around us. things and experiences. i believe its universal. remember the isolated mind conversation? a mind outside of any kind of environment would still have the capacity to refer to itself, its experience, and its functioning."
[2018-09-26T15:45:32Z] fasbe023: has joined the channel
[2018-09-26T15:45:32Z] olso6229: i'm curious to hear how this overlaps/aligns/conflicts? with color science/perception?
[2018-09-26T16:54:37Z] boris: Color is an extremely interesting case study of language. I believe I mentioned the book "Through the Language Glass"- it's about that. It's very related to Lakoff and Johnson's metaphor theory, and how metaphors are not just language constructs but creators of realities. Remind me next time in class, I'll tell more
[2018-09-26T21:18:37Z] mahla008:
[2018-09-26T21:20:06Z] olso6229: becomes one with paper
[2018-09-26T21:21:17Z] olso6229: becomes one with minerals
[2018-09-26T22:13:28Z] olso6229: Everyone needs to go to the library in the walker art center
[2018-09-26T22:34:57Z] danks010: Here are a few photos from and I from our trip at the Walker Art Center Library. Found tons of resources on many of the people we talked about, as well as some useful prison and manifesto resources as well.
[2018-09-26T22:35:14Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:18Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:22Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:25Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:28Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:33Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:38Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:42Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:45Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:35:49Z] danks010:
[2018-09-26T22:36:14Z] danks010: Tons of stuff on john cage that could be useful for your interview with him!
[2018-09-26T22:38:33Z] feria006: HAPPY BIRTHDAY LEE!
[2018-09-26T22:39:47Z] olson175: NOW I'M HAPPY
[2018-09-26T22:42:11Z] olso6229: Thanks for the birthday love
[2018-09-26T22:43:44Z] olso6229: deep in this black mt college tome. Theres a photo in there of john cage, merce cunnigham, josef albers together
[2018-09-26T22:44:39Z] olso6229: explores a collection of UMN installation artwork over the years
[2018-09-26T22:45:51Z] olso6229: Finding a potential path through Kaleidoscope magazine as a way for the zine
[2018-09-26T22:46:16Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-26T22:46:44Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-26T22:48:08Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-26T22:48:20Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-26T22:48:49Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-26T23:09:59Z] olson175: Fun fact you guys! I designed Kaleidoscope Magazine's booth at the NADA Art Fair in NYC a few years ago!
[2018-09-26T23:24:10Z] karle029: Do you have a copy?
[2018-09-26T23:26:19Z] karle029: Some of the topics we've been talking about in class are also being discussed in my sustainability class--for the first time that I've been aware of.
[2018-09-26T23:27:04Z] karle029: If anyone is interested in reading the entire article (3 pages)
[2018-09-27T00:00:52Z] olso6229: then it isnt coincidence that we gravitate to kaleidoscope
[2018-09-27T01:14:14Z] rumbe003: Lots of relevant theories and ideas brought forward by artist Joseph Kosuth here that could definitely be applied to our work and it's "meaning" and how we will construct that meaning
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ARTISTS TALK #4: JOSEPH KOSUTH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hpfkIPTRBo
[2018-09-27T01:16:04Z] olso6229: anything helpful that we should bring when you teach us the pablo workshop?
[2018-09-27T01:17:19Z] olson175: Hey! Didn't I tell one of you guys to look into Joseph Kosuth and his chair piece? Who was that?
[2018-09-27T01:22:50Z] rumbe003: Haha it was me Matt
[2018-09-27T01:23:20Z] rumbe003: Well at least you told me to look into Joseph Kosuth, you never said anything specific about a chair piece, so maybe someone else as well
[2018-09-27T01:23:47Z] rumbe003: just a level of high energy and eagerness haha as cheesy as that sounds
[2018-09-27T17:47:17Z] olso6229: Anyone else want how can i help by ram dass? i just got another copy
[2018-09-27T17:53:51Z] danks010: Perhaps...Can you bring it to climate change and I'll take a peek at it!
[2018-09-27T17:54:02Z] olso6229: Yes
[2018-09-27T17:54:23Z] danks010: Alright! Coming in clutch....
[2018-09-27T17:54:29Z] olso6229: I think Public Functionary in NE minneapolis could be a guide for us, or something to draw from
[2018-09-27T17:54:32Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-27T17:55:24Z] olso6229: upcoming exhibits:
[2018-09-27T17:55:25Z] olso6229:
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— Public Functionary
https://publicfunctionary.org/calendar/racingmagpie
[2018-09-27T17:56:05Z] olso6229:
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— Public Functionary
https://publicfunctionary.org/calendar/conversation-matrix
[2018-09-27T18:13:17Z] olso6229: the new Moon Palace Books on Minnehaha is also very spicy right now
[2018-09-27T18:14:13Z] olso6229:
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Moon Palace Books
https://moonpalacebooks.com/?q=h.calevents
[2018-09-27T18:15:17Z] olso6229: They do a lot of readings/events with trans/gay/bi/etc authors. I don't know how to describe the sensation of being there but it's unlike any other bookstore I've been to
[2018-09-27T18:20:03Z] olso6229: also rad metal/noise concerts hahaha
[2018-09-27T19:26:46Z] olso6229:
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carsten höller: soma
https://www.designboom.com/art/carsten-holler-soma/
[2018-09-27T20:08:28Z] olso6229: revisiting my notes from allan kaprow's 1958 essay "the legacy of jackson pollock", this bit seemed relevant to our discussion about objects today
[2018-09-27T20:08:47Z] olso6229: maybe this can help guide us?
[2018-09-27T20:08:57Z] olso6229: At any rate, for now, we may consider that, except for rare instances, Western art tends to need many more indirections in achieving itself, placing more or less equal emphasis upon “things” and the relations between them. The crudeness of Jackson Pollock is not, therefore, uncouth or designed as such; it is manifestly frank and uncultivated, unsullied by training, trade secrets, finesse—a directness which the European artists he liked hoped for and partially succeeded in, but which he never had to strive after because he had it by nature. This by itself would be enough to teach us something.
It does. Pollock, as I see him, left us at the point where we must become preoccupied with and even dazzled by the space and objects of our everyday life, either our bodies, clothes, rooms, or, if need be, the vastness of Forty-Second Street. Not satisfied with the suggestion through paint of our other senses, we shall utilize the specific substances of sigh, sound, movements, people, odors, touch. Objects of every sort are materials for the new art: paint, chairs, food, electric and neon lights, smoke, water, old socks, a dog, movies, a thousand other things which will be discovered by the present generation of artists. Not only will these bold creators show us, as if for the first time, the world we have always had about us, but ignored, but they will disclose entirely unheard of happenings and events, found in garbage cans, police files, hotel lobbies, seen in store windows and on the streets, and sensed in dreams and horrible accidents. An odor of crushed strawberries, a letter from a friend or a billboard selling Draino; three taps on the front door, a scratch, a sigh or a voice lecturing endlessly, a blinding staccato flash, a bowler hat—all will become materials for this new concrete art.
[2018-09-27T20:18:26Z] olso6229: another forthcoming book from Emanuele Coccia in a couple months
[2018-09-27T20:18:30Z] olso6229:
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The Transitory Museum
https://www.wiley.com/en-ai/The+Transitory+Museum-p-9781509533077
[2018-09-27T20:18:44Z] olso6229: "Stemming from a case study of this genre-defining entity, this first philosophical inquiry into a store aims to shed a new light on how categories that have governed our modern social, economic, political and individual lives, such as commerce, art, fashion, museum, are being redefined today. It calls on us to re-engage with what we long considered to be separate: transcendence and immanence, human beings and their objects."
[2018-09-27T20:27:39Z] olso6229: Lil B was at my friend's house recently
[2018-09-27T20:29:15Z] olso6229: Emanuele Coccia interviewed about one of his new books this year (The Life of Plants: A Metaphysics of Melange), perspectives on biology/botany/chemistry here
[2018-09-27T20:29:17Z] olso6229: "Plants embody life’s continuity, not its separation into distinct realms."
[2018-09-27T20:29:31Z] olso6229: "The interesting thing is, the transformation of the atmosphere into an oxygenated atmosphere was a byproduct of plant metabolism. In fact, the primary function of photosynthesis is not the production of oxygen but the storage of solar energy in mass. The byproduct of that process is the production of oxygen."
[2018-09-27T20:29:57Z] olso6229: :seedling::seedling::seedling:
[2018-09-27T20:35:34Z] olso6229: I wanted to copy & paste every sentence from this interview
[2018-09-27T20:35:37Z] olso6229:
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Emanuele Coccia - purple MAGAZINE
http://purple.fr/magazine/purple-25yrs-anniv-issue-28/emanuele-coccia/
[2018-09-27T20:35:56Z] olso6229: This is powerful and I'm pre-ordering the book now
[2018-09-27T21:02:05Z] batzl015: Thanks for putting this interview up! I should get a little reading in before I interview my mom on the subject.
[2018-09-28T03:34:06Z] olso6229: EVERYONE WE NEED TO GO TO THIS
[2018-09-28T03:34:08Z] olso6229:
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Beyond Bars: A Public Reading - October 22, 2016, 7:00pm
https://www.mnprisonwriting.org/mpww-public-reading.html
[2018-09-28T03:34:29Z] olso6229: THIS IS CRITICAL
[2018-09-28T03:34:43Z] mahla008: #critical
[2018-09-28T03:43:12Z] olso6229: please someone else go to this tomorrow, im in a studio during this time so i cant
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We Are All Criminals | Share Your Story
https://wam.umn.edu/calendar/we-are-all-criminals-share-your-story/
[2018-09-28T04:04:47Z] batzl015: Just interviewed my mom (Janet Batzli) who teaches biology and ecology at the University of Wisconsin about Emanuele Coccia and the idea of oxygen as a byproduct. In short, we ended up talking about the larger systems involving plants and how nearly every part of the human body is directly related to plant processes. My mom’s dissertation research and expertise is in the process of nitrogen fixation which, similarly to Coccia’s book, involves plant byproducts and a symbiosis of microbes and plants existing while creating an environment for life to continue and flourish. Very cool in reference to connectedness.
[2018-09-28T04:05:22Z] batzl015: I have a link to explain nitrogen fixation a little better.
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nitrogen-fixing bacteria | Definition & Types
https://www.britannica.com/science/nitrogen-fixing-bacteria
[2018-09-28T04:07:09Z] olso6229: !!!
[2018-09-28T04:07:21Z] olso6229: I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE FULL INTERVIEW
[2018-09-28T04:08:22Z] olso6229: now interview emanuele coccia about your mom's ideas
[2018-09-28T04:09:04Z] watso595: Just read an interesting article for another class but I think there's a connection there. Something about trusting that the thing will take you somewhere and the importance of letting go to (in this case formal) prescriptions
[2018-09-28T04:09:06Z] watso595:
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Iceland students turn willow branches into materials range
https://www.dezeen.com/2016/03/18/iceland-academy-arts-product-design-students-willow-project-materials-range-designmarch-2016/
[2018-09-28T20:57:23Z] kesse046: Here's the thing I gave you guys yesterday. I hope this helps!
[2018-09-28T21:41:06Z] watso595: Hey guys, after you all send in your library selfies, come to studio for the BDA student association movie night at 7, we’ll have veggie chili!
[2018-09-28T22:32:58Z] olson175: Thanks for sharing these Evan. They aren't the only MINNCOR products tho. There are others as well. I discussed one with Brendan today that is a library cubicle/study carrel table that two people sit at. Sorta reminds me of when prisoners have visitors...? Something interesting about those forms...?
[2018-09-28T22:33:18Z] olson175:
[2018-09-29T04:22:32Z] rumbe003:
[2018-09-29T04:22:55Z] rumbe003: “I think collaboration is a prescription
or device that keeps one from getting hung up on a strong
single intention that blinds,” Rauschenberg reflected in
1987. “Every individual that you add to a project will result
in ten times as many new possibilities.”
[2018-09-29T04:23:32Z] rumbe003: This will tie into the workshop on Tuesday, more people = more possibilities
[2018-09-29T04:45:51Z] rumbe003: According to this article, prison labor has been exploited in the US for a lonnngggg time. In 1885(!!!!), prison industries produced 24.2 million dollars worth of products. That number had already skyrocketed up to 73.8 million dollars worth of products by 1923, and now it's valued at over 2 BILLION dollars worth of products a year. In 2001 it was valued at 1.8 billion, and it's already gone up.
[2018-09-29T11:44:22Z] olso6229: We should do a group outing before winter, maybe can can wonderland? Other ideas?
[2018-09-29T12:28:46Z] olso6229:
[2018-09-29T12:29:27Z] olso6229:
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PREVIEW Foam Magazine #51, Seer/Believer
https://issuu.com/foam-magazine/docs/41-004_fm51_01_reduced_pages_issuu_
[2018-09-29T12:44:47Z] olso6229: maybe we can use issuu as a platform to distribute our zine?
[2018-09-29T13:43:08Z] olso6229:
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Rick Owens: Furniture
https://www.moca.org/exhibition/rickowensfurniture
[2018-09-30T14:27:22Z] olso6229: Book arrived today!!
[2018-09-30T15:29:38Z] olson175: I'm a huge fan of Rick Owens! We remade one of his beds for an exhibit at Haus der Kunst in Munich
[2018-09-30T19:28:09Z] olso6229: WOW Ram Dass’ dolphin story at the start of How Can I Help? Also the chapter titled “helping prison”
[2018-09-30T19:28:38Z] olso6229: I have a reverse experience with a baby bird
[2018-09-30T20:17:32Z] karle029: Notes from class last tuesday, add to them if you have anything else to add/we can continue adding to this doc for future classes if that seems valuable
[2018-09-30T20:20:18Z] olso6229: YES thank you
[2018-09-30T21:47:48Z] karle029: I really enjoy a lot of these
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Art - Judd Foundation
https://juddfoundation.org/artist/art/
[2018-10-01T00:36:48Z] douga018: Hey guys, so I just saw a tweet about Washington State releasing prisoners that were convicted of marijuana possession, so I started to look into it more just by googling. I found a couple of different articles and a lot of them mention the war on drugs, a clear racial bias, and mass incarceration. I thought it related a lot to what we have talked about in class, here is a link to one of the articles. Its a nice short read, but relevant to our class discussions.
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Seattle To Become Latest City To Erase Past Marijuana Convictions
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/seattle-past-marijuana-convictions_us_5a7c661be4b044b3821a2a9f
[2018-10-01T01:45:52Z] olso6229: hey sasha, check these out, i dont know why your judd foundation link reminded me of this
[2018-10-01T01:45:54Z] olso6229:
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The Uncomfortable
https://www.theuncomfortable.com/
[2018-10-01T01:48:21Z] karle029: ooo fun thank you
[2018-10-01T02:33:18Z] olso6229:
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Library Record Detail
https://midwayart.org/library/record/9958/
[2018-10-01T02:38:56Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-01T02:48:33Z] watso595: Abe and I have started talking about noise music and I found a list of some of the music that was in Moriyama San if anyone is interested in listening
[2018-10-01T02:48:34Z] watso595:
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The Records of Yasuo Moriyama - Barbican Blog
http://blog.barbican.org.uk/2017/03/the-records-of-yasuo-moriyama/
[2018-10-01T02:52:30Z] olso6229: Merzbow's Pulse Demon is the obligatory album I have to mention
[2018-10-01T02:52:31Z] olso6229:
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Merzbow - Pulse Demon (Full Album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguPH0XBxdw
[2018-10-01T02:59:24Z] olso6229: soooooo we're all going to that moriyama gallery in london right???
[2018-10-01T02:59:27Z] olso6229: its open until june 23
[2018-10-01T02:59:35Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-01T02:59:48Z] mahla008: Hell ya
[2018-10-01T14:16:51Z] olso6229: about to pick up this book
[2018-10-01T14:16:52Z] olso6229:
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Stories of Almost Everyone - Hammer Museum
https://hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2018/stories-of-almost-everyone/
[2018-10-01T16:43:40Z] olso6229: ram dass is still alive
[2018-10-01T16:43:45Z] olso6229: we should connect with him
[2018-10-01T16:44:19Z] olso6229: im calling it right now, when he dies someone is going to make a biopic and cast jaoquin phoenix as him
[2018-10-01T17:09:05Z] olso6229: this comes out tomorrow:
[2018-10-01T20:15:04Z] batzl015: IMPORTANT STUFF RIGHT HERE!!!! Sam and I are leading a workshop tomorrow for the class, it’s going to be super fun, but we’d like to communicate the following message in preparation for tomorrow morning.
[2018-10-01T20:16:05Z] batzl015: Internalize this message and do what you will with it: Think of something you’re an expert on, or passionate about, and come prepared to give an individual performance on it first thing tomorrow morning. Bring any materials/objects that you think may enhance your performances. Be creative, that is all.
[2018-10-01T21:12:04Z] mahla008: Me and Parker getting helped out by a lovely wood librarian
[2018-10-01T23:16:24Z] mahla008: I found 9 landscape manifesto books in the rapson trash just now
[2018-10-01T23:18:11Z] watso595: Whaaaat no
[2018-10-01T23:18:25Z] mahla008: come over here
[2018-10-01T23:20:18Z] mahla008: its about prison labor and using people for gain i.e. blood diamonds
[2018-10-01T23:20:26Z] mahla008: its so cool
[2018-10-01T23:21:59Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-01T23:22:28Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-01T23:23:55Z] mahla008: i'll bring them tomorrow so people who want to read them can get them after class
[2018-10-01T23:44:40Z] olso6229: Why were these in the trash???? :fearful::scream:
[2018-10-01T23:45:06Z] batzl015: those are COOL
[2018-10-01T23:50:10Z] mahla008: Idk I love them, I think Jacob Manz threw them out they were in a box with his name on it
[2018-10-02T02:58:52Z] rumbe003: IMPORTANT STUFF RIGHT HERE!!!! Oliver and I are leading a workshop tomorrow for the class, it’s going to be super fun, but we’d like to communicate the following message in preparation for tomorrow morning.
Internalize this message and do what you will with it: Think of something you’re an expert on, or passionate about, and come prepared to give an individual performance on it first thing tomorrow morning. Bring any materials/objects that you think may enhance your performances. Be creative, that is all.
[2018-10-02T02:58:57Z] rumbe003: Reposting so everyone sees it
[2018-10-02T05:09:07Z] danks010: I realize everyone has been researching different topics and different types of media with regards to finding information pertaining to prisons, prison labor, etc. With that being said, I decided to take a step out of the text aspect to see how forms can influence multiply people. Rather than continuing to flood the slack with readings and articles I have researched, I decided to look at a form of media that influences almost everyone. Thus, I looked into researching music about prison and how artists can evoke meaning and spread ideas about prison and prison labor. I created a document that starts to pile a list of songs and lyrics about prison songs, including links to the songs for those who have not heard some of them. For me, I think it was really beneficial to step back out of the book and see how prisons and prison labor is portrayed in other fields. Here is the link to the document, however if it does not work, I can share the google docs with everyone.
[2018-10-03T03:40:32Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-03T03:40:33Z] mahla008: Have you guys seen this?
[2018-10-03T03:40:41Z] mahla008: Rapson hall second floor
[2018-10-03T03:41:00Z] mahla008: Someone else is making zines
[2018-10-03T03:41:02Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-03T03:44:16Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-03T03:44:28Z] mahla008: Nothing too exciting but I got a couple if sweet buttons
[2018-10-03T03:44:50Z] mahla008: Maybe these people are someone to talk to
[2018-10-03T12:02:30Z] olso6229: thanks again for the landscape manifesto books, just read the manifesto on the inside covers
[2018-10-03T12:02:41Z] olso6229: I love the way its formatted
[2018-10-03T12:03:06Z] olso6229: Maybe something we can draw from if/when we reshape our wecolab manifesto later on?
[2018-10-03T12:25:43Z] olso6229: What do you all think of the undermining empire manifesto? I dont know how many people got a copy of it but we can share next time
[2018-10-03T12:27:13Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-03T12:27:37Z] olso6229: I feel like this one transcends the Canadian focus of the publication and bleeds over into what we’re doing
[2018-10-03T12:30:12Z] olso6229: Is there some way we can utilize voice with Danny’s project? Something that augments the experience? Like the idea we had to have a video loop projected on a wall/walls?
[2018-10-03T12:30:56Z] olso6229: How do you feel about that? Does the medium of voice excite you?
[2018-10-03T18:51:07Z] olso6229: Anyone else interested in going to this event? It's in Folwell Hall on Monday, November 5th at 4pm
[2018-10-03T18:54:26Z] olso6229: The title of the event itself seems compelling enough in relation to what we're doing. There's no event abstract up yet but I'll keep my eye on this one
[2018-10-03T19:50:39Z] olso6229: what did midway contemporary look like when you went? The gallery space only has paintings on one wall right now
[2018-10-03T19:50:54Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-03T19:51:09Z] batzl015: Yep!
[2018-10-03T19:51:43Z] batzl015: Also, I just put video of parts of the workshop on the drive
[2018-10-03T19:55:00Z] batzl015: Voice sounds really cool. I think t could be really cool for what we’re doing :+1::skin-tone-2:
[2018-10-03T20:00:50Z] mahla008: Insane book at Midway
[2018-10-03T20:01:09Z] mahla008: About prisoner abuse
[2018-10-03T21:44:17Z] olso6229: Whats going on with the prison playlist google doc? Can we make that a collaborative spotify playlist?
[2018-10-03T22:40:03Z] danks010: Ya that was mine Lee?
[2018-10-03T22:40:44Z] danks010: its suppose to be a collaborative playlist whereas anyone can add music that is prison related, maybe evokes ideas about prisons, etc.
[2018-10-03T22:41:51Z] olso6229: Is there a spotify set up? Or is it only a google doc right now?
[2018-10-03T22:43:21Z] danks010: Right now its just a google doc to document the songs, artists, and then I threw in some lyrics because I think it's important to understand the words and messages they are trying to evoke and or persuade others
[2018-10-03T22:48:28Z] danks010:
[2018-10-03T22:49:12Z] danks010:
[2018-10-03T22:49:30Z] danks010:
[2018-10-03T22:49:52Z] danks010:
[2018-10-03T22:50:17Z] olso6229: I have a different perspective on Yves Klein and Judo after reading through that book
[2018-10-03T22:50:48Z] olso6229: Tools of Disobedience was so simple but powerful
[2018-10-03T22:50:53Z] danks010: Some Lygia Clark Books at the Midway Contemporary Library! Good stuff there as well.
[2018-10-04T01:13:43Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-04T01:13:57Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-04T14:03:01Z] olson175:
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Pennsylvania Prisons Hired A Private Company To Intercept And Store Prisoners’ Mail
https://theappeal.org/pennsylvania-prisons-hired-a-private-company-to-intercept-and-store-prisoners-mail/
[2018-10-04T14:14:53Z] olso6229: What the f******k
[2018-10-04T14:14:56Z] olso6229: Hold on
[2018-10-04T14:22:49Z] olso6229: All mail to prisons in Pennsylvania gets routed through a private company in Florida
[2018-10-04T14:23:23Z] olso6229: The mail is scanned into a database, a photocopy is made and sent to the prison, and the original mail is destroyed
[2018-10-04T14:23:40Z] olso6229: "The DOC has also banned prisoners from receiving books from vendors—including book donation organizations like Books Through Bars. Instead, prisoners will have the option of paying for ebooks via tablets that cost over $147 each."
[2018-10-04T14:23:46Z] olso6229: >tablets that cost over $147 each
[2018-10-04T14:23:48Z] olso6229: HA
[2018-10-04T14:26:33Z] olso6229: The reason for this happening sounds like it was orchestrated by the Pennsylvania DOC
[2018-10-04T14:28:58Z] olso6229: “An incarcerated person may not want a private company to know about them and their family’s medical problems. They may not want a private company to know about grievances that they have."
[2018-10-04T14:29:16Z] olso6229: From Zeke Caliguiri we already know healthcare + medical access in prisons is a nightmare
[2018-10-04T14:40:55Z] olso6229: Oh man,
“This new policy is already having a chilling effect on how lawyers are communicating with their clients. Because legal mail is being opened and copied, attorney-client privilege is basically being ignored”
[2018-10-04T16:32:56Z] olso6229: Phillip Zimbardo
[2018-10-04T17:26:49Z] bialo011: ^his prison experiment was actually deeply flawed and widely regarded as being heavily biased. He basically set it up in a way where the guards where influenced to be more aggressive
[2018-10-04T17:42:46Z] olso6229: totally
[2018-10-04T17:43:47Z] olso6229: they definitely highlight that bias in him in the stanford prison experiment movie
[2018-10-04T17:45:27Z] olso6229: i think that incident could be valuable for us to look at, because we (maybe) are going to impact the space in a way where we want to encourage or suggest certain reactions (emotions, watcher/watched psychology shift, etc)
[2018-10-04T18:00:21Z] olso6229: WAIT, WOW
[2018-10-04T18:01:00Z] olso6229: A sign to push our video ideas ahead
[2018-10-04T18:01:34Z] olso6229: I had left off just before this paragraph in the Pennsylvania DOC article
[2018-10-04T18:01:36Z] olso6229: “Staff no longer are required to inspect each page for the presence of contraband, significantly reducing the time that staff handle or view privileged documents and allowing the inmate to receive the mail sooner. Finally, under the revised procedure, the entire transaction is recorded by video.”
[2018-10-04T18:02:08Z] olso6229: meta-recording
[2018-10-04T18:02:16Z] olso6229: i wonder if they have guards watching at the same time
[2018-10-04T18:02:17Z] danks010: My other idea came to me! I was thinking about the idea of freedom. We talked a lot about how prisoners are affected, what they lose, and I was thinking a lot about the idea of privacy or lack of privacy in prison. I think we often forget that privacy is a freedom and so I was curious of relating losing this privacy to the idea about observation. I'm not sure where I am headed with this idea, but just something I was thinking about......
[2018-10-04T18:13:34Z] danks010: Hey Matt, what was that video called with the prisoners chopping wood? It's been a while since I have seen it...I wanted to refresh my memory!
[2018-10-04T18:18:54Z] olso6229: take a look in today, are we set on the quotes? i think we need a better balance between men and women
[2018-10-04T18:19:50Z] olso6229: there are three quotes from that seems odd to me
[2018-10-04T18:19:58Z] renst011: The newsletter is already sent in for print but I added all of the quotes that were up before class today!
[2018-10-04T18:22:05Z] olso6229: ahhhh got it
[2018-10-04T18:22:57Z] olso6229: but thank you for crafting a wild zine with us!! :heart_eyes::rolled_up_newspaper:
[2018-10-04T18:28:44Z] batzl015: Yeah, I understand that they pertain to the class, but I think we already have Matt quotes in the writing he did for the first newsletter
[2018-10-04T18:29:03Z] batzl015: I think for the sake of diversity, we can leave those ones out
[2018-10-04T18:40:52Z] olso6229: Last section of the Pennsylvania DOC article:
[2018-10-04T18:43:15Z] olso6229: "The policy also bans educational programs and books donation programs. / Books Through Bars, a donation service that has operated in Pennsylvania for over 30 years, is protesting this change as censorship. Through the program, prisoners can request two or three free books every three months. / A “million books are published a year. The DOC is saying they’ll offer [about] 8,000 titles on e-readers,” [Keir Neuringer, a longtime volunteer with Books Through Bars, said.] “When you consider that those of us on the outside have access to millions and millions of titles. This policy cuts you out of such an enormous access to books.” Neuringer also stated that e-book tablets make it possible for the DOC to start monitoring what people were reading."
[2018-10-04T18:44:27Z] olso6229: I'm not going to read a million, much less 8,000, books in my lifetime
[2018-10-04T18:45:04Z] olso6229: My frame of mind on book access was changed already by us talking, and even more after reading this
[2018-10-04T18:45:51Z] olso6229: Yeah, all of us "on the outside" all have access to every coffee shop in the twin cities, but who cares?? It's a totally empty statement to me
[2018-10-04T19:00:09Z] boris: - might be this:
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no more, my lord
https://youtu.be/4Is6N4Q26Tc
[2018-10-04T19:01:58Z] danks010: Thanks Boris! This is exactly what I was looking for! :+1:
[2018-10-04T19:03:21Z] boris: note the sound of a chip striking the microphone towards the end
[2018-10-04T19:04:16Z] boris:
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Various - Negro Prison Songs
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Negro-Prison-Songs/release/1587237
[2018-10-04T19:04:41Z] boris: I have the record, maybe we should organize a listening session:)
[2018-10-04T19:04:45Z] olso6229: YES
[2018-10-04T19:05:52Z] danks010: I will definitely keep my ears peeled for it! Thanks again.
[2018-10-04T19:08:07Z] olso6229: Is there a turntable in the weisman? can we bring it down to the target gallery during our class? to see how our moods and ideas change with the addition of sound
[2018-10-04T19:08:54Z] danks010: YES! Great Idea...definitely would think it would change the space with some noise, especially with the vaulted ceilings bouncing the noise.
[2018-10-04T22:58:54Z] olson175: this is the largest user of prison labor in the state according to Danny...
[2018-10-04T23:49:49Z] batzl015: Whaaaaaaaaaat
[2018-10-04T23:50:02Z] karle029: lol the irony is 2 good
[2018-10-04T23:51:25Z] batzl015: Also everyone, meet up this weekend/Monday to discuss questions and principles of the book arrangement? I think best with others I think
[2018-10-04T23:51:52Z] olso6229: Aye aye
[2018-10-04T23:52:49Z] karle029: yeah i'm down
[2018-10-05T00:20:28Z] danks010: ill do my best to try to get there
[2018-10-05T01:19:40Z] fasbe023: I'm in
[2018-10-05T14:47:52Z] schra470: I only have one class Monday (11:15-12:30) so that sounds great to me
[2018-10-05T14:50:18Z] batzl015: Cool :+1::skin-tone-2:
[2018-10-05T15:11:04Z] schra470: Just remembered something I forgot to recommend yesterday during our short discussion on music! For all those who are curious about music, check out the “music” episode on a show called “explained” on Netflix. Super fascinating info on how humans understand and experience music unlike any other creature on earth. I think there is something to be said about how there’s no true way to explain how the human brain puts all the elements of music together and makes sense of it, and for that to cause an emotional reaction....just something to be curious about :thinking_face: Also, I’d recommend everyone just watch that show in general, every episode is super interesting and just makes you a little more knowledgeable about topics you may have never even thought about! And it comes out on a weekly basis, so you don’t run out of episodes to watch:slightly_smiling_face::v::skin-tone-2:
[2018-10-05T18:53:56Z] olso6229: cool ill check it out, whats the nutshell of how humans experience music differently??
[2018-10-05T18:55:09Z] olso6229: Is monday or sunday a better day to meet? Open invitation to everyone
[2018-10-05T18:57:03Z] schra470: Basically from what I remember, there are all these different aspects of music (pitch, rhythm, harmony, etc) that are exclusively detected by different species, but we actually use all of these together to hear music
[2018-10-05T18:57:31Z] schra470: Also, a fun fact was that we are one of the only creatures that can easily move to a beat, almost unconsciously
[2018-10-05T19:10:30Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-05T19:10:32Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-05T19:10:37Z] olso6229: Markus Miessen will be at Rapson this fall
[2018-10-05T19:11:28Z] olso6229: Monday, November 26th at 5pm in Rapson 100
[2018-10-05T19:23:15Z] mahla008: Omg it's that guy
[2018-10-05T19:33:11Z] olso6229: Lets invite him to the weisman
[2018-10-05T20:18:36Z] watso595: Zines in studio for the studio crawl!!
[2018-10-05T20:28:47Z] olso6229: SENSATIONAL
[2018-10-05T20:29:07Z] olso6229: Anyone going to the WAM many visions preview party tonight after studio crawl?
[2018-10-05T23:54:57Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-06T00:27:28Z] krieg087: Hey everyone!! I think I finally have my slack up and running again?? I'm realizing my comments from last weekend never posted when I thought they were (Sam I'm pretty positive the same thing was happening to me, as what happened to your slack a couple weeks ago). So for my assignment I'm going to need some volunteers, the more there are, the more powerful the project.
Looking at the idea of imprisonment, I want to do portraits of our studio group and give people the chance to just bear raw emotion and discuss heavy topics in a public way. The theme of each portrait will be the question asked personally "What am I imprisoned by?" My portrait will be about my disability and feeling imprisoned by my own body.
If you want to be a part of this feel free to like this message, contact me via Facebook message, email me at , shoot me a text, send a telegraph, or a tiny rolled up scroll delivered by a fox, or a note on a carrier pigeon.
[2018-10-06T00:43:04Z] batzl015: Just wrote a little thing on the interview I did with my mom about her teaching practice and her thoughts on Coccia’s writing. Here it is!
[2018-10-06T00:46:44Z] olso6229: Wow good timing, heres my mom interview for the zine too haha
[2018-10-06T00:51:59Z] olso6229: i'll also post this in newsletter media [edited file, latest version is in ]
[2018-10-06T00:52:10Z] olso6229: here's a PDF too
[2018-10-06T00:52:29Z] olso6229: im heading to WAM preview party now, but i'll read it this weekend
[2018-10-06T01:27:28Z] rumbe003:
[2018-10-06T01:27:31Z] rumbe003:
[2018-10-06T01:27:35Z] rumbe003:
[2018-10-06T01:28:10Z] rumbe003: Matt had me handwrite an interview with John Cage about collaboration, and to try and incorporate sketches relevant to Cage's life/work
[2018-10-06T01:28:15Z] rumbe003: So, here it is I guess!
[2018-10-06T01:30:29Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-06T01:30:33Z] mahla008: It's Poppin at the weisman
[2018-10-06T01:30:57Z] olso6229: Im on #slack mom
[2018-10-06T01:56:27Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-06T02:12:00Z] mahla008: Are we meeting Monday or was there a plan for a time this weekend?
[2018-10-06T18:15:26Z] watso595: I could meet monday
[2018-10-06T18:25:45Z] karle029: If this helps to figure out a time when people are all available :
[2018-10-06T18:26:29Z] karle029: updated notes
[2018-10-06T18:28:26Z] mahla008: Wow that's a cool tool
[2018-10-06T18:29:08Z] olso6229: Oooo ty
[2018-10-06T18:43:52Z] olso6229: I like this way more than doodle
[2018-10-06T18:43:58Z] olso6229: Filled my availability out
[2018-10-07T19:51:20Z] schra470:
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The end of American prison visits: jails end face-to-face contact – and families suffer
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/09/skype-for-jailed-video-calls-prisons-replace-in-person-visits
[2018-10-07T19:58:08Z] schra470: This is what Matt was talking about on Thursday when he briefly brought up switching from in-person visits to video chats in prison. Not only is stripping away an inmates ability to have face to face contact unethical in my opinion, the fact that a person has to pay $13 for a 20 minute, glitching conversation is absurd. I personally believe nobody should ever profit off of crime and incarceration, but here is YET ANOTHER way in which someone is filling their pockets at the expense of others. It is sad. Also, I know this is nothing like being separated by incarceration, but being somebody who uses video chat almost daily to connect with my partner who lives in a different city, I can easily say there is so much lacking in a conversation that happens over a screen, vs in person contact. This is just sad.
[2018-10-07T22:54:36Z] rumbe003: Crazy... the prison phone industry is valued at 1.2 billion dollars a year! That's insane!
[2018-10-07T22:54:54Z] rumbe003: Monopolizing human rights
[2018-10-07T22:58:34Z] rumbe003: Are there any question that people might have about prisons and the architecture of prisons and how design might be used as a strategy in prisons? Or anything along those lines? I'm going into BWBR tomorrow for an informational interview and I know that one of the architects that I'm meeting with has a large body of work in prison design, so I plan on picking his brain a little bit
[2018-10-08T12:31:19Z] batzl015: Meet later today? Also does anyone know how to play piano/have access to a piano?
[2018-10-08T12:53:37Z] olso6229: you could open up a DAW like garageband or logic on your laptop and use a keyboard piano :musical_keyboard:
[2018-10-08T13:40:25Z] olso6229: aside from the 1st floor piano in coffman, there are pianos by the whole and upstairs around the president’s room
[2018-10-08T13:41:01Z] olso6229: There might be one in the lind hall library still
[2018-10-08T13:42:58Z] watso595: It looks like around 4 today might be a good time to meet?
[2018-10-08T13:44:54Z] olso6229: I could jam with a four
[2018-10-08T13:45:35Z] batzl015: 4 works for me!
[2018-10-08T14:56:55Z] olso6229: Just had a chat at work with our digital comms director, she pitched the idea of having me do a U of M alumni association instagram takeover for like a week. Im thinking it could be a good way to promote wecolab/weisman/danny’s project/BDA
Thoughts?
[2018-10-08T15:10:38Z] schra470: Yes!!
[2018-10-08T15:11:10Z] schra470: Also I can meet at 4 too :grin: BDA studio?
[2018-10-08T15:13:30Z] watso595: Yeah let’s meet in studio, there’ll be some classes going on but I think it could be good to discuss wecolab stuff around other BDA students since they aren’t able to see what we do as much
[2018-10-08T19:36:23Z] schra470: turned the google docs prison playlist into a spotify playlist for easier listening! Added a few of my own songs and made it collaborative, so if you have spotify, add away!
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Prison
https://open.spotify.com/user/1247497233/playlist/1v3SH9dyKt3X5ZAsuBBy4T?si=9LeF9BMGSx-bOm21bdswOQ
[2018-10-08T20:10:57Z] schra470: Artist Trent Bell created this very moving project in 2014 called "REFLECT Project" which basically consists of portraits of prisoners with letters to their past selves surrounding them....Powerful stuff that may give insight into the personal more human side of this project. Here's a link to the images:
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Reflect Portrait of Wes
https://www.trentbell.com/REFLECT-Project/prisoners/1
[2018-10-08T21:59:02Z] schra470: Lee and Oliver’s Collaborative transportation
[2018-10-08T22:01:51Z] karle029: bad news ppl
[2018-10-08T22:02:13Z] karle029: weismann is closed on mondays apparently
[2018-10-08T22:02:26Z] schra470: OMG NO
[2018-10-08T22:02:34Z] watso595: Oh no
[2018-10-08T22:03:03Z] schra470: Sasha are you still there
[2018-10-08T22:03:09Z] karle029: yes
[2018-10-08T22:15:30Z] schra470: If anyone who’s free wants to come to the wood workshop we are here!
[2018-10-09T14:23:45Z] schra470: Our prototype is being carted
[2018-10-09T18:26:24Z] olso6229: about NY book art fair
[2018-10-09T18:26:28Z] olso6229: i've mentioned moon palace books before
[2018-10-09T18:26:56Z] olso6229: moon palce is drawing from NY book art fair
[2018-10-09T18:27:46Z] olso6229: i can also see threads to the NY book art fair from this years Autoptic in downtown
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Autoptic 2018 / Aug. 19, 2018 / MPLS, MN
https://autoptic.org/
[2018-10-09T18:28:21Z] olso6229: beautiful place too, Aria
[2018-10-10T00:23:10Z] olso6229: Jakob colten and i are communicating with Jennifer at the MN Prison Writing Workshop. I can copy or summarize her email for you all, she’s been a great help to us so far. Does anyone have any questions or thoughts they want to have us translate over to her?
[2018-10-10T00:24:21Z] olso6229: The prison workshop also hosts a public reading event called Beyond Bars, which i think we all need to go to
[2018-10-10T00:24:41Z] olso6229: Jennifer was gracious and invited us all there
[2018-10-10T00:25:43Z] olso6229: It’ll be at Hamline this month
[2018-10-10T00:25:47Z] olso6229:
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Beyond Bars: A Public Reading - October 22, 2016, 7:00pm
https://www.mnprisonwriting.org/mpww-public-reading.html
[2018-10-10T00:28:09Z] olso6229: As far as book donations, we’re getting copies of the gift and how can i help? I mean, really, imagine the WARDEN holding copies of those books in their hands and deciding if they get in. That’s wild to me :face_with_cowboy_hat:
[2018-10-10T00:32:16Z] olso6229: and I also have some info to unpack and communicate to y’all
[2018-10-10T00:33:03Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-10T00:33:52Z] olso6229: We just found this earlier tonight
[2018-10-10T00:36:01Z] olso6229: In tune with ’s conversation with BWBR. Also, Sam, did the people you talk to at BWBR have a weird attitude about being a firm that has designed prisons? Were they embarrassed, was there a stigma attached to it, were they neutral or happy about it? Curious what their feeling towards it are
[2018-10-10T00:40:52Z] danks010: Super interested in exploring some of the ideas regarding a study by Laura Kurgan that mentioned above. and I are applying some of the things we learned in WeCoLab to a research project in another class.
[2018-10-10T00:41:44Z] danks010: You might need to give me a recap of the Beyond Bars Lecture if you go. I have class on Monday nights so I can't make it. Really wish I could go though.
[2018-10-10T02:56:57Z] olso6229: Anyone have time for a library visit tomorrow 2pm?
[2018-10-10T03:42:02Z] olso6229: We have room for 1 more to come with
[2018-10-10T03:42:16Z] olso6229: In coltens car anyway
[2018-10-10T03:42:42Z] olso6229: We’re going to MCAD / MIA at 2pm
[2018-10-10T03:43:57Z] olso6229: If you have time, you should meet up and check it out with us all! :bat:
[2018-10-10T17:25:40Z] olson175: could you guys bring some wecolabs and try to place them? especially using your new awareness of etiquette :slightly_smiling_face:
[2018-10-10T17:25:55Z] olson175: newsletters that is
[2018-10-10T17:27:02Z] mahla008: where can we get the newsletters? Is there more in studio?
[2018-10-10T17:27:48Z] watso595: In the arch office, in a box
[2018-10-10T17:27:59Z] watso595: Mahva can tell you if you can’t find the box
[2018-10-10T17:30:34Z] schra470: can I come to the library today!?
[2018-10-10T17:32:13Z] mahla008: Cool cool pwatts
[2018-10-10T17:51:43Z] schra470: Shelves have been moved from our original cluster...interesting observation, wonder how this will affect the view from the window
[2018-10-10T17:55:43Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-10T17:55:46Z] mahla008: I bet it was this guy who moved them
[2018-10-10T18:25:23Z] olso6229: Let’s come up with some locations to group up outside of the Weisman for tomorrow:
[2018-10-10T18:25:44Z] olso6229: The graduate hotel lobby
[2018-10-10T18:26:24Z] olso6229: Nanotech building 2nd or 3rd floor
[2018-10-10T18:26:29Z] mahla008: ?
[2018-10-10T18:27:11Z] olso6229: Didn’t we say that we would think of places to meet with Danny outside of WAM tomorrow?
[2018-10-10T18:27:17Z] olso6229: Or did that get scrapped?
[2018-10-10T18:27:57Z] schra470: Graduate hotel lobby :heart_eyes: most comfortable seating
[2018-10-10T18:28:31Z] batzl015: I think it would be cool to meet outside of WAM or Rapson
[2018-10-10T18:28:49Z] batzl015: Maybe a room in Bruninks? I’m not sure
[2018-10-10T18:29:26Z] olso6229: Bruininks feels sterile IMO, the lobby areas facing the river is nice
[2018-10-10T18:29:31Z] mahla008: I thought we were just meeting in a different room of the weismann
[2018-10-10T18:29:39Z] mahla008: Cause we couldn't decide
[2018-10-10T18:30:00Z] olso6229: I thought that was for the first half before we meet Danny
[2018-10-10T18:31:53Z] mahla008: :thinking_face:
[2018-10-10T18:33:08Z] olso6229: the merge records bit in your email is really throwin me off
[2018-10-10T18:33:25Z] olso6229: Your friends know how to pick em
[2018-10-10T18:35:00Z] olso6229: about the book rearrangement, see ’s photo/message above. Seems like someone outside of our class did it? As far as i know, we left then placed neatly on the carts, which were clustered by the window
[2018-10-10T18:37:51Z] olso6229: We will distribute some magazines to MCAD + MIA today. Light Grey Art Lab is across the street from MCAD, maybe we can drop some off there.
[2018-10-10T19:09:21Z] olso6229: you still wanna come with?
[2018-10-10T19:10:22Z] schra470: Yes! I’ve been in contact with Colten, we good
[2018-10-10T19:10:29Z] olso6229: Sweet
[2018-10-10T19:10:36Z] olso6229: Jakob and i will come down to HGA
[2018-10-10T23:04:44Z] olso6229: we’ve got some cool news to pass on from our library visit today !!
[2018-10-10T23:05:41Z] olso6229: We’ll explain tomorrow :scorpion::basketball:
[2018-10-11T01:17:45Z] feria006: Matt asked me to share this manifesto by Jason Rens an individual not so characterized by his designs as much as the individual aspects of craft and emotion that they evoke. I looked into Rens further and discovered a couple interview in which he got into many of the topics/issues we are facing now. First, he talks about materials as letters in the alphabet, how when in the right combination and order they can make words, sentences and eventually language. I think this could be something to consider as we move forward in to making something.
[2018-10-11T01:21:26Z] feria006: Second, his thoughts on collaboration. Most of his projects involving collaborating across many different professions, mediums and ideologies. I think going forward we should use his manifesto in order to keep our ideas evolving and thus making the product much more evoking.
[2018-10-11T02:03:29Z] olson175: He's a friend so, if we wanna Skype with him or something, it'd be easy. (He might even say he learned some of this stuff from me?!) :slightly_smiling_face:
[2018-10-11T07:54:53Z] olso6229: Highlights from 's interview with architects @ BWBR about prison design. Posting for Sam because his Slack has toys in the attic
[2018-10-11T07:54:56Z] olso6229: -In their eyes, prison design has become much LESS oppressive over the last 10-15 years.. more space is being provided for inmates in cells and in common areas, more focus is being put towards ventilation of the prison, circulation within the prison to best suite the prisoners, etc. I found that to be interesting because I see it as a sign of positive change and motion(hopefully).
-These designers/architects talked me through some design strategies that they use. In each prison, they strive for two things: Calmness and Security. How do these things mix and match? Security is such a tension-inducing word, calmness is the opposite. They aim to provide abundant amounst of daylight into qualifying areas of the prisons, as well as the use of acoustic materials on the walls and in corners of larger areas. Since there are so many hard surfaces in prisons, sounds bounces everywhere, especially when tensions are high and there is lots of yelling. I found this to be especially interesting, especially in light of our recent discussions regarding sound, and sound as a free and endless resource.
-Perhaps most importantly, they encouraged me to think of prison as a city. This I found to be incredibly thought provoking. Society always constructs this image of "real life" and the city life as one thing, and then prisons as an entirely different world/concept. In reality, prisons have stores, economies, transportations systems, postal services, recreational opportunities, educational facilities, etc. Many components to the cities that free citizens live in and understand! I think we could be more productive moving forward if we also thought of prisons as miniature cities, instead of thinking of them as other-worldly. We may be able to empathize more efficiently with prisoners and find more humanity in our humility.
[2018-10-11T07:57:29Z] olso6229: ++ in the morning let's all talk about meeting outside of WAM for the back half of class
[2018-10-11T18:13:28Z] feria006: Just a spark from the meeting with Danny today, he talked a lot of statistics of the people in jail (all family member, half parents, third with mental illness) an idea for redacting our readings could be using those percentages for the percent of the reading, skipping pages or words to raise awareness to the types of people that are in this system
[2018-10-11T18:19:10Z] olso6229: Damn, good observation , i totally missed that. I did pick up on Danny being into incorporating the number of balloons that a prisoner would pack for single shipping into something we make. Ideas?
[2018-10-11T18:23:06Z] olso6229: Overview from today with Danny:
- balloons :balloon: + handing out to people, incorporated with the target gallery space, something that gets handed out at the event? during the sleep conversation event, people were given pillows, pillow cases, and sewing kits to make at home, as an activity to help them fall asleep. Create a giant pikachu balloon glob at the WAM entry
[2018-10-11T18:24:00Z] olso6229: - evoke prison visitation environment. Rows/benches of seats where people face each other
[2018-10-11T18:24:40Z] olso6229: ^^ tie boris’ interview with robert irwin + habitability symposium into the way we think about this
[2018-10-11T18:25:46Z] olso6229: (Cool note, boris is generating a habitability symposium in 2020 here. Also, jennifer newsom + dream the combine will be the artists in residence at WAM next academic year)
[2018-10-11T18:27:20Z] olso6229: you should talk to jennifer about Spooky Architecture. She did a guest lecture in one of my classes on Halloween last year dressed as a witch.
[2018-10-11T18:28:47Z] olso6229: - directional lines on the floor. Tape may ruin the floor, try paint instead. Will people have a weird psychological obstacle of crossing a painted line on the floor?
[2018-10-11T18:30:59Z] olso6229: How that evokes control, restriction, authority, order, rules, manufacturing inaccessibility, obscuring. We don’t know what we don’t know
[2018-10-11T18:37:14Z] olso6229: - play handball as a performance? Activity outside of WAM to stop people on the street. Something we do during the workshop artist talk? Something filmed or photographed and gets projected into the space?
[2018-10-11T18:38:07Z] olso6229: - will WAM allow concrete or cinderblocks?
[2018-10-11T18:40:43Z] olso6229: - how can we use sound? Start recording books on tape. Redact audio - distort audio, censor with SFX, dont record certain words/topics/passages/etc. Is the redaction explicit or hidden? A false transparency? People wouldn’t know what they don’t know.
[2018-10-11T18:45:59Z] olso6229: - about materials, danny mentioned blue-gray enamel paint
[2018-10-11T18:47:12Z] olso6229: - can we see if the U of M has a banned books list?
[2018-10-11T18:47:38Z] olso6229: How does that list overlap, align, conflict, surprise us when compared to DOC lists?
[2018-10-11T18:49:16Z] olso6229: A reminder: MN Prison Writing Workshop’s Beyond Bars event is at Hamline next Saturday, October 20 at 7 PM – 9 PM
[2018-10-11T18:50:18Z] olso6229: The event is free and Jennifer from the program has warmly and graciously invited us all to attend
[2018-10-11T18:51:47Z] danks010: That Spooky Architecture lecture your talking about is really interesting, besides the point that it doesn't relate to this project
[2018-10-11T18:52:13Z] olso6229: In what ways does it not?
[2018-10-11T18:53:18Z] danks010: I suppose I would have to reflect more on it. That's a good question for me to explore.
[2018-10-11T19:01:32Z] danks010:
[2018-10-11T19:01:51Z] danks010:
[2018-10-11T19:04:00Z] danks010: Here was a few collages I had been working on to build ways to express ideas by storytelling. I realize after todays meeting that these may be irrelevant but the goal behind them was try to evoke ideas of viewing the space. However, I am keeping this on the back burner to allow other ideas to be generated.
[2018-10-11T19:11:40Z] olso6229: Thank you for sharing !!
[2018-10-11T19:12:22Z] olso6229: Markus Miessen will be in Rapson on November 26th.
He's the Principle Architect of Studio Miessen in Germany, which is self-described as a "decentrally-organized group of architects, designers, and researchers interested in the deployment of Critical Spatial Practice as a methodology. They collaboratively work and consult on projects that include spatial design, strategic frameworks, research, curatorial and discursive activities."
They also say they "work closely with artists, who we assist to realize small-to-large-scale spatial ideas and support them in realizing exhibitions and large-scale institutional shows. Our work also includes self-initiated activities and projects that span from physical construction to writing and criticism. Our practice is based on dialogue."
Sounds familiar. :slightly_smiling_face:
If Markus is here on the day before or after that Monday, we should invite him to WAM, talk with him, other ideas?
[2018-10-11T19:13:54Z] danks010: Most definitely agree.
[2018-10-11T19:13:57Z] olso6229: - here are some photos of Danny's work that I was referencing today:
[2018-10-11T19:16:52Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-11T19:48:11Z] olso6229: I've scheduled my office Instagram takeover for the week of Danny's workshop/conversation in November
[2018-10-11T19:49:46Z] olso6229: Following from our discussion on how to escape architectural material traps, here's a recent solo exhibition from MCAD faculty member Kate Casanova. This was at Public Functionary this August
[2018-10-11T19:49:47Z] olso6229:
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Body Works: Kate Casanova at Public Functionary
https://www.mplsart.com/written/2018/08/body-works-kate-casanova-at-public-functionary/
[2018-10-11T20:33:44Z] olson175: here's the guys I work with for context, you might even recognize some universal patterns and forms?
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Sober path out of prison in jeopardy
http://www.startribune.com/sober-path-out-of-prison-in-jeopardy/122632424/
[2018-10-11T23:42:09Z] karle029: could you add your notes to the google doc pls:)
[2018-10-12T01:16:31Z] karle029: ‼️ please fill out your availability !! ‼️
[2018-10-12T01:18:12Z] mahla008: ^^^^^^^^
[2018-10-12T03:16:42Z] olso6229: i would love to :heart:
[2018-10-12T03:32:44Z] olso6229: I've restructured the google notes document
[2018-10-12T03:32:47Z] olso6229: and added notes from today
[2018-10-12T03:34:34Z] olso6229: I've changed the chronology to descending dates, that way most recent meetings have higher visibility
[2018-10-12T03:36:59Z] olso6229: So a few of us visited MCAD/MIA this week. After talking to the librarians there, we found out MIA hosted an event during BANNED BOOKS WEEK at the end of September titled "Don't Read This! Don't See This! : Censorship and the Creative Truth of Words and Art"
[2018-10-12T03:41:30Z] olso6229: We passed over a few copies of the WeCoLab zine to the librarians to give to program/department heads and directors. We also exchanged contact info, and will stay in touch. I asked Danny if he's interested in connecting with MIA and will follow up on that with him
[2018-10-12T03:42:34Z] olso6229: Sam's BWBR interview summary is also on the doc
[2018-10-12T03:44:09Z] olso6229: Does anyone want to take a trip to Moon Palace Books together? If you want to experience the NY book art fair approach firsthand, that place is a great resource
[2018-10-12T05:21:54Z] olso6229: Anyone have time for a library visit next Monday or Wednesday afternoon?
[2018-10-12T07:32:00Z] olso6229:
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The Voice Behind Many Bestselling Books On Tape Is Actually That of An Infamous Serial Killer
https://www.shared.com/serial-killer-audio-books/
[2018-10-12T07:32:29Z] olso6229: Kemper murdered several people, including his paternal grandparents and mother
[2018-10-12T07:32:43Z] olso6229: He was also a necrophiliac
[2018-10-12T07:33:05Z] olso6229: Bits from the article:
[2018-10-12T07:33:07Z] olso6229: "From 1977 to 1987, Kemper had spent over 5,000 hours in the recording booth and had more than four million feet of tape and several hundred books to his credit"
[2018-10-12T07:33:11Z] olso6229: “I can’t begin to tell you what this has meant to me, to be able to do something constructive for someone else, to be appreciated by so many people, the good feeling it gives me after what I have done,” Kemper said.
[2018-10-12T07:35:07Z] olso6229: He is currently serving 8 concurrent life sentences in California
[2018-10-12T07:37:45Z] olso6229:
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Imgur
https://imgur.com/xzWBeyL
[2018-10-12T07:37:56Z] olso6229: Is there something we can do with the essence of inmate IDs?
[2018-10-12T07:38:30Z] olso6229:
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Ed Kemper Interview - 1991 (extended)
https://youtu.be/j8IfslxOmF0
[2018-10-12T07:44:27Z] olso6229: This is wild, imagine this: this video is an interview of Ed Kemper by French writer Stéphane Bourgoin.
In 1976, Bourgoin discovered his girlfriend Eileen, "killed, raped and cut into pieces" in their apartment in Los Angeles, California.
Since 1979, Bourgoin has interviewed 77 different serial killers.
[2018-10-12T14:08:55Z] mahla008: reposting cause we only got half the studio rn
[2018-10-12T14:11:13Z] olso6229: it takes like 10 seconds to fill out on your phone :)
[2018-10-12T16:25:31Z] mahla008: Are the only people still needing to do the when to meet, but so far only half of us could meet tonight. Alot of us could do saturday morning, half on sunday, and most of us monday evening
[2018-10-12T17:39:43Z] rumbe003: I am out of town at a family wedding all weekend so my only day I can meet is Monday evening
[2018-10-12T17:39:52Z] rumbe003: as I just put into the thing
[2018-10-12T18:05:10Z] olso6229: Sweet thanks for the heads up sam!
[2018-10-12T18:07:25Z] batzl015: just updated it!
[2018-10-12T19:26:41Z] olso6229: Thank you Pangolin
[2018-10-12T19:36:38Z] santo204: Sorry for the delay, I filled out the when 2 meet now
[2018-10-12T20:00:44Z] mahla008: Would we want to meet Saturday morning and then maybe Sunday night? And if we have to Monday night?
[2018-10-12T20:02:23Z] batzl015: I dig that
[2018-10-12T20:02:54Z] mahla008: And then maybe after the proposal we could maybe break into teams for certain projects for the 14th so it's easier for people to meet in those groups?
[2018-10-12T20:07:13Z] watso595: I could meet tomorrow morning! I like that plan
[2018-10-12T20:07:26Z] olso6229: Agree im into it
[2018-10-12T20:36:18Z] schra470: Spotted in the bathroom at St. Croix state park :eyes:
[2018-10-13T00:05:31Z] danks010: Nice find.
[2018-10-13T00:06:49Z] olso6229: See yall tomorrow around 9 am in rapson!
[2018-10-13T15:44:27Z] watso595: Hey , we're working on drafting a project proposal and want to know if we're thinking about two separate projects (one for nov. 14th and the other for dec 11th), or if we want to have all of our ideas done by the artist talk on nov. 14th?
[2018-10-13T15:45:29Z] mahla008: I vote Nov 14th all ideas
[2018-10-13T15:46:00Z] watso595: I wonder about what we do after nov. 14th if we have all the projects done by then
[2018-10-13T15:46:04Z] olso6229: I vote duo/concurrent projects
[2018-10-13T15:48:40Z] fasbe023: Duo/concurrent
[2018-10-13T16:10:25Z] : has a poll for you!
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Hey @everyone, we're working on drafting a project proposal and want to know if we're thinking about two separate projects (one for nov. 14th and the other for dec 11th), or if we want to have all of our ideas done by the artist talk on nov. 14th?
[2018-10-13T16:22:10Z] batzl015: I’ll be in around noon to work with y’all
[2018-10-13T16:48:32Z] schra470: Unfortunately I’m out of town today so I won’t be able to come help, but I will be available on Sunday night and Monday to help continue the project
[2018-10-13T16:52:11Z] mahla008: We will have a second meeting Sunday night, time to be decided later, we got a good start today and Parker and a few others will be forming a draft of the proposal to be edited and finalized tomorrow for matt
[2018-10-13T17:10:29Z] batzl015: Where are y’all?
[2018-10-13T17:10:37Z] batzl015: Did you finish up already?
[2018-10-13T17:11:21Z] olso6229: I left, but we set up a google doc draft for the project proposal :ok_hand::ok_hand:
[2018-10-13T17:11:36Z] batzl015: Ok, sounds good
[2018-10-13T17:11:40Z] batzl015: Sorry I couldn’t make it
[2018-10-13T17:12:21Z] olso6229: No problem, see you tomorrow?
[2018-10-13T17:16:09Z] batzl015: Yep!
[2018-10-13T18:43:54Z] olson175: great to see motion/enthusiasm! Nice job you guys. Just a reminder - maybe you're already doing this but - I encourage you to move all things forward at the same time... so discussions about dates are important but until we know more about what we're going to do, it's hard to make those decisions meaningful? I always try to keep as many variables in the air and moving with me as long as I can. The variables I can see now are: built objects (design, iterations, and prototyping may be necessary), policies the Weisman and Boris have that might affect those objects/designs, budgets and the necessity to get Gayla and Boris's approval, shop time and project planning, material considerations, de-installation and disposal/recycling at the end of the project, new ideas that will emerge as we move... so make sure you visit these things if you haven't! What am I forgetting? And let me know "how can I help" :slightly_smiling_face:
[2018-10-13T18:44:16Z] rumbe003: Sorry I couldn't make it either, thank for doing that you guys! Exciting stuff!
[2018-10-13T22:50:26Z] watso595: Hey Matt, do you have any examples of project proposals or things like that your firm has made? might be useful as reference while we start to think about all these variables and work on the first draft of ours
[2018-10-14T00:40:37Z] olson175: as part of our attitude about 'open practice' we don't participate in competitions or RFPs so formal, written proposals have been rare in my work. We pretty much only work with people who approach us and never really seek work. But I'd be happy to talk you guys through a few projects on Tuesday to explain how they've come to life. Let me know.
[2018-10-14T14:41:23Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-14T14:42:25Z] olso6229: We should donate these books at Beyond Bars!
[2018-10-14T14:54:11Z] olso6229: Also, a few of us are going to the center for book arts + library in downtown minneapolis on monday afternoon. Open invitation to join us! :books::slightly_smiling_face:
[2018-10-14T16:37:37Z] mahla008: just a reminder that we are meeting from 3-5 in the the BDA studio today
[2018-10-14T16:45:41Z] olso6229: I’ll be there!
[2018-10-14T19:52:20Z] santo204: I’ll be working in the Rapson laser lab from 3-10, so if someone wants to come fill me or work on scale models of any concepts let me know
[2018-10-14T19:53:12Z] mahla008: Np abe I'll fill you in when you come in and we will come by the lab and get ur help
[2018-10-14T20:47:00Z] fasbe023:
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Joe Rogan Experience #1171 - Nick Yarris
https://youtu.be/AIc5XYpRc1M
[2018-10-15T16:46:05Z] schra470: Where are we meeting up for today’s field trip?
[2018-10-15T16:46:35Z] olso6229: BDA studio, then we’ll walk to the greenline station together
[2018-10-15T16:46:53Z] watso595: Meeting at 1?
[2018-10-15T16:46:57Z] olso6229: Yes
[2018-10-15T21:33:59Z] batzl015: Move.
Some good advise from a zine I found at the Center for the Book Arts. Everyone should check this place out!
[2018-10-15T21:34:05Z] batzl015:
[2018-10-15T22:06:38Z] danks010: Wish I could have made it...Unfortunately I had class! Lol We have permission to skip class in favor of doing work for WeCoLab?
[2018-10-15T22:18:17Z] olson175: does move mean physical or conceptual?
[2018-10-15T23:29:53Z] batzl015: I think both
[2018-10-16T14:23:33Z] feria006:
Vice Article about prison handball. Many inmates talk about how the game play resembles life in prison.
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Handball Saved My Life: A Sport Behind Bars
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp7yyv/handball-saved-my-life-a-sport-behind-bars
[2018-10-16T14:46:40Z] fasbe023: A video to help understand what andy goldsworthy does
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Rivers and Tides- Andy Goldsworthy
https://youtu.be/f7sZv4_0Fxg
[2018-10-16T18:01:22Z] danks010: I have your sketchbook...you left it at the Weisman so I'll bring it to our meeting tomorrow.
[2018-10-16T19:26:10Z] mahla008: I bought batteries for the laser if you want to use it for measuring, if ur in rapson rn I can give it to ya or find a time to give it to you
[2018-10-16T19:28:37Z] fasbe023: Abe and I found this at the minneapolis central library
[2018-10-16T19:55:49Z] watso595: do you have the measurements of the space yet? does someone need to get an email to Boris?
[2018-10-16T20:32:00Z] santo204: Library visit
[2018-10-16T20:32:37Z] santo204: Happy Librarian
[2018-10-16T22:43:54Z] olso6229: The notes from today’s meeting are on the Google document. I organized everything we talked about into categories. There are plenty of ideas for each group to develop
[2018-10-16T22:47:45Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-16T22:50:23Z] batzl015: I will share a budget and material spreadsheet that I made earlier today with everyone tonight. It’s a list of possible materials, equipment, and costs that we can pull from when choosing our materials. Please take some time to take a look. I think we should have it filled out by tomorrow night at the latest. Keep the stoke high! :+1::skin-tone-2:
[2018-10-17T12:12:07Z] olso6229: the spreadsheet looks great, thanks for getting that started
[2018-10-17T20:31:42Z] santo204: & are we still meeting in the BDA studio?
[2018-10-17T20:32:38Z] karle029: weisman
[2018-10-17T20:54:51Z] schra470: Hey guys, just shared with you all an “observation log” that the guard gang is going to work on as the space changes. We will primarily add to it, but if you find yourself observing in your free time, feel free to log your findings on this doc!
[2018-10-18T03:54:06Z] batzl015: Great work filling out the materials spreadsheet y’all!
[2018-10-18T03:54:51Z] batzl015: We still need to fill the video and audio section, so if anyone has done research on that, please put it in the spreadsheet so we can discuss feasibility tomorrow!
[2018-10-18T15:07:22Z] kesse046: This is a simplistic shell of the space, feel free to request the addition of details we will need
[2018-10-18T16:27:07Z] batzl015: A used prison bench…
[2018-10-18T16:28:54Z] batzl015:
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Barker Built® Replacement Seat, Stainless | Jail and Correctional Supplies
https://www.bobbarker.com/replacement-seat-stainless.html
[2018-10-18T18:06:52Z] schra470: Here’s my really REALLY rough sketch from today if we wanna run with the idea of a slant
[2018-10-18T18:09:39Z] batzl015: I think I need more time to work over slants :thinking_face: I don’t know how that functions with the redaction of books that we were passionate about earlier
[2018-10-18T18:52:59Z] mahla008: I think there can be room for both, books on display and book redaction
[2018-10-18T19:36:41Z] batzl015: I totally agree
[2018-10-18T19:37:01Z] batzl015: We should be intentional about how those things relate though
[2018-10-18T19:37:31Z] batzl015: Maybe they’re the same, like redacted and displayed
[2018-10-18T21:55:34Z] feria006: I think the slant is super dope. #slantgang
[2018-10-19T00:25:34Z] olson175: could there be lighting under the benchs?
[2018-10-19T03:35:12Z] kesse046: Here's a quick model of a bench in Sketchup. 12 benches will cost ~$315 (including tax.) I looked on the Home Depot website and found the 2x4s (8' long) are $2.59 per piece and the 4'x8'x3/4" plywood is $20.07 per piece. It will take a total of 20 8' long 2x4's, and 12 sheets of plywood to construct all 12. The bench's dimensions are 1 1/2' x 1 1/2' x 8'
[2018-10-19T03:36:00Z] kesse046: This design is modeled off of Haley's design
[2018-10-19T03:36:08Z] kesse046:
[2018-10-19T19:08:39Z] mahla008: The gift and How Can I Help is on its way to the wardens office in stillwater
[2018-10-19T20:53:05Z] olso6229: Thank you !!
[2018-10-19T21:31:13Z] mahla008: Very cool!
[2018-10-19T23:03:33Z] olso6229: On display at All Square
[2018-10-19T23:44:16Z] olso6229: Bob Marley — I Shot the Sheriff was playing while we ate
[2018-10-19T23:50:44Z] olso6229: Quick info about All Square:
[2018-10-19T23:50:53Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-20T14:26:39Z] olso6229: Who all is coming to Beyond Bars tonight with , , and me?
[2018-10-20T14:45:27Z] batzl015: I don’t think I can come through :( My parents are in the cities tonight and I should spend time with them. I will work on getting some stuff seriously ideated for our big meeting tomorrow :+1::skin-tone-2:
[2018-10-20T14:45:55Z] batzl015: Let us know how beyond bars goes though! Report back!
[2018-10-20T18:11:41Z] krieg087: I'm coming! Is there someone driving?
[2018-10-20T23:32:04Z] olso6229: What’s the situation with the WeCoLab tumblr? Is it good to go? I feel like we haven’t heard about it for a while now
[2018-10-20T23:32:18Z] olso6229: Also do we have everything for zine #2?
[2018-10-21T01:23:17Z] olso6229: We need to do something with MPWW, moon palace, and/or free black dirt for the artist talk or beyond in WAM
[2018-10-21T02:42:09Z] olso6229: Holy shit wow, the MPWW event broke my heart and made me laugh hysterically and everything inbetween
[2018-10-21T02:42:51Z] olso6229: We connected with Jen of MPWW and Erin + Janauda of Free Black Dirt
[2018-10-21T02:43:17Z] olso6229: Would love to get them involved somehow
[2018-10-21T13:25:56Z] olso6229: Just got off the phone with Janauda
[2018-10-21T13:27:31Z] olso6229: such an awesome woman
[2018-10-21T13:32:20Z] batzl015: :+1::skin-tone-2::+1::skin-tone-2: amazing lee
[2018-10-21T13:32:58Z] batzl015: Hope to hear more and see where this relationship takes us!
[2018-10-21T13:51:13Z] olso6229: Who all is meeting today?
[2018-10-21T16:15:02Z] watso595: I will be
[2018-10-21T16:15:30Z] batzl015: Me!
[2018-10-21T16:15:40Z] batzl015: What time are we doing?
[2018-10-21T16:21:27Z] mahla008: 5:00 is when most people can meet but we can start a little bit earlier
[2018-10-21T16:28:48Z] olso6229: I will meet earlier
[2018-10-21T16:29:04Z] olso6229: Notes from thursday are up on the google doc !
[2018-10-21T16:29:30Z] batzl015: I’ll be in there at 2ish
[2018-10-21T16:47:15Z] danks010: Please keep me posted how it's going. I'll try to put in some work on my end with some sketches/iterations/elaborating on ideas. Apologize I can't make it down.
[2018-10-21T19:00:46Z] mahla008: If you in rapson there's a mini meeting in the laser lab
[2018-10-21T19:01:10Z] batzl015: Maybe 3ish, I got bad sleep last night
[2018-10-21T19:01:34Z] batzl015: Bottom line, I’ll be there before 5
[2018-10-21T19:01:49Z] watso595: All good
[2018-10-21T22:38:17Z] mahla008: We all in the woodshop if your late to the meeting
[2018-10-22T03:44:42Z] watso595: Notes from today’s meeting are in the doc!
[2018-10-22T03:52:50Z] olso6229: Thank you
[2018-10-23T01:37:31Z] olso6229: We should reach out to Emily Hunt Turner
[2018-10-23T01:37:41Z] olso6229: She's the founder of the All Square institute + restaurant
[2018-10-23T01:37:50Z] olso6229: Weird energy in relation to all of us, she's trained as an architect
[2018-10-23T01:39:22Z] olso6229: But mainly practices in public policy as a civil rights attorney
[2018-10-23T02:01:51Z] olso6229:
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Prison Life in Scandinavia - Discover Scandinavia
https://www.dailyscandinavian.com/prison-life-in-scandinavia/
[2018-10-23T02:02:17Z] olso6229: >_Based on figures, it’s safe to assume Norway’s criminal justice system is doing something right. Few citizens there go to prison, and those who do usually go only once. So how does Scandinavia accomplish this feat? The countries rely on a concept called “restorative justice,” which aims to repair the harm caused by crime rather than punish people._
[2018-10-23T02:11:53Z] olso6229:
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Why Scandinavian Prisons Are Superior
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/
[2018-10-23T02:12:24Z] olso6229: >_Cellblocks look like dorms at a state university. Though worse for wear, rooms feature flat-screen TVs, sound systems, and mini-refrigerators for the prisoners who can afford to rent them for prison-labor wages of 4.10 to 7.3 Euros per hour ($5.30 to $9.50). With electronic monitoring, prisoners are allowed to spend time with their families in Helsinki. Men here enjoy a screened barbecue pit, a gym, and a dining hall where prisoners and staff eat together. Prisoners throughout Scandinavia wear their own clothes._
[2018-10-23T02:20:57Z] olso6229: >_Each prisoner has a “contact officer” who monitors and helps advance progress toward return to the world outside—a practice introduced to help officers avoid the damage experienced by performing purely punitive functions: stress, hypertension, alcoholism, suicide, and other job-related hazards that today plague American corrections officers, who have an average life expectancy of 59._
[2018-10-23T02:23:28Z] olso6229: >_Throughout Scandinavia, criminal justice policy rarely enters political debate. Decisions about best practices are left to professionals in the field, who are often published criminologists and consult closely with academics._
[2018-10-23T02:36:02Z] renst011: Heyo everyone, newsletter #2 is in progress so if you haven't sent your individual assignments or documentations to me yet from the last 3-4(ish) weeks of class that you'd want to include, please do soon! Especially from gallery arrangements, responses to thoughts brought up in class, etc. Not everything will be able to make it into print but I want to make sure I have everyone's stuff. This won't include the physical conceptualization/buliding yet (besides Jocie's chair and maybe Evan's cart) but mostly the progress of thought and movement in prep for the spacial outcomes that are happening now. Feel free to shoot me any questions as well! Thank you!!
[2018-10-23T02:38:48Z] renst011: Also terrible at email response but if you have already, thank you thank you :—)
[2018-10-23T03:49:16Z] feria006: I agree
[2018-10-23T03:49:37Z] feria006: She has done a ton of work in our immediate community and would be interesting to talk to
[2018-10-23T17:34:11Z] mahla008: Is there a tape team ?
[2018-10-23T17:47:22Z] olso6229: Anyone who wants to join tomorrow afternoon, we’re going to Moon Palace Books around 2:30
[2018-10-23T17:53:56Z] olso6229: And maybe grab some food down the street at All Square? :sandwich::fries:
[2018-10-23T17:54:04Z] mahla008: Ooooooo
[2018-10-23T17:54:21Z] olso6229: Theyre both on Minnehaha ave
[2018-10-23T18:07:57Z] douga018: yes, its me Cole and Abe.
[2018-10-23T18:08:26Z] mahla008: Would it be cool if I join you guys?
[2018-10-23T18:56:59Z] douga018: yeah of course! We were planning on working on some research and doing sketches of possible tape layouts and then meeting to discuss later.
[2018-10-23T19:10:27Z] mahla008: sounds good I'll work on that as well!
[2018-10-23T19:35:15Z] danks010: Added the notes to the WeCoLab document. Let me know if I forgot anything, otherwise go ahead and add it directly. I covered everything from matt and boris suggestions/conversations to what Danne spoke about and our interest and concepts.
[2018-10-23T20:39:50Z] olso6229: Full circle, just realized Danny redacted his own book
[2018-10-23T20:40:24Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-23T20:41:17Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-23T20:49:19Z] mahla008: speaking of that i'm watching an interesting video on an art installation right now called the redaction project
[2018-10-23T20:49:21Z] mahla008:
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Anne de Marcken, The Redaction Project
https://vimeo.com/159719562
[2018-10-23T20:50:25Z] mahla008: It's really interesting how she talks about the many ways shes redacted this one book, but not only that but in way she thinks about the words and how they relate and what they mean next to each other
[2018-10-23T20:50:42Z] mahla008: its an interesting watch for those interested in redaction
[2018-10-23T20:57:45Z] mahla008: "Everything was still there, I just couldn't see it all. At some point the redaction itself became a compositional tool, I began to treat it almost like an element of grammar or an element of language, so the blacked out words themselves had as much significance as the words you could see. It was no longer just about concealing the things, its about revealing other things that had been obscured by syntax and narrative, by the conventions of language"
[2018-10-23T21:08:16Z] batzl015: Cooool
[2018-10-23T21:08:23Z] batzl015: I like that v much
[2018-10-23T21:34:08Z] danks010: Here's a brief description of libraries in prisons in Europe that me, Lee, and Cole found while doing research for a project regarding prison infrastructure.
[2018-10-23T21:41:52Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-23T23:11:54Z] kesse046:
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Why Beautiful Things Make us Happy – Beauty Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5kNPlUV7w
[2018-10-23T23:12:27Z] kesse046: something to keep in mind when designing, these ideas can be applied to prisons, as well as our instillation
[2018-10-23T23:13:59Z] olson175: Now I am Happy. Is that beauty?
[2018-10-23T23:39:54Z] karle029: @home depot
[2018-10-23T23:44:15Z] schra470: Not bad on price!!
[2018-10-24T01:00:48Z] mahla008: And they got lil stands
[2018-10-24T01:13:47Z] schra470: AND they are LED so no problems with heat!
[2018-10-24T02:44:12Z] olso6229: Excited for people to see Moon Palace Books tomorrow :)
Experience the NY book art fair / neo-Scholastic books aesthetic first hand
[2018-10-24T02:44:38Z] danks010: :ok_hand:
[2018-10-24T02:44:59Z] danks010: More excited to stop at All Square...
[2018-10-24T02:45:42Z] schra470: I am taking a second car to Moon palace tomorrow, so more people can come! I have room for 4 people if you haven’t secured a ride yet!
[2018-10-24T03:01:53Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-24T03:02:00Z] olso6229: For tape group: photos from conversations on sleep. they had the lamp cords taped to the floor
[2018-10-24T03:14:31Z] mahla008: Ooo neat
[2018-10-24T03:23:51Z] mahla008:
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__a_ i_ I _old you a __ory in a language I _an _ear?
http://www.lizasylvestre.com/__a_-i_-i-_old-you-a-__ory-in-a-language-i-_an-_ear/
[2018-10-24T03:25:45Z] mahla008: I think this is the Artist Boris was talking about today, Liza Sylvestre. In context of audio and redacting. Currently listening to some of her redacted audio work
[2018-10-24T03:27:02Z] mahla008: Definitely give the video a watch, very interesting
[2018-10-24T03:28:56Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-24T03:29:19Z] mahla008: On her website there is even a photo of her at the Weisman
[2018-10-24T03:29:24Z] olso6229: WOW
[2018-10-24T03:29:39Z] kesse046: Target Gallery Episode II: Attack of the Outlets
[2018-10-24T03:29:54Z] olso6229: GOOD CATCH JAKOB !!
[2018-10-24T03:30:12Z] mahla008: Oh she was part of the sensory loss workshop that happened like 3 weeks ago
[2018-10-24T03:30:27Z] mahla008: theres dannys books in the background
[2018-10-24T03:31:02Z] olso6229: Still no one else here saw the photo as far as we know right now
[2018-10-24T03:35:07Z] mahla008: It's really interesting to hear the original story she tells in this video and next to the redacted version, there the same story just in different languages. One as we hear it and one redacted. Kinda similar to the redaction project i posted eariler how what isnt there is just important as what isn't.
[2018-10-24T03:36:50Z] olso6229: funny you sent the stuff about sensory loss / hearing because i was trying to find this just a few minutes before your messages
[2018-10-24T03:36:56Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-24T03:37:52Z] mahla008: wow
[2018-10-24T03:37:58Z] mahla008: thats cool
[2018-10-24T03:38:16Z] mahla008: I wonder if that applies in other ways of sensory loss
[2018-10-24T03:39:22Z] mahla008: Does someone who is deaf view the face in the same way as this paragraph says the way blindness makes you view a face through sound
[2018-10-24T03:40:59Z] olso6229: I wonder
[2018-10-24T03:41:59Z] olso6229: In my tutor/TA days I used to regularly help a guy who was legally blind, we had a machine he used to read assignments which basically just made things 10000x contrast and some zooming
[2018-10-24T03:42:26Z] mahla008: woah what does that look like
[2018-10-24T03:42:35Z] olso6229: If I remember right he had a portable kind of version of that, or it was setup in the classroom, so he could see high contrast silhouettes of the professor and stuff written on the board
[2018-10-24T03:44:08Z] olso6229: Around the same time I knew someone else who was legally deaf and I've seen on social media over the years he's made a lot of posts about his appreciation of film, he probably notices more microexpressions and good acting because of the loss of one sense
[2018-10-24T03:45:07Z] mahla008: wow
[2018-10-24T03:46:08Z] danks010: Thats super cool! Thanks for sharing! It's amazing to realize the ability our senses have, especially when one is lost...glad you followed up on Boris's suggestion Jakob. And thanks for sharing your insight Lee.
[2018-10-24T03:46:44Z] mahla008: Ive never really thought about books in terms of someone who is visually impaired or audio books to someone who is hearing imparied
[2018-10-24T03:47:17Z] olso6229: tactile
[2018-10-24T03:47:29Z] olso6229: what happens when we pay attention to the feel of the books in our hands
[2018-10-24T03:47:41Z] olso6229: does that change how think about presenting them
[2018-10-24T03:47:47Z] mahla008: thats interesting
[2018-10-24T03:48:02Z] mahla008: I don't know but its an interesting question
[2018-10-24T03:49:36Z] mahla008: Does anyone know if they make braille books?
[2018-10-24T03:50:03Z] mahla008: Well I know they do but from what I can see from like a quick amazon search not really that many
[2018-10-24T03:50:15Z] mahla008: Are braille books banned in prison?
[2018-10-24T03:53:55Z] olso6229: what if we made a braille zine
[2018-10-24T03:54:03Z] olso6229: braille manifesto
[2018-10-24T03:54:07Z] mahla008: that sounds hard but cool
[2018-10-24T03:55:49Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-24T03:56:14Z] mahla008: Confirmation the gift and how can I help are at stillwater
[2018-10-24T03:58:39Z] mahla008: I wonder what will happen to them next?
[2018-10-24T04:09:06Z] schra470: That’s so awesome! Gosh I’d love to see who’s hands those books could end up in if they were allowed into the prison library
[2018-10-24T04:14:02Z] mahla008: I hope we get to find out, they are supposed to send me a letter so maybe I will find out soonish
[2018-10-24T04:18:48Z] schra470: Great! Keep us posted :grin: thanks again you guys for doing this, what a cool way to get involved
[2018-10-24T12:25:24Z] batzl015: Super cool stuff Jakob, pretty wild to know Ram Dass is in the hands of the warden.
[2018-10-24T12:50:54Z] olson175: re your question about the deaf and sight, it's def the case that they "hear" some through "seeing" and lip reading requires a sorta expanded sense of reading the different layers of visual information!
[2018-10-24T16:24:11Z] santo204: Is anyone driving to Moon Palace books that I could possibly get a ride with?
[2018-10-24T16:31:12Z] olso6229: Talk to Haley, Sasha, and Kailee
[2018-10-24T16:33:06Z] schra470: what time works for you guys to head out? I can pick you up from wherever!
[2018-10-24T16:33:25Z] olso6229: For all the people going, Moon Palace has a generously sized parking lot FYI
[2018-10-24T16:33:39Z] olso6229: that group is the 4pm squad
[2018-10-24T16:34:08Z] olso6229: Including
[2018-10-24T16:34:21Z] olso6229: And
[2018-10-24T16:37:52Z] schra470: Sweet okay :+1::skin-tone-3: thank you!
[2018-10-24T17:21:40Z] santo204: I’m off work at 3 & can go be ready on campus
[2018-10-24T17:25:39Z] schra470: :+1::skin-tone-3: sounds like I’m picking up a crew from rapson at 4? If anyone wants in for sure, let me know by then!
[2018-10-24T18:10:05Z] santo204: Thank you! I’ll for sure be at Rapson by 4
[2018-10-24T20:10:43Z] watso595: could I get in on that?
[2018-10-24T20:12:06Z] schra470: Yes for sure!
[2018-10-24T20:15:29Z] watso595: Where are we meeting?
[2018-10-24T20:16:11Z] santo204: Let’s just meet in the studio
[2018-10-24T20:16:57Z] schra470: I’m actually at home right now so I’ll just pick you guys up in that new little turn-around thing between the Northrop parking garage and Rapson at 4! I drive a blue Hyundai Elantra
[2018-10-24T20:57:40Z] schra470: Waiting outside rapson!
[2018-10-24T21:11:21Z] mahla008: Got some good books at moon palace u guys might get here before we leave
[2018-10-24T21:16:38Z] olso6229: :crescent_moon::ocean:
[2018-10-24T22:09:57Z] karle029:
[2018-10-24T22:10:26Z] mahla008: Woah
[2018-10-24T22:12:48Z] mahla008: Go check out the Guantanamo diary second floor bargin shelf
[2018-10-24T22:14:45Z] schra470: Love it forward...with balloons
[2018-10-25T04:12:57Z] danks010:
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Handball Saved My Life: A Sport Behind Bars
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp7yyv/handball-saved-my-life-a-sport-behind-bars
[2018-10-25T04:13:20Z] danks010: Insane article about the power of handball in prison.
[2018-10-25T04:41:26Z] danks010: Possibly an overlap area for the tape group and the handball group? Thoughts?
[2018-10-25T16:39:13Z] fasbe023: ok everyone. disregard that first link, here is the link to the AndyG exercise
[2018-10-25T16:39:16Z] fasbe023:
[2018-10-25T17:34:12Z] feria006: Here’s an idea for a plan for a Handball Exposition. Covering each wall and the respective floor space with overlapping handball courts. I think maybe a video or using audio or noise music of different handball sounds coming out of the space.
[2018-10-25T19:48:43Z] olso6229: Oooooo i love the overlapping courts
[2018-10-25T19:49:57Z] olso6229: We’re chasing down light rentals. Sunbelt Rentals is a prime choice for us right now
[2018-10-25T20:34:50Z] olso6229: Filled it :slightly_smiling_face: thanks
[2018-10-25T20:35:19Z] olso6229: Quick update on lights for everyone:
[2018-10-25T20:36:41Z] olso6229: Sunbelt Rentals has 6 balloon lights ready to go, no minimum quantity for rental, fine to use indoor at the museum, no foreseeable problems with the outlets and power draw/breakers. Sunbelt’s warehouse/supply is off of 35E and Hennepin, about 5-10 min north of the U campus.
Colten is going to Menards and Home Depot this weekend to check out the light rental situation.
Parker is still waiting for campus facilities to get back to him.
We're also looking into Powermoon LED balloon lights.
Other ideas? Anything we missed? :slightly_smiling_face:
[2018-10-25T20:37:24Z] olso6229: Powermoon lights can be set up / torn down in less than 5 minutes
[2018-10-25T20:39:06Z] olso6229: They also match Danny's comment about blue-grey enamel paint in prisons.
[2018-10-25T21:34:33Z] douga018: Here's the Handball Tape Layout that we ended on in class today.
[2018-10-26T02:52:31Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-26T02:52:40Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-26T02:52:46Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-26T02:52:52Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-26T02:53:09Z] mahla008: Redaction Groups - Black out poetry
[2018-10-26T02:53:33Z] mahla008: If you are interested and want to do some black out poetry attached is the word document
[2018-10-26T02:53:46Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-26T05:20:59Z] danks010: Really Powerful Poetry! Fascinated with each iteration from each person. Nice Work Redaction Group!
[2018-10-26T05:21:05Z] danks010: :+1::+1:
[2018-10-26T16:03:26Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-27T00:03:12Z] olso6229: Open invitation for a library visit next week to American Craft Council
[2018-10-27T00:04:04Z] mahla008: Memememe
[2018-10-27T00:10:36Z] olso6229: I have a photo of myself with some friends with this ROLU project from 2012. Also the executive director at american craft council used to be the Curator of Public Practice and Director of Education at the Walker Art Center. do you have any memories / stories about Sarah, either from this project, Fritz Haeg’s residency, or otherwise?
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Visiting Lecture: Sarah Schultz, Walker Art Center, Wide Open Public - The Contemporary Austin
https://www.thecontemporaryaustin.org/event/visiting-lecture-sarah-schultz-wide-open-public/
[2018-10-27T00:51:29Z] olso6229:
[2018-10-27T02:39:03Z] mahla008:
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The Vault
https://vault.fbi.gov/
[2018-10-27T02:39:14Z] mahla008:
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National Security Archive
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/
[2018-10-27T02:40:07Z] mahla008: For anyone interested in redacted documents, two websites with a database of governmental redacted documents ranging from alot of things. Mostly due to the freedom of information act
[2018-10-27T02:49:43Z] mahla008: Heres one example, they are just really neat to look at
[2018-10-27T02:55:39Z] mahla008: Last one -
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Projections — Jenny Holzer
http://projects.jennyholzer.com/projections
[2018-10-27T02:56:03Z] mahla008: Jenny Holzer does cool stuff with sign painting and redaction, with projects and scrolling text
[2018-10-27T02:57:46Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-27T02:58:19Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-27T03:00:04Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-27T03:00:38Z] olso6229: the quotes on the stone benches at the walker garden are her work, also check out her “truisms”
[2018-10-27T03:00:50Z] mahla008:
[2018-10-27T03:01:20Z] mahla008: I love her projection work, i never knew she did redaction stuff
[2018-10-27T03:02:21Z] mahla008: Oh yeah, i was litteraly just looking at the "truisms"
[2018-10-27T03:17:48Z] mahla008: At the UMN reuse center 30$
[2018-10-27T03:19:42Z] olso6229: We want something wayyyyy taller, like 9’
[2018-10-27T03:20:03Z] mahla008: phhf
[2018-10-27T03:20:15Z] mahla008: get an extender
[2018-10-27T03:21:02Z] mahla008: Like that babys gotta be at least 8'
[2018-10-27T03:34:15Z] mahla008: I'm still gonna go tomorrow at like noon and see what they got, anyone is welcome to join
[2018-10-27T09:39:06Z] olson175: I remember everything!
[2018-10-27T11:25:38Z] olson175: just sent an email. make sure you read as soon as you can. THX!
[2018-10-27T13:46:23Z] olso6229: WHEW, it’s GO time :stopwatch::woman_climbing:
[2018-10-27T13:48:01Z] olson175: "Plant Seeds with Care"
If we act constructively, happiness will ensue; if we act destructively, problems will result…We create the causes by our actions, and we experience their results.
—Ven. Thubten Chodron, from “What Is Karma?”
[2018-10-27T15:01:32Z] olso6229: Alright, what’s the weekend scoop? Where’s everyone at? :nerd_face:
What all is on our plate? Benches, shelves, lights, tape, balloons, performance, redaction, outreach, proposal document? Did I miss anything?
do we have ideas for tape color/material? what type of tape won't leave an adhesive residue? What effect will a matte or glossy tape have when it interacts with the lights? Can we borrow or rent from anyone, or is it easier to buy? Maybe the theatre dept. at Rarig will be kind to us? Either way, they probably have some interesting and unexpected advice for us. :slightly_smiling_face:
+ + Is there a way to incorporate redaction into the larger conversation of what we're doing? Does it become part of the Target Gallery space? A performance outside of or within in WAM? If you're interested in opening it up as a larger conversation, I can connect you with Jen of MPWW and/or Junauda of Free Black Dirt?
Can our redaction poetry become part of a zine issue or Tumblr?
+ + Anything new on the balloon front? Is there the potential to combine the redaction group's work and balloons? LOVE balloons? A balloon performance?
Can handball and balloons tie together? Any ideas with the tape group for a handball event in WAM? How do we get the word out on this? :slightly_smiling_face:
is going to Re-use today to possibly pick up test lights
is checking out Menards + Home Depot for light rentals
and I are checking with light rental companies.
is it better to hold off on the Goldsworthy performance until after the 14th?
and , can you coordinate with Kevin / Justin / whomever about time in the shops? I see on the calendar there are BDA (box problem+dimensional color), PDES, GDES, and furniture classes that will flood the shop soon. It looks like afternoons are a bad time for us?
+ + can we get some mockup bench/shelf masses made to test in WAM alongside lights? Something simple made from scrap material? I think it’ll be great to use those to inform lighting and tape placement. :slightly_smiling_face:
And for everyone, can we follow the mantra Danny learned from his sculpture professor and passed on to us, “How much can I take away from this before it becomes something else? Peel it away to the most powerful elements.” Danny asks if we can keep it open, graceful, and thoughtful? Place-making and experiential qualities are our tools.
How can we peel the layers of everything we're doing to their most authentic, powerful, and essential parts? Simplicity comes after complexity.
[2018-10-27T15:03:53Z] olson175: Holy shite! (Irish accent) Lee. Psyched. This is a team. Thanks!
[2018-10-27T15:07:22Z] olson175: I'm sorta obsessing about this image/idea? It feels punk... and maybe a little post-Habitability? So I love the aesthetics. It would be really easy to make a version of something based on this. It would be incredibly cheap. And thanks Lee for invoking what Danny said about reduction... because this is simple. Thoughts?
[2018-10-27T15:10:28Z] olson175: Benches made from 14" tall sliced Sonotubes... ready-mix bags... Simpson strong ties for piers to elevate off the footing... or maybe we could custom make some more formal ones like in this pic? Then some sort of matching bookshelves or book presentation objects on casters? (Didn't someone mention A-frames at some point? maybe?
[2018-10-27T15:10:59Z] batzl015: Moving with the complex->simple mantra seems to be the way
[2018-10-27T15:11:14Z] olson175: Maybe some redacted text prints on tubes?
[2018-10-27T15:11:24Z] batzl015: I think we’re getting there with what we were doing on Thursday but I think it still needs something else
[2018-10-27T15:12:26Z] olso6229: I totally get and love sonotube seating from a time/material/construction POV. Stay fluid, right? I feel it’s honest to Danny and the essence of his work/subject matter, and will evoke the feelings we’re going after. As a bonus: the clarity/strength of this + smaller budget + less shop time is a WIN+WIN+WIN between Boris, WAM, Gayla, the Rapson shops, and (of course) us
[2018-10-27T15:12:37Z] olson175: This wouldn't require the shop as much either
[2018-10-27T15:13:35Z] olso6229: What're you feeling, chief?
[2018-10-27T15:15:23Z] batzl015: I need to work it a little more. Would you be down to get together today to throw down? Maybe get a large group formed to go hard on design?
[2018-10-27T15:16:11Z] batzl015: I like a triple win option
[2018-10-27T15:16:45Z] batzl015: When can we all get together today or tomorrow? Does a when to meet work?
[2018-10-27T15:17:53Z] olso6229: Let's go chief
[2018-10-27T15:18:09Z] olso6229: Can you set up the W2M link?
[2018-10-27T15:20:12Z] olso6229: I can meet both today and tomorrow
[2018-10-27T15:23:33Z] schra470: I am very free!
[2018-10-27T15:25:40Z] boris: Hello people. Just noting it here that I do not monitor what happens on slack. If you need a response from me please send an email (or text if it's urgent)
[2018-10-27T15:26:09Z] olso6229: Thank you for the heads up, Boris :slightly_smiling_face:
[2018-10-27T15:28:05Z] batzl015: Do y’all want to meet at some point around noon?
[2018-10-27T15:28:34Z] olso6229: Yes
[2018-10-27T15:28:37Z] batzl015: Idk what we would do but there’s a lot to do, so we’ll figure it out
[2018-10-27T15:28:47Z] olso6229: Totally :+1:
[2018-10-27T15:29:06Z] batzl015: I’ll prob bring lunch/a snack if people wanna bring food for a throwdown
[2018-10-27T15:29:12Z] batzl015: Meet in studio?
[2018-10-27T15:30:04Z] olso6229: BDA it is chief
[2018-10-27T15:30:43Z] schra470: Yeah I’m in!
[2018-10-27T15:31:18Z] watso595: I’ll be in the laser lab so if you guys could fill me in or wanna meet down there that’d be cool
[2018-10-27T15:31:27Z] olso6229: can you make a meeting post with location+time back into the general chat? :slightly_smiling_face:
[2018-10-27T15:32:03Z] batzl015: Sure! Would an email be helpful too?
[2018-10-27T15:32:15Z] olso6229: What number can we contact you at?
[2018-10-27T15:32:23Z] schra470: Definitely
[2018-10-27T15:35:07Z] batzl015: Hey, who can should come to the BDA studio at noon today to throw down on all parts of our project.
Urgency is high, but so is energy!
We will likely have to meet tomorrow as well, so keep posted if today is full for you.
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