#deposing nathan

[lonesomedotmp3]

all the women in gay male media are always extremely cool and fun and slay like sorry to gay guys but hooray feminism!!!!

[peachy-panic]

What are your top ten whumpy book recommendations?

Top 10, you say? How about a comprehensive list of every half decent whumpy book I've read in the last 3 years? (I tried to balance the order between my overall love for the book and the whumpiness level)

BLANKET TW FOR THESE BOOKS: noncon, abuse, domestic violence, med whump, lab whump religious trauma, institutionalized abuse

WHUMPY BOOK RECS

TOP 10

The Tarot Sequence - K.D. Edwards (series, ongoing)

Winter’s Orbit - Everina Maxwell

How To Bang A Billionaire - Alexis Hall (trilogy, complete)

The Darkness Outside Us - Eliot Schrefer (will rip your heart out)

All For The Game - Nora Sakavic (trilogy, complete)

Dark Room Etiquette - Robin Roe

HappyHead - Josh Silver (sequel in progress)

All That’s Left in the World - Erik J. Brown

The Gentleman’s Guide to Vice & Virtue - Mackenzi Lee

Stars in Your Eyes - Kacen Callender (releases in October 2023)

OTHER RECS:

- We Are The Ants - Shaun David Hutchinson

- Tonight We Rule the World - Zack Smedley

- The Lookback Window - Kyle Dillon Hertz (just finished!)

- Dark Space - Lisa Henry (trilogy, currently reading)

- First, Become Ashes - K.M. Sparza

- Parker - Jack Harbon

- A Strange and Stubborn Endurance - Foz Meadows

- Docile - K.M. Sparza (BBU vibes)

- Into the Light - Mark Oshiro

- Young Mungo - Douglas Stuart

- A List of Cages - Robin Roe (minor main character)

- Deposing Nathan - Zack Smedley (minor main character)

- How to Bite Your Neighbor and Win a Wager - D.N. Bryn

- Mysterious Skin - Scott Heim

- Surrender Your Sons - Adam Sass

- Yes, Daddy - Jonathan Parks-Ramage

- Not Quite Out - Louise Willingham

- Runner - Parker Williams

- Fraternity - Andy Mientus

- A Little Life - Hanya Yanagihara (honestly… maybe don't read this)

LADY WHUMP:

- They Never Learn - Layne Fargo

- The Girls I’ve Been - Tess Sharpe

- I’m The Girl - Courtney Summers

- Girls of Paper and Fire - Natasha Ngan

- We Set the Dark on Fire - Tehlor Kay Mejia (there’s a sequel)

[possumcollege]

Tumblr just fed me a repost thread where someone responded to a meme that said "The Right gave us the Klan and the Left gave us weekends" with this extremely broken nugget of US history. 👇

🌈 This is horseshit.

1: In the 1860s, under what US historians call the Third Party System Republicans were what we would call "progressive" and Democrats were the "conservative" party.

Lincoln was a Republican, as were many Americans who called for the abolition of slavery. Lincoln stated that he was not personally in favor of total abolition and emancipation but he did believe regulation of slavery was a power of the federal government as opposed to state governments. Democrats of the Reconstruction Era favored strict moral legislation against race mixing, opposed citizenship and voting rights for African Americans, and largely opposed the expansion of Federal powers over the individual states.

It's honest-to-god not that hard to understand that American political parties haven't always been the exact same parties they are today. I can't help it if no one ever taught them this but it isn't an obscure or contested piece of information. Anybody trotting this shit out as a dunk on contemporary Democrats is either wrong or lying.

2: The Klan was never a "Leftist Anarchist alternative to law enforcement"

The concept of organized State law enforcement was barely a thing in the South at that time. Most southern law enforcemement consisted of slave patrols mustered from state militias, tasked with finding and capturing runaways, and preventing large-scale slave rebellions like the French experienced in the Caribbean. Slave patrols were abolished after the Civil War and officers were instead charged with enforcing "Jim Crow" laws under Reconstruction. Many of the Klan's tactics were literally the unofficial, vigilante continuation of practices that were legal for slave patrols. At no point were organized "law enforcement" and the Klan working at cross purposes. They both sought to maintain the social order through violent enforcement of white supremacy, the klan just wasn't an official agent of the state.

Anarchists may seek to operate without centralized state authority, but vigilantes are not inherently "Anarchists" because they're ungoverned. By that reasoning, children fighting on the playground are Anarchists.

White Supremacy is itself antithetical to central Anarchist principles, which call for a society based on voluntary participation, free of social heirarchy, or rule-by-force.

3: Whether they know it or not, when someone says that the Klan formed as any kind of peacekeeping force, they are parroting Pro-Klan propaganda.

There are 3 distinct, widely accepted eras of organizations calling themselves the KKK. The first is the most relevant as it formed during Reconstruction in the immediate aftermath of the American Civil War. It began when a number of young Southern men and Confederate veterans took it upon themselves to terrorize and intimidate newly-free African Americans by raiding homes and businesses, destroying property, harassing black communities, and murdering black leaders, organizers, and their allies.

The first iterations of the Klan were heavily influenced by a growing fascination with fraternal orders and secret societies in America during that era. They cribbed heavily from another secret society, the Knights of the Golden Circle, (the Klan's name came from the Greek word for "circle") who hoped to establish a new county around the legality of slavery. This country would've included the states of the CSA, Mexico, Cuba, the islands of the Caribbean, and parts of Central/ South America.

Claims that the Klan existed to oust Scalawags, Carpetbaggers and other Northern opportunists (often said to be Jews and Catholics) who rushed in to fill the vacuum of deposed Southern leadership doesn't emerge until 1868-69 when Nathan Bedford Forrest was formally elected as their first (holy fucking shit 🤦‍♂️) "Grand Wizard."

(this absolute dipshit)

These retroactive narratives were further amplified in the 1880s-90s as Lost Cause rhetoric began to gain momentum among those sympathetic to the confederacy, white supremacists, and those seeking to profit off the continued disenfranchisement of African Americans as cheap prison labor.

These tales of masked men protecting downtrodden southern whites from the grasping, predatory Yankee Carpetbaggers were further enshrined as founding myths of the second Klan, in Georgia in 1915. It remains a popular Whitewashing narrative to this day.

I do not give half a proud southern shit what the guys who were scamming their buddies into buying official Klan dishes in the 20s said the Klan was about. Those actually existed btw. I don't have to give Forrest's claims any more weight than I give Spencer's claims on the motivation of neo-nazis.

Spencer got exactly what both of them deserved when he got socked in the head on TV.

[richmond-rex]

Hi there

So I follow the Tudor Trio and Nicola Tallis, Matthew Lewis and Nathan Amin were doing a debate today on the Princes in the Tower with the quote on quote new evidence that has been revealed from Philippa Langley.

I still firmly believe Richard III killed the Princes and find many of Matthew Lewis' arguments bizarre. I'm not sure why he thinks the Princes weren't a threat to Richard but were to Henry VII. If the Princes weren't a threat to Richard then why would they have been a threat to Henry VII? I can't understand why Richard would ever let them escape England of his own free Will. There is almost no chance they could have escaped without him knowing about it.

Also he claimed that Henry VII sent Elizabeth Woodville to Bermondsey Abbey and that she was supporting the Lambert Simnel Rebellion. Is there any truth to that? Thanks!

Hi, sorry for taking so long to reply! Lewis' arguments are so incredibly ridiculous — they largely rest on accepting at face value people's signatures and on the claim that Maximilian and Margaret of York were too blue-blooded to ever lie for political ends: essentially, he claims lying was for peasants. And yes, the princes would absolutely be a threat to Richard III as he found out as soon as he left London after his coronation — there happened a rebellion made by former Edwardian servants that aimed to free the princes from the Tower, very possibly to restore them to the throne. The princes had been raised all their lives to regard the English throne as their birthright — you're telling me they would grow up abroad and would neve try a restoration aided by one of England's political enemies such as France?

The ricardian claim that Richard III sent them to Burgundy is incredibly ridiculous to me as well: even if they stayed with Richard's sister, she wasn't the one ruling Burgundy — Maximilian of Austria, the husband of Margaret's deceased daughter-in-law, was. How could Richard be sure Maximilian wouldn't take the princes the minute Richard did something that went against Maximilian's interests and use them to either blackmail him or depose him so Maximilian could have his own English king? Burgundy had displayed lancastrian loyalties not so long ago in the past and the political game in Europe changed constantly.

It would have been absolutely STUPID of Richard III to deliver the strongest weapon anyone could use against him to a foreign power. Let's also mention that Maximilian at the time was struggling with controlling his own children, the actual Burgundian heirs, because some Flemish cities had rebelled against him and had his heir (Philip of Burgundy) in their power and were up in arms against his regency. From June 1483 to July 1485 Maximilian couldn't have control of his own son. You're telling me Richard would have sent the biggest assets anyone could use against him to that unstable scenario?

The truth is that Ricardians like Matthew Lewis benefit from the fact that people study/know about the Wars of the Roses from an impossibly anglocentric lens, ignoring that the conflict was also the outcome of the multiple iterations of power play between Western European powers: 'the Wars of the Roses were an extended episode in a European conflict, not just a murderous private dispute'. It really is inconceivable, when it comes down to logic, how Richard was one step ahead of everyone during the mounting off to his takeover of the throne (bamboozling and imprisoning the Woodvilles, executing and imprisoning Edward V's strongest supporters such as Hastings) but would commit such a basic political error as sending other claimants to his own crown to a foreign power.

As to Elizabeth Woodville going to Bermondsey Abbey as a way of punishment for her supporting a rebellion against Henry VII, it makes little sense as well. Henry VII carried on with the marriage negotiations with Scotland that involved Elizabeth and two of her daughters until James III's death in 1488. Again, it would make little sense for Henry VII to have found out Elizabeth was conspiring against him but keep wanting to send her north as an ally to Scotland, a country that could easily make war on him and create problems. Why would he deliver an enemy into the hands of another possible enemy, if Elizabeth truly conspired against him? Again, it's the lack of perspective into Europe and international politics that jump out in Lewis' logic.

Do my words make sense to you? I truly cannot comprehend how Lewis can say the stuff he says and no one really contradicts him in his logic.

[lgbtqreads]

Do you have any recs where the protagonist believes they are straight but then discover their bisexuality after falling in love with the same gender person?

I wrote one, even! https://bookshop.org/a/2228/9781250888471

A few others I love: Imogen, Obviously by Becky Albertalli, Deposing Nathan by Zack Smedley, and Red, White & Royal Blue, by Casey McQuiston

[aledethanlast]

Okay but like if you think about it, Neil's surviving Baltimore isn't all pure luck. That is to say, it's only 30% luck. The other 70% is everyone else involved in that catastrophe royally fucking up, jumping the gun, or being generally bad at their jobs.

Like, Nathan gets out of prison, and priority 1 is to reestablish his presence as fast as possible. He needs to prove to Kengo that he's still in the game and doesn't need to be replaced with someone who doesn't get caught.

Except Kengo is dying. Hiding it, but definitely dying. Meaning his comeback has a VERY short deadline.

And then Riko, who has been running around using yakuza resources for personal grudges unchecked, hands him his son on a silver platter. Christmas come late.

And then...he waits? I can only assume Nathan spends two months tormenting Neil with that countdown because that was the earliest he could orchestrate a meeting with both Kengo and Ichirou, where he intended to present Nathaniel's severed head on a literal silver platter, and thus prove his worth to his old boss, and secure his favor with the incoming.

Except knowing that the feds were watching the house apparently didn't extend to knowing that they HIRED HIS BROTHER IN LAW TO KILL HIM CIA STYLE.

(Which also??? Hello???)

Well they do that, and don't even realize that Nathan didn't put up a fight because he was busy trying to kill the best witness against him until the guy physically walks up to them and says so. And then the gjy starts being contrarian and they guy huffy but whatever. That's a minor problem for them. Their big concern is closing this case in a nice bow without the DoJ ever finding out what they did. Or worse, the press.

Meanwhile...the Moriyamas. We have only the tiniest glimpse of what was happening inside that family, but I am sure of one thing: Ichirou's ascension to the throne was NOT a peaceful transition of power. Kengo refusing to step away gracefully, covering up hospitalizations, he likely held on to power until the very last second, denying his son the time and space to secure the loyalty of their generals in advance.

So now Kengo is dead, right-hand man not only gone but his network ripped apart by carrion, and he needs to cauterize every bleeding limb before he's caught, challenged, or deposed. He is PANICKING.

By the time he gets to Palmetto, and Neil says "Don't look at me, I'm the one person in this fiasco who knows their place", Ichirous internal response is little more than "Oh thank God."

[bensbooks]

Hello ♡ Do you have any underrated bisexual books you'd recommend?

Hi!

I'm incredibly bad at remembering/noting down the specific queer rep in the books I read, however I have gone through my spreadsheet and tried to find ones that people have tagged 'bi' on goodreads. These are all books I've read and enjoyed (given a 3.5 rating or higher).

A Light Amongst Shadows by Kelley York and Rowan Altwood (~1000 ratings)

Deposing Nathan by Zack Smedley (~1900 ratings)

Lighter by A. Aduma (~30 ratings)

The Law of Inertia by Sophie Gonzales (~400 ratings)

Hold by Rachel Davidson Leigh (~150 ratings)

The Edge of Being by James Brandon (~150 ratings)

There Is a Light by Ban Gilmartin (~350 ratings)

Boomerang by Helene Dunbar (~130 ratings)

[still-single]

Heathen Disco updates

The most recent shows are as below. Maybe you'd like to listen.

Show #326 (Feb 12, 2023)

HOUR 1

James Brown – Stone to the Bone

The Supremes – Stoned Love

The Chi-Lites – Stoned Out of My Mind

Clark-Hutchinson – Free to Be Stoned

Nathan Salsburg – XIV

Black Sabbath – A National Acrobat

Cheater Slicks – Fear

The Drin – Mozart on the Wing

Come – Recidivist

FACS – When You Say

Equipment Pointed Ankh – Paper Sink

Del the Funky Homosapien – Eye Examination

HOUR 2

De La Soul – Held Down

Lyn Collins – Think About It (Live at the Apollo)

Quix*o*tic – Tell It Like It Is

Crushed – Coil

The Passions – Runaway

Mamitri Yulith Empress Yonagunisan – Gala Saver

Heavy Blanket – Danny

Miaow – Fate

Central Line – Walking Into Sunshine

Gina X Performance – No G.D.M.

Goblin – Roller

Doom Flower – The Space

Yo La Tengo – Brain Capers

HOUR 3

Oneida – Paralyzed

3rd Bass – 3rd Bass Theme A.K.A. Portrait of the Artist as a Hood

Casa Nostra – Insomnia (extended mix)

Detroit Emeralds – Feel the Need

Ramsey Lewis Trio – Opus #5 / Uhuru

Exploratorium – Number 09

Show #325 (Feb 5, 2023)

Art Ensemble of Chicago – Funky AECO

Mutamassik – Wishik

Lifted – Total Care Zero

Shizuka – Plan for Solitude

Beau Wanzer – A Burrowing Booboo

Nuovo Testamento – Heat

The Invincible Limit – Push (New Mix)

Experimental Products – Glowing in the Dark

Miss Nude – Taste My Acid Fruit

Syamese – Drum

Portion Control – Go Talk

Equipment Pointed Ankh – Port of Indiana

Echo & the Bunnymen – The Subject

Q Lazzarus – Goodbye Horses (Demo 2)

Nun – In Blood

Six Finger Satellite – Where Humans Go

Iggy Pop – Funtime

Terry – Gold Duck

SUSS – Ash Fork, AZ

Glyders – Maria’s Hunt

The House of Love – Road

The Loft – Your Door Shines Like Gold

Celibates – Coming Alone

Marcie’s Still Waiting – For You (Not For You)

Shinichi Atobe – First Plate 3

Th’ Blisks – A Salve

Dippers – Looking for a Sphere Pt. 1

Ulaan Passerine – Light of Lights

Adonis – No Way Back

Kraze – The Party (Original Mix)

Paul Johnson – After Dark

Tirzah – Sink In (Actress remix)

Om Unit – Pursuit

Show #324 (Jan 29, 2013)

Tom Verlaine – Souvenir from a Dream

Love Child – Stumbling Block

Love – Softly to Me

Owen Maercks – Intense Young Man

Television – Marquee Moon (1974 demo)

Peace Regime – untitled

Skull Practitioners – Intruder

Temple – Heathen

Rancid X – Old Sex Queen

X – I Don’t Wanna Go Out

Beau Wanzer – A Dead Person’s Monologue

The Real Kids – Nowadaze Kids

Holy Tongue – Spirit Mask

Sleaford Mods – UK Grim

Miss Lie – Depression

Exhaustion – Old Mickey

Midnight Mines – Hollow Sky

Primal Scream – All Fall Down

Virgin Prunes – Baby Turns Blue

The C.I.A. – Better

Exploded View – You Got a Problem, Son

Violet French and the Horrible – I Want the Sky to Be Crying

Dippers – Looking for a Sphere Pt. 2

Blatant Dissent – Eleven Days

Circus Lupus – New Cop Car

Lush – Nothing Natural

The Fall – Y.F.O.C. / Slippy Floor

Obe – untitled

Sightless Pit – Calcified Glass

The Ex – Evolution

Oozing Wound – Hypnic Jerk

Nitzer Ebb – Captivate

George Brigman & Split – Blowin’ Smoke

Meg Baird – Star Hill Song

Equipment Pointed Ankh – From Inside the House

Dalibor Cruz – Depose the Influencer

Manuel Göttsching – E2-E4 side A

[wulf1]

SO, BIDEN/HARRIS USED YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO BRING NATHAN WADE TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO INSTRUCT HIM HOW THEY WANTED FANNY WILLIS TO POLITICALLY PROSECUTE PRESIDENT TRUMP

AND NATHAN WADE DOES NOT REMEMBER HIS MEETING AT THE WHITEHOUSE.

I WONDER WHY NOT?

[garudabluffs]

Trump ATTACK on Georgia Prosecutor NOW A MASSIVE FLOP

Jan 30, 2024 Champagne corks are popping across America: the nightmare that is the Fulton County special Trump prosecutor Nathan Wade’s divorce is finally over! Michael Popok of Legal AF reports on a settlement reached between Mr Wade which will prevent MAGA from getting to depose his boss Fulton County DA Fani Willis, and will likely lead to the criminal judge quickly denying the efforts by Trump and his co co conspirators to dismiss the Georgia indictment.

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[mavrustheunskooled]

12 and 17!

12: any books that disappointed you?

BEHOLDER - RYAN LA SALA

I was going to do a couple but I actually can’t bc this book disappointed me So much. I heard So many good things about The Honeys, and I was so excited to get a galley of Beholder, but then it was Bad

17: did any books surprise you with how good they were?

Crying in H Mart - Michelle Zauner (two of my bookstore coworkers really didn’t like this one, but it made me Sob)

Deposing Nathan - Zack Smedley (I can’t believe this book is out of stock indefinitely rn— everyone go hunt down a copy bc it’s ridiculous)

The Only Girl in Town - Ally Condie (I didn’t know if the author of Matched could get me now that I’m no longer her target audience, but this book is Fantastic and I got it signed by her and Ughh it’s so good)

send me a book ask! if you want!

[jjjhree]

new fav author?

the anxiety I feel when reading Zach Smedley’s books is consuming me from the inside out but I love her books (I know he’s a man I just call her her cuz it’s a bit I had)

anyways if you want to read his books I think he only has two..?

Deposing Nathan (idk two friends now friends anymore because one’s going to jail. Just started reading this one btw)

Tonight We Rule the World (boy goes to front office for an assault report. Lots of twists and turns and trust me you will want to burn the book while putting it on a pedestal at the same time)

good luck

[boyapologist]

I think the only book I actually remember is deposing nathan

[cerimonials]

rules: tag 9 people you want to get to know better. I was tagged by @ripdragonbeans We'll see how this goes!

Last Song: Why Stay/A Promise from Next to Normal (I was revisiting the album on the bus ride home.

last show: Rupaul's Drag Race Season 12 (I'd already seen it but I was binging it the other week. I forgot how funny Jaida really is! Nothing but respect for my queen)

Last movie: Puss in Boots: The Last Wish

currently watching: Nothing, but ask me again in a few months when I finally cave and watch Abbott Elementary

currently reading: Deposing Nathan by Zack Smedley

current obsession: As much as my friends might expect me to say Puss in Boots, my actual obsession is Unprepared Casters. It's a fantastic D&D podcast with a revolving cast and revolving characters, all designed for the listener to be able to jump into any arc without feeling lost or getting overwhelmed. AND they're starting to make video episodes on their lowest patreon tier starting with the newest arc! Arc 12 is just about to start and they're bringing back the lesbian cat burglars, and I audibly gasped at my good fortune when I saw the announcement trailer. Now's the perfect time to get into it if I've peaked your fancy, wink wink, nudge nudge.

No pressure tags, and I'm definitely not going to be tagging 9 people, sorry "rules" : @talkabout-the-weather @ranubis

[lgbtqreads]

i'm seeing way too much biphobia irl & online this pride month. i have a 2 part rec ask. can you recommend me 1) books with bi characters where biphobia is discussed? 2) books with bi4bi rep (any gender is fine).

(i'm looking for something like perfect on paper but where the biphobia is more at the center of the story. and i've read i'll be the one & xeni for bi4bi rep. i've also read hani & ishu, highly suspicious & unfairly cute & other popular books with bi characters so i wanted some underrated recs).

Sure, try Imogen, Obviously by Becky Albertalli, Deposing Nathan by Zack Smedley, Cool for the Summer by Dahlia Adler, Verona Comics by Jennifer Dugan (and Love at First Set, in adult), One Kiss With a Rock Star by Amber Lin and Shari Slade, and The Perfect Crimes of Marian Hayes by Cat Sebastian.

[bensbooks]

Underrated 2019: Deposing Nathan

Nate never imagined that he would be attacked by his best friend, Cam. Now, Nate is being called to deliver a sworn statement that will get Cam convicted. The problem is, the real story isn’t that easy or convenient—just like Nate and Cam’s friendship. Cam challenged Nate on every level from the day the boys met. He pushed him to break the rules, to dream, and to accept himself. But Nate—armed with a fierce moral code and conflicted by his own beliefs—started to push back. With each push, Nate and Cam moved closer to each other—but also spiraled closer to their breaking points.