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Hi guys, I'm still on my Neverafter AU (batfam X horror fairy tales) bs and I've cast almost all of the batfam members I know well enough to cast, and I have a little conundrum when it comes to Babs.
I'm hesitating between Vasilia from Vasilia and Prince Vladimir, and the Fairy Queen from The Wild Swans. I will say that in any case this AU retains her core personality traits and she will be a wheelchair user, though because the story in the AU takes place after the end of the fairy tale that doesn't mean she would be in the wheelchair during the fairy tale itself.
Vasilia Pros: Vasilia is an absolute icon. When her husband gets captured, she disguises herself, beats the Prince's troops in wrestling and defeats him in chess to win back his safety- a badass heroin from a tale that I will definitely read to my children, and pretty fitting for Babs' Batgirl og era!
Vasilia Cons: As iconic as Vasilia is, I'm hesitant because she does these amazing things to save her husband, and it's frustrating how many fairy tales with clever women are centered around romantic love as the main motivator. If I were to go down this route, I would counter this issue by changing "save her husband" for "save her dad" and make Jim Gordon in need of rescue.
Fairy Queen pros: So, in the Neverafter AU, fairies are powerful beings who enforce and protect the story by giving great boons or curses. As an archetypical unnamed character, she could appear amidst many stories to give a boon, which feels very fitting to how powerful Oracle is and the image of Oracle popping in someone else's comic, dumping the lore that will make the plot move forward and going back to her CIA-hacking duties. Furthermore, as a Neverafter Fairy, she would have a lot more meta knowledge of the narrative and different worlds, making her a magical information broker. This would also allow me to give lore basis to her relationship with Cass, who I am casting as Princess Elisa from the Wild Swans, which is a nice bonus.
Fairy Queen cons: Neverafter fairies, good or bad, are enforcers of the narrative, because they are (rightfully) afraid of the collapse of words and see no other alternative than keeping the story in its bounds. That feels a little cop-ish, and definitely doesn't sit right with my perception of Barbara's relationship to autonomy and self-determination. I would counter that issue by making her a Rogue Fairy who had that arc of deciding she can't let her fear of the Authors rule and limit her, and had turned her back on the other fairies at the beginning of the story.
(also if anyone has suggestions for the Bruce and Tim casting because i am NOT finding anything for them, I'll take it please!!)
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RED AND BLACK TOURNAMENT: ROUND ONE UNDERWAY
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Round one matchups under the cut!!
Bracket 1
Ruby Rose (RWBY) vs. Vanitas (Kingdom Hearts)
Mello (Death Note) vs. Rhaenyra Targaryern (House of the Dragon)
Kuga Yuma (World Trigger) vs. Kiki (Kiki’s Delivery Service)
Clifford (Clifford the Big Red Dog) vs. Dracula (Castlevania)
Kai Satou (Your Turn to Die) vs. Ladybugs/Ladybirds (real life)
Zuko (Avatar: the Last Airbender) vs. Kuro (Katamari)
Kate (Shadows House) vs. The Cat (Ghost Trick)
Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch (Marvel comics) vs. Red X (Teen Titans)
Elric of Melniboné (The Elric Saga/Michael Moorcock’s Eternal Champion Multiverse) vs. Naomi Armitage (Armitage the Third)
Alucard (Hellsing Ultimate) vs. Keith Kogane (Voltron: Legendary Defenders)
Lance (Sym Bionic Titan) vs. Panpeus (Gitaroo Man)
Six-Eared Macaque (Lego Monkie Kid) vs. Flick (Animal Crossing)
Watchdog (Jupiter-Men) vs. Crowley (Good Omens)
Eye of Sauron (Lord of the Rings) vs. Ylfa Snorgelsson (Dimension 20: Neverafter)
Razer (Jak X: Combat Racing) vs. Kieran Valentine (Monster High: Why Do Ghouls Fall In Love?)
Wei Wuxian (The Untamed/MDZS) vs. Giant Horse (Breath of the Wild)
Shadow the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) vs. Black Sonichu/Blake (CWC’s Sonichu)
Sailor Mars (Sailor Moon) vs. The Toy Soldier (The Mechanisms)
Ada Wong (Resident Evil) vs. Jack Spicer (Xiaolin Showdown)
Tophat (The Nightly Manor) vs. Marceline the Vampire Queen (Adventure Time)
Parr Family/The Incredibles (The Incredibles) vs. Pioneer 9 (17776 and 20020)
Guilmon (Digimon) vs. Julian Devorak (The Arcana)
Miles Edgeworth (Ace Attorney) vs. Sundancer (Worm - Parahumans)
HAL 9000 (2001: A Space Oddyssey) vs. Eas (Fresh Precure)
Harley Quinn (DC comics) vs. Itachi Uchiha (Naruto)
Scorpia (She-ra and the Princesses of Power) vs. Redcloak (Order of the Stick)
Scarlet Kingsnake (real life) vs. Hornet (Hollow Knight)
Maka Albarn (Soul Eater) vs. Toa Tahu (Bionicle)
Thorn (Scooby Doo and the Witch’s Ghost) vs. Litten (Pokémon)
Maned Wolf (real life) vs. Orko (He-Man)
Rebecca Rubin (American Girl Dolls) vs. Lucifer (Obey Me)
Death the Wolf/The Wolf/Lobo/Death etc. (Puss in Boots: the Last Wish) vs. Joker (Persona 5) Bracket 2
Miles Morales/Spiderman (Marvel comics) vs. Cynder (Spyro)
Edelgard von Hresvelg (Fire Emblem franchise) vs. Sanguine (The Elder Scrolls)
Artegor Nexus (Galactik Football) vs. Beidou (Genshin Impact)
Barb (Trolls) vs. Mao Mao (Mao Mao Heroes of Pure Heart)
Wrathion, the Black Prince (World of Warcraft) vs. Vox Akuma (Nijisanji En)
Romeo (Minecraft: Story Mode) vs. Hua Cheng (Heaven Official’s Blessing/TGCF)
Sharkface (Red vs. Blue) vs. Ashley (WarioWare)
Carmen Sandiego (Carmen Sandiego) vs. Beatrice (Umineko no Naku Koro ni)
Claire Stanfield/Felix Walken (Baccano!) vs. Deathgripper (How to Train your Dragon)
Default Mii Brawler (Super Smash Bros Ultimate) vs. Silver (Pokemon franchise)
Joui Jouki (Ordem Paranormal) vs. Banica Conchita (Evillious Chronicles)
Dreadking Rathalos (Monster Hunter Generations) vs. Black Widow Spider (real life)
Celestia Ludenberg (Danganronpa) vs. Gira/Kuwagata Ohger (Ohsama Sentai: King Ohger)
Garnet (Steven Universe) vs. Black Knight (Monty Python and the Holy Grail)
Scott Summers/Cyclops (X-men) vs. Heather Chandler (Heathers)
Lon (Sendokai champions) vs. Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Darth Maul (Star Wars) vs. Defective Turret (Portal 2)
Easthies (Witch Hat Atelier) vs. Grim (Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy)
Zagreus (Hades) vs. Freddy Kreuger (A Nightmare on Elm Street)
Black Rose Dragon (Yu-Gi-Oh!) vs. Marian Hawke (Dragon Age 2)
Michael Burnham (Stark Trek franchise) vs. Mapo Tofu (Food Fantasy)
Flapjack (The Owl House) vs. Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Ladybug (Miraculous Ladybug)
Red-winged Blackbird (real life) vs. Pucca (Pucca)
Overblot Riddle (Twisted Wonderland) vs. Quattro Bajeena (Mobile Suit Gundam franchise)
Pyramid Head (Silent Hill) vs. Lord Hater (Wander Over Yonder)
Sigmund Sinclair (The Reckoning) vs. Vash the Stampede (Trigun 98/Trigun Maximum)
Ranma Saotome (Ranma ½) vs. Valerie Gray (Danny Phantom)
Mephone 4s (Inanimate Insanity) vs. Regina (Doki Doki Precure)
Mordecai Heller (Lackadaisy) vs. Sideswipe (Transformers G1)
Satan (Lil Nas X’s Montero music video, and also Christianity or something) vs. Zealot Carmainerose (Epic 7)
Zero (Code Geass) vs. Yor Briar (Spy x Family)
Vincent Valentine (Final Fantasy franchise) vs. Ryuko Matoi (Kill la Kill)
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PLEASE tell me more about your batfam neverafter au i am ENRAPTURED heart and soul (and devastatingly curious about any thoughts you might have on fairy tale characters for dinah and/or connor)
how do they meet. what do they do. does alfred's character assignment mean what i think it means in context of the plot of neverafter because that could go so hard. i would love to know everything you're willing to share!!!!
Hiii! Thank you so much!!!
Okay so I am very excited
There is a lot I've planned for this AU, it has two arcs: an introductive arc that is just the retelling of everyone's tales to establish their themes and intertwine their stories together, and the big one that is their adventure in fucked up fairy tale land as they try to make sense of the horrors. I'll post the stories one by one in here, there is waaay too much to tell you everything.
The main theme is dehumanization/objectification (because it's the scariest form of horror imo and fits the dc and fairy tale meta so well) and it touches on themes of murder, SA/csa, racism/colonialism, incest, abuse, ableism, victim-blaming, classism etc. through that prism. There is also a lot of gore.
Unfortunately, I do not know Connor and Dinah enough yet to assign them tales (though I desperately wish to, as the rest of the Arrows). I'd be very curious and interested about suggestions though!!!
As for Alfred's assignment, it means exactly what you think!! I actually got the idea while I was writing an Alfred meta because it made me think about the fairies ^^
I'm so excited for this AU it just fills a niche that is so specific and fun!
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Round one matchups under the cut!!
EDIT: ROUND ONE IS CLOSED. CHECK PINNED FOR ROUND TWO
Bracket 1
Ruby Rose (RWBY) vs. Vanitas (Kingdom Hearts)
Mello (Death Note) vs. Rhaenyra Targaryern (House of the Dragon)
Kuga Yuma (World Trigger) vs. Kiki (Kiki's Delivery Service)
Clifford (Clifford the Big Red Dog) vs. Dracula (Castlevania)
Kai Satou (Your Turn to Die) vs. Ladybugs/Ladybirds (real life)
Zuko (Avatar: the Last Airbender) vs. Kuro (Katamari)
Kate (Shadows House) vs. The Cat (Ghost Trick)
Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch (Marvel comics) vs. Red X (Teen Titans)
Elric of Melniboné (The Elric Saga/Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion Multiverse) vs. Naomi Armitage (Armitage the Third)
Alucard (Hellsing Ultimate) vs Keith Kogane (Voltron: Legendary Defenders)
Lance (Sym Bionic Titan) vs. Panpeus (Gitaroo Man)
Six-Eared Macaque (Lego Monkie Kid) vs. Flick (Animal Crossing)
Watchdog (Jupiter-Men) vs. Crowley (Good Omens)
Eye of Sauron (Lord of the Rings) vs. Giant Horse (Breath of the Wild)
Razer (Jak X: Combat Racing) vs. Kieran Valentine (Monster High: Why Do Ghouls Fall In Love?)
Wei Wuxian (The Untamed/MDZS) vs. Yifa Snorgelsson (Dimension 20: Neverafter)
Shadow the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) vs. Black Sonichu/Blake (CWC's Sonichu)
Sailor Mars (Sailor Moon) vs. The Toy Soldier (The Mechanisms)
Ada Wong (Resident Evil) vs. Jack Spicer (Xiaolin Showdown)
Top Hat (The Nightly Manner) vs. Marceline the Vampire Queen (Adventure Time)
Parr Family/The Incredibles (The Incredibles) vs. Pioneer 9 (17776 and 20020)
Guilmon (Digimon) vs. Julian Devorak (The Arcana)
Miles Edgeworth (Ace Attorney) vs. Sundancer (Worm - Parahumans)
Hal 9000 (2001: A Space Oddyssey) vs. Eas/Cure Passion (Fresh Precure)
Harley Quinn (DC comics) vs. Itachi Uchiha (Naruto)
Scorpia (She-ra and the Princesses of Power) vs. Redcloak (Order of the Stick)
Scarlet Kingsnake (real life) vs. Hornet (Hollow Knight)
Maka Albarn (Soul Eater) vs. Toa Tahu (Bionicle)
Thorn (Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost) vs. Litten (Pokémon)
Maned Wolf (real life) vs. Orko (He-Man)
Rebecca Rubin (American Girl Dolls) vs. Lucifer (Obey Me)
Death the Wolf/The Wolf/Lobo/Death etc. (Puss in Boots: the Last Wish) vs. Joker (Persona 5) Bracket 2
Miles Morales/Spiderman (Marvel comics) vs. Cynder (Spyro)
Edelgard von Hresvelg (Fire Emblem franchise) vs. Sanguine (The Elder Scrolls)
Artegor Nexus (Galactik Football) vs. Beidou (Genshin Impact)
Barb (Trolls) vs. Mao Mao (Mao Mao Heroes of Pure Heart)
Wrathion, the Black Prince (World of Warcraft) vs. Vox Akuma (Nijisanji En)
Romeo (Minecraft: Story Mode) vs. Hua Cheng (Heaven Official's Blessing/TGCF)
Sharkface (Red vs. Blue) vs. Ashley (WarioWare)
Carmen Sandiego (Carmen Sandiego) vs. Beatrice (Umineko no Naku Koro ni)
Claire Stanfield/Felix Walken (Baccano!) vs. Deathgripper (How to Train your Dragon)
Default Mii Brawler (Super Smash Bros Ultimate) vs. Silver (Pokemon franchise)
Joui Jouki (Ordem Paranormal) vs. Banica Conchita (Evillious Chronicles)
Dreadking Rathalos (Monster Hunter Generations) vs. Black Widow Spider (real life)
Celestia Ludenberg (Danganronpa) vs. Gira/Kuwagata Ohger (Ohsama Sentai: King Ohger)
Garnet (Steven Universe) vs. Black Knight (Monty Python and the Holy Grail)
Scott Summers/Cyclops (X-men) vs. Heather Chandler (Heathers)
Lon (Sendokai champions) vs. Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Darth Maul (Star Wars) vs. Detective Turret (Portal 2)
Easthies (Witch Hat Atelier) vs. Grim (Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy)
Zagreus (Hades) vs. Freddy Kreuger (A Nightmare on Elm Street)
Black Rose Dragon (Yu-Gi-Oh!) vs. Marian Hawke (Dragon Age 2)
Michael Burnham (Stark Trek franchise) vs. Mapo Tofu (Food Fantasy)
Flapjack (The Owl House) vs. Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Ladybug (Miraculous Ladybug)
Red-winged Blackbird (real life) vs. Pucca (Pucca)
Overblot Riddle (Twisted Wonderland) vs. Quattro Bajeena (Mobile Suit Gundam franchise)
Pyramid Head (Silent Hill) vs. Lord Hater (Wander Over Yonder)
Sigmund Sinclair (The Reckoning) vs. Vash the Stampede (Trigun 98/Trigun Maximum)
Ranma Saotome (Ranma 1/2) vs. Valerie Gray (Danny Phantom)
Mephone 4s (Inanimate Insanity) vs. Regina (Doki Doki Precure)
Mordecai Heller (Lackadaisy) vs. Sideswipe (Transformers G1)
Satan (Lil Nas X's Montero music video, and also Christianity or something) vs. Zealot Carmainerose (Epic 7)
Zero (Code Geass) vs. Yor Briar (Spy x Family)
Vincent Valentine (Final Fantasy franchise) vs. Ryuko Matoi (Kill la Kill)
THESE ARE OUR CONTESTANTS. NOW WHO'S READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!
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