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cherrycrate Ā· 1 year ago
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Muted Desire - Dan Heng x Reader
Chapter 5!
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ā€œSampo?ā€ you asked. He clapped and a light emanated from his hands. If you hadnā€™t been completely overwhelmed with seeing him in front of you, you almost would have asked him what trick he had used to light the fire in his palm. ā€œI thought-ā€ you looked him up and down. It was Sampo. Good old Sampo. He hadnā€™t changed a bit, apart from growing taller and changing his style around. Messy hair, eyes you trusted and mistrusted at the same time - so welcoming, so vicious. Was your mind poisoned? Were you hallucinating beyond the point of help?
ā€œI was dead?ā€ he laughed, stepping forward with his arms extended to the sides. ā€œWell, good news! Iā€™m not!ā€
I couldn't help myself - I have been writing chapters like I have nothing else to do (I do. I am just terribly inefficient in real life affairs-)
Thank you so much for reading it as always!! Love ya!!
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crystallinestars Ā· 5 months ago
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Yeah English isn't my mother tongue so thank you for the compliment šŸ„° Honestly I saw the way you write (it's scrumptious) and the Argenti header and thought "damn I need to be on my best behaviour!" haha
Also never apologize for going off on a rant, I truly love your input!
Oh I do agree that it must be a mix of multiple things and that virtue signalling is definitely part of it! And the point you make about people creating a safe bubble for themselves and others really does make a lot of sense! I'd even be so bold as to say that this initial sentiment has unfortunately spiralled into having kneejerk reactions against any kind of perceived threat (for their identity, etc.). While I understand the need to be careful about who you let into your circle, it's a shame that instead of meaningful conversations (I'd imagine something like "I enjoy X thing in this story", "oh that's great, I have a different hc / interpretation but I'd love to hear your reasoning!") we're having a lot of passive aggressiveness or even full on pissing contests within the communities.
And if I had to sum up why I dislike, let's say between 60% to 90% of 'fandom culture' depending on whether or not it's a good day, I'd say that it's because of how often I have to see the utter glee and contempt this subsection of the fandom radiates whenever they feel like they've won their one-sided arguments / they can lord a win over someone's head for the dumbest things. It just boggles my mind. What happened to basic courtesy? I feel like people have grown so accustomed to living their 'bad bitch' fantasies on the internet without having to shoulder any responsibility for it (because of anonymity) that they've started to become waaay too comfortable coming into your space and being rude at best.
This is a bit of a digression, but for the sources, an example that comes to mind is a post I saw a while ago about the maple leaves associated with Dan Heng and (no shade to the person, it was an interesting read). However, they presented their argument in such a way that you just KNEW it wasn't just about Dan Hend, but about Blade too. They gave a list of symbolism for maple leaves, and the last point (the one highlighted by the structure) was "they also symbolise lovers!". It's in cases like this one I'd love for the OP to provide a source for their analysis, because the uni student in me just cannot accept claims on specific fields without credible evidence. Like is your analysis based on a discussion you had with a native? A paragrapgh you found on a blog named "sakurasdreamygarden.com"? A book you've read? Please, I'm not here to troll, I want to educate myself šŸ˜­ In this case it was also worth noting that someone in the comment added that 'maple leaves' is the literal meaning of Dan Feng's name (äø¹ęž«), in which case (this is just me adding my two cents) you could also argue that the maple leaves, specifically on Dan Heng's splash art, could symbolise the shadow of a past he cannot completely get rid of.
I was feeling like sticking my head in a lion's mouth when I wrote the 4th point šŸ˜‚ And since I still do, I will just say that Mihoyo's pandering extends to hetero relationships too. Remember how I said these games remind me of Kpop? What I meant by that is that what they do is basically "All for the glitter and the aesthetic with zero commitment to the bit". So far in Genshin and HSR, they seem to focus especially on giving players shiny little toys to play with (attractive playable characters). And I say that their pandering extends to hetero relationships because as of now the only playable character with a semi-canon relationship is Welt, who's a Honkai Impact character (at least that's what I've heard, I don't know anything about Honkai Impact). I'm thinking especially about Yukong when I say this, because when she became playable in 1.1 I think, they wasted no time to clarify in 1.2 that actually Qingni is her ADOPTED daughter, which is basically like telling players "don't worry, Yukong hasn't been tainted by any man and is just as much of a shiny little toy freshly out of the box as the others!" Like, what am I supposed to believe with that? That for HSR the censorship this part of the fandom loves to bring up was magically extended to the heteros?
Also, I know nothing about Hi3 but since I love semantics, identify as a relationship fiend and still feel like getting shot by the fandom today, I'd also like to ask people to please explain to me how a kiss (yes, even on the lips) is objectively an undeniable act of romance. I'd argue that it's a sign of intimacy because it involves letting someone else get super close to you in a vulnerable moment, but that does not make it inherently romantic. Truthfully I'm just being facetious here but my sentiment is genuine: I would be eternally grateful if we stopped taking certain things for granted "because it's obvious" or whatever, and if we truly started to take the argument that many things in relationships are social constructs seriously. (PS: I mean "intimacy" here as "the state of having a close personal relationship with somebody", based on the first definition given by the online version of the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
Oh yes, Childe. I had heard of him before I started playing Genshin and when I arrived in Liyue I was like: "really? Is this the little guy you've decided to call daddy??" Childe's case hurts me less than Aventurine's solely because I decided recently that I would get Arlecchino and then uninstall the game for a while but I also really feel you! For HSR I'm here mostly for the lore and the Aeons and it really doesn't help that while I don't particularly mind shipping, it's something I indulge in sporadically, when a pairing scratches my brain just right. So I'm sitting here on the outskirts of the fandom watching people get mad at fictional corpos (the IPC, especially Topaz) but then jumping through so many hoops and getting up in arms to protect Mihoyo, or acting like the social justice police šŸ˜
Oh and the fanarts you're talking about. I've been lucky enough not to see anything like that but like. Out of all the characters they could rough up they chose Aventurine?? Now it's reminding me of that one slave owner fanfic and I just have to wonder what it is about characters like him that always attracts the most unhinged fans.
They complain about Paimon hogging the spotlight in Genshin but then are taken by surprise whenever they fail to pick up hints, it's lowkey disheartening to see.
Honestly for Kaveh I feel like people had massacred Alhaitham's character even before Kaveh was introduced, to make it fit into any sexual fantasy trope. I just remembered this but whenever I hear about haikaveh or any shoe-horned ship for that matter, I start hearing this post:
https://www.tumblr.com/what-even-is-thiss/739539118572371969/sometimes-someone-just-isnt-into-you?source=share
The answers trying to make the character played by OP admit they've got hidden feelings is really how people with shipping lenses glued to their heads behave šŸ˜­
I'm also glad to see people focusing on characters individually and picking up interesting things about them! And I'm going to be honest: I mean this as disrespectfully as I can but if someone is surprised by reveals like that in a story like that, I'm just assuming they've never read anything else in their lives. Like, if your first reaction to anything in a story is to neatly categorize it as a trope (especially a romance trope) I genuinely need for this person to start educating themselves and engage with other media because there's just no way šŸ’€ I can understand making assumptions / theories and then be proven wrong but this just on another level.
I hope I was coherent enough with all of this, and that you have a great day, evening or night too!
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Iā€™m so happy you like my writing šŸ˜­šŸ’š I believe you can write amazing things as well. Youā€™re really good at expressing your thoughts. The Argenti header is there because I like him and think thereā€™s not enough of him in fandom haha.
The gleeful attitude some people have when their bullying succeeds is honestly repulsive. I only saw a bit of it, but itā€™s nasty how they act as if they accomplished a good deed. I daresay they even purposely go after people with differing opinions just to bully them into submission and feel good about it. As you pointed out, basic courtesy went out the window a long time ago due to anonymity of the internet.
Haha the Dan Heng maple leaf bit is proving my point! While people do try to be informative about symbolism and whatnot in character design, itā€™s also a means of validating their headcanons/ship. If Dan Fengā€™s name means maple leaves, then it makes perfect sense why maple leaves are a big part of Dan Hengā€™s design. Not everything about characters is linked to a ship, and I would love for more neutral discussions regarding the symbolism and culture behind their designs šŸ˜”
About Welt. I actually played Honkai Impact 3rd and read some of their comics (I was on the hunt for Su and Sumeru lore in preparation for Sumeruā€™s release). HI3 has a lot of canonical NL and GL pairings. Weltā€™s love is Frederica Nikola Tesla. There are more moments between them in the comic than the game, but itā€™s very obvious theyā€™re in love with each other.
But of course, when he was introduced as a playable character in HSR, that part of him was buried. You can see Tesla in his splashart, but thatā€™s about it. Same with Yukong. I was surprised they made her a mother since thatā€™s a very bold move for a gacha game, so I knew there had to be a catch. And sure enough, sheā€™s just an adoptive mother.
Gacha games are notorious for marking their characters single. If playable characters have a confirmed relationship, a lot of players would get very angry and jealous, and the company would lose profit. For example, I heard that back in 1.1 or so, Mihoyo wanted to release a lore book about Zhongli and Guizhong. I havenā€™t read it, so I canā€™t say if there was any romantic implication between them in the book, but Zhongli fans threw a fit, so Mihoyo scrapped it. Similarly, before Inazuma released, a leaker falsely said that Thoma was Ayakaā€™s fiancĆ©, and again, the community got angry and cursed Thoma to hell. Ironically, it seems like players are far more accepting of same-sex relationship between characters than of opposite-sex ones šŸ˜…
I think kissing is strongly associated with romance because we have been conditioned to perceive it as such. Movies and other media make kissing a big deal between characters, thereā€™s a lot of emphasis put on it as a turning point in their relationship. It also doesnā€™t help that practically every aspect of physical intimacy gets relegated to romantic relationships (hand-holding, cuddling, etc).
In our modern era, a lot of people feel isolated. Physical intimacy between an individual and their friends and family is rarer, so they think that if they get a significant other, theyā€™ll receive the physical intimacy (and not only physical) that they crave. Itā€™s a social construct for sure, but itā€™s very wide-spread and hard to break out of. At any rate, this is all just my conjecture.
Aventurine is a tragic case. Iā€™m glad the amount of abusive fanarts of him has died down, though Childe doesnā€™t have that luxury šŸ˜” I suppose the fuckboy type makes people think the character is up on a high horse, so they want to knock him down a peg. Some also perceive the trope to be inherently masochistic for whatever reason. I doubt weā€™ll ever know.
Lmao that post you linked! So true! Thatā€™s exactly how they behave! Gaslighting everyone, even the author, to convince them thereā€™s romantic feelings between the characters when there are none. Characters used to be interpreted as friends, enemies, family, etc, but nowadays every character relationship gets seen as romantic. I miss the days when characters could be just friends or found family.
And I agree, Alhaitham was already butchered since the Sumeru Archon quest. People see a hot, muscular guy and focus only on how sexy he looks, and how hot it would be if he was dominant or aggressive, despite it not being his character at all. I get that people are free to imagine whatever they want for the sake of fun, but with how widespread some of those interpretations become, the character gets quickly reduced to tropes, and people forget what theyā€™re actually like in canon.
To this day, there are still people surprised that Alhaitham is actually very nice and kind, even to children. He took in a broke man he didnā€™t particularly get along with and hasnā€™t seen in years, so if that isnā€™t a big fat hint that heā€™s a nice person, then I donā€™t know what is. As we have both agreed, a lot of people donā€™t pick up on the nuance of character writing šŸ˜”
Thank you for stopping by šŸŖ»anon! I also hope you have a great day, and take care šŸ’š
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