#damosel savage

[tiodolma]

GARETH X LYNETTE ROADTRIP

lynette: i'll make sure you will die and then i will be free of you. gareth: watch me. you will never be free of me until i say so.

[the-evil-clergyman]

How Sir Launcelot slew the knight Sir Peris de Forest Savage that did distress ladies, damosels, and gentlewomen, from The Romance of King Arthur and His Knights of the Round Table by Arthur Rackham (1917)

[merilles]

Gareth and Lynette

(For @queer-ragnelle’s May Day Parade!)

Beaumains and the Damosel Savage! Though he wed her sister Lady Lyonors and she his brother Sir Gaheris, they swore to forever remain friends until death do them part.

[queer-ragnelle]

Feel like malory choose which characters he didnt like and which he did and then went through the motions of doing his retelling but that means stuff like Arthur doing the Mayday Massacre gets like a paragraph and has no influence on the narrative. Malory put a biblical exodus king/herod the great moment in there and then said “dont worry about it :]” meanwhile I literally cannot stop thinking about The Implications

he really did. the largest downside is malory was simplifying the post vulgate, which was already a simplification of the vulgate. so it’s like a horrendous game of telephone & all the depth & nuance is lost.

for example, in the post vulgate, arthur sleeps with morgause when he’s young, before he’s married, & she didn’t realize it was him (it was dark?? medieval logic.) point being that the adultery double standard isn’t a factor, she did not mean to cheat on lot, & arthur was single. that’s a narrative hiccup on malory’s part. furthermore the prophecy of a child born on may day come to destroy the kingdom was vague, so arthur’s intention was to round up the children born around that time, & raise them, until they were old enough to distinguish who was who. lot & morgause were sending baby mordred willingly, thinking this was a good opportunity for their son to be tutored in the high king’s household, only for the ship to crash, & for them to believe their son had died as a result of this summons. but he didn’t, & was raised alongside sagramore, eventually coming to court & learning of his real brothers, the other sons of morgause, that way.

i think the original stories & spins malory included were the best of it, especially gareth beaumains & his adventures with the damosel savage. but much of what he adapted he fumbled, all the motifs are forgotten, characters are inconsistent or hold beliefs which aren’t supported by the narrative itself (ie, mark sucks we hate him! what has he done? shhh don’t worry about that just hate him! team tristan!). kind of a mess!

i recommend the vulgate instead. it’s long. but skipping the history of the grail starting from the story of merlin it gives an in depth explanation of everything at play, all the characters rise to power, & their motivations. then the vulgate proper picks up with baby lancelot. norris j. lacy’s translation is a dream to read with really thorough footnotes to explain any references made or translation nuances.

the PDFs can be read here if you’re so inclined.

[talesfromtheenchantedforest]

ok since most ladies in arthurian literature don’t get names, and Lynete gets TWO, one of which is the iconic Damosel Savage, I propose all the other damosels get names off the list of ship names from the english royal navy, but only, like, the dope ones or the funny ones, not the lame ones.

by this system we could have a Damosel Malice, a Damosel Nimrod, and a Damosel Gay Bruiser, just sayin

[kprciffdw]

Kim Possible: The Extremely Secret Files-Part 20

They arrived on the Planet Damosel. They got out of the ship and looked out at the massive ocean-side city. Ron: "Wow, I have to admit, these alien cities never fail to amaze me."

Rufus popped out of Ron's pocket and had a chance to look out at the city. Rufus: "Whoooooa!" Kim: "I wonder how far Lilo has gotten." Clank: "Or if she and Stitch as well as those other Experiments, or Stitch's cousins as they are referred to, have arrived here." Ratchet: "Let's find that out for ourselves. Come on, the city needs us."

They rushed into the city. As soon as they entered, they met up with Lilo and Stitch. Ratchet: "Hey! Lilo! Stitch!" Lilo: "You guys made it." Kim: "So how have things been going?" Lilo: "Not so good. We were able to handle the city but the Protopets are now wreaking havoc on the railways. Some of Stitch's cousins are handling it now, but we're going to need help with the ones still causing chaos on the streets." Ratchet: "Don't worry, Lilo, we'll take care of it, just send as many of Stitch's cousins as necessary to provide back up for the ones still at the railway." Lilo: "You got it!." Stitch: "Okie-taka! Leave it to me!"

Stitch rushed off, Lilo followed him. Ratchet and the group headed towards the streets. There, the Protopet infestation was devastating. There were civilians being attacked continuously. It was truly a gruesome sight. Ron: "This looks way worse than what we saw on that news broadcast Lilo showed us." Kim: "This is just horrible…we have to do something, you guys." Ratchet: "And we will. Let's go."

They rushed out and fought off many of the Protopets. It was a very tough fight, but they persisted on. What made things even tougher was that the Protopets kept reproducing even more Protopets, making the fight from difficult to overwhelming. They eventually came to a point where the infestation was too much for them to handle. Ratchet: "It's no use, there's just too many of them!"

Kim looked over to see a machine producing more of them. Kim: "And they just keep replicating. What can we do?"

Just then, Ron came up with an idea. Ron: "Hold on, guys. I'm about to do something reckless and perhaps even embarrassing."

Ron grabbed on to the waist area of his pants. Kim, Ratchet and Clank stood by and watched. Ratchet: "Oh, no, he's not doing what I think he's doing, is he?" Kim: "I'm afraid so."

Ron then, after taking off his pants, held them up. Ron: "Hey!"

All of the Protopets stopped and looked directly towards him. Ron waved his pants up and down. Ron: "Fuzzo! Fuzzo! Olay!"

Rufus popped out of his pocket and screeched as he looked out. As the Protopets rushed over towards Ron, Rufus jumped out of the pocket, rushed towards Kim as fast as he could and climbed up on her shoulder. He was quaking in fear as he closed his eyes. Ron continued waving his pants up and down. Ron: "Fuzzo! Fuzzo!"

They continued to approach him, but he kept waving his pants up and down. Ron: "Fuzzo! Fuzzo! Fuzzo! Olay! Fuzzo! Fuzzo!"

Rufus groaned as he covered his eyes with his hand and shook his head. Ratchet: "I feel the same way, Rufus." Clank: "I believe Ron has completely lost it this time." Kim: "He has…but…as crazy as this may sound, he…may be on to something." Ratchet: "Is he really?" Clank: "Hm…actually, she is right. From what I am able to gather from previous events, many creatures have been incomprehensibly drawn to Ron's trousers, which have resulted in numerous embarrassing incidences. I would guess that he is taking advantage of what he had taken from said previous events and is utilizing this to lure these deadly creatures away from everything and everyone around us." Ratchet: "You know what? All of that sounds ridiculous, but…it does make sense, in a way. Still, it barely does anything to take away any factors of how incredibly embarrassing this is." Kim: "Unfortunately, that much is true." Clank: "I…agree…"

The Protopets continued to approach Ron. But as they got close to him, he went from waving his pants to becoming terrified and running away screaming. Ron: "KP! RATCHET! CLANK!" Ratchet: "(sigh) Come on, let's help him out…again."

They rushed over and dealt with the Protopets but they were too late to prevent Ron's pants from being completely ripped to shreds by the savage creatures. Ron: "Oh, why did I think this was a good idea?" Clank: "I would hope that your pants are able to be reassembled after being ripped to shreds unreservedly."

Ron chuckled nervously. Ron: "Uh…probably." Ratchet: "Alright! That's it! I've had enough waiting! Kimberly, ask Wade if he's finished with building those indestructible pants, already."

Kim then pulled out the Kimmunicator. Kim: "Wade?" Wade: "Yeah, Kim? What's up?" Kim: "Uh…we have another situation…with Ron." Wade: "(sigh) What did he do this time?" Kim: "Well…um…you see…the Protopets were unleashed upon an entire populated metropolis, so we came to fend them off and…long story short, Ron did that by taking off his pants and using them to lure the Protopets away from the populace." Ratchet: "And his pants were completely shredded and devoured by the Protopets." Wade: "Whoa, that has got to be the craziest thing that he has ever done!" Ratchet: "Yeah, are those indestructible pants done, yet, because I would really appreciate having them be given to Ron right now!" Wade: "Um…they're…not, not completely, but they're almost there. I just need one piece of material to complete them." Ratchet: "And where do you expect us to find that?" Wade: "Fortunately, it's very close to your location." Clank: "But what about Ron? Will he have to remain without a pair of trousers until you have completed the construction of those indestructible pants?" Wade: "Not to worry, the Pants Regenerator will fully recover his pants from even the tiniest reading of the fabric."

Just then, they heard a massive explosion nearby. Kim: "What was that!?"

Wade checked something on his monitor. Wade: "I'm picking up some major activities from many Experiments; the Protopets and a multitude of other Experiments not otherwise specified." Ratchet: "That must be Stitch and his cousins." Wade: "Wait! Stitch is there with you, in the Bogon Galaxy?" Kim: "Along with Lilo." Wade: "Lilo, too? What are they doing in another galaxy?"

At that moment, they could hear a lot of loud noises from outside the city. Kim: "What's going on over there!?" Ratchet: "I don't know, but we had better get over there and find out. For all we know, they may need us to back them up."

They rushed towards the city exit as fast as they could. Ron's pants were restored as he rushed out with the others.

Directly outside the city, they saw Stitch and his cousins fighting the Protopets on the railways. Lilo stood near them, rooting for Stitch and his cousins. Lilo: "Go, Stitch! Bring down those nasty beasts! Yeah! Go, Ohana!" Ratchet: "Lilo?"

She turned around and noticed the group. Lilo: "Oh! Hey, guys. You're just in time. Stitch and his cousins are just about to finish off the last of those horrible Protopet monsters."

They stood beside her and watched as the fight between both groups of genetically modified creatures continued. They were amazed by the fight as it persisted on. Ratchet: "Whoa, Stitch and those other Experiments of yours really pack quite a punch." Kim: "By the way, we just heard an explosion while we were still in the city. What was that?" Lilo: "That explosion? That was those Protopets blowing up one of the generators on that platform on the water. There's a piece of it over there."

They looked over beside them and saw a large piece of metal sticking out of the wall. The Kimmunicator went off again, she pulled it out. Wade: "Kim, that piece of metal up there; that's the final component I need to complete those indestructible pants! I just need you to scan it and then I'll be able to finally construct those pants."

Kim held the Kimmunicator up and scanned the metal piece, then dropped it back down, turned it around and looked back at the screen. Wade: "OK, got it. Now to build those pants. I'll have them made in no time." Kim: "Great, keep us posted; I can't wait to hear when you've managed to complete them."

She tucked the Kimmunicator away. Ratchet: "Neither can I."

They went back to watching the fight.

Within much time, Stitch and his cousins were able to purge the infestation. They celebrated a battle well fought then returned to Lilo. They celebrated with her as Ratchet and the group stood nearby and watched them. Both groups then stood face to face. Kim: "I have to admit, you've helped us out tremendously." Ratchet: "No kidding. Stitch and his cousins really took down all of those Protopets with ease." Clank: "Oh, I agree. Your Stitch and those other genetically modified Experiments of yours have proven to be most formidable allies in this fight." Lilo: "Mahalo, you guys; we were happy to help. Although, it seems as though this threat has spread to many other planets in this galaxy. We plan to go over to each one and save them from all of this chaos." Clank: "And we shall wish you the best of luck, Miss Lilo." Ratchet: "And while you guys do that, we'll tackle this infestation from the source." Lilo: "And how will you be able to do that?" Ratchet: "Well, we have someone who will be helping us out with that. In fact, she's been trying to put a stop to this from the very beginning." Lilo: "You mean that other girl with the same ears as you? Well, hope you guys succeed in that." Kim: "That's what we intend to do." Lilo: "Well, good luck you guys and see you later." Ratchet: "Uh, before you go, care to mention what Ohana means?" Lilo: "Why, certainly, Ratchet. Ohana means family." Ratchet: "Family…that sounds interesting." Lilo: "Yep and family means nobody gets left behind." Stitch: "Or forgotten."

Ratchet smiled, then looked at Kim as she was also smiling at him. Lilo: "Well, see ya, guys." Stitch: "Ih! Bachooga!"

Lilo, Stitch and Stitch's cousins walked off.

Ratchet and the group went back to the ship and made their way to the next planet.

[queer-ragnelle]

hello!! i am pretty new to tumblr so still finding my way around, and part of my current project was going to be looking into fandom space to see how some of the word of mouth and online space mimics oral storytelling. i am especially looking at villains in arthuriana and fan interpretations and headcanons for this, so any advice of where to look hereabouts would be really lovely!! ty for your time and hope you have a great day!!

Hi anon! Welcome!

Honestly I'm at a bit of a loss where to even begin. The scope of Arthuriana and what constitutes a "villain" is so vast. There are the obvious Black Knights and usurping nephews, but even those characters have more than their fair share of morally gray/nuanced portrayals depending on where you look. Medieval literature in and of itself was varied even before we get into modern interpretations and the far reaching corners of fandom. I think in regards to this, it might help to narrow your scope to specific "villainous" characters—Morgan le Fay, Sir Mordred, False Guinevere, Sir Meleagant, and the mysterious Knights of Green and Red and Black.

There's also the matter of where you intend to make the cut off. What constitutes "canon" character interpretation? Where does "canon" end and fan extrapolation begin? To my mind, personally, anything after the Middle Ages falls into the "modern" category, which would include Alfred Lord Tennyson's The Idylls of The King on our end of the divide. Speaking for myself, I don't devalue any interpretation based solely on the era of it's inception. If Sir Thomas Malory wrote in Le Morte d'Arthur that Sir Gareth married Lyonesse, then it is so. But when Tennyson claims that, no, Sir Gareth married the Savage Damosel Linet, then he is also correct. Each iteration is it's own self-contained world and anything is possible within that framework. So it is for "villains," as well.

But that said, the beauty of Arthuriana is that each new addition to the literary tradition (and I include films, TV shows, video games, comics, and every other conceivable medium) builds on what came before. I don't necessarily enjoy or recommend them all, but there's definitely a connection from one retelling to the next. In John Boorman's Excalibur (1981), Percival is first revealed as a strange boy wandering the forest who happens upon Lancelot sleeping. Percival is captivated by him. He endears himself to the knight by waking him with the smell of meat he hunted and roasted especially for him. From there, he's brought back to Camelot to begin working under Kay in the kitchens and eventually rises to knighthood. When I first saw this, I was elated. "It's just like in The Adventures of Sir Lancelot!" Go back thirty more years. In The Adventures of Sir Lancelot (1956-1957), there's a character named Brian, a kitchen boy. After Lancelot helps end the siege that was threatening the castle Brian worked at, he begins following Lancelot around, and one morning, cooks breakfast for the knight. By the end of the episode, Lancelot has all but adopted him, and enrolls him in lessons to begin his squiredom, and eventually, achieve knighthood. Sound familiar?

Could it be that John Boorman, as a child, watched The Adventures of Sir Lancelot, saw what they did with their Brian/Gareth hybrid, and said, "I like that idea, I think I'll use it for Percival." To me, Boorman drawing on that 50s show for his own work is no different than Tennyson building on what Malory had done, who in his own turn wrote from the Post Vulgate.

Now we come to the present day. Bloggers share these stories. We quote the texts. I stream movies and TV shows every weekend in the Arthurian Theater Server. We make connections from one creation to the next. You can see the web of inspirations all interconnecting. Then we branch off into our own new interpretations based on the foundations of these creations that came before. I don't know how popular an opinion this is, but I think that goes beyond "head canon," because there is no canon. Arthuriana is a continuously flowing font made up of tiny beads of details. The stories can only function with the existence of the others. It's not derivative in the same sense as one drawing a little too heavily from their favorite childhood fantasy novel. This tradition dates back hundreds of years. We're just continuing it with the technology of our time.

You want to focus on "villains." But I wonder—Is Morgan le Fay's character beholden to a specific source? How do we determine what that is? If one chooses to write Morgan le Fay sympathetically, or even outright benevolent, is she still a "villain?" Is she still Morgan le Fay? Personally, I think we should respect what came before us, and consider how that impacts the new addition we intend to create. Change Morgan too much and she ceases to be recognizable as Morgan, and I'm here to read about Morgan! I think it's important to maintain the same resonance which has kept us interested for so many centuries. And yet the basis for sweeping changes is all around us. Just as Morgan plotted to kill Arthur and seize his throne, she also rode by his side in the boat to Avalon, where he sleeps still. The range of possibilities is vast beyond imagination. So go wild and get creative, I'm not your mom.

I don't know if that answers your questions or not lol. You're welcome to send me another ask or a private message if you want to talk more.

I also open up this question to my followers for a larger sample size—What do you guys think?

Thanks for the ask and have a great day!