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#khaleesi#daenerys targaryen#game of thrones#chubby#me#chubby girl#myself#thicc girls#chubby gf#body#body positive#soft#curvy body#curvy girls#daenerys cosplay#cosplay#costume#game of thrones cosplay#GoT#blonde#big tiddy committee#big tiddy gf
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daenerys isn’t the “paul atreides of asoiaf” grrm was never inspired by dune nor has he ever stated it was an influence on his writing for the series
when asked for opinion on frank herbert’s dune books he respected it as “classic work” but clearly wasn’t the biggest fan of them
#dune part one had ppl writing positive think pieces about house atreides & stark#now part two has ppl claiming paul’s dark messiah arc inspired or can be used to justify dark daenerys..#the double standards are ridiculous#daenerys targaryen#daenerys stormborn#asoiaf#grrm
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ASOIAF discourse about gender performance gets so insane because wdym Daenerys is a masculine character... Like she's the third most feminine POV character after Sansa and Catelyn. She's heavily associated with motherhood, marriages and romance. And I don't mean this in a negative way, Dany and Sansa are my favorite characters even though show Sansa was kinda ruined from s5 onwards.
Like yes Dany is going against misogynistic traditions by being a queen and a Khaleesi in her own right rather than as a consort. But breaking gender roles in a sexist society that doesn't let women into the same positions of power as men doesn't neccessarily make someone masculine, male-coded or whatever. She's not a tomboy, butch or even fight hand to hand like Arya/Brienne/Asha. Whether that's a good thing or bad thing for you is another thing but it's the truth.
This is pretty much the same for Rhaenyra too, except show Rhaenyra is actually slightly tomboyish in personality and was against the idea of dealing with motherhood and marriage before the time jump.
#like i know this gets said as both a positive and negative thing but it's ridiculous either way sorry#daenerys targaryen#rhaenyra targaryen#a song of ice and fire#asoiaf
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#dany closing agot >>>>#like you don’t GET ITTTTT#the night came alive with the music of DRAGONS#notice how’s phrased in such a positive way#the night came ALIVE#with the MUSIC of dragons#‘fire is life passion sex’#a song of ice and FIRE babbyyy#asoiaf#daenerys targaryen#Leah reads asoiaf#dany love#leah rambles
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Nymeria nipped eagerly at her hand as Arya untied her. She had yellow eyes. When they caught the sunlight, they gleamed like two golden coins. Arya had named her after the warrior queen of the Rhoyne, who had led her people across the narrow sea. (Arya I, AGOT) *George directly compares Dany to Nymeria*
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This time the monsters did not frighten her. They seemed almost old friends. Arya held the candle over her head. With each step she took, the shadows moved against the walls, as if they were turning to watch her pass. "Dragons," she whispered. (Arya IV, AGOT)
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If I had wings I could fly back to Winterfell and see for myself. And if it was true, I'd just fly away, fly up past the moon and the shining stars, and see all the things in Old Nan's stories, dragons and sea monsters and the Titan of Braavos, and maybe I wouldn't ever fly back unless I wanted to. (Arya X, ACOK)
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"I wish I had a flaming sword." Arya could think of lots of people she'd like to set on fire. (Arya IV, ASOS)
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Arya drew back from him. "He killed the slave?" That did not sound right. "He should have killed the masters!" (Arya II, AFFC)
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"I would like to see a dragon," Mercy said wistfully. "Why does the envoy have a chicken on his chest?" (Mercy, TWOW) *said to her friend Daena*
This is the same Arya Stark who I'm supposed to believe isn't going to be instant besties with Daenerys Targaryen...okay. I think it's time for some of y'all to go back to the books and actually read them.
#arya stark#daenerys targaryen#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#daenerya#so many people who don't even like them hate on the idea of them being friends and it's sooooo miserable#if you don't care about either of them then what's the issue with them being friends? 😭#either way they're George's two favorite female characters you can bet that he's going to be writing them positively interacting#one of the most foreshadowed meetings in the books fr...what that show really took from us#people are right that they aren't going to be friends cause they're actually going to kiss 🫶🏾#daenarya is the ship that was promised it is known
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#hotd#asoiaf#hotd critical#team black#fire and blood#anti team green#asoiaf fandom#these people love to cite daenerys this one time#as if “a dragon is not a slave” doesn't just mean you can't FORCE a bond#not that it's a fucking free-for-all game of finders keepers#targs derive their power from their monopoly over dragons because they have the power to enforce that monopoly#that's how ownership works#Rhaenyra was not just the heir to the throne she was also the future head of the family + highest ranking dragonrider#If she didn't want Aemond to have Vhagar and if she would have had Viserys say NO had Aemond asked then yes he did indeed “STEAL” Vhagar#again because he knew he would be told NO#a non-misogynistic jaehaerys would have sent his ass to the wall#the whole point of that scene in F&B was the important matter (vhagar) was pushed aside because viserys didn't want to deal with 'drama'#and because of aemond's eye rhaenyra was not in a position to push#So yes actually it was a pretty good trade for aemond
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The reason why HOTD doesn’t work is because the Dance of Dragons, while devastating and tragic, especially for women in terms of ruling and inheritance, is meant to set up the success of Dany’s arc (bringing back dragons and magic, reviving house targaryen, being queen regnant), but GOT ends with Dany’s failure and villainization. There will be no payoff after rhaenyra is killed during the war and no woman is allowed to sit the throne in her own right for the next 100+ years. Dany gets the throne for a day before being murdered in front of it. Then it goes to a dude who absolutely doesn’t deserve it. GOT has damned HOTD by fucking up the point of this event in ASOIAF history. So now we have the HOTD writers trying to retcon and shift the focus from “both sides were capable of doing some fucked up things, but ultimately this was a crime perpetrated by the greens against Rhaenyra that really ruined things for literally everyone” to “both sides were equally bad and wrong and everyone should’ve just gotten along.”
#ramblings#hotd critical#got critical#Daenerys Targaryen#rhaenyra targaryen#ok I’m fairly positive I have an extremely similar post but I think I made it pre show#this is post show in light of how they’ve written and executed this story#they REALLY should’ve done any other point in targ history like the conquest or something#instead of the part where women really got fucked over and that’s what happened in the main series too 😒
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smartasses; pOweR cOrRuPTs aNd abs0luTE p0wER cOrRuPTs, invariable and with no regards to good intentions (funnily enough is only ever said in the context of talking about Daenerys and her ancestors)
also them about their favs; 🙈 or. "he is sUch a MaNNis" 🤤 (meant unironically) ThE kIng wHo cARed when Stannis runs around burning everbody left and right because he is megalomaniac, sucks strategically and nobody gives a lick about him or his cause + "I want my oh so gullible, naive fave of a litEtaL cHild in an absolute power" 🤡
same goes for the dragons; when their mother commands them she is hitler with nuclear weapons but any able-bodied joe in the series is just the man™ when they get them in their incels fans's power fantasies
#asoiaf#fandom wank#anti sansa stark#anti sansa stans#anti stansas#anti stannis baratheon stans#anti stannis mannis incels fan club#fandom hypocrisy 101#targantion#daenerys targaryen#house targaryen#let's not talk about how sansa in an absolute power position would amplify her classism tenfold- (but depending on which trip her stans are#being a bigot is acTuaLly humanitarian apparently)#anti certain pathetic jon stans
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let’s be honest for a sec
if you don’t want dany in a position of power at the end of asoiaf then you cannot actually care about the small folk.
you just want your fav on a throne while the small folk continue to be little better than slaves : )
yes, i know that other characters (like jon and arya) are also clearly positioned to make change but dany is the one with the dragons. she has the power to make true lasting change by using her power, and at the end of dance she finally understood that fire and blood was the only way to make true peace in meereen/slavers bay. if it takes fire and blood to strip some power away from lords and ladies in westeros and make the small folk a more protected class then i know dany will do it because she has the means and the kind heart to see it through
#the lords of westeros have been getting too ballsy#dany will land and put them in their places#change will take time and dany is best positioned to help westeros and essos change for the betterment of the common people#because she actually cares about the common people#what a shock the girl freeing slaves will try to better the lives of serfs (basically slaves)#no i don’t think george has created this incredible character just for her to die during the long night#daenerys targaryen#daenerys targaryen you will always be famous#i’m always critical of this fandom some of u just don’t think shit through and end up sounding like fools#lol i say this as if i haven’t posted stupid shit before lmao
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I think it's interesting how some toxic Sansa fans throw hate at Dany for her actions in the first book regarding her time with the dothraki, given how Sansa is in a similar situation to that of Dany in the first book, in the sense that both depend entirely on Drogo/Petyr.
Dany was a young girl whose "authority" derived from being the khaleesi to Drogo, a fragile position actually, as she really held no more power than any of her handmaidens. If anything were to happen to Drogo, then she'd be completely powerless. And she was well aware of the fact, such as when she took Eroeh and the other girls under her protection.
Sansa's situation might be certainly better than Dany's in AGoT, but then, if anything were to happen to Petyr, the man her entire life depends on, where would she go? As Alayne Stone she is only the bastard daughter of man who is not really much beloved, and as Sansa Stark she has a price on her head. No friends or family to help her. Even then, her identity would be put into question, she has no direwolf. Can you really blame her?
So then, I wonder, why are they so critical of Dany? Also, as if Sansa/Alayne isn't having the time of her life with her splendid tourney and her big lemoncake, not a worry in her life currently... She really is living in a different reality than the rest! 😂
#asoiaf#daenerys targaryen#don't look at me#not tagging she who must not be named because i don't want her army after me lol#but really i think they are so dumb to not realise sansa's position in the vale is just as precarious as dany was really
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Me reading fanfics with Daenerys in them: "She would NOT fucking say that."
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mother of dragons <3
#me#chubby#chubby girl#myself#cosplay#daenerys targaryen#game of thrones#daenerys cosplay#GoT#body#body positive#soft#chubby gf#thicc girls#thicc thighs#thicc women#my post#mine#curvy body#blonde#fantasy
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season eight sucks but mayhaps i am rather fond of daenerys encouraging jon that he does know things
#jon snow#daenerys targaryen#anyway i think dany will be a very positive force in his life in the books#this isnt an anti ygritte post or anything bc i don't care but#more so for show!only fans so i can quit hearing that quote#LMFAO
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oh look its hotd oc fixit fanfic idea i will never write (that is connected to my got fanfic i will also never write)
#elsie rambles about her stories#basically the bad ending of my got fanfic and alysanne is given a second chance after dying to take up the mantle of the 3 eyed raven#unfortuntely it's not a do-over#shes reborn as daemon's daughter with rhea royce#and while she has lost her twin#and her life + all she knows#alys is given a chance to make sure it doesn't happen#and if all goes as planned; the realm will be better prepared for the long night; the massacre of kings landing will not occur;#her loved ones will have happier lives (her brother wont be forced into the position he was in; jojen#; lyanna and bby rickon will have a chance to live; maybe save daenerys from herself; ext)#hell maybe she can prevent the dance itself#unfortunately her knowledge is of what may come and her very presence threatens that#not to mention her knowledge of the dance is third hand pm and it was a 100 years before her time#luckily the impossible girl has allies in the form of two half siblings (one who was never meant to live and one whose truth is#VERY different then what alys thought she knew)#(jon snow may also be reincarnated ;) )
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"The Starks are going to hate Dany because her father killed their grandfather and uncle"
The Starks thinking about Rickard and Brandon:
#asoiaf#house stark#daenerys targaryen#if they were going to have a conflict based on that then they would actually think about them in their POVs😭#sorry but not even Ned hates the Targs over what happened so it makes no sense that his kids would hold a bigger grudge#an actual potential conflict is Dany being (rightfully) angry at Ned for his alliance with Robert#you know something that's actually been built up in the story and we see how she feels on the topic#vs. /let's assume the Starks will be angry cause I would be angry in their position even though they've literally never thought about it/#normalize making predictions based on the actual books and not just assumptions based on vibes uwu#cleaning out my drafts prepare to be terrorized
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#it’s not ego or irrationality when yknow. you DID perform The Miracle #dany doesn’t even really think she is the prophesied hero she just nods politely when other people say it. #you know who IS delusional about this. stannis. it’s his most compelling trait
also after walking into a pyre to die at the lowest moment of her 14 year old life and instead of burning to death enacting the miracle from her prophetic dreams that everyone in her family died and failed trying to do that brings magic back into the world for the first time in 300 years and three dragons who are loyal only to her and the next day there’s a giant red comet in the sky. what is this tenth grader supposed to do NOT suspect a little bit that she’s the messiah.
#it's not being delusional or egotistical when you are literally the fulfillment of the prophecy#heck dany hasn't even heard about the prophecy yet! people immediately around her are just stating facts that she brought dragons back#eventually when she actually finds out about azor ahai / tptwp *then* by facts of absolute truth she will have to agree#(she'll likely also fulfill tswmtw but again i'm sure it'll be something someone tells her she is rather than her claiming it for herself)#also re stannis he alas fell for mel telling him he was special because she was the first person ever to give him positive feedback 😭#asoiaf#asoiaf meta#valyrianscrolls#daenerys targaryen#asoiaf prophecies#the prince that was promised#azor ahai#the red comet#stannis baratheon#oh fandom#queue and me we're in this together now
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