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letterstothemidnightsociety · 4 years ago

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THURSDAY OCTOBER 8, one of the longest running television shows of our time begins airing the final episodes of it’s final season. Guys, Supernatural is 15. FIFTEEN. It can practically drive a car now. As one friend put it, “that show had a Quinceañera.” And if you don’t know how significant that is, think of the last show you know of that made it to season 10. Take your time, I’ll wait.

Whoever I stole this birthday invite from, they are probably older than this show.

I started watching Supernatural in 2008. I was 19, I had just begun my journey towards Over-Worked, Under-Slept Millennial, and my best friend recommended it. I can’t really remember how the conversation went, but I’m sure at some point it was “It’s scary, and it’s got these two brothers, I’ll send you a link!” cuz we were trash and we were broke and Netflix...existed? Hulu existed, but not in the way that either of those sites work now, so we watched by...ahem...other means. It is probably why my first laptop stopped working after 3 semesters of college.

And damn, I was hooked. I don’t do scary movies and honestly, I was legit creeped out by a lot of these episodes, but it had two hot dudes who took down a monster every week and then (the real kicker) had a bigger, season-long mystery they were trying to solve. And occasionally, they got punched in their big dumb beautiful faces. If I had known what a kink was at the time, I would have said that someone was reading my dream diary.

Over the next 12 years - Let me say that again for those of you in the back - TWELVE YEARS - I had an on-again-off-again relationship with the Winchesters. It was pretty hot and heavy in the beginning. I was jumping on the back of this 67 Chevy Impala 3 years in, so I had three seasons that I bought on DVD that I binged and was caught up with season 4 by the time the midseason started to air in late January of 2009. I was introducing all my friends to Supernatural, I made several people watch the entire first disc of season 1 with me, irregardless of whether they’d asked or not. Things started to cool down towards the end of season 4 as life started picking up and I know...I caught...the tail end of season 5? I think? I distinctly remember the final scene of the final episode, but honestly, I can’t remember how much of that season I actually watched.

At that point, I considered Supernatural to be a weird pseudoaddiction. I’d be clean for a while, years even, and then Netflix caught up with consumers and I could binge whole seasons in a weekend. It’d be, oh, I could just watch an episode. Just one episode. Maybe two. And then the weekend is gone in a blaze of classic rock and rock salt and I’m left with something like but not necessarily a hangover where my feelings live. I think I did this for seasons 6 through, like, 8? Eventually, Netflix stopped putting it at the top of my dashboard and it was easier to avoid. And I said to myself, well, when they finally get to the last season, THEN I’ll go on one last run, one last big score, and watch the whole series again in one go.

But the seasons kept coming?? And they?? Didn’t stop?? Guys, I don’t know how many of you care about this but, Friends, one of the most popular sitcoms of all time that defined an entire generation had ten seasons. TEN. Supernatural is ending with fifteen! For an industry where most shows don’t make it past a pilot, let alone a season 1, this is INSANE.

But now it’s ending. Even though a pandemic halted production just two episodes away from the finale, Supernatural is finally outta cassette tapes. The Wayward Sons may finally (??) be laying their wearied heads to rest (?? lol, I know).

And frankly, 2020’s been a real sh*tshow so I thought “Why not?”

And if I’m doing this and I’m not interacting with anyone on a human level, I might as well chronicle this epic dive into a time capsule of television because frankly, what the hell else am I doing?

Cuz that’s what this is guys. 15 years in TV time is multiple lifespans. Shows are born, grow into something Emmy-worthy, and die in less time than Supernatural has been on the air. You know what else aired their pilot episode in 2005? The American version of The Office. You know when The Office ended? 2013.

So let’s talk about pilots because that in and of itself may be a thing of the past not too far from now.

Guys, I love pilots. I will probably say this a lot over the next, uhhhh...many months, but I love pilots and I love season ones, especially for a sci-fi and fantasy shows because that’s where your characters are at their most vulnerable, their most unsure. The writers and producers are really digging around, trying to figure out what the groundwork for this world is and there’s something so exciting about exploring it with them, as an audience.

Pilot’s are great, pilots on spec are even better, and that’s a lot of what the Supernatural Pilot feels like. It’s got a real indie/guerilla-style horror movie vibe, like the crew scraped together just enough cash for that one special effect scene but had to skimp out on a lot of the other production stuff, and still managed to turn something around that is totally, 100% watchable and somehow more charming than if they’d had the budget to make something really polished? Go watch Night of the Living Dead (1968) and tell me that movie would have been better if they’d had a bigger budget. You could, but I won’t agree.

Ok so a quick break down of technical terms. A television pilot is basically the first episode of a TV show. Well, that’s not exactly true. A pilot is kind of like making a sample or a blueprint of your show that you hand over to the television networks and say, here! This is what my TV show will look like. Will you pay me money to continue making it? And the networks (think ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and The CW - remember, this is Network, not cable) will spend January through April of every year reviewing pilots and deciding if they want to pay you money to make more episodes. Well, every year except 2020. See: sh*tshow. Sometimes the network comes to you with an idea, or maybe, you’ve pitched your script/show to some executives and they buy in for that first pilot episode to see where things will go. Neither of these scenarios are a sure thing, and pilot season is always rife with will-they-won’t-they tension. In fact, if you’re working on the show, there’s a real possibility that pilot will get re-shot after studio notes, you’ll lose your job to someone the studio liked better, and then the show still may not get picked up. A pilot shot on spec is in even more of a limbo scenario because nobody asked for this! And just to follow through on Pilot Season - after the networks decide to buy your pilot, they then air the pilot at Upfronts (usually in May) where their many ad companies decide if they will pay money to air their ads during those shows. This is where we get things like prime time and key demographics - if you thought TV was all about the art, you are very wrong. TV, like most other industries, is still a business that’s about making money.

Back to the Supernatural pilot. Now, from my research, series creator Eric Kripke had been working on the concept for 10 years. He was big into classic rock, big into urban legends and big into cowboys and all those things get married ever so neatly in this show. A lot of his initial ideas remain unchanged, at least for the first season - he wants two brothers, traveling across the country, facing off with America’s Spookiest Myths and legends. A lot of it did change. I honestly feel like I remember reading an early draft of the pilot where Sam and Dean are cowboys? But I’m also pretty sure I’m imaging that. What I’m not imagining is this ridiculous early draft where John’s been locked in an insane asylum, dies before the first episode starts, and Sam’s been living with an aunt and uncle his whole life and knows nothing. They still use something close enough to the La Llorona legend as the catalyst for the episode, but a lot of other things are changed. This is not the Sam and Dean we come to know and love. This is also a good example of when you SHOULD listen to notes, because this draft was rewritten after executive producer McG and his Wonderland Sound and Vision production company signed on, but before they actually shot the script.

Now from what I’ve read, the WB picked the show up for (4) episodes initially, and ultimately picked it up for a full season of (22) episodes. This was, at the time, a pretty standard season and a pretty standard way to get it. They had a better deal than The Office, anyway, which only got picked up for (6) episodes in their first season, then got picked up four episodes at a time for season 2.

Now let’s go over that paragraph one more time and talk about what a hecking DINOSAUR this show is -

FIRST off - Supernatural premiered on THE WB. It PREDATES The CW!!

Man guys, you remember they had a frog as a mascot? Oof, that would not work today.

Secondly, it got 22 EPISODES. We’ll get into this some more when we talk about that evil bugs filler ep, but think about how many episodes were in the last show that you binged on Netflix? 8? Maybe 10?

Welcome to the exciting world of GRAPHS brought to you buy https://www.theringer.com/tv/2017/8/4/16094348/inefficiency-week-mourning-the-lost-long-tv-season

OH! And SPEAKING of Netflix and streaming services like them, they’re kind of killing pilot season AND upfronts. They pick up shows when they want to. They “air” them when they feel like. There are no ads because you pay for that content on a monthly basis and also they don’t even have commercial breaks. I am slowly seeing the passage of time in one (1) episode of television and I think I’ve aged 100 years.

Here is just one of MANY articles about the death of Pilot Season

Finally, and most importantly, this show got a better deal than The Office. And that show was an NBC primetime show.

This show was nominated for 193 awards and won 50. And it ended when my nephew was still in kindergarten. He’s gonna be in high school next year.

So what about this Supernatural Pilot? Was it any good? Honestly, I’m gonna say yeah. This is some very solid Hero’s Journey here. I think the only weird thing about it is that Sam is our Hero, our point of contact character that gets us into this world. And I only say that because I’ll be real up front and say that I’m a Dean girl through and through. I don’t hate Sam, but because we live in a world where we have to choose, it’s Dean 4Eva.

From that early script draft, we learn the plan was for Sam to be in the dark and essentially be our audience stand in so that Dean can explain all the backstory. I think the decision to make John Winchester raise his kids as a weird fringe paramilitary outfit and establish Sam as the brother that tried to get away is a good one. It’s a very “Arrive Late” (or if you’re fancy, in media res,) sort of attitude and it works and you’ve already started building in the Atonement with the Father. There’s still some pretty excellent exposition dialogue, but what are ya gonna do. Sam, did you really need to explain to Dean that your collective father “raised you like warriors”? Or that you “kill everything we CAN find?” It’s fine. You’re beautiful and I love you. But also, he knows all that.

You have the Call to Adventure - Dean showing up and saying “Dad hasn’t been home in a few days.” You have the refusal of the call (“He’ll sleep it off”). You have your supernatural aid (hah!) giving Sam a push out the door - that’s Dean. You have your famous line that I quoted along with the TV - Dad’s on a hunting trip. And he hasn’t been home in a few days.

The dead mom backstory seems pretty on the nose, but the “burned on the ceiling” concept was new and unique enough that I was intrigued to find out more. Listen, I’ve already admitted I don’t watch a lot of horror so if this has been done before, don’t @ me.

La Llorona or Woman in White or Weeping Woman was a new trope to me at the time, so it too seemed fresh. I see that myth show up in a lot more Supernatural-type shows now, but in 2008, at 19, I was like, oh this is different. Not to mention - this definitely leaned in to the horror aspect. I know I’m a baby, but it aired at 9pm, which is the more adult side of Prime Time, so the WB thought it was too spooky for kids who had early bedtimes. So there.

I HATE when they do this cuz it freaks me out EVERY TIME and THAT’S NOT EVEN HOW THESE MIRRORS WORK??? SHE’S NOT EVEN IN THE BACK SEAT IN THIS SHOT!

And then at the END, when Sam STILL refuses the call to adventure, you have the real Crossing of the Threshold - Jess is ALSO stuck on the ceiling, dead, and on fire. Spoiler alert, but they had to fridge her early to make the rest of the season work and so it shouldn’t be a big surprise. Sam’s all in and we get 21 more episodes of him and Dean and that car.

Is it technically fridging if she’s lit on fire?

And let’s talk about Jess for a second cuz actress Adrianne Palicki is giving a LOT more in this performance than a fridged girlfriend should be required to. She’s likeable, she’s down to earth, she’s crushing it and and all this with only, like, two scenes of dialogue. I say this even though we meet her in a slutty nurse costume - COME on WB.

WB what the hell is this wardrobe. What the HELL is THIS.

In fact, all of the extras in this show are crushing it? Louis is instantly likeable and he disappears after his first scene, never to grace our TV’s again. And these extras in the town in Jericho, California - I kind of love them. As CW (or I guess, WB) as Jessica is, these extras look like they found them at the local highschool and I LOVE THEM FOR IT. They probably came to set already in makeup and wardrobe! They POSSIBLY brought their own jewelry! They’re weirdos and they are GREAT. I’m pretty sure this will NEVER happen again on this show because once the $$ came in, so did the more polished-looking one-off characters.

Lookit these magnificent goth weirdos! And great news, both these actresses have very full, non-goth careers after this.

Also, heckin’ Joseph Welch is just crushing it. This man has NOTHING CW about him and that’s maybe why I like him so much? Everything about the scene with him and Sam is pretty heartbreaking, from his rundown car graveyard to his rundown physique with his rundown accent to the fact that we never actually see his face. Seriously, really LOOK at this scene - WHAT is going on with this cinematography? Is this a reference to something? It’s SO bleached out and SO stark and WHAT is going on???

WHAT is this lighting? And also this guy was played by Steve Railsback was on X-Files!

You can’t talk about Supernatural without talking about the chemistry between Sam and Dean and that’s probably the real hook here? I mean a) very beautiful. I will probably talk about this a lot. Let’s call it what it is here, they’re beefcakes and they’re made for me and people like me. It is weird that this show is so macho but their primary audience was mostly there for the babes. And by babes I mean Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki. And b) they REALLY sell the whole brothers thing. They’re both from Austin, TX which feels like a weird coincidence. They were both already on WB shows before this one, also a weird coincidence. And they just click. They just do. It’s impressive, and occasionally creepy when we start to get into the Wincest of it all, but lets not talk about that.

Oh, and the MUSIC! The music just makes it. If you don’t believe me, watch the Netflix version of the first season and then find yourself a DVD version. See, TV shows need to acquire a license to play popular music during the show. Nowadays, the CW actually tags their songs in the episode so you can find and presumably buy it later, but they still have to pay royalties for using those pop songs. When Netflix acquired Supernatural, they did NOT acquire the licensing to use the classic rock songs from ACDC, Metallica, etc. and so you’re left with some pretty bland and generic production music that’s something like but not necessarily Back in Black. More like, Back in...Grey? This pun didn't work how I wanted it to.

And the show just...doesn’t work? Like, who knew BACKINBLAAAAACK! Was so instrumental to whether I thought this was quality programming or not. Side note - it ruins my favorite piece of dialogue of maybe the entire series -

Sam: I swear, man, you gotta update your cassette tape collection.

Dean: Why?

Sam: Well, for one, they're cassette tapes.

Do the young people even know what a cassette tape is? I AM the CRYPTKEEPER.

So yeah, you got a lot of ingredients to make something pretty great. Did we know then that it would launch a juggernaut of a television program that would still be on the air in the Year of Our Reckoning, 2020? I was a big fan of Firefly, so I was 99.99% sure this show was gonna get canceled at any second. In fact, I was thrilled, in 2008, to find there were two more seasons after the one I was currently watching. Of course, season 3 aired around the time of the great Writer’s Strike of ‘07, where nothing looked good and few programs survived, but we’ll get there.

In a final, kind of spooky, almost premonition-type decision the WB actually decided to air this pilot episode a whole week early on Yahoo!. Yeah, you remember Yahoo!, right? The search engine that briefly tried to have its own original streaming content and then we all abandoned it in favor of the monster that is Google? Yeah. This episode premiered online. I haven’t done enough research, but I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say this was probably one of the first ever TV shows to start on the internet? Weird to think that was a novel and innovative concept at one time.

So this is it. This is the end of the era. Are we gonna get any more shows that last as long as this one did? Who knows. Are we as a culture gonna care at that point? I don’t know. Our TV habits have changed so much in the last few years that it’s hard to say how we’ll watch TV in the future. But credit where it’s due, boys. Nice huntin’.

#Supernatural #season 1 #pilot #season 15 #Sam #Dean #Winchester #Television #Quarantine Binging #CW #WB

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ladydragonhawke · 5 years ago

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The Lesser of Two Evils

Season 15 fanfic starting exactly at the ending of Season 14.

For anyone who would like to have an easier reading experience here’s the link to the story

https://archiveofourown.org/works/20647562/chapters/49060295

SPOILERS FOR SEASON 14

CHAPTER 2/? WIP

Summary: Dean, Sam, Castiel, and Jack answer a 911 call and they pick up more than their fair share of chics.

Chapter 2: The First Steps

Dean was doing his damnest not to hit every single undead that appeared on the road. The sheer number of them was beginning to worry him. He swerved to avoid a rather large decaying body lumbering into the center of the road when his eyes caught sight of Sam holding his shoulder with the nearly completely red handkerchief.

“You better not bleed on my seats.” Dean half-heartily threatened. Trying to lighten the mood with some levity. Sam gave him an unamused glance and tried to adjust himself in his seat, when he suddenly felt a had on his back. Sam winced as he looked to find Jack’s hand on his shoulder and without a thought healed his bullet wound.

“T-thanks.” Stuttered Sam. He balled up the handkerchief and threw it out the window. It was the end of the world after all….and things were not looking good. Castiel gave Jack a look of warning and Jack shrunk into himself so as to not cause any more displeasure to Cas.

“Okay so, did Billie say anything about how this plan of hers involved us?” Sam turned to try to face Jack while bracing for all the violent swerving that Dean couldn’t avoid doing.

“She didn’t really tell me much other than what I already told you.” Jack stated. “She needs us alive and that she has an idea on how to deal with Chuck.”

“I wonder what idea that would be.” Dean hissed pressing the gas just a little bit harder.

“Maybe she’ll enlighten us later we just need to get out of the line of fire of these… things. Cas you got any idea what’s going on here?” Sam asked trying to get a better look at some of the dead for any clues.

“Chuck said this is the end times so if we go by…” Castiel was interrupted by a massive blast of celestial wind that seemed to knock both him and Jack a little askew. Baby even skidded a bit sideways in reaction to the sudden burst of energy taking everyone by surprise.

“What the hell was that? Is that part of it?” Dean asked, fighting to take back control of the veering Baby.

“I’m not sure what that was, just a massive celestial energy that…” He was interrupted by another blast even bigger than the previous one. Forcing baby and all it’s occupants completely off the road. They flew a good ten feet into an open field only rolling once but baby landed safely on all four tires. Not to say that all inside were shaken up pretty good.

“Alright, what the Hell?!” Dean was the first to shout after a few good moments to make sure everyone was alive and okay.

“There appears to have been another massive wave of celestial energy. I know not what may have caused it but…it felt something like God creating something.” Dean spun around in his seat to find Castiel’s face pale and sweaty. Castiel liked being human in some ways sweating wasn’t one of them.

“Let’s just make it to the Bunker and see if we can figure this out.” Dean started Baby back up and after a few good turns of the key she roared back to life. As they got back on the road, they found that the undead were oddly less in number on the road, but nobody addressed it. Didn’t want to jinx a good thing, if you could call that good.

After a few good hours of driving and experiencing a decent handful of near misses with hoards of undead Baby and company finally made it to the bunker in one piece, albeit a bit shaken up. Dean takes a moment to assess the damage done to Baby and groans in frustration, nothing to be done about it now, they’ve got bigger fish to fry. Everyone filed toward the main room but before they can get anywhere, they had to find the shut off switch for all the alarms going off inside the bunker. Every alarm the place was built for was going off at once. It took way longer than anticipated to turn them all off, but not without leaving nearly everyone with some form of a headache.

“Phones are down, so is the internet.” Sam stated, trying not to think of the hell that was most likely going on outside.

“I’m trying the CB, but all I’m getting is static.” Dean mumbled. “Anything on Angel radio?” He glanced toward Castiel who was standing in place with his eyes shut.

“It’s quiet, too quiet.” He looked at Jack, “Can you hear anything?”

“Nothing.” Jack sighed.

They each in turn looked at another taking in the situation, it was The End. One of innumerable amount of End’s that they’ve come across. They’ve come through on all the other Ends, albeit a little worse for wear but this, according to them was just another day. Dean began mulling over everything that happened, from the moment Chuck showed up to the moment he left starting the end of it all.

“He’s running scared.” Dean pipped up, “Chuck is running scared, did you see how fast he…killed you?” he gestured to Jack trying to start conversation to cleanse the silence that was beginning to unnerve him. But the memory of Jack being burned by Chuck was still a fresh wound that hadn’t quite healed yet. You’d think he’d be used to this by now.

“He did seem a bit worried, more than usual.” Sam pondered. “If he could have killed Jack this whole time, why bother going through the trouble of making you do it? What was the point?” He flopped into one of the chairs around the lit table that appeared to be covered with nothing but read and blue dots scattering across the map.

“Who the hell knows. Just some other test?” Dean started, “Maybe he wanted a perfect ending to his story, or some new chapter.” He paused, “We screwed up something he had going…” He looked to Castiel with a pained look searching for some meaning as to why things were going so far south. But before Castiel could give Dean some words of comfort there was a broken voice coming from the CB radio behind Dean.

“Dean…boys…Hell…” The voice sounded female and justifiably shaky. Dean rushed to grab the mic as he sat in front of the CB, turning the dials to filter through the static.

“Boys…what…. There’s too many…girls… hunkered down but…. last… backup?” Dean was able to make out that it was Jody on the other end, and through the scattered words he got the gist of what she may have been asking.

He pushed the button and started slowly, “Jody, what’s your 20? Again, Jody what is your 20? We’ll come to you. I repeat, we’ll come to you.” He was trying not to sound desperate, but he couldn’t even think of losing, no he pushed the thought to the back of his mind and focused on the broken voice coming from the CB.

“On way… you actually… stopped… gas and supplies… Colby… twenty-four… surrounded… Donna inside… about two hours out… like crazy…” Jody called back.

“She’s at Colby on route twenty-four, you gettin’ ready?” Dean turned to find Sam already packing two large duffel bags with every weapon he could think of. Jack and Castiel were readying the other duffel with bottles of water and some first aid kits. Dean smirked and turned back to the radio.

“We’re on our way Jody, I repeat we’re on our way. Stay put. Over.” He held the mic with bated breath for Jody’s replay.

“Roger… going anywhere… over.” She sounded at least a little relieved, but they’d have to hustle big time to get there before something happened. “Two hours? I’ll be there in one.” Thought Dean as he jumped out of his chair grabbing one of the duffel bags and followed everyone as they made for the Impala. Baby may get more beat up for this, but Dean would sooner go to Hell than leave Jody and the girls to die in this hellscape.

As they sped toward Colby Sam looked out the windows noticing there seemed to be a distinct lack of undead in their area. Dean wasn’t having to swerve nearly as much as before and there seemed to be quite an absence of bodies on the road. Sam took a moment to pull out a Bible he had stashed in one of the duffel bags.

“Really?” Dean scoffed.

“Do you want to know what’s going on? Cuz I do. It may not be the perfect source material but it’s something. Not like I can use the internet for research.” He kept flipping the pages searching for the Revelations portion of the Bible. Upon finding it he started to dive into the verses searching for anything familiar to their current situation.

“Well he’s bypassed the seals and the four riders.” Sam started flipping more pages.

“Not true if you count that they were indeed all here at one point.” Castiel interjected.

“Yea but we stopped them. The dead rose then as well but it was just that one cemetery close to Bobby’s.” Sam mulled over the events of the past trying to place any connection to now.

“What I’m more concerned about, is what happened to the sun?” Castiel gestured with his finger where the sun should still be overhead them as it was a little past three o’clock.

“All that happened at noon?” Asked Sam as his eyes lit up as he remembered seeing something about that while flipping pages.

“A little before or right at.” Castiel affirmed.

“Listen to this, “But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.” Sam recited. “Here’s another one, "It will come about in that day," declares the Lord GOD, "That I will make the sun go down at noon And make the earth dark in broad daylight.”

“Well I don’t see any stars falling.” Dean remarked. “Unless it’s talking about when all the angels fell when we were doing the trials.” He glanced at Sam who was wearing a face of slight worry as they both recounted that fateful day and how horrible they both felt for almost having gone through with it. “Aw man this whole thing is out of whack.” Dean grumbled resigned to just drive like a bandit toward their destination while trying not to think too heavily on what all this is supposed to mean.

“The sun didn’t just go dark either… it’s like it’s…” Sam stuttered.

“Gone.” Finished Castiel.

Silence fell in the Impala as they all realized just what the weight of loosing a sun meant for just about everything in their solar system. But before anyone could pipe up the courage to break the silence Dean swerved the Impala nearly hitting a sudden group of undead that seemed to appear from nowhere.

“Damn!” Dean veered as he clipped a few of the undead on the opposite side of the road, taking out one of Baby’s headlights in the process.

“I see a gas station!” shouted Jack as he pointed toward a blinking sign for a small station named Corner Pump it was completely surrounded by undead, but through the hoards Sam was able to make out Jody’s truck.

“I have eyes on Jody.” Sam stated as he tossed the Bible back into the duffel and fumbled around for an angel blade and a machete, all while keeping an eye on a few of the undead that happened to take notice of their arrival. “She’s stuck in her truck, but I don’t see anyone else.” He peeled his eyes away from her to look at the store that was somewhat fortified with makeshift pallet boards on the windows and the door was being pounded on by more than a few bodies. Dean spun around in the drivers seat to grab Jack by his arm.

“You good kid?” Deans’ face was lined with worry. They never did get to go over how Jack really came back, and if he came back whole this time.

“I have my soul back so no need to worry. I won’t push myself too hard.” He looked into Dean’s eyes with such determination, it didn’t quite make him feel all too comfortable about this, but at least the kid was being straight with him.

“Alrighty then. Keep an eye on him Cas.” Dean tapped Jacks arm with approval and grabbed the angel blade waiting for him from Sams’ hand. “Let’s do this.” He growled as they all exited the Impala and started in on the few zombies that had taken notice of them.

They used the knowledge that they couldn’t be killed but just incapacitated by knocking out their legs or removing their kneecaps. Makes running from these things easier when they can only crawl on the ground. Dean made a motion with his hands and they split into groups of two, Castiel and Jack moved toward the store as Sam and Dean made their way to Jody’s car. They hacked and slashed as many legs as they could to incapacitate as many as possible before finally reaching the driver side door to find Jody absolutely ecstatic that the boys had made it to her without dying in the process.

“Bout time you boys showed up!” She shouted as she rolled down the window partly so she could have an easier time hearing them.

“Who’s all here?” Dean asked as he took out another undeads knees causing it to collapse backward onto the ground and grumble loudly.

“Claire, Alex, Donna, and myself. They all went in when it was calm, and these things just came out of nowhere and swamped us. You boys wasted no time.” She called out. “What the hell happened, and don’t tell me it involves you guys!” her frustration mounted as Dean gave her a look she didn’t quite like.

“We’ll explain later, for now let’s just get everyone to the bunker.” Dean shouted above the groans of the zombies that slowly began converging in on him and Sam.

“Roger that, I’ve got an idea.” Jody rolled the window back up and slammed the truck into reverse, running over any and all undead that were behind her. Dean gave her a look of surprise and mild amused approval. “Not bad.” She then jerked it back into drive and lunged the car forward directly in front of the vacant front door that Cas and Jack had cleared of all undead.

Sam and Dean took that as the signal to get back into Baby and move her closer to the door themselves. On the way to the Impala they saw that the hoard of zombies was growing larger as more poured in from somewhere in the town nearby behind the gas station.

Inside the store Castiel and Jack were taking in the wounded and healing them to the best of their ability, meaning mostly Jack did the healing as Castiel made sure no one was panicking too much. There were five people altogether in the store, Claire, Alex, Donna, a young girl who looked like the clerk of the store, and an older man.

“How did you people do that?” The older man started to panic “Who are you people?”

“We’re here to help.” Castiel stated flatly as he looked to Claire. “I’m so glad you’re safe.” He made a move to hug her which she accepted thoroughly.

“How did you guys find us?” Donna asked in obvious wonder.

“Jody was able to reach us on the CB. Now we need to get you all out of here. Can everyone fit in Jodys’ truck?” Castiel asked looking to Donna as he dropped Claires’ embrace but not without leaving one hand on her shoulder for support. She was obviously rattled at their current situation.

“I brought mine as well.” Stated Donna as she made a move to look out of one of the store windows. She jumped back as she witnessed Jodys’ truck lunge forward to directly in front of the door. “But I think we’ll just hop on in hers. Let’s get a move out.” She started herding everyone toward the front as Jody could be heard just outside call them all to get the hell in. Without too much delay they piled into her truck one after another, each carrying some supplies as Jack and Castiel kept a close watch on the impending zombies that were starting to file in from behind her truck. Suddenly the Impala came crashing into a few of them before they could get too close to the tail end of Jody’s truck. After everyone was in the truck Jack and Castiel shut both doors and tapped on the side to signal to get out while they can. Jody wasted no time in peeling out of the gas station as fast as she could while keeping a keen eye on the Impala. She wasn’t about to leave them without making sure they were able to make it out of there themselves. Castiel and Jack jumped into the backseat as Dean slammed on the gas causing the tires to squeal as they lurched out of there without a moment to lose.

Baby’s one headlight was still going strong but now had a faint shade of red. Dean pressed the gas a bit harder to overtake Jody so that he could lead them toward the bunker. He decided to try the route that seemed to be bereft of any undead on their way there, that may provide them with some breathing room.

The amount of dodging they had to do was still substantial and nearly made Jody lose them once when a group became virtually too large to maneuver around. But as they neared the bunker the amount of them slowed to a trickle, then to hardly any at all. Jody felt anything other than comfort at this, the whole thing made her uneasy, but she kept her eyes peeled for anything. Then through the dark she noticed a shape, it looked like an undead but the movements it was making didn’t really seem like one. The boys didn’t seem to see it or if they did, they made no motion to acknowledge it. Once her headlights hit it, she instantly realized it was a person. She started to slow down to get a better look. The woman looked to be injured and was walking without too much of a stumble, she was trying to wave to get the attention of the boys, but they couldn’t see her due to the lack of light. The woman appeared to be holding her side that was red with blood. Jody stopped her truck just passed the injured woman and quickly slid out of the driver seat with her gun drawn and pointed directly at the womans’ chest.

“Are you one of them?!” Jody shouted toward the woman. She had stopped in her tracks after seeing the gun and held up one arm above her head while still holding one arm onto her bloody side.

“Those things? Do I really look like them now?” The woman panted with a slight chuckle.

Jody with her gun still trained on her walked closer to get a better look at the person who was miles away from any civilization. The woman had long curly red hair tied up in a ponytail that cascaded over one shoulder. All she was wearing from where Jody could see was a T-shirt, a grey hoodie, and jeans. One leg was red with blood running down to her shoes which were caked in mud and covered with blood. “Where did you come from?” She asked while eyeing her intently. Sam and Dean had spun around immediately upon noticing Jody had stopped following and was pulling up slowly behind her.

“What’s going on here Jody?” Asked Dean. He looked at the woman who Jody had a gun on and noticed that she was bleeding quite heavily.

“I came from Colby when…” She paused to either take in a breath or to get her thoughts together, “This whole nightmare started. I was swamped by… those things and…” She gasped as she took one step closer to Jody. “Please help me.” She huffed. Jody holstered her weapon which made Dean pull out his and train it on the woman as Jody walked up toward her. He wasn’t taking any chances.

“I’ll help you, now give me your arm.” Jody went to the woman’s good side and held her arm over her shoulders helping her carry her weight as they walked to the back of the truck where Jody opened the doors. “Could I get a little help here?” She looked over at the Impala signaling for one of them to assist her in some way. Castiel without missing a beat hopped out of the backseat and helped lift the injured woman into the truck and helped ease her down on some blankets in the back.

“Alex, you have a patient.” Jody called into the cab. Alex maneuvered around the other passengers in the truck to the back and began working on the woman who they picked up. She gasped at the sight of the wound the woman was trying to keep pressure on. It was as if she was clawed and gouged, Alex shook her head to rid herself of the thought of what could have happened and looked to Jody.

“Try to drive not too erratic.” Alex whispered to Jody as she went to close the doors.

“I won’t.” She reassured Alex. Jody sighed as she shut the doors and began walking back to the driver’s seat. Dean did an Uwe to get back on track, he slowly pulled the Impala alongside Jody.

“Everything okay there Jods? You sure about this?” Sam asked through the passenger window.

“Yea, um… She just looked like she needed help.” Jody smiled, but she felt somewhat uneasy about this encounter, she just couldn’t place her finger on it.

“Let’s get to the bunker, no more stops.” Dean called out from the driver side. He wasn’t trying to come off angry, but it was a bit too late for that.

“Alex will handle her. Let’s get movin’ boys.” Jody waved them forward as she wants to move past this anxiety building up inside her. When she returned to the driver’s seat Claire leaned over the middle console from her backseat so that no one else other than Jody and Donna could hear them.

“That was weird.”

“You’re not kidding. We’re almost there anyway.” Jody strapped in and tried not to jostle the truck too much as she could faintly her a moan of pain from the back.

They made it into the bunker in record time what with there hardly being any undead whatsoever outside. As everyone piled out of all vehicles Jody and Donna went to the back of the truck to see what help they could provide. Once they opened the doors and saw just how much cleanup Alex had done within such a short amount of time, they were stunned by how many blood-soaked rags were piled behind her.

“How is she?” Donna asked trying to get a closer look at the pale woman.

“Well she’s not a monster, I did everything. Silver, holy water, salt, the works. She’s just a human who is shockingly still alive. She bled out a good quart or two, I can’t imagine how she managed to stay conscious.” Alex moved to exit the truck and was stopped by a hand grabbing her wrist. The pale woman took a deep breath and went to lift herself off the floor of the truck.

“NO, wait don’t move! You’ll open the stitches!” Alex tried to stop her with her available hand, but the woman moved without listening and slowly lifted herself up, holding her breath the entire time she moved.

“I can…” She gasped as she began scooting herself toward the end of the truck. Alex got up slowly and moved to the woman’s’ good side to help her as much as she could without causing too much pain. Jody and Donna were waiting with arms outstretched at the end of the truck and helping the woman’s legs to find their way into a more suitable position.

“Boys! We’re going to need a gurney or something!” Donna called out. She was shocked to see Sam pushing a rolling gurney their way hurriedly. “You wasted no time.” Sam positioned the gurney as close to the woman as possible so that once she got up, she could immediately sit down on it. Once the woman was seated on the tail of the truck, she sat there for a few seconds catching her breath.

“Thanks…” She gasped.

“Don’t talk, just breathe. You can rest once you’re on this.” Alex scolded.

“Feisty…” The woman chuckled as she took several deep breaths before slowly getting to her feet. The moment she put her weight back on her legs her eyes widened in pain and she gritted her teeth in an effort to not scream in pain. Alex swiftly jumped down from the truck and gently grabbed her good arm and her other shoulder as she moved her to turn on the spot, so her rump was facing the gurney. Donna gently grabbed the woman’s arm and guided her to sit slowly on the gurney. As the woman sat, she let out all the air she was holding onto with her teeth still gritted in pain. The next step was going to be the hardest and all parties understood this. Alex moved to the lady’s feet, knelt down and held both of her feet in her hands while looking her straight in her eyes.

“As I lift up slowly, I want you to lay back as slowly as possible. Okay? Sam raise the back of it as high as it will go.” She ordered patiently. Alex wanted to move as slowly as possible so as to not upset the stitches she managed to put in, they weren’t her best, but they would stop the bleeding until they got to more solid ground. Sam raised it until it clicked at its full height, it wasn’t much but he knew it would make the process of laying down easier. He hadn’t seen the wound but could gauge by how many bloody rags he saw it wasn’t looking good.

“I’m ready.” The shaky voice from the woman made everyone want to stop this altogether. It was clear she wasn’t ready, but she seemed headstrong.

“Alright on three. One… Two… Three…” As Alex lifted the woman twisted and laid her head back slowly, the grunts and moans that the woman gave off made everyone uneasy. Blood from her side started to seep through her thin bandages. As soon as she was on the gurney fully her head lolled to one side lifelessly. Alex checked her pulse along her neck.

“Just passed out. Let’s get her to the infirmary.”

“Holy moley.” Donna said aloud as Jody gave her a slight tap on the shoulder. Donna turned to help Jody and Claire retrieve all the supplies from the back of the truck. Dean kept the door open for Alex as he looked down on the pale woman and the red spot on her bandaged side grow larger. After they made it through the door Jack and Castiel helped guide her toward the infirmary.

“How is she?” Dean whispered to Sam. “And how the hell did she make it out there all by herself?”

“She doesn’t look to be doing too good. And I was wondering the same thing. How’d she make it all the way out there? Do you remember seeing any cars on the way?” He folded his arms and looked around at the girls who were handling the few supplies they had pretty well.

“Nada, although…” Dean stopped, pondering for a moment, “I didn’t even see her, Baby did have a headlight out. Who’s to say I missed a few cars as well.”

“I don’t know. We’ll have to wait till she’s doing better to ask her anything.” Sam resolved as he went to help Donna with what looked to be a heavy box. Dean went around and helped Jody move a few things into a few of the Bunker’s rooms that were vacant and ready for occupants.

Once everyone was settled in all their rooms, Castiel came into the main room where everyone was resting for a moment. He was helping Alex as much as he could with the wounded woman, healing what he could.

“Well, we’ve done all we can for the moment.” Castiel stated.

“How’s Alex?” Jody asked, taking a sip of water from her water bottle.

“She’s doing really well considering. She said she’ll join us in a moment.” Castiel walked over to Jack who was looking a little more than anxious.

“I could help.” Jack whispered to Castiel. “I could heal her.”

“No, not until we’re sure you’re… all you.”

“You still don’t think I have my soul back.” Jack sat down somewhat defeated. He understood where Castiel was coming from but felt helpless in that he wanted to aid as much as he could.

Castiel softened at the sight of his defeated surrogate son and knelt down to ensure his eyes met Jacks. “No one is saying that, but we want to be sure everything is okay before you start using too much of your powers.”

Jack fidgeted in his seat a bit then sighed, “All right.”

Alex walked into the main room waving her wet hands to dry them as she walked toward the table with water bottles sitting on top of them. She grabbed one and swiftly twisted off the cap downing a good portion of the water before finally taking the seat next to her.

“That woman is stronger than she looks!” She gasped between gulps. “I can see how she walked that far for that long.”

“How’s she doing now?” Donna asked handing her a sandwich from a pile on a plate that Claire had made. Alex took the sandwich gratefully and held it to her mouth.

“She’ll live.” She took a bite of her sandwich and gave a slight moan. “Damn Claire. You really went all out with these.”

“She does make a mean sandwich.” Piped up Dean, who was lounging in one of the chairs thoroughly enjoying his portion of sandwich. The girls chuckled and each giving Sam and Dean a look as if they’re waiting for information as to just what the hell was going on. Sam was quick to read the room and began telling the story by starting from the moment when Chuck decided to show up.

In the infirmary our wounded woman was resting quite peacefully while listening in on the conversation being held in the other room.

“So, this is how you mingle?” Came a voice directly in front of her. She opened her eyes to find Billie giving her a rather unbecoming look of both shock and amusement.

“It’s the best I could come up with.” Sterling fidgeted under the covers a bit, “Plus this is THE group.” She took this moment to fully take in the room around her.

“By faking a horrendous wound like that?” chuckled Billie, “I’m shocked they don’t think you’re not human.”

“Psh… I’m not worried about this. But I am worried about this place. I’m going to need to set some wards.” Sterling gazed about the room taking notice of the wards already set in place. “Most of these are weak, and nothing really stopping from him listening in.”

“You can do that?” Billie gave a look of amused shock.

“Honey I can do about anything.” Sterling retorted, “Also, by my account they’re missing a star, their Sun?” She postulated to Billie.

“You’re assuming correctly.”

“Well we can’t have that.” Sterling grumbled, “But in order for it not to interfere with the current projections of gravitational pull and…” Sterling looked to Billie who was giving her a look of impatience. “In two hours, I should be able to return their sun.”

“Wow.” Billie said flatly. “That’s all well and good, but what if he comes back?”

“He won’t.” Sterling said with a manner of seriousness that made Billie drop the subject all together.

“Then if it’s that easy why are you having to play sick.” She gestured toward Sterling’s fake wound.

“Who says I’m playing?” Sterling snipped back. With a breath she took a second before coming back. “I’ll reveal all when all parties are here and accounted for and…” She snapped her fingers as a strong ward silently and stealthily formed in every nook and cranny of the Bunker. “All measures are taken.” She finished. Billie gave her a look of mild approval.

“All right. I guess I’ll keep looking.” With a blink she was gone, leaving Sterling alone in her bed with her thoughts.

“That took a bit more out of me than I anticipated. I’ll rest for a bit then give making a new sun a go.” As she laid her head into her pillow, she slowly fell into the gap between sleeping and being awake. She still wanted to listen to the people that were kind enough to help her but relished in the sweet nothing that was sleep. She kept a mental track of the movement of time and when the moment came, she snapped her fingers once more. Within the other room she could hear the people loudly exclaiming what she already knew. She couldn’t help but smile as she longed to help these beings that Chuck had so poorly wronged. With that snap came the familiar feeling of falling and sharp stabbing pain that radiated throughout her whole body. It was a pain she thought she had grown accustomed to so long ago. She gasped for a second then regained her composure, this time she’ll really have to sleep. “Why’d he have to make the star that big in the first place! That was way more than I thought.” She thought as she slowly began to lose consciousness.

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twdmusicboxmystery · 8 years ago

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7x14: TD Details

Good morning! How was everyone’s Monday? So yesterday I focused mostly on character development and arcs. Two reasons for that 1) I was tired and didn’t want to write a longer piece for Monday morning. 2) The character development in this episode was really beautiful and I wanted to discuss it without distracting too much from it with other details.

Today, I’ll talk about specific details and symbolism I saw. At first, I didn’t think there was much. On my first watch, though I don’t actively look for symbols, usually at least a few jump out at me, but that wasn’t the case this week. However, upon re-watching I did find some interesting things.

One of the first images we see is this:

I’m not sure what they’re making here. Perhaps spear heads? There are four of them, though, coupled with the molten fire which I can’t help but relate to Beth/Still/S4. It also kind of looks like a candelabra.

I mentioned the emphasis on knives yesterday but wanted to go over the weird Enid/Savior scene again. I thought if I watched it again, some big light bulb would go on. It really didn’t. All I can say is that the scene was extremely random and it happened close to other suspicious things. This is close to where Daryl and Maggie hide, and there are tons of parallels between them and Bethyl in S4. There’s the extra emphasis placed on the knife when he takes it. Enid has been a proxy for Beth before and now she’s lost her knife. The fact that it was a Savior who took it is also interesting. That didn’t happen with Beth’s knife, but there’s tons of Negan/Savior symbolism around Beth. Finally, when he shoves the basket back toward her and she drops it, what falls out? Melons and cucumbers. Melons = the melon situation from last week and what I think it means for TD (X) and cucumbers = pickles = resurrection symbol. (X)

The savior guy also makes a time reference, btw. He says “we have time.” Super random thing to say. It took more time to correct Enid’s grammar than if you’d just let it alone, Dude. I couldn’t help but see a time reference. Again, not a straightforward theory that we can plug everything into and decide what it means, but I’m side-eyeing the details.

In the opening sequence, Enid puts a plate of food on the table in front of Maggie. This made me super excited, guys. Everyone remember the carrot theory? If not, check it out HERE. I said before that we’ve mostly seen baby carrots in the past. Seasons 4-6 had lots of carrot references, but they were either baby carrots, baby food carrots, or something along those lines. I made the statement that if we start seeing real, adult carrots, it will signal that we’ve entered or are about to enter the second cycle of the story (wherein Beth should appear). Yup. Big, adult carrots on Maggie’s plate here. Makes me happy.

Also, I’m pretty sure what Maggie actually eats here is an apple dipped in peanut butter. Both are food images we’ve seen a lot this season. They had the same plate of food sitting on the table in TTD, so it was emphasized there too.

(P.S. I’m not doing a TTD post this week. Didn’t find enough to constitute an entire post, so I’ll just talk about relevant stuff in this and other posts.)

Maggie making a list. This is awesome! Just her writing something in a notebook would have been enough to catch my attention. But check out this list, guys. Everything on it can be related to Beth somehow:

Scrap metal makes me think of the junk yard. We don’t know how that will relate to her yet, but given all the symbolism around Boots, I’m sure it will eventually. Batteries (battery theory). New generator (Lamp Theory). Pretty sure it says, “Ask Eduardo,” but at first I Thought it said Edwards and I about had a heart attack. Still, the names are very similar. Horses (Horse Theory). Weapons, cuz obviously. And Emergency Exit. That’s referring to the tunnel Sasha and Rosita escape through. Sasha remarks that Maggie made it because she thought they needed an emergency exit.

A couple of things are interesting about that. When they first went through the tunnel–and the fact that they called it a tunnel–I immediately thought Dark Tunnel Symbolism (X, X, X). I’m not sure that applies here because 1) we didn’t see the tunnel. Usually it’s a darkness and light thing. 2) Both Sasha and Rosita made it out without incident.

…Or did they? I don’t know. We’ll have to see where this goes. If Sasha dies, then you could argue that, in an extended way, maybe she didn’t. Remember that Sonequa’s name is now in the dark tunnel in the opening credits, and has been for a while.

Maggie has had a lot of tunnel stuff before too. She and Glenn reunited in one in S4. She and Aaron went into one in S6 but ended up going back rather than through. Like I said, we’ll have to see where it goes before concluding more.

With Jesus and Maggie’s convo, it struck me how alike Jesus and Daryl are. He talked about growing up in a group home, and while Daryl didn’t, neither of them had very functional, nuclear families. He also talked about how when he first arrived, he was always leaving and had a hard time getting close to anyone. That sounds a lot like Daryl, especially in S1 and S2. Then we saw it again when he arrived at Alexandria. Not sure what the purpose of this is. I know Daryl’s character was always a lot like CB Jesus, so this may not point to anything at all. On the other hand, it might. I know in the CBs Jesus becomes Maggie’s right hand man, and we can see them sticking to that in the show. I feel like, even though they won’t be together romantically bc he’s gay, Jesus will kind of be Maggie’s other half now. Again, not in a romantic sense, but he’ll compliment her and they’ll rely on one another and be together all the time now. So it’ll be Beth/Daryl and Maggie/Jesus. They’re practically twin pairs. (Heaven knows we’ve seen the twin symbolism in the show before.)

Maggie mentioned riot gear, which was a callback to the prison and specifically to Glenn.

When Sasha goes into the trailer, she opens a hollowed-out book and finds this:

Bullets, and keys. (Key Theory) If that’s not a callback to Grady, I don’t know what is. Not to mention, they’re “hidden.” If this mission leads to Sasha’s death, and if that ushers in Beth’s return, then Sasha taking these bullets (and by extension going on this mission) might be the “key” to Beth’s return.

They also mentioned on TTD that this book was a copy of “A Farewell to Arms.” I don’t see anywhere in the scene where we can make out the title of the book. They wanted us to know that for some reason. I won’t go into details here, but if you look up the plot synopsis of the book, a lot of it sounds like Sasha’s relationship to Bob. It’s a love story about two people who keep getting separated (due to the war) and then reuniting. So we could relate it to Bethyl too, but I honestly think this is more of a Sasha symbol and will probably inform her coming arc.

Red/green color scheme in this episode. In the scene with Sasha and Jesus, there’s a red hat hanging on a peg in the background. It looks a lot like a sheriff’s hat, though it’s probably a straw hat.

In that same scene, Sasha gives Enid something she was making for Maggie’s baby. Looks like a woven bracelet or something. It’s green.

We also saw green and red wires when Rosita was trying to hot wire the car. I think there were some others, but I didn’t write them down.

Apple theme. Besides the one Maggie ate with the peanut butter, we saw both Sasha and Jesus grab whole apples before leaving the trailer, and I think there were also some in the cellar where Daryl and Maggie hid.

Goats. When the Saviors arrive, Maggie, Daryl and Enid run right past some goats, one of which looks identical to Eastman’s goat, Tabitha. (Remember that’s the name of the girl in the bible who died and was resurrected by Christ. X) I’m totally side-eying the timing again here. Daryl and Maggie with their Still parallels, Enid with the veggies and the knife, Saviors coming, and Tabitha, a girl raised from the dead. When they go into the cellar, you can even see the green tractor in the background that Maggie used to flatten the gremlin/music box in ep 5.

Let’s talk Sasha and Rosita for a minute. We saw Rosita try and start two cars before she found one that worked. So first let’s appreciate the rule of 3s here. It was the third car that started for her. Also notice that to get that third car, they went into an enclosed area, and that’s really strange. They went into a fenced-in area, which was crawling with walkers, making it much more dangerous than staying outside the fence. I mean, what guarantee did they have that that car would start? Why take the risk? Once they got the car going, they took off, flattening several walkers on the way, and had to bust through the fence to get out.

This is SUPER suspicious to me. They set a FIRE using ALCOHOL to distract walkers, and there is a BLOND, BETHISH walker involved. And then they bust out in a car.

Many of us (yours truly included) think Beth will burn Grady down when she leaves it the second time. And remember that, when it comes to things that were filmed that we haven’t seen yet, Emily was seen driving a Grady car around the hospital grounds. I’m really feeling like this is a parallel/foreshadow for her leaving Grady.

Probably because of all the chain link, it also reminded me of Aaron and Daryl in the wolf trap. The shots of Sasha and Rosita in the front seat reminded me more of Daryl and Aaron than it did of Sasha and Abraham in 6a. Don’t know if that’s a thing, though. Could just be me.

Sasha wears the red necklace Abraham wore. Even Christian pointed out in TTD that it was odd Sasha kept it. I kinda think it’s a death omen for her. Abraham wore it, and I thought the fact that he dropped it meant he wouldn’t die, but maybe wearing it at all (kind like their name in the dark tunnel in the opening credits) means they’ll be the next to die.

While Sasha and Rosita walked to the Sanctuary, I also noticed a green dumpster, just like the one Glenn fell off (death/resurrection symbol) and railroad tracks with a railroad crossing sign. Railroads are definitely a symbol of death.

“Having a clean shot.” Sasha talks to Rosita about going into one of the buildings (on the EAST Side of the Sanctuary, btw) so she can get a clean shot and they all get out alive. Then, when she tries, there are too many people standing around Negan and she says she doesn’t have a clean shot. The phrase is repeated multiple times in the episode. I couldn’t help but think of Beth’s strange shooting, whether someone had a clean shot and took it, or perhaps the opposite. Maybe they didn’t have a clean shot of what they were aiming at and took it anyway and that’s why Beth got shot. Anyway, just made me think along those lines.

Another thing: the brick building where Sasha and Rosita had their heart to heart looked a LOT like the warehouse in Coda where they took the Grady cops before the prisoner exchange.

@thegloriouscollectorlady pointed out a parallel with Sasha pointing her gun out the window.

In Coda, remember that Evil Officer Bob told Sasha he recognized one of the walkers on the outside as one of his former friends. She said she’d shoot the friend for him. Of course he double-crossed her, tried to escape, and died for it. Sasha survived the encounter, and I’ve always seen those events as a foreshadow of Beth surviving. See:

But in terms of Sasha’s arc, that may also have been a foreshadow of this episode. That one day she would attempt to kill Negan. (Remember that Grady/Grady cops are parallels to Sanctuary/Saviors.) In both cases, she didn’t get a chance to take her shot. Evil Officer Bob hurting Sasha could foreshadow her being hurt or killed in her assassination attempt against Negan. Either way, it’s a callback to Coda.

This building also bears a resemblance to the place she tried to stop in 4b, where she met up with Maggie again. That was probably a foreshadow to much of the rest of Sasha’s arc.

Theme about not wasting time. Rosita said, “I was stupid to waste so much time.” Earlier in the episode, Jesus said to Sasha, “It’s a long life, until it’s not.” Maggie also said to Jesus, when he talked about having a hard time getting close to people, “You should try it sometime, even if it doesn’t last.” If you think about it, Sasha was hesitant with both Bob and Abraham. She’s never gone after her own happiness as much as other characters. Maybe she’s lost all of her chances when it comes to wasting time, but certainly Rosita has learned from this tragic circumstance with Abraham’s death. And we can hope that, after not telling Beth how he really felt, Daryl won’t waste time with Beth when she shows up again. You could also relate this to Richonne. Rick said they had to be together now, even if they eventually lost one another. Major theme for relationships here.

Finally, the doctor. He talked about having patients at the Hilltop who needed him, and then mentioned charts for his “on-going” patients. Seriously, other than Maggie, what on-going patients does he have. A doctor is needed in case anyone gets hurt, but we didn’t see anyone who was hurt or sick or being progressively treated. Obviously he means Maggie, and he couldn’t say that because she’s supposed to be dead. But they’re really emphasizing the fact that Maggie no longer has a doctor to look after her. Hmm. Wonder where they could find another one. ;D

There was a CPR sign in the background of the medical trailer. I noticed it several times. I debated whether to mention it because it’s a medical setting so having a poster like that really isn’t out of the ordinary. Then half a dozen followers sent messages to me about it, so it wasn’t just me. The word “resuscitate” is clearly visible in several shots.

Simon, when he comes to get the doctor, mentions cardamom, which felt very symbolic. I looked it up, but nothing jumped out at me. It’s a very expensive spice often used in Indian cooking, and is seen in some cultures as a sign of hospitality. (Hospitality may be what they were going for, as Simon is flippantly trying to convince the doctor that coming to the Sanctuary will be awesome.) The only possible TD tie would be that there are two kinds of cardamom. One is green. The green variety is the most expensive and is often called “true” cardamom. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think that’s it for today. Later in the week I’ll do a post about the knot motif, and then focus on some things other followers have sent me. ;D Have a great day, everyone! 💖💖💖

#td #beth greene #beth greene lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #td theory #td theories #team delusional #team defiance

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snap-spark-blog · 7 years ago

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taeyong meta (w citations) cuz im losing my mind

originally on twitter

UMM I started furiously typing without ANY organization but im here to summarize that this is a shitty essay about taeyong's change of character over the years and how it's driving me NUTS

--- the thing is i never bought into the whole "taeyong used to be a bad boy" narrative and the reason i started stanning him to begin with was finding out he's actually a gentle boy from NCT life and other interviews and realities shows and like......generally my thoughts on the scandal (which changes all the time and i dont know the whole story) is that first of all it's a stupid ass fucking issue to have a scandal around and that second it seems overboard to the point where SM rolled with it and made him apologize demurely and appear guilty rather than defend him in order to push his soft boy image even more? because they were creating a "cold and unapproachable" image FOR him during debut and actively having him and other members demonstrate that he's "actually really gentle" like, this was SM's own doing, which means as time went on especially when CB rolled around you can start to see that the "soft boy" who cooks and cleans and takes care of members like a good leader image is to some extent a construction as well because taeyong is not rly a natural leader, there are members who begin to stand out as having that role instead and taeyong can comfortably retreat a little into the regular person that he is WHICH, at that point, i loved even more because hey he's happy and that makes me happy, i know enough about the person at the core of "taeyong" to bias him no matter what kind of a person he is cuz its always within the bars of standard deviation. to me his image progressed smth along the lines of this starting from rookies era till about...like limitless even they really wanted to push his image as being a dancer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wEdZKC0orM), and when i first saw this i was in luv but the more i got to know him the more i realized this is something they would've choreographed for kai, it's a style of sharp snaps and smooth curves and hitting the points that kai loves doing, kai taemin etc like knowing SM's history of dancers this feels more like them than taeyong, and ofc being a rookie ty must learn to be ABLE to technically execute things like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvniaVnTKQI), cool sharp and hard hitting, which falls in line with the "seems cool but is sweet" dichotomy they had for him around NCT U/FT era (like grey hair era) and i ALWAYS think about this interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZMb7t_cH10) where they asked the team dance or music aND LIKE BESIDES WINWIN WHO OBV CHOSE DANCE TY CHOSE DANCE BUT I NEVER UNDERSTOOD IT BECAUSE its so different from how im used to when i watch dancers like i dont think taeyong necessarily worships dancing because he seems to LOVE music as much as dance because theyre both means to express himself thru (and i personally think he answered dance cuz he's "dancer" but fk do i know) and like from the moment limitless hit and he was put in a SOFT SWEATER and there were suddenly 9 people and johnny existed and carried them thru variety taeyong has significantly retreated more into the background and limitless is where he starts to FEEL his identity a little more and so he WRITES things like BDLI, he SAYS things like "i loved this line so much", because they're starting to move from their cool-but-not-quite-relatable, not quite touchable, exclusive and distant kind of music towards something more "true and free" which is at the core of the whole band's image (bUT LITERALLY!! WARM SWEATERS) and i cant say for sure it wouldve been this era when he relaxed his image a little more but this would be when i realized like "Ah this is just a regular kid who's good at some things" from the way members act around him and things they say and the things he does ofc its still genuine and he loves his members but its no longer "i go out of my way all the time to make sure everyone is ok" (like, like taeil johnny say he leads more by charisma and energy than by emotional care, more on this later) like he's just another person in the dorm, he's sensitive but also over sensitive he gets offended, he has disagreements w them, hes 20 something not a mother, hes just a kid who's talented and skilled and loves art and ofc i LOVED that and i wish i was fkcng around for this era but only in hindsight when CB era rolled around can i assume this is what linked the kid he was at debut with the MONSTER WE SEE NOW AND LIKE HERE COEMS CHERRY BOMB ERA WHICH IS MY FUCKING FAVE WHICH IS WHERE HE SAYS THINGS LIKE "I have an introverted personality but i think it makes me powerful; it helps me know myself better; it's like going through a "late-puberty"" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1LiUAqO1BA) AND THIS VIDEO KILLS ME EVERY FUCKING TIME BECAUSE YOU SEE IT............THE MOMENT HE GOT HIS PINK HAIR, THE MOMET HE GOT THOSE COLOR LENSES AND THE HEAVY EYE MAKEUP HE LITERALLY FINALLY WENT FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT HIMSELF IN THE MIRROR (https://www.instagram.com/p/BWzjNIEBj16/) TO LOOKING LIKE HE KNOWS EXACTLY HOW HOT HE IS LEADING THEIR TEAM AT THE CENTER OF THE FUCKING STAGE TO THE POINT WHERE HE TURNS HIMSELF ON (THAT CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!) TO WRITING THINGS LIKE WHIPLASH WHERE HE KNOWS HOW HOT IT IS THAT HE'S COME SO FAR AND BECOME SO CAPABLE (THE BEST OF THE BEST) AND HOW MUCH HOTTER IT IS THAT HE WANTS TO BE DOMMED, TO DOING WHAT ENDED MY LIFE TODAY IF THE MULTITUDE OF HALF-BONERS AND SEX FACES ON STAGE I NTHE PAST MONTH HASNT WHICH IS FLIRT ON NATIONAL TV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAyYCV1CnYc) AND CHECKING OUT A GIRL WITHOUT GIVING A SINGLE FUCK (https://twitter.com/moontaeyong95/status/921462333532200960/video/1) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LIKE ???? where did we come from ???? and where are we now???? 1. "cool looking good leader dancer soft boy" 2. more ambiguous, more real, stays true to his own multifaceted personality and style 3. an absolute beast coming to realize his power for the first time going back to dance: from recent solo stages and the way he's been dancing the choreo (more expressive, less perfect and rigid) i get the feeling like he's always been less about motional perfection than just feeling the music so much that he goes crazy with it, and that's more or less what i fucking love about NCT as a whole, is that nobody really has clearly defined roles, no one ever introduces themselve as "hello I'm NCT's rapper xxx", "I'm NCT's dancer xxx", because theyre all just "artists" without these arbitrary limits, and they can indulge in this in whatever form they like, as whatever aspect of their identities they feel like being today: "hello, i'm mark in a pink sweater." (http://www.vlive.tv/video/19700?channelCode=DEE409) it's not that he loves dance more than anything, its not that he loves rap more than anything, he just....he just fucking lvoes life? he loves his life? taeyong's artistry comes from whatever it is he's feeling within and in whatever form he's feeling it and that's what ive come to rly love about him, it's about appreciating what HE's feeling and how he's showing it to us and lately he's been so, SO into the music. he's so into it that i couldnt believe it at first and thought it meant he was tired (https://youtu.be/sQO3TJfOf7M) but he's actually and i quote egg, "probably just really turned on". and chuseok passed and i thought he'd go home and take care of his ~needs~ and come back after learning how to CHILL but I GUESS APPARENYL FUCKING NOT BECAUSE HE'S GOD DAMN WALKING DOWN THE STAIRS TO SEOUL FASHION WEEK LIKE HE KNOWS HES THE HOTTEST FUCKIG N THING IN THE WORLD AND CHECKING OUT THAT GIRL WITH SO MUCH CONFIDENCE AND THIS IS THE ULTIMATE POINT OF THIS POST IS THAT IM SO FUCKING GLAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT HE LOOKS SO CONFIDENT LIKE HES FINALLY GROWN INTO HIMSELF AND ACCEPTED THE REALITY OF HIS POTENTIAL AND ALL THAT HE CAN BE AND IS FINALLY TAKING CHARGE OF IT AND SHAPING IT INTO SOMETHING OF HIS OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LITERALLY CANT ASK FOR ANYTHING MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND ITS MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN ANYTHING HES DONE OS FAR AND IM LOSING MY G*D DAMN MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HES ON A RAMPAGE SM ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HOPE NOT CUZ I HOPE HE NEVER GETS STOPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's it this whole thing has no other purpose i just wanted to say i love him right now like this thank you for reading

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attract-mode-collective · 8 years ago

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Review: A Day with Sid, Ed, & CD-i

Longtime readers may be less than surprised to learn that I have a deep fondness for infomercials designed to sell game hardware, be they arcade machines or computers and consoles. Why? Well, they’re the perfect combination of the two things I loved most growing up, that being video games and late night television, both of which were at their absolute apex around the early 90s (IMHO).

The one I watched and loved the most was a 30 minute long piece of paid programming dedicated to the Phillips CD-i, which attempted to usher CD-ROM based entertainment into living rooms during the 16-bit era of gaming and ultimately failed, with much of its infamy due to the rather poor utilization of Nintendo IP that Phillips had access to (due to them being there to pick up the pieces of the SNES CD project, when Nintendo and Sony had a falling out).

Alas, I have yet to find an acceptable, let alone complete copy on YouTube. I should know; I regularly check and see if one has been finally uploaded. The bits and pieces that are currently present is the infomercial split into three parts (it was shared at a time in which uploads could not be longer than ten minutes), and even then, a sizable chunk of the beginning portion is missing. Though during a regular check, I came across the existence of a second informercial that I had no idea existed!

Despite the beginning being cut off here as well, enough of the set-up is present for the following half-hour to make sense. Basically, we have a pair of twin brothers in the same line of business, more or less: assisting those with technical difficulties.

Ed is a repair person who specializes in VCRs, game systems, and personal computers. Consumer tech that the informercial portrays as being less than consumer friendly, to the point that they’re practically consumer hostile. As such, Ed’s characterization reflects this stance; he’s slow, lazy, and aloof. Which is pretty much all the justification that Sid needs to swoop in and hijack Ed’s clientele, to then perform his role of CD-i salesperson.

Sid believes that he’s not so much stealing them but is instead “steering them in the right direction” and even describes himself as a “Robin Hood for the information age”. The dude loves his job, cuz he loves the CD-i! All of which is illustrated via three vignettes that the informercial presents. The first is Little Timmy and the Wrong Button and it depicts an early 90s mom and her young early 90s son, at the computer… dad’s computer to be exact. The scene opens with mom trying to get a game running by inserting a long string of DOS commands. When she has to step away from the computer, to refer to some manual that’s high atop the book shelf, her child disobeys the commandment of not touching the keyboard, which results in him completely erasing the hard drive.

Believe it or not, for the younger folks reading this, such a scene was somewhat common in television and film at the time: kids were portrayed as being dumb, unable to grasp technology. Crazy, I know! Anyhow, the point of this scene is to demonstrate that computers are super fragile and needlessly complicated, so mom makes a call to Ed, though Sid shows up instead (mom actually calls an office, where Ed’s boss is, who relays jobs to his repairman in the field via CB radio, which Sid snoops in on… kinda messed up, I know). As he barges inside the house, Sid states “So, you hit a pot hole in the information super highway, huh?”

Mom points towards the computer but Sid makes his way straight towards the TV and hooks up a later model of the CD-i, the one that resembles a game console, so I know it came after the other informercial, cuz that one featured the version of the hardware that looks like a VCR. Anyhow, Sid immediately starts doing his pitch, which is how the CD-i does everything a computer can, but instead of a tiny monitor on a desk, you can enjoy everything on your big ass living room TV and on the comfort of your couch.

And what’s the first piece of software to demonstrate the power of CD-i, to not only impress the young man in the skit but everyone watching at home? Why, an edutainment title called Crayon Factory. Seriously. Sid (presumably) gets the idea after noticing the young scribbling all over the walls of the house with crayons, though he’s a bit too old for such behavior. And thus we have my fave little touch of the informercial; when the kid inserts the disc, Sid adjusts it so its properly resting on the spool. Not sure why I like that so much…

But yeah, it’s hardly the first taste for the viewing audience at home that I would have chosen. Yet Crayon Factory is exciting enough for Sid to steal the controller (and a rather cheap looking one at that; on the long list of problems with the CD-i is the rather chintzy input devices) from the boy and play the game himself. While playing, Sid continues on with the hard sell, by noting “CD-i has everything you get with a CD-ROM… except the problems!” Which means zero loading time (not according to footage I’ve seen on YouTube) and no complicated equipment (speaking as a Mac guy, I will agree that PCs are hard to figure out, sorry). He also runs down all the other things that the machine can play, like music CDs (this is the early 90s and compact discs were still relatively new) and movies (with Four Weddings And A Funeral mentioned, the first instance of several) plus actual video games!

The first legit gameplay we see is of Chaos Control, a rather subpar on-rails shooter that heavily relies upon full motion video. But instead of the enemies being sprites that are super imposed on top, which is usually the case, here they’re part of the pre-rendered backdrop. So when you shoot something, it becomes obscured by a puff of smoke, and a really crappy looking one at that. It’s also worth noting that Chaos Control was released on other platforms, and I see the Japanese Sega Saturn version a lot when looking for imports on eBay. There are TONS of copies out there for sale and no one’s buying.

Mom is less than impressed, cuz she’s a woman, and women don’t play video games, according to the informercial. Though she’s also worried about how her husband will react to the loss of the computer (which is referred to as to simply “the CD-ROM”; I think it has less to do with a female being unfamiliar with tech yet again, and more with how no one on staff was fluent period). Which is why Sid bring up Palm Springs Golf, cuz all dads love golf, right? Though CD-is are for mothers as well, which is why Sid introduces her to Kathy Smith Personal Trainer, a work out video disc that has an aerobics instructor with an eye patch. Just figured I’d mention that.

After Four Weddings And A Funeral’s name is dropped for the second time (btw, not once does the informercial ever show a clip, we never even see what the packaging looks like), several other games are mentioned. Nothing manages to pique mom’s interest, until she finds out that there’s a CD-i version of Jeopardy, which is what allows mother and child to bond over technology, and in a way that simply is impossible via CD-ROM or any other old-fashioned piece of tech! As Sid exits the house, after successfully extolling the virtues of the CD-i yet again, he comes across Ed who is only now arriving (his tardiness is largely due to the nap he took on the way). Sid notes “not to make excuses for him, but Ed was born twenty minutes after me and has been late ever since.” Sick burn Sid, sick burn.

Afterwards is the first commercial break within the commercial programming, which is consistent with the format of the medium. This is the first opportunity for the viewing audience to purchase their own machine, for just 8 payments of $62.50? That’s $500. Plus $19.95 for shipping and handling (also, please allow 6 to 8 weeks for delivery). The selection of software and entertainment available is detailed, including yet another mention of Four Weddings And A Funeral (we are told there are plenty of movies for the platform, but we only ever hear about one specifically, with the key word here being “hear”). I seem to recall the Turbo Duo’s hefty price tag being justified with a slew of quality pack in titles, and the CD-i is no slouch in comparison… of the six discs included there’s Chaos Control (yawn), Space Ace (okay, that’s slightly better), Compton’s Encyclopedia (okay, before there was Wikipedia there were encyclopedias, so I can see Compton’s actually being a legit enticing piece of software at the time), and a Beatles cover record.

Next is our second tale of truth and discovery, entitled Game Machine. The scene opens up in a living room inhabited by three totally radical teens. The kid any gamer could at home could totally relate to! One’s playing an unspecified game console, another’s just rocking on to some killer tunes via headphones. Unfortunately he gets a bit into the music and ends up knocking over the console, which breaks (which upon freezing of the frame reveals an answering machine instead of a SNES or Genesis). This pisses of the third kid, who had been chillin’ on the couch, eating pizza while on his back (I used to that a lot as a kid… okay, not really). It’s his house and the console is technically his father’s, so a call for help is made.

As before, Sid intercepts Ed’s communiqué from his boss. And as one might expect, video games take center stage in this segment; first up is a full motion driven adventure game called Burn:Cycle that’s about cyber espionage though the mid 90s lens (the best kind, of course). Which is where my other fave shot from the infomercial shows up, right after one of them bites it. I love it when actors are supposed to do something that should be natural, yet either due to poor acting skills or a clueless director (I want to believe in this case it’s the latter), it comes off as anything but...

We then check in on Ed real quick, who is being proactive this time but unfortunately got the address wrong, so he instead shows up at some biker gang’s hideout. Back to Sid, who details the second game for the segment… and it’s Chaos Control for the second time?! Footage from Space Ace is shown after, which is odd, given the type of game that the CD-i was practically made for. Otherwise… we’re constantly told that there are 200 titles available, but the same ones that were showcased with the mom and the small boy are mentioned yet again, even the workout video.

This second segment is not as interesting as the first one, plus it’s not as long either. When the gamer dorks assume that dad has come home, they start panicking because the place is a mess, due to abundance of half eaten pizza slices all over the place (cuz, you know, teenagers). But it’s Ed, who got lost on the way; instead of the boys’ house, he encountered a biker gang. Though we get zero explanation as to what, if anything, had happened.

The ending is also fairly anticlimactic, and the whole thing’s a disappointment to be honest. After a repeat of the commercial break from before, we arrive at the third and final vignette, A VCR’s Last Meal. So you all know already what this one is going to be. As before, the scene opens up in a living room with a man and a woman, a couple sitting on the couch, watching a movie. Sid tells us that they’re movie buffs, though he also explains how their VCR has also developed “quite the appetite” for film as well, hence why they’re regular customers of Ed.

Not surprisingly, their tape (which we are told is Forest Gump, and not Four Weddings And A Funeral; talk about a missed opportunity to flex the CD-i version being superior over the VHS edition) is eaten up by their machine. A call is immediately made the guy has a slightly argumentative exchange on the phone, who states that because of their extended warranty, he wants Ed to give it another shot at fixing it. Ed gets the dispatch, but his hands are full, eating what appears to be two maybe even three slices of pizza at once...

At this point, the infomercial’s negative characterization of Ed and all that he represents officially went over the line. Sid, whose very healthy lunch is an assortment of fruit and vegetable slices and is an additional dig at his brother, decides to steal yet another client from Ed. What a jerk.

The moment Sid arrives, he barges himself into the couple’s abode, replaces the VCR with a CD-i and considers the job done. The dude wonders what the f and our pitchman explains that he’s offering a new way to consume movies. Sid identifies just one title… any guesses which… and then goes onto to tout the CD-quality sound. The girlfriend or wife (not sure what the nature of their relationship really is) seems immediately sold, but the boyfriend or husband is not. So Sid fires up a movie, and just when we see a “Feature Presentation” graphic, he suggests play a video game instead? Great, so Four Weddings And A Funeral is seriously the ONLY movie for the platform, which they either don’t have the rights to show footage from or maybe it’s not even ready.

The game we see is Caesars World of Boxing. Sid initially hands the controller over to the man but then gives it to the woman instead. Cuz it’s funny you see. Because women don’t play video games you see. We briefly cut to Ed who is having engine troubles, and then it’s back to the woman playing the boxing game. And only her. Not sure if it’s a one player game only or if Sid simply doesn’t have a second controller. Can you plug more than one controller into the machine? I honestly don’t know! The woman is way into the game, mostly the violence, so Sid cuts her bloodlust off by popping in the CD-i version of Clue. It’s a video board game that has clips of all the characters, and because it’s not footage from the famous movie, I didn’t care and you probably won’t either.

The third video game used to convince a movie buff couple as to why they should dump their VCR for a CD-i is Burn:Cycle of all things. Afterwards, while Sid is applying the icing on the cake by pointing out how machine also plays games in addition to video games and nonexistent movies, Ed shows up looking pretty pissed. And for good reason; this bother has been stealing his customers for the past 24 minutes, or should I say stealing Ed of his livelihood. What we get is a shot in which Sid and Ed are facing each other, and since it’s the same actor playing both roles once again, it’s a bit of trick photography, but because their eye lines are not meeting the special effect is less than convincing. Anyhow, as Ed rambles on about how the couple is like family, the woman slips in a copy of Mad Dog McCree. Given how it’s an interactive movie, front and center, why wasn’t it brought up front and center to the film fanatics? Then again, playing a light gun with a standard controller is always lame, so maybe that’s why it barely gets any screen time.

In the middle of this, Sid notes that it’s quitting time for both him and his brother, so cut to them sitting on the couch, alongside the couple, with Ed enjoying some Mad Dog McCree himself! Am shocked it’s not all of them watching a movie, Four Weddings And A Funeral of course (we don’t see what they’re seeing, so it could have been possible). Sid’s voice over states “A minute of CD-i and years of rivalry just disappeared!” The last shot we see, before the infomercial ends with the third and final showing of the commercial, is of the van driving off. Before it said Sid’s CD-i Sales but there’s been some alterations, and now it states Sid & Ed’s CD-i Sales. Isn’t that cute. Am assuming this would last for maybe 4 more months, until Sid was forced to adopt Ed’s line of work. Or who knows, maybe the two would go onto drive around town and pitching Atari Jaguars?

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