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giveamadeuschohisownmovie · 11 months ago
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After doing some thinking on this, I think the most interesting movie in the Creed-Rocky universe is “Creed II”:
While most of the movies in the franchise are good, Creed II fascinates me since it’s actually different in how it approaches the main conflict. Most of the movies follow the same formula of underdog boxer must triumph over superior opponent, while Creed II feels more focused on the behind-the-scenes drama and history.
This movie could’ve easily just been a revenge story. Adonis wants to avenge his dad, so he beats up the son of his dad’s killer. However, it feels like the writers of the movie wanted to dig deeper into this. While the revenge story would be simpler and more theatrical, Creed II instead asks the audience how this would be realistically.
And the answer is…really sad, actually.
You’d think that Adonis would be at Kill Bill-levels of vengeful, but he’s not. Instead, he’s more frustrated by how he’s expected to want to avenge his father. He just became world champion and yet the media is only talking about him fighting Viktor Drago. Even Donnie admits you can’t talk about the Creeds without talking about the Dragos. Sure, he does resent Ivan, of course he would. But he doesn’t have a beef with Viktor, and it shows.
Viktor wasn’t doing any better. Although he was trash talking Donnie, you can tell how frustrated he was with how he was being used to “restore” Ivan’s honor. He hated how the Russian leaders, especially his mother, were only treating him and his father well after he started winning in the ring. None of it felt genuine, it’s like he was just a racehorse to them.
When you look at Donnie and Viktor’s arcs as a whole, it’s fascinating just how the arcs work as an overall discussion on legacy. Legacy ends up being the true villain of the movie:
1) Donnie can’t establish his own legacy since he’s chained to his father’s legacy. Even though he has the belt, no one cared. They just wanted the spiritual successor to Apollo vs. Ivan.
2) Viktor was literally raised in hardship because of what happened to his father in the 1980s. Then, he realized he was being used as a way to restore his father’s legacy, which disgusted him.
3) For both Adonis and Viktor, neither of them harbored any actual hate to each other. Any feelings of resentment came solely from their fathers’ actions.
4) Rocky wouldn’t even put up pictures of his fight with Ivan, which makes sense since there wasn’t anything uplifting about that match. Sure, he ended the Cold War (lol) but it doesn’t change the fact that the fight was about vengeance.
5) Ivan was so traumatized by his defeat that he felt like he deserved his exiling. Exiled…for losing a damn boxing match. It took nearly losing his son in the ring for him to realize that reclaiming his lost glory was not worth it.
The end fight is, in my opinion, the most interesting showdown in the franchise. Instead of feeling like a battle between a hero and a villain, it felt more…therapeutic? It’s like Donnie and Viktor knew that they couldn’t move forward with their lives until they got this fight over with, so that’s what they do. You can tell there’s a feeling of relief on both ends once the fight finishes since Donnie got the win over Viktor (thus ending the media’s obsession over a Creed-Drago revenge match) and Ivan affirmed to Viktor that he’ll always have his father’s love.
I should note that there’s a deleted scene (it shouldn’t have been!) where Donnie, Viktor, and Ivan all make peace with each other. I feel like that was the point of making this sequel. It’s not a revenge story like what most people thought, it’s a story of healing, past trauma, generational conflict, and moving on from the past. That’s also why Creed III is a brilliant follow-up since, for the first time in the Creed series, it’s a movie that’s about Donnie’s legacy, not Apollo or Rocky’s.
Basically, Creed II treated the fight between the sons of Apollo and Ivan as an obligation that needed to be fulfilled. It’s funny since that actually works as meta commentary on the audience since that was what a lot of people wanted to see when the first Creed movie was announced. Once that obligation was finished, Donnie and Viktor were able to move on with their lives and establish their own legacies, as seen in Creed III.
And that’s kinda beautiful.
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hug-kiss-marry-kill · 7 months ago
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io-realityspecialist · 4 months ago
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Adonis Creed
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And in the Red Corner of Asteria, the reigning champion, Adonis “Hollywood” Creed! I’ve decided to analyze the character of Adonis Creed for this entry. He first appeared in Chapter 4 Season 1 in the item shop or for free in the CREED cup.
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This inclusion was definitely a cash grab. He’s a really good boxer but it’s not normally supposed to be life or death events, it’s just sports. It kind of defeats the point of having a boxer in the game if u use a gun the whole time. They gave him generic sci-fi stuff and it’s apparently supposed to be Bionic.
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Which brings me to the other big problem with his inclusion. The Creed movies are totally different from Fortnite. They’re grounded and realistic sports dramas where he deals with normal human problems.
He doesn’t deal with Multiversal threats, have superpowers, any supernatural encounters, he’s not even an assassin, he’s just a boxer. They had to include the Sci-Fi stuff to make it somewhat believable.
A boxer’s only as good as the equipment they train on, fortunately he took plenty with him into the loop.
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The Pickaxe is just a generic hunk of metal, The emotes pretty good, but the punching bag is more complicated. It fits in but unless you’re really strong, you can’t realistically carry a punching bag on ur back.
Conclusion
Not to state the obvious but the only reason he was in the game was to promote Creed III.
If you’re completely lost, check my pinned.
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ashesfordayz · 1 month ago
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Been thinking about Xmen Origins Wolverine lately 😂
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saysomethingabout · 1 year ago
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Say something good about this movie!
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ladyjmontilyet · 2 years ago
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i really liked the trailer for Creed III so I just watched Creed I & II on Prime and i did NOT expect to be tearing up towards the end of Creed II
when that white flag was thrown in... my dudes it almost destroyed me
i've only seen the first Rocky and also now these two Creed movies. if i'd known Tessa Thompson was in all the Creed movies i would have watched them a LOT earlier.
anyway now i need to book my ticket for the new one i guess because i need to see what's up with Jonathan Majors (he was the most phenomenal part of the Loki series playing the only character whose dialogue wasn't phoned in).
i saw Rocky in a film studies summer course when i was like 15 and i forgot i actually really liked that too. wild.
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nojillnolife · 11 months ago
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rubbish78 · 5 months ago
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Liev Schreiber and Hugh Jackman behind the scenes of 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine' (2009)
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hard-times-paramore · 17 days ago
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Reblog or like this post if you're active in the Assassin's Creed fandom but doesn't ship Desmond Miles with his ancestors.
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zanephillips · 1 year ago
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FLORIAN MUNTEANU Creed III (2023)
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giveamadeuschohisownmovie · 10 months ago
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Random thought for the night:
So it was established in “Creed III” that Donnie is a weeb. In the 2002 flashback, we see that he’s a Naruto fan since he owns a Naruto poster. What makes this interesting is that Naruto didn’t get an official American release/English dub until 2005.
So lowkey, the movie implied that Donnie was one of the weebs who’d go on the fan sites and watch everything subbed. Or maybe he had a relative who’d either buy the DVDs, had the bootleg CDs, or pirated everything (my cousins were definitely the latter). Either way, him owning that poster in that year implies he’s a weeb weeb. A “subbed over dubbed” weeb, something around that level.
I’m pretty sure MBJ just added the poster as a fun reference, but the implications are fun to think about.
(Now I will say, they should’ve gone with a poster from the original show because I’m pretty sure that poster was from Shippuden. Shippuden didn’t premiere until 2007. But at this point, I’m probably overthinking things. This isn’t an end-of-the-world anachronism)
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screaming-sparrow · 1 month ago
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tag yourself
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multi-fandoms-posts · 2 months ago
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Fuck so hot🥵🔥😍
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mockingjaysnakes · 10 months ago
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"finally, the star pupil".
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a-spookys-doodles · 3 months ago
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Bet you Victor is Jealous that Wade got to roll around with Logan in that Honda odyssey.
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mkpersephone · 1 month ago
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Headcannon that in the Marvel universe Whenever someone wants to mention Charles Xavier's achievements, they say: he is a man who Wolverine listens to him or he is the man who tamed Wolverine or he is the man who made Wolverine follow orders.
Xavier sometime brags about this infront of Logan and is very proud of himself for it. And Logan approves.
And this confuses the younger mutants or the newer superheroes because even though they know Wolverine, they don't see him as much of a problem. Yes, he's a short Canadian with anger issues and problems with authority, but otherwise deep down he seems very nice and kind and is patient with children. They think he just wants to be left alone and they should know when he is in the mood to talk.
Neither of them ever have the faintest idea what a bloodthirsty, savage, feral beast their short-tempered stepfather was before becoming a X-Men.
And I think this is beautiful.
Imagine:
While fighting Wolverine, Sabertooth mocks: That bald old man has tamed you runt!
today's accompanying ducklings: Mr. Logan was not an animal to be tamed from the beginning!
Logan: are you sure?
Sabertooth: I'm pretty sure he was. I was THERE!
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