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guys i feel like as a collective we, as the byler nation, have just sort of universally accepted that because will is confirmed to be gay and in love with mike (crazy) and he has that whole lego-up-the-nose talk/hug scene with jonathon in season four that he realised he liked mike really early on in their friendship/has known and been processing for years. but hear me out- its season 2, the crazy together scene. mike brings up el and will doesn’t seem jealous or sad or anything like that of her and millipedes relationship, (i mean ofc he doesn’t seem too cheery bc i mean he HAD already been through a lot that night & just in the whole time period leading up to their talk in general) but also . what if will didn’t think he would have an issue with their relationship (bc he hadn’t yet realised he would be left behind so suddenly, etc.) only realising he liked mike the summer that el got back? —> and maybe even that his dad was right and he was gay.
(in his early stages this is what leads to such scenes as the “im.. not going to fall in love” one. like he believes that he can be in love but he will never be in a loving relationship with someone else- he can have crushes but he’s not going to “fall in love” with someone as such- or so he thinks.)
just. something to think about- i feel like it would put some things into perspective a little from that season and onwards (oh god the painting in lenora and “acting weird”- oh god “can we play dnd now” (normalcy!)- oh god “what about us?”- oh god the byler hug before the byers left for lenora- oh dear lordddddDDD-) and also i think it would then be interesting if that el-saying-she-loves-mike / “not possible” / moment riding away from the byers house one last time was then taken as MIKES moment of realisation bc like. it could totally be. and um . awkward airport hug. van scene. ugh. it could be so!!
maybe im just insane but i wanted to share sooo. 🫶
thank youuu
#byler#byler analysis#byler endgame#hi guys hahaha#stranger things#byler nation#will byers#mike wheeler#the byers#el / jane hopper-byers#thoughts#gay#bi?#oh OH#gay realisations#homosexuality#💗💗💗🫶🫶🫶#byler tumblr#crazy together mentioned
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the golden ring on Messmer’s crest is from the symbol on the eye Marika blessed him with + it’s on the ring he wears as well (remember what I said about in Palmistry, wearing ring on the middle finger implies responsibility, devotion and justice, so it’s something the head of the family would wear).
even though he took out the eye, he still wore the ring in his Base Serpent form. and if you look closely, every plate on his armor is engraved with that golden ring symbol as well.
it’s poetry to me 😭
(render from Zlofsky on twitter)
#golden doomed mother and son#er brainrot#like everything he wears is about Marika it’s crazy#also if you notice the parallel between his story and Boc’s…. his cape description mentioned the crest was embroidered#so yeah it’s possible that Marika was the one sewing together his cape as well#messmer the impaler#queen marika the eternal
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cyno: delivery for you.
alhaitham: …this letter is from you
cyno: yes. i’d already written it by the time i realized i didn’t trust anyone else to bring it to you
alhaitham: you could just tell me what it says then since you’re already here
cyno: i can’t say it out loud in your office
alhaitham: ah. so it must be a fairly sensitive case—
alhaitham: cyno.
cyno: what?
alhaitham: this just says that you think i’m pretty
cyno: yes, because i do and - considering the nature of our current relationship - i thought i should let you know.
alhaitham: again— you could just tell me?
cyno, frowning: we’re at work, that would be unprofessional. though i suppose you’ve already breached the line by reading it out loud so please be more considerate next time :/
#haino#cytham#cyhaino#alhaitham#cyno#haino incorrect quotes#genshin impact#genshin incorrect quotes#cyno when they’re in public and off work: *saying every compliment* *physical touch to the max* *mentioning they’re together constantly*#cyno during work hours: grand scribe alhaitham please refrain from asking me personal questions like how my day is going during work hours😐#i think he’d compromise for the occasional note instead#and alhaitham is just constantly wondering how he fell for THE most work oriented man in all of sumeru😔#i am FULLY on the train that thinks cyno gets alhaitham to work way more than alhaitham is able to get cyno to slack#not to say he cant get him to slack at all but i think cyno usually wins lol#and i think alhaitham is obsessed with it#spends all his free time thinking up new tactics to win their daily ‘should we go in an hour late’ argument#tfw you and your partner are equals the only ones who can challenge each other able to meet half way—#they make me crazy fr
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I also just realized that we really only get the 7 days before the crash to really see the people Curly and Anya were before the crash. It's not even the full seven days. We get the first two and the last two with a gap in the time for what could have gone down.
I just realized how vague it was and how quickly it all happened. They are such small moments and such short glimpses. She's only just told Curly two days before the crash. The next she told Jimmy and Curly had to confront him. It's further implied right after that conversation, Curly goes to collect himself and figure things out and Jimmy immediately crashes the ship, once he's far enough to not stop him, cause he knows Curly would never truly allow it to happen.
But he takes that as the okay to go ahead, because in the long time he's known Curly, that's always been the okay.
The difference in the gaps in the timeline really just paint a bigger less explained but more obvious picture.
#like im only just really realizing how short that time frame is and we are missing days but i genuienly think the assult happened sometime#between the first two days and the last two days hence the gap in time for ambiguity#I just realized what Curly did was act as a sheild for Anya but it just didn't work. he believed he could#bring her comfort by simply not allowing Jimmy near her by supplementing her tasks and taking over some of her responsibilities#this always worked for Jimmy and he really only uses this as a basis for social interaction with the crew which is like cray cray on its ow#but i digress like he should've done more but man the jump in severity is crazy on Jimmy's part from menacing to the attac#as he likely used the psych evals to measure up his chances like a freak. Not to mention how Curly was just piecing things together when he#realized she never got psych evals like its all so confined im just so wacked out because yeah Curly still could've done way more the momen#he found out but Im also just realzing how short a day fucking is so like damn any way team kill Jimmy with stones and slap Curly till he#makes a better friend go#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#this is just something im really conceptualizing btw like I know the time frame im just actually thinking about it with all the other facto
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Byler Moodboard (including some shiny dice)
#Byler#Stranger Things#Byler Fanart#Will Byers#Mike Wheeler#Byler Moodboard#Moodboard#DnD#I got inspired by some drawn moodboards#and I HAD to do one for Byler#Including:#No personal space and tons of cuddling#Halloween to remember the crazy together#The hot cocoa and the marshmallows because I want them to have some cozy and fluffy time#Swingset swingset swingset swingset#did I mention cozy cuddles#The arcade sign and the DnD dice because they are gaming nerds#(I also kinda forgot this WIP existed for over a month. If it's not open on my tablet to finish - it doesn't exist in my brain)
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i dont care how it comes up, “you make me feel crazy,” “this is crazy,” etc, but there HAS to be some kind of mention of crazy during the byler kiss
#idec if they mention crazy together#the symbolism is enough#byler#byler kiss#stranger things#mike wheeler#will byers
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Something I think is very funny is that Ice King, Marcy and Bubblegum have been in each other's orbit for centuries before the main series. Early Marcy, hurt and isolated, I don't think would talk to or about Ice King all that much. I think she just straight up avoided him as much as she could. But she did date Bubbleum pre-series for a while and probably was at least a little emotionally vulnerable.
So I think she mentioned Simon, off handedly, like he wasn't once the most important person in her life. So imagine you're Bubblegum and your notoriously free wheeling, punk rock gf starts talking about this Simon dude. How he saved her from the wasteland, raised her, loved her as a dad and then left without explanation. This... doesn't sound like a real thing that happened. Bubblegum definitely files all Simon stories under "Things Marcy For Sure Made Up."
Now a couple of centuries pass and you learn, all in quite a rush, that not only was Marcy's "Simon" actually real but he's alive, here right now and has been the annoying Ice Wizard that has been kidnapping you for hundreds of years. I think I might lose my mind a little.
#adventure time#simon petrikov#gonna be real 'strange kind wizard adopts me saves me from monsters then abandons me to go crazy' has mad fanfic feel#I don't think a scientist like bubblegum would believe it?#and then out of nowhere its like 'oh hey simon is real and i didn't mention its bc he turned into that weirdo who's always harrassing you'#and then you have Simon back Proper#and you have to contend that your possible future sorta father in law once cried while reading his fanfic to you#they're all such old characters who have existed together for SO LONG#and yet simon and marcy have this deep bg lore that Bubs just straight up doesnt know#its so funny to me
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it is SO crazy to me to see people shipping Simon and Betty SO HARD and as though they're relationship is flawless and perfect and they were ~tragically~ separated by the curse of the crown
as someone who has only watch Fionna and Cake and then watched the episodes from Adventure Time relating to Simon only, it really seems like their relationship is set up to be flawed and sexist for its time
like. in FaC S1 Ep8 Jerry, there's literally a scene where Fionna is like "and then you went with her on the train???" and Simon goes "Yeah-huh, wha, no? Why would I-" before being cut off, and it is so perfectly set to mirror earlier when Fionna gushes about how romantic it was that Betty just "dropped everything" to go with Simon on his expedition. the implication that Betty would drop everything for a guy she just met but Simon wouldn't for her is so clear.
and in Adventure Time, there's an episode where Betty "changes the past" (not really though) so that she never had the opportunity to go meet Simon, where she instead prioritizes herself over him.
time and time again Betty's actions prove that she is so immediately obsessed with having Simon's approval and attention and that she would do anything for him despite them just having met. she literally sacrifices herself for him just to be un-cursed again.
and Simon barely does anything in return for her. and I'm not Simon-bashing here---Simon is my favorite fuckin' character and he's so sad and soppy and pathetic that I love him. and obviously he keeps trying to bring Betty back through dangerous rituals, but at the same time, he can't even focus properly on those to correctly bring her back, instead bringing Fionna and Cake into his world. i dont doubt that he loves her a lot and i think NOW he's grown as a person and could better reciprocate her very "give everything you have" kind of love but PAST him kind of... seems like a dick. not because he's bad/awkward at feelings, but because he never "gives up" anything for Betty like she gives up her entire life for him
it's so... very clearly sexist, where a woman must give everything to a man, but he doesn't have to give up anything for her or do anything to earn that kind of devotion. and I really really think FaC is going to bring it up too, and mention that their relationship wasn't as beautiful and perfect and equal as Simon thinks it was
and i am so fucking here for it and i feel like im going so incredibly crazy because WHY HASNT ANYONE MENTIONED HOW IMBALANCED THEIR RELATIONSHIP WAS?!
#i get that its prob nostalga and im not saying they arent cute together#but please please someone talk about their flaws and not just 'oh Betty's so crazy silly shed sacrifice herself for Simon!'#or 'oh no Simon dont undo all of Betty's hard work shes gonna be sooo angy!'#like not to mention Betty is like YOUNG 20'S??? when she hops into the future to save a THOUSAND YEAR OLD 30-40's Simon???#i hope they dont get back together i hope they move on in some way i hope that betty gets a second chance#the adventure time#fiona and cake#simon petrikov#betty grof#petrigrof#golbetty#ice king#random#fionna and cake
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NICO: WE SHARED THE LIFT THIS MORNING! I WAS GOING TO THE POOL TRAMPOLINE WITH MY TWO DAUGHTERS AND HE WAS GOING TO THE RACETRACK. PINKHAM: VERY DIFFERENT LIVES YOU'RE CURRENTLY LEADING.
#that line from nico is like /the/ modern brocedes thesis to me#like this is their happy ending!!! it is not the one they dreamed of all those years ago in greece but is a happy ending.#it's not multiple shared championships or racing against each other for years or anything their 13 year-old-selves would've dreamed up but#it is them achieving their dreams. lewis has 7 wdcs and is aiming for an 8th. nico has a loving wife and 2 daughters he'd die for. they are#both doing the things they love. would it have been nice if those dreams included each other? yeah. would it have been nice that when ppl#mention their names it would be to talk about what great friends they are instead of how they tore each other apart? absolutely! but they#were doomed from the start. so maybe it doesn't matter that they didn't get their traditional 'happy ending'. at least they had a happy#start and a semi-happy middle. at least they have the lift to see each other. at least nico's daughters get to keep lewis in their lives in#a way nico will never get to again. they will never share a bowl of frosties again but at least their roots are so thoroughly tangled#together that they can never look back without haunting each other. at least they still have that.#anyway for all the non-americans who reblog or like this. the poem is 'the road not taken' by robert frost. very famous in america#every middle/high schooler has to analyze/read this poem at some point. i don't know how popular he is outside of america so i thought id#leave a note ig.#anyway. i am going crazy and i need to lie down. that 2nd line was sooo hard to find a photo for. wth does 'hence' even mean???#brocedes edit#brocedes#f1 web weaving#f1#nico rosberg#lewis hamilton#f1 edit#nr6#lh44#web weaving
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my one fear (aha get it) with the finale is that they’ll focus on rick more than morty, because the thing is with rick it’s SUPER easy to think of stuff that he’s actually afraid of, but with morty, he��s so normally viewed as the scared-of-everything character that people never really take a second to brainstorm on what truly scares him as well. he’s just a kid who got thrown headfirst into literally everything and it’s even a recurring theme in the show of him being told to simply not think about it if he wants to stay a little bit stable, him even having to get his memory wiped of certain things just so he could go on living, even if that whole thing did get twisted up into a whole other thing. all that but nobody really thinks about how incredible it would be to really establish what he’s the MOST deeply afraid of, things like subconscious fears and things he’s more terrified of happening more than anything in the world, even after having seen everything
#but to be honest this is an episode where i don’t care if morty gets sidelined or if him and rick are barely together in it#just bc of the 5 minutes of diane mentioned like. that’s genuinely crazy? not to be a pushover or anything )which i am) but like#this season has done so many things that were basically unheard of before it that i cant even get mad at it. for anything#like ohh you little rascal of a season you. help#so like im happy no matter what!! yay great finale for a great season!!#rick and morty#rick and morty spoilers#odiespeak
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Diversity win! Your girly fashion game is abolishing gender norms with gender-neutral wine tankards!
#love nikki#miraculous reunion#diversity win#alcohol //#the devs do actually give us a free rainbow suit for pride month every year#and the mayor of moonlight city is canonically trans#bobo is boy-crazy but also looks at kaja with heart eyes#and kaja herself is very gender#not to mention *gestures at every interaction between nikki and kimi ever*#and flynn and orlando adopting a cat and a child together#like there is actually a lot of fun stuff in this game if you like looking for The Gay Content#BUT ALL THAT ASIDE i wasn't aware ale (cups? food in general?) was usually gender specific#the higher the queuer
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✨😌 today i give you adam and fulton skating arm in arm 😌✨
#tomorrow? who knows!#the mighty ducks#they're so cute and tiny#adam's real bestie#charlie and jesse are OVER#no but#they spend a lot of time together and i don't ever really see them mentioned#even back when the fandom was a bit more active#my fav is when adam goes crazy over the bash bros#he loves them#fulton reed#adam banks
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#david bowie#station to station#stay#this time I know we could get it together#if I did casually mention tonight#that would be crazy tonight
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KT and Nina randomly being college roommates is canon, I don’t care that the odds are super slim. I think it’s fate.
#and they go wayyyy too long not knowing#i feel like kt would randomly have eddie or patricia or someone visit her at school#and when she’s like ‘my roommate’s kinda weird but she’s really nice i think you’ll like her’ & then they walk in & everyone just freezes#or nina mentions going to school in england and kt is like ‘damn that’s crazy me too!’#and then they compare notes and kt just screams ‘WAIT YOURE NINA????’#and nina is like ‘you’ve known my name for like three months??????’#idk there’s just so many funny ways that this could go down#the funniest is lowkey that they get along so well that they live together all four years#but no one from anubis has the chance to come visit until their graduation#and they all freak out like#‘WHY DID YOU GUYS NEVER MENTION IT???’#and nina + kt are like#‘we didn’t know???’#anyway canon!!!#house of anubis#nina martin#kt rush
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I keep wondering how much curly even knew. He thought anya was trying to hurt herself bc they were all being let go (not bc jimmy sa'd her), but when she said 'i told you' he immediately knew she was talking about jimmy - but what did she tell him? did she tell him directly so he def knew that it wasn't a consensual encounter or did he only realize when jimmy told him that he'd get in trouble for it too? Or maybe he didn't believe anya at all at first? I wish we'd gotten that part of the conversation bc his behaviour looks very different depending on the answer
Whenever I think about it I think of the factors we have and more importantly what we don’t.
It’s intentional that the details of what happened are vague. We don’t have the when where and how, we don’t actually know what told means in this context where characters speak to each other in pretty heavy “what ifs” and “do you get it”.
I always interpret it as in told in a sort of fore warning. All the little details she was giving Curly were her telling him and he couldn’t see them the same or at all. It’s kinda why I have a sort of disdain for the I told you so in fan works because what she told him and what we see and know as outsider may not be the same. I’m not blaming Anya, far from it. She made an effort to reach out to Curly in a way that didn’t implicate her, didn’t send Jimmy directly back to her. She never directly says Jimmy did it, she never uses the word rape, but when she says I told you, Curly knows. When she says she told Jimmy, Curly knows what that means. When he talks to Jimmy, he finally understands it. It’s his fault for not getting it, not doing enough for those wanting but I don’t believe they were anything he took as extremely dangerous, not until too late.
He did something, just not enough, not the right something.
I never had the impression he didn’t believe Anya more so he had no idea how to actually handle and address it. That is a big fault on his part as what he did do just prolong Jimmy’s inevitable crash out. He never took her concerns lightly and he did try to comfort her, but he didn’t get what those concerns were about, not fully. So comforting her can never feel fulfilling.
Something that always gets me is how much talking Jimmy does in his scenes with Curly. Curly sorta shuts down and just lets him say whatever and we have try and piece a coherent thought process for him together about words and intentions that aren’t his own. The conversations we see are likely all the conversations that happened, the ones that mattered, that paint the bigger picture with little details.
We all assume the I told you was a direct statement but almost everything is n the game is cheekily indirect. We assume he’s known for a while, but we can’t know. I feel like us not knowing how aware Curly was is a big point of the commentary. Awareness helps us act more appropriately. He knows Jimmy was at least patronizing towards her position but that’s all he gleaned himself, hence why he takes over the psych eval for him. It’s a lot of wondering what was discussed between him and Anya and how it was.
If it was anything like the dead pixel conversation, which we only get towards the middle end, after we see a lot of the signs, the. I don’t think it got through his thick skull :/. Not in time at least.
#cause I think we wouldn’t understand that conversation if we got it too early in the game#we’d assume some thing but what is the problem that Curly is having too.#we get all the hindsight and foreshadowing that is not visible when in the situation#and that’s an important thing to take into account when talking about these characters and their motivations#I think he was starting to peice it together but not effectively enough#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#ask#nurse anya#still could’ve done more but he had to figure out what he was actually doing something for? it’s like damn this situations crazy#curly mouthwashing#anya mouthwashing#captain curly#rape tw#rape mention#💀 anon
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oh so when moth flight has kittens as a medicine cat and gives them away to strangers, one of which let his own son die and considered killing babies, because she can’t deal and somehow cant ask her clanmates to help, shes noble and brave and wise and shaped things for generations to come and she gets to die peacefully with all her children being like “wow mom that was so cool of you, we’re so happy and you are so smart and epic”, but when leafpool has kittens as a medicine cat and gives them to her sister who she knows wont mistreat them, she’s treated like shit by most people around her and shes so unforgivable that her children can’t help but snark about this at her funeral and shes almost sent to cat hell. ok
#no lets talk abt how fucked up moth flight was for that actually. like heres the thing atleast the three grew up together#at least they had a family at least they were happy. and they were too young to remember leafpool nursing them#so its understandable when theyre mad but leaf did what she could with the circumstances#moths kittens were attached to her and each other and her clanmates. and she ripped them from all of that#this was FAR from her only option like the rule wasnt even set at that point. her hand was not forced at ALL#yes she struggled but she was not by herself and she didnt have stigma around it stopping her#not to mention uh. clear sky held her hostage a few chapters before. he let his own son die over his pride.#hes considered killing kittens before for the sake of it.#but he ''deserves'' her child more bc he lost a son and this is so cute and wholesome for him#even tho he hates outsiders and treats them like shit#nah lets demonize moth flight a bit more for this bc she was actually so morally fucked up and in the wrong for this#and it drives me crazy how this is not portrayed as a heinous act but a bittersweet noble sacrifice thats shes rewarded for#ntm leafpool only suffered as bad as she did over moth flights actions.#echoed voice
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