#cr negativity

[pocketgalaxies]

ashton assuming every single person in that council room has never been touched by true fear or vulnerability or helplessness, the only exception being keyleth, whom he has to say that about because she routinely lays her soul bare for all of them when they repeatedly ask her for guidance. i know they're Punk etc but the presumptuous and misguided belief that people either show all of their hurt the way you do or they've never been hurt at all. ugh it's just exhausting to me

[criticalbeauregard]

i get everyone is excited about imogen being in the laudna book and more than likely getting canon meeting (me included ofc) but im seeing more and more people making the hype for the book all about imogen…. let us not forget this is laudna’s story

[cloudprincesslady]

the only way I'm getting on board with this "bringing everyone out of retirement" plan is if the players get to play out all three storylines as their various characters like. vox machina oneshot (liam can play idk earthbreaker groon or sth). mighty nein oneshot. bells hells to cap it off.

[fwwerabtry]

Something that came to mind is that saying about how you never get the original artist to restore a painting, because they'll try to improve what they see as flaws instead of restoring it to how it was.

Not that having the original creator(s) in the writing room of an adaptation is a bad idea-usually the opposite- but usually the original creator, in that case, is one person, who can easily be balanced out by others. Not eight, who also run the company and are the main cast.

[arabella-strange]

I just… I think eventually there’s something important to say about how aligning Ripley with the empowering of “the masses” vs. putting Vex on the side of “the world would be better if [one person] were in it,” esp. when that person’s first comment on returning to his burning city was to say, “The castle!” while flying over the city being burned… I get what they were doing, but I actually think it all adds up to be 100% counter to the values the show wants to have.

[mollywall-e]

Was there a specific reason that you fell out of the CR fandom? I can't put my finger on what it was for myself, but I'm feeling the same. Kinda wish i could pinpoint what it was just so it would mean that everything else is fine

C3 burnout is real.

For me, I think it’s a couple of things!

I’m really struggling with connecting to the story. I’m much more of a character driven person, and I feel like lately the campaign has been very mission/task focused with less time for character development/moments.

This makes things difficult because we’ve known “the big bad” for so long, it’s lost its sense of mystery.

Tuning in week after week when I’m not dying to know what’s happening next is hard! Especially since their content is SO LONG. I work full time and can’t watch live. Once I get behind, it’s really hard to catch up!

I’ve fallen out of C3 for long stretches before, until something major happened and I’d get inspired to pick it up again! I’m hopeful that I’ll get back into it at some point, but I’m not gonna stress myself out about it.

C2 got me through COVID and C3 got me involved in the fandom in a way that I’m so thankful for! I’ve loved writing fic and making friends in discord servers. But right now, following the show doesn’t spark joy and that’s okay. Rather than cling to CR with a white knuckled grip, I’m allowing myself to set it aside and follow the dopamine. It’ll still be there when I’m ready to come back to it.

Interests come and go, intensity fades. There’s nothing wrong with that.

On a more personal and homosexual note, I’ve also found myself falling into a new hyperfixation that’s consuming 95% of my brain’s CPU.

If any other struggling critters are looking for a new show, I can’t recommend The Loyal Pin enough. It’s a Thai GL on YouTube. The show is centered around their relationship, and it’s so beautiful. Period drama, friends to lovers, well-written, well-acted, stunning cinematography. Think Bridgerton, but actually gay. Yes, it’s as steamy as Bridgerton and the chemistry between the actresses is unreal, unmatched. Plus there’s a lot of focus on the Thai culture and history, which I find super fascinating!

[nothingwithdignity]

I have a lot of thoughts on this season of LoVM now that all the episodes are out, some good several bad. I might choose to keep some of them to myself because I do ultimately try to focus on the aspects of this fandom that bring me joy. While I fully believe in being able to analyze and critique the media you enjoy and I’ve rarely hesitated to share these kinds of thoughts when it comes to CR, I think there’s also a point when it’s healthier to leave things unsaid.

The short version is, I think in order to really enjoy the animated series I have to come around to thinking of it as a fully independent entity. Up to this point I’ve always considered it “heavily inspired by” and I would never expect an exact adaptation but I think I need to separate it further. I trust the cast to tell a story that they can be proud of but I need to adjust my expectations of what that story will be.

There will always be to original campaign to go back to if I want to revisit the story I fell in love with and I think if I can separate the two there will be things to enjoy about LoVM too.

[thebeedleboat]

Don't want to sound too negative about critical role with my recent reblogs and posts, I don't really think it will end in the next handful of episodes but it's late and I've just been a bit frustrated - with the series and some stuff in my own life which is probably clouding my judgement.

I don't want to be wishing this part of the campaign over but I do find myself thinking 'if ruidians become refugees on exandria how would BH help? Will vanguard and ruidusborn really be hunted down (vasselheim's response suggests so!) , and is there any way for BH to prevent this? If Everoa chooses to travel the blue promise, will Laudna show her how to forage and keep a low profile? Reccomend places to visit? And what happened to Captain Xandis!? Is Zhudanna still alive? Is - ' I have so many more btw.

This is a bit of a vent, I don't have a real point to this. I just really liked Everoa's part in the council meeting and I was suddenly flooded with visions of an epilogue with BH on the moon; or of the moon being destroyed but ruidians escaping to exandria; of the gods seeing all their space chickens home to roost... I'm just aware that even if C3 doesn't end soon, it's still a finite number of episodes and I don't enjoy the series as much as I used to - which might mean I should stop watching. However I don't want to because I have such a desire to know what happens and I'm invested so deeply in what C3 has introduced.

[iatethepomegranate]

Ok im getting tired of not seeing the other half of the cr crew now

[angelofdumpsterfires]

how i feel about all the changes in s3

[freshcut-chetney]

just so smug about the Ashton hate. They suck! They're an asshole!! I've hated them since they called Dorian useless!! No one gave them any shit for breaking Fearne's lens, you know the thing she'd been carrying around since ExU!!!

[pocketgalaxies]

crazy how in c2 they'll have three extensive convos checking in with each other while traveling like an hour in-game meanwhile in c3 they've been on the moon for days and still haven't discussed the following:

laudna fucking ate a guy

imogen's mom is a mythical legend amongst the enemy

orym vs. laudna's response to imogen giving into predathos

how did chetney suddenly learn to make hypnotizing toys

delilah briarwood

"some of us are expendable, we should get captured"

anything and everything they said during the trust exercise, including but not limited to:

laudna not being able to distinguish her thoughts from delilah's

imogen's disgust at delilah's inevitable presence

chetney's fear that his new family will leave him

orym's feelings about dorian

fcg relieving stress through murder

fearne's insecurities about their chances of success

ashton's guilt about the shard

and more!

[criticalbeauregard]

personally i’m having a blast, you guys stay safe out there

[kingboletes]

[undead-knick-knack]

[arabella-strange]

caveat: I do think the s3 of the show was great in many parts and I am loath to put negativity into the universe when we could be celebrating how beautiful the animation was, the sound design, so much of the hard work of so many people

That said: I think what made the s3 Keyleth arc so frustrating was that the narrative kept undermining the message. At first, she was the one who didn't trust Raishan because liars and murderers are not ideal allies—some of the party agrees, but they go with pragmatism. It's useful to have someone on the inside and we can't have perfection if we're going to win.

Then it's: Keyleth isn't being listened to, but at least Vax does the respectful thing to say that he trusts her instincts even if they can't follow their better angels right now. Keyleth compromises—hooray, pragmatism. (We even do this back-and-forth twice: Once at the start of the season, then again around the selling-out of Whitestone. Keyleth immediately mistrusts Raishan, but she's wrong about that—and if they had let themselves consider it was really Ripley, they might have stopped it [or whatever]. So then they decide to be pragmatists again.)

Except then: Nope, Keyleth was right, she shouldn't have compromised, she wasn't listened to, her friends dismissed her, and she was right [except for those times she wasn't] and she needs to go it alone. She needs to trust herself independently and refuse to back down. Hooray, we have down a boardroom victory at the Ashari Council.

Except...: Wait, just kidding, Keyleth needs to learn to listen and trust, and go back to Vox Machina, and thank them for empowering her to trust herself. And now they can reunite as a team more sure of themselves and thus more able to communicate and trust each other to take risks as a party.

^^ Which in itself is not a bad message! But the whole doesn't really click with this final point. And so by the end, it was hard to feel like there was really wisdom gained or understanding reached by any of the characters individually or about each other, because the back-and-forth just... made it so inconsistent about what choices we are supposed to see as right or fair, and which as incorrect or naive.