#cr negativity

[pocketgalaxies]

ashton assuming every single person in that council room has never been touched by true fear or vulnerability or helplessness, the only exception being keyleth, whom he has to say that about because she routinely lays her soul bare for all of them when they repeatedly ask her for guidance. i know they're Punk etc but the presumptuous and misguided belief that people either show all of their hurt the way you do or they've never been hurt at all. ugh it's just exhausting to me

[criticalbeauregard]

i get everyone is excited about imogen being in the laudna book and more than likely getting canon meeting (me included ofc) but im seeing more and more people making the hype for the book all about imogen…. let us not forget this is laudna’s story

[fwwerabtry]

Something that came to mind is that saying about how you never get the original artist to restore a painting, because they'll try to improve what they see as flaws instead of restoring it to how it was.

Not that having the original creator(s) in the writing room of an adaptation is a bad idea-usually the opposite- but usually the original creator, in that case, is one person, who can easily be balanced out by others. Not eight, who also run the company and are the main cast.

[arabella-strange]

I just… I think eventually there’s something important to say about how aligning Ripley with the empowering of “the masses” vs. putting Vex on the side of “the world would be better if [one person] were in it,” esp. when that person’s first comment on returning to his burning city was to say, “The castle!” while flying over the city being burned… I get what they were doing, but I actually think it all adds up to be 100% counter to the values the show wants to have.

[mollywall-e]

Was there a specific reason that you fell out of the CR fandom? I can't put my finger on what it was for myself, but I'm feeling the same. Kinda wish i could pinpoint what it was just so it would mean that everything else is fine

C3 burnout is real.

For me, I think it’s a couple of things!

I’m really struggling with connecting to the story. I’m much more of a character driven person, and I feel like lately the campaign has been very mission/task focused with less time for character development/moments.

This makes things difficult because we’ve known “the big bad” for so long, it’s lost its sense of mystery.

Tuning in week after week when I’m not dying to know what’s happening next is hard! Especially since their content is SO LONG. I work full time and can’t watch live. Once I get behind, it’s really hard to catch up!

I’ve fallen out of C3 for long stretches before, until something major happened and I’d get inspired to pick it up again! I’m hopeful that I’ll get back into it at some point, but I’m not gonna stress myself out about it.

C2 got me through COVID and C3 got me involved in the fandom in a way that I’m so thankful for! I’ve loved writing fic and making friends in discord servers. But right now, following the show doesn’t spark joy and that’s okay. Rather than cling to CR with a white knuckled grip, I’m allowing myself to set it aside and follow the dopamine. It’ll still be there when I’m ready to come back to it.

Interests come and go, intensity fades. There’s nothing wrong with that.

On a more personal and homosexual note, I’ve also found myself falling into a new hyperfixation that’s consuming 95% of my brain’s CPU.

If any other struggling critters are looking for a new show, I can’t recommend The Loyal Pin enough. It’s a Thai GL on YouTube. The show is centered around their relationship, and it’s so beautiful. Period drama, friends to lovers, well-written, well-acted, stunning cinematography. Think Bridgerton, but actually gay. Yes, it’s as steamy as Bridgerton and the chemistry between the actresses is unreal, unmatched. Plus there’s a lot of focus on the Thai culture and history, which I find super fascinating!

[iatethepomegranate]

Ok im getting tired of not seeing the other half of the cr crew now

[skeine]

man i miss when cr fights were actually difficult. like i can't even blame it on level 20 combat i'm in an epic level campaign right now and combat's tough as hell and we're dropping like flies to stagger back up for one more round. like i get it losing your character sucks but. why are they so terrified of bad things happening to their pc? the ban on revivify got walked back a long time ago. so why. WHY

[angelofdumpsterfires]

how i feel about all the changes in s3

[kingboletes]

[undead-knick-knack]

[topaz-mutiny]

Just for the record, this is the fifth time people have left Ashton while he's unconscious.

The first time, he's yeeted across the planet and loses his blood family.

The second time, the Nobodies leave him for dead.

The third time, the Malleus Key rips apart the group.

The fourth time, FCG self-destructs as Ashton lay bleeding out.

And now the fifth time, Fearne slips away as he's sleeping and gets attacked/kidnapped.

[pocketgalaxies]

matt!keyleth calling vax the most important thing she has and will ever know. sorry i need to log off immediately

[criticalbeauregard]

personally i’m having a blast, you guys stay safe out there

[shorthaltsjester]

chewing on laudna as a character with so much animosity with the notion of fate who also does not ascribe herself enough agency for anything that occurs in her life to be anything other than the force of fate or delilah's or imogen's will. like, laudna looking at imogen and saying "we were never meant to be important" as if that has any bearing at all (and questionable accuracy as well, given that imogen does have Chosen One magic). that laudna has played a role in ensuring that she and imogen (and bell's hells as a whole) are given importance, but her focus in on 'we were never meant to be this' rather than the fact that her actions have amounted to their actually in fact being this. god

[arabella-strange]

caveat: I do think the s3 of the show was great in many parts and I am loath to put negativity into the universe when we could be celebrating how beautiful the animation was, the sound design, so much of the hard work of so many people

That said: I think what made the s3 Keyleth arc so frustrating was that the narrative kept undermining the message. At first, she was the one who didn't trust Raishan because liars and murderers are not ideal allies—some of the party agrees, but they go with pragmatism. It's useful to have someone on the inside and we can't have perfection if we're going to win.

Then it's: Keyleth isn't being listened to, but at least Vax does the respectful thing to say that he trusts her instincts even if they can't follow their better angels right now. Keyleth compromises—hooray, pragmatism. (We even do this back-and-forth twice: Once at the start of the season, then again around the selling-out of Whitestone. Keyleth immediately mistrusts Raishan, but she's wrong about that—and if they had let themselves consider it was really Ripley, they might have stopped it [or whatever]. So then they decide to be pragmatists again.)

Except then: Nope, Keyleth was right, she shouldn't have compromised, she wasn't listened to, her friends dismissed her, and she was right [except for those times she wasn't] and she needs to go it alone. She needs to trust herself independently and refuse to back down. Hooray, we have down a boardroom victory at the Ashari Council.

Except...: Wait, just kidding, Keyleth needs to learn to listen and trust, and go back to Vox Machina, and thank them for empowering her to trust herself. And now they can reunite as a team more sure of themselves and thus more able to communicate and trust each other to take risks as a party.

^^ Which in itself is not a bad message! But the whole doesn't really click with this final point. And so by the end, it was hard to feel like there was really wisdom gained or understanding reached by any of the characters individually or about each other, because the back-and-forth just... made it so inconsistent about what choices we are supposed to see as right or fair, and which as incorrect or naive.

[cringefaecompilation]

the only genuine complaint (and this one is VERY vague) i have about the liveshow is that critical role artistically-wise has a genuine... fear, i guess of making serious characters that aren't visibly humanoid for some reason. i love daggerheart for the fact that they're finally stepping out of that comfort zone with oppy, dante, and kexon (and sweetpea and xarlo to an extent. bunnie and pango are just colorful humans with stuff tacked onto them.)

i was confused that morrighan looked like a human with bunny ears as opposed to an actual harengon, but it's a little insulting with braius being a minotaur and having a completely humanlike face as well. i'm hoping he at least has hooves or he could've just been a tiefling at that point lmao. if someone's character dies or in campaign 4 they choose to play a tabaxi they're going to look like this aren't they