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#radfem safe#radical feminism#radfems please touch#cosmetic surgery critical#beauty industry critical#art#mine#thistledown velvet ant#which is actually a kind of wasp#this was gonna have a different caption but I got riled
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Honestly when I hear people say “not receiving gender affirming surgeries will make me feel suicidal” I hear the same thing as if someone said “if I don’t get a nose job I’ll feel suicidal”
It’s a physical insecurity that wouldn’t exist in a vacuum. I’m sorry that you were influenced to feel this way, but surgery will not fix something that is rooted in self-hatred. If you change it with surgery, you will find another insecurity to fixate on within a week.
Also, can we talk about how rebranding gender affirming surgery as some life-saving procedure is just promoting and glamorising a very misogynistic and corrupt industry.
#normalise calling gender affirming surgery plastic surgery#because thats what it is#radblr#radical feminism#radical feminist safe#radical feminists do interact#gender critical#radical feminist community#gender abolition#terfsafe#terfblr#anti cosmetic surgery#plastic surgery
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if you don't want people to bind for years because of dangers to ribs and lungs, you should be advocating for easier access to top surgery...
Lmao as if top surgery doesn’t come with its own risks. You might as well say ‘shapewear isn’t good, so what women should get is liposuction :) ’. How about coming to peace with your body? Whatever happened to that?
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I know I've talked about this before, but as somebody with Strong features who has been mocked for it, it really infuriates me when people bully others for changing their strong features through surgery instead of criticizing beauty culture, you know, a big issue as to why people with strong or ethnic features are often bullied or even discriminated against. When you bully people for altering their appearance through surgery, you may just be victim-blaming somebody. Beauty culture is the issue, not somebody using their bodily autonomy as they see fit.
#beauty culture#honestly i think one of the reasons people have stopped mocking me for my features is simply because...#...they were 'masculinizing' features and since i am a man people aren't as willing to 'call it out'...#...now that people have recognized my manhood i've noticed they're less inclined to call out the features they see as masculine...#...because it's like saying 'the sky is blue!!!!' and expecting people to be horrified and shocked#even in a post-beauty culture world 'cosmetic' plastic surgery would still exist#because it is an aspect of bodily autonomy#i have some Thoughts on this#(i will say in the first few tags that people have still pointed out my features but like. my dysphoria doesn't latch onto it anymore)#(and i've embraced that i just look Like My Dad and i always have and probably always will)#this was just inspired by somebody expressing that they changed their strong feature because of bullying/beauty culture...#...and people were making fun of *her* instead of criticizing and hating beauty culture for tormenting her for how she existed#would she have changed her strong nose if not for beauty culture? who knows because that isn't the world we're living in rn#but you can't just ignore how painful it was to have been TORMENTED for your NATURAL BODY#like that's honestly the lowest of the low imo#and i 100% support her decision because her bodily autonomy is *absolute*#without bodily autonomy you have NOTHING. if you do not OWN your body you own NOTHING.
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i think if you're going to get big mad at me in my notes over a version of my post that you just made up then you should at least check to make sure that your complaint isn't the literal first thing i addressed in the reblog that for some reason isn't circulating anymore
#.txt#someone getting mad at me for Ignoring Eurocentrism on that post abt surgery and bodily autonomy#as though my literal first reblog isn't explaining that there's no clear and meaningful way to separate trans surgeries from cosmetic ones#as far as describing a relationship to racist + eurocentric norms goes - trans surgeries are formulated around those norms too!#and if u want a coherent politic of surgery that doesn't cede easy ground to reactionaries then u have to be prepared to tackle+#+eurocentrism + racism whilst advocating for uncaveated access to body modification for all. anything else is a nonsense position.#what's funny is i didn't even say Don't Criticise Surgery: i said that the bottom line of yr criticism has to be bodily autonomy lmao
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‘You either believe in bodily autonomy or you don’t’
Sure but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t analyze the reasons people make the decisions they do like….
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#radfem safe#radical feminism#detransition#gender abolition#cosmetic surgery critical#beryx decadactylus#inspired by that absolutely rancid comic that was going around the other day#art#mine
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guys seriously i cant believe we’re arguing about cosmetic surgery. there’s nothing wrong with your body! when we start acting like our bodies are play dough figurines to mould we disconnect from ourselves! they are encouraging insecurities to make money off of you getting these surgeries like i thought you guys were anti capitalist yeesh
#anti capitalist until you wanna look pretty#as if that shit is hand crafted to make you hate yourself and buy shit#you can say whatever you want about bodily autonomy like we need to have actually critical discussions about this#who’s wanting you to get cosmetic surgeries and why????????
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these ppl forget the surgery has the risk of never being able to raise your arms above your head again. how are they about pro body positivity until its about having boobs, then its alright to hate yourself and your body for it.
Exactly
#occasionally they can criticise cosmetic surgery but only up to the point of trans people who apparently hate their bodies in an entirely#more legitimate way#than people who hate#their bodies in a non gender dysphoria way#apparently the way they hate their bodies is a non life threatening way that can be gotten over…but trans people are ~totally different~#and they will literally die if they can’t get it and the dysphoria cannot be lessened any other way#gender critical#top surgery#radfem safe#cosmetic mastectomies
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oh EW why was this very adamant radfem blog in my orbit??
#you like a few posts that are critical of makeup or cosmetic surgery and BAM there come the radfems
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sorry we r not going to openly admit that the plastic surgery preys on young women and gives them lifelong insecurities on purposeto make money off them
and then in the same breath say but we should ignore that and let it keep happening
bc arguing against it might give ppl who r already transphobes another excsue to hide behind. like what!!
stop doing their work for them stop handing over these entire issues to their cause!!
the issues dont go away ur just givibg them more ammunition if u refuse to address it!!
what do u think is gonna happen if all the libs r like uuuh no sorry the plastic surgery industry is good actually
while conservatives r like no its a predatory industry
if we arent the ones to make the distinction that conservatives r using legitimate broad issuesto hide their bigotry behind
then no one else is gonna make the distinction either
and young girls who r harmed day after day by misogyny in societyr gonna grow up thinking the only allies they have r with fucking moms for liberty or fucking whatever
or if theyre smarter than that. that they have no allies at all.
why do we keep ceding feminist issues to transphobes fucking why it isnt helping anyone!!!
Look. I’m going to be honest with you. Adopting that hard anti-plastic surgery stance while trans people’s lives and right to transition is at stake is absolutely horrendous timing. Knock it off.
#thank you gingerswagfreckles so much for your nuanced take on this#plastic surgery#cosmetic surgery#i guess it is useful to make the distinction that cosmetic surgery is a SUBSECTION of plastic surgery#but not being allowed to criticize cosmetic surgery and think we should put any restrictions seems too much#transphobia#misogyny#feminism#oh man#sky adds#skypalacerarchitect adds
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what that post is saying is not that people with bbls and botox today are hypocrites for decrying corsets.. it's saying the people who should be criticizing current-era barbarisms (whether or not they engage in them) choose to focus on barbarisms of the past instead? we don't have to neglect the fact that corsets and in general the dress and treatment of women in the past was a problem.. but maybe we start with what's literally happening all around us and being pushed in our face 24/7 TODAY in 20 fucking 24. like how can we nitpick about the beauty expectations of women a century or two ago when we're arguably even worse now.... it's about the irony.... it's not saying you can't criticize corsets and equally criticize excessive surgery + makeup practices of today.. it's saying.. why would you pick one? and, at that, the lesser one.
#and if u can honestly say u havent seen any1 who criticizes corsets and accepts cosmetic surgery... i don't know what world ur living in#but.. regardless.. the point still stands. that it's kinda ironic to give a fuck about corsets at all in this social climate lmao#I also... DO think all of those things are commonly practiced.. like... there are 16 year olds on tik tok getting nose jobs bro............#that's WAY more common than I'd ever have expected it to get to. we're way past the point of this being like.. a non-issue#for just the minority of rich ppl with no idea what to do with their money#sorry for vagueposting i just had to get that thought out there cause. honestly this is quite ridiculous ^_^ what's happening.#n ppl still wanna deny it like I know ur intentions are good but.. I think u must be blind if u dont think this is as big a thing as it is#link to original post in source for anyone who maybe sees this and is like wtf r u on abt lmao.#i dont want to uh. add this in reblog/replies cuz :/ i dont rly like engaging with the vast majority of this site lmao
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Always grounding talking to other women about bullshit misogyny in the current day, and once you rock the boat just a bit they find that it’s ok to speak their minds freely
Also can’t believe my roommate seemed genuinely surprised that individuals would transition for fetish-based reasons
#not that she can wrap her head around the fact that this friend is calling himself a woman now#but when you throw in the story that he would secretly cross dress and kept it from his girlfriend now wife#it does beg the question of when exactly did that line of thinking emerge#she does seem a bit startled though and confided that she wouldn’t be able to handle that if her husband did the same#just because she’s attracted to males… and he’d still be male at the end of the day…#also love how we had that conversation and then somehow ended up both criticizing cosmetic surgery haha
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Some of y'all try to be sooooo liberal that you literally circle right back around to conservative ideology and you don't even realize it
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FINALLY someone put into words what ive been feeling about this shitty fucking argument 'maybe YOU have a problem with someone getting off to beating their partner but they ~consented~ so ur Wrong and just a Evangelical Christian Puritan who needs to stay in their lane uwu' cool argument. its still abuse. you are using sexual gratification as a justification for literal abuse and domestic violence and its 100% valid and moral to call that out actually!
One of the ways in which modern liberalism goes wrong in ethics is its singular focus on consent. Don’t get me wrong, consent is always necessary is any type of relation or exchange between individuals, but it isn’t sufficient.
This is why modern liberals will see nothing wrong with bdsm, pornography, surrogacy, or cosmetic surgery. “If both parties consent, then what’s the problem?” they’ll say.
There needs to be ethical standards for how we treat other people, regardless of if individuals think they are worthy of being treated by those standards. This concept is already recognized in most legal systems. If I sign a form saying that you can kill me whenever you feel like it, you would still be culpable for murder if you followed through.
Women are the ones who lose out when this concept is not applied. We have been conditioned to believe that we are not worthy of being treated right, so we allow others to take advantage of us. Consent being by the only moral consideration people care about takes advantage of this fact.
#btw i dont know enough about surrogacy or cosmetic surgery or how its related so i cant have an opinion about that#everything else i agree with though#kink critical#critical
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words fail to describe the second hand embarrassment i feel in my body when i see a feminist criticize something like sex work, makeup, cosmetic surgery, etc and someone comes up and says “isn’t feminism supposed to be about women’s choices :((” or something adjacent to that, and then we have to remind everyone that no, feminism is about FEMALE LIBERATION and not what makes YOU feel comfortable as an individual. with the rise of liberal feminism we’ve forgotten that feminism is a political movement and it’s not meant to be fun. it’s supposed to question and tear apart what’s seen as the status quo for women. if you can’t handle even the smallest criticism of things that you as a woman enjoy and take part in then feminism simply isn’t for you
#anotherBANGERbyvenusgrl:3#feminism#radblr#radical feminism#radical feminists do interact#radical feminist safe
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