#corsets for women

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[lazylittledragon]

and what if they got married. what then

[sibmakesart]

they have a traditionnal wear party with the crew

thanks to @a-random-fandom-friend who gave me the push to finally draw sanji in traditionnal elsassisch wear

also

zoro is breton, but born from a japanese mother (as in canon his mother is from wano and dad from a random village in east blue, well now hes from a random village in bretagne dw about it)

and

i have to admit

i had to fight the urge to put sanji in a dirndle

[satans-knitwear]

At the pub, I got asked twice where I bought my lingerie, bc the bodysuit I wore over it was the perfect tease.

Treat me ~ Tip Me ~ More of me

[marzipanandminutiae]

Dear marzi, for reasons of trying not to give period characters too modern fetishes in my smut, may I have some recs as to where I may find some of that olde fetish content you've previously seen?

On the Wikipedia page for the "corset controversy," unfortunately!

Historians have been taking obvious tightlacing fetish letters seriously for...way too long. And sometimes still are. Confirmation bias is a hell of a thing. Of course, there's no way to 100% tell which letters are fetish fuel and which are real, but generally any that use particularly heightened language or common erotic tropes- or that seem to fly in the face of evidence from extant garments, unedited videos, stock and advertisements from real corset companies, etc. -are to be viewed with suspicion.

(The same is true for letters used now to claim that nipple piercing was a real Victorian trend- for, indeed, the only source is anonymous magazine letters and many of them fall into the same obvious patterns as the tightlacing letters. One DOES describe the alleged process in detail...but it's basically the same as the process for ear-piercing, a service jewelers did commonly offer back then. Just applied to nipples. So whether it's real or not is still uncertain, but it's highly doubtful that large numbers of Victorian women were running around with nipple piercings given that no extant nipple rings have been found, such piercings are never mentioned in letters or diaries or other more concrete sources, etc.)

Besides that, I've seen glimpses of most modern fetishes in various sources:

the Psychopathia Sexualis, a medical manual of "sexual mental illness" (in heavy quotes because things like homosexuality and gender variance are mentioned under that heading), talks about everything from a fetish for tight boots and gloves on women, to bloodplay (initiated by a woman, actually, who wanted to drink her husband's blood), to force-femming, to some very elaborate femdom scenarios that I hope the sex workers in question were paid well for. Of course, since the cases are anonymous, these are also difficult to confirm- but clearly someone had THOUGHT of them, since they're written into the book.

And I've seen at least some of them in other sources, too, including some of the magazines that published the nipple piercing and tightlacing letters. The Englishwomen's Domestic Magazine was notorious for its letters on tightlacing, tight gloves, spanking, etc.

Photographic porn was definitely a thing almost as soon as photography came into being. A lot of it is pretty vanilla, but I could swear I'd seen piss kink photos (with urine painted in after development) before the blog where they were hosted went defunct

James Joyce's letters to his wife get into farting and scat fetish territory. Yes, really.

Speaking of letters, there was one man living here in Boston who, in the late 19th century, wrote letters to his wife describing erotic dreams of her as a giantess who pissed on him and then ate him. I cannot remember his name and it's going to drive me insane all day, but he was the head of Boston's censorship organization, the Watch and Ward society and these letters were first released by his own children for an unauthorized biography written five years after his death. Guess there was little love lost there.

BDSM is old. Like, really old. Old, to quote the sacred texts, as balls. I'm pretty sure there are sexual flagellation texts going back to the Renaissance, but don't quote me on that.

Basically, Rule 34 can be back-applied, too. If it existed, there was a fetish for it, probably. Of course, things that specifically involve modern technology or properties are out, but beyond that...the sky is the limit

[cardcaptorr]

incase u needed to see me in a slutty dragon costume 🐉✨

[sillyfairygarden]

so uh. yeah. that skin.

[playing-with-red-hot-fire]

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[wocina]

[marzipanandminutiae]

most clothing historians: hey so corsets weren't actually the unilateral torture devices they get portrayed as in fiction. most women wore them in a comfortable, or at least tolerable, manner on an everyday basis and it's kind of messed up that we're ignoring their lived experiences to promote a false narrative

too many people online: UM BUT THEY WEREN'T ALL GOOD THEY WEREN'T PERFECT AND WONDERFUL FOREVER. THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. YOU LOVE CORSETS SO SO MUCH AND THINK THEY COULD NEVER BE HARMFUL AND I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY TORTURE DEVICES SOMETIMES. WE'RE LOSING SIGHT OF THAT. WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THEY WERE BAD SOMETIMES. AND UNCOMFORTABLE. AND PATRIARCHAL. DON'T FORGET THAT!!! DID YOU FORGET IT? I WILL REMIND YOU SINCE YOU SEEM TO WORSHIP CORSETS OR SOMETHING

Edit: while I appreciate people weighing in on their corset thoughts in the notes, this isn’t really meant to be about whether corsets are good or bad, or comfortable or not. It’s about people inventing this mostly-strawman character of “historical costumer who thinks corsets are the best thing ever with no nuance“ and responding to it

[bob--and--friends]

Lavender Lilly

@gensounohana

[nemfrog]

"Composite diagram made mainly from radiographs of over 100 corset-wearing women...Note compression of chest, displacement of liver, stomach, and bowels ,and dilation and distortion of stomach and large intestine."

Feeding and care of baby. 1913. Internet Archive.

[mermaidstylediaries]

[comfymoth]

AND FINALLY. it’s what you’ve all been waiting for it’s what you all VOTED for!!! CORSET QUACKITY!!!!!

[margridarnauds]

I'm really sympathetic to a lot of the criticisms about period dramas of the last ~decade, but I also see period drama circles making fun of women in pants wielding weapons than...I actually see women...in period dramas....wearing pants and wielding weapons...