#comic: poison ivy thorns

[but-a-humble-goon]

Imma be honest not a single version of Poison Ivy's backstory has managed to make her getting seduced and manipulated by Jason Woodrue not seem completely stupid and out of character. She's already supposed to have been a jaded, misanthropic sociopath and a child abuse survivor before she even met him. And Woodrue's not exactly some masterful charismatic manipulator, he's a cackling nutjob with delusions of grandeur. If anything he seems like exactly the kind of moron who ends up getting manipulated by her. I guess the point is supposed to be that this kind of thing can happen to anyone but that still doesn't give writers carte blanche to not bother making it remotely believable. This is why my favorite version of Poison Ivy's origin story was Poison Ivy: Thorns where they just cut Woodrue out and have it be her dad who experimented on Pam as a child and gave her her powers. Partially because having two character defining abusive asshole male authority figures who instilled in her a mistrust/hatred for humanity is kinda redundant, and secondly because she's a kid and it's her dad and she had yet to become the sociopath we know and love so it makes total sense for her to fall for the gaslighting and manipulating, and to stay no matter how bad the abuse got.

[bi-dykes]

Harlivy bisexual gf’s matching icons/pfps

Inspired by this post

[chainsawcorazon]

poison ivy: thorns broke my heart. i hope we get to see alice again one day 😔

[lilac-comics]

POISON IVY THORNS written by Kody Keplinger

An interesting take on poison Ivy’s origin story

[belletra]

newly obsessed with poison ivy, she's my everything 🌱💚

[deadsetobsessions]

To the mf who had my house before me, if you see me on the street, turn around and run the other way. Because if I see you, know that it’s going to be on sight. Who even puts tile like that?? Anyways, I'm kind of sick, so that's why I've been kind of inactive.

But good news (ish) I got me a house! Yay! Let’s hope I can keep it. To celebrate, y’all can have this! And a few chapters! So technically this is a chapter update post?

——

Danny’s most favorite thing to do with Alfred Pennyworth is groundskeeping. While he might not be Sam, Danny could still appreciate the serenity and beauty of nature.

“Ow, fuck!”

“Master Danny, please refrain from using explicit language.”

“Sorry, Alfred. I got stabbed.”

“Oh dear. Will you be needing a bandage?”

“Nah, it’s okay. I think…” Danny hummed, peering closer at the reddish brown thorns sprouting from the ground. “That might be the rose bush?”

Alfred paused his snipping, turning around and coming closer to inspect the plant. “How peculiar. It seems to have grown a branch beneath the soil.”

In unison, Danny and Alfred lifted their heads to look at the rose bush, innocuously sitting three yards away.

“Huh. Weird.”

“Indeed.”

The door to one of Bruce Wayne’s many gardens, all opulently gothic to hide their vigilante disturbances, opened. The hinges swung without a single creak, as Alfred the butler always carried WD-40 on his person and a squeaky hinge in this mansion was an affront to his professionalism.

"Hey, guys! Whatcha doing?" Duke greeted, followed by Jason.

"Gardening! You wanna help?"

"Nah, I'm a Gothamite, not Poison Ivy, man. I don't do grass." Duke replied, plopping down on one of the lawn chairs with his drink. "But I can totally give you moral support... from over here."

Danny snorted. "What about you, Jason?"

Jason shrugged. "Sure, what are we doing?"

"There's a rose bush that grew all the way over here."

"Woah, crazy."

"Indeed, Master Jason. I shall go get the shovels."

"Okay, Alfie," Jason absently agreed, focused on finding where else the rose bush had grown to. "You wanna keep the bush, right?"

"That would be preferable."

"Duke, can't-" Jason paused, throwing a quick look at Danny before visibly changing tracks. "Can't you get us some drinks?"

"Kitchen's right over there, Jason." Duke pointedly leaned back and took a sip.

Danny piped up. "I'll get it! What did you want, Jason?"

----

Two hours later, covered in all manners of dirt and blades of grass, Jason and Danny sat back to survey the messed up garden.

"You sure we can't hire Ivy to move the plant somewhere?"

"She'd just make it worse," Jason grumbled.

"You guys can do it!" Duke cheered, scrolling through his phone and cherry picking the most hilarious pictures of Jason and Danny to send to the group chat. He chose the selfie, where he was grinning into the camera as Jason fell on his ass as Danny pulled up a long section of thorns.

Duke gets nailed in the face with two clumps of grass from his disgruntled brothers.

"I believe it is time for a shower." Alfred Pennyworth smiled, content. Days like these made him glad that his grandchildren found their way back.

[queenoftheferns]

Not to be one of those homophobes saying “Ivy was better before she was gay” or anything- I just get a little tired when everyone’s favorite character is Harley and everything always revolves around her. Like, one of Ivy’s best comics was Poison Ivy: Thorns but it’s not popular because there’s no Harley in it, even though it’s amazing and gay…

Also I’m just pissed that we never get any backstory for Ivy in the Harley Quinn show and yet we’re getting a whole fucking spinoff show for Kite Man… I just wish people liked Ivy more as a character not just a love interest.

[dailydccomics]

Poison Ivy: Thorns (2021)

[danthepest]

oh hey, now that I can post 30 images instead of 10, guess I'm redoing my DC characters collections. Anyway, here's the Batman villains from the DC Animated Universe.

The Joker - First comic appearance in Batman v1 #1 (1940).

Harley Quinn - First appearance in Batman: Harley Quinn (1999)

Two-Face - First comic appearance in Detective Comics v1 #66 (1942).

Killer Croc - First comic appearance in Batman v1 #357 (1984).

The Riddler - First comic appearance in Detective Comics v1 #140 (1948).

Bane - First appearance in Batman: Vengeance of Bane #1 (1993)

The Scarecrow - First comic appearance in World’s Finest Comics #3 (1941).

The Penguin - First comic appearance in Detective Comics v1 #58 (1941).

Poison Ivy - First comic appearance in Batman v1 #181 (1966).

Mr. Freeze - First appearance in Batman v1 #121 (1959).

Ra’s al Ghul - First appearance in Batman v1 #232 (1971).

Talia al Ghul - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #411 (1971).

Ubu - First appearance in Batman v1 #232 (1971).

Rupert Thorne - first appearance in Detective Comics v1 #469 (1977).

The Ventriloquist - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #583 (1988).

Firefly - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #184 (1952).

Clayface - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #298 (1961).

The Mad Hatter - First appearance in Batman v1 #49 (1948).

Thomas Blake - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #311 (1963).

Man-Bat - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #400 (1970).

Blockbuster - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #345 (1965).

Deadshot - First appearance in Batman v1 #59 (1950).

Hugo Strange - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #36 (1940).

KGBeast - First appearance in Batman v1 #417 (1988).

Hellhound - First appearance in Catwoman v2 Annual #2 (1995).

Lock-Up - First appearance in Robin v2 #24 (1996).

Gork - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #480 (1978).

Copperhead - First appearance in The Brave & the Bold v1 #78 (1968).

Electrocutioner - First appearance in Batman v1 #331 (1981).

Joe Chill - First appearance in Detective Comics v1 #33 (1939).

[bi-dykes]

Girlfriends

[chainsawcorazon]

dc comics onto something with all these YA books featuring gay people….. i mean, i’ve only read two, but ivy and mandy will always live in my heart. bring back alice oh. give us a I Am Not Starfire pt2 where her birth father lobo learns she’s his daughter the same minute she learns her mom fucked a blue bounty hunter during her off era with nightwing

[wednesday-if-it-was-tuesday]

how do you suggest getting into batfamily comics? i’m pretty new to the fandom :)

If you’re into the fun fluffy family stuff then the WFA webtoon and Dustin Nguyen’s Li’l Gotham are really good. Then if you’re a BTAS fan the Batman Adventures series takes place in that continuity. A lot of stuff when the CCA was active has that goofy fun batman content that is kinda day to day. Also DCs early like YA graphic novels like Oracle Rising, Poison Ivy Thorns, The Lost Carnival are good for if you want one-shot easy reads in their own universes.

Obvi there are the classic BATMAN stories that don’t focus as much on the family, but can contextualize and are good. So books like Year One, Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Killing Joke, and Hush. Then there are more old school classic batfamily comics like Death in the Family, Under the Red Hood, Batman Inc, Batman Who Laughs, and City of Owls. For these, if you don’t have the patience to read, DCAMU has stellar animated movie adaptations.

[lazaruspiss]

Do you have a favourite Comic artist? imo bill sienkiewicz art is some the best. his style is very recognizable and he uses shape very well. his art in new mutants is some of my favourite especially when illustrating legion. would definetly reccomend reading 'New Mutants #18-31.' Chris Claremont's the writer and I also really enjoy his x-men stories.

ok so. i went to a comic show recently and stumbled into DC's "Young Romance" comics, which i have no interest in reading but i did see this

and its up there as one of my favorite cover illustrations, the hold is just incredibly fucking tender and i think its so well executed. kind of regret not getting it if only just so i could get a better res picture of the cover. i went looking, and the artist seems to be Jay Scott Pike who's main deal seemed to be drawing pretty women for DC and like. yeah. yeah i get it. im not sure id call him a favorite comic artist of mine but this cover has left an impression on me and i certainly think he was very skilled.

to try and think of a favorite... its easier for me to remember artists that i hate that are super popular tbh so its taking me a minute. In general i tend to prioritize fluidity and interesting visuals over Strict Anatomical Correctness. i like superhero comics because they don't need to be hyper realistic. im not gonna list names bc im not a shithead but i have bitched in DMs before bc i simply Do Not understand the appeal of certain popular artists.

to try and list some more artists that ive enjoyed the work of: Sara Kipin was the artist for Poison Ivy: Thorns, which i thought was gorgeous. I stumbled into Serg Acuña's art a few times, I do like it although not enough to seek it out. Daniele Di Nicuolo is another one that's like that.

in general i have a habit of not really paying much attention to creator names unless i need/want to for some specific reason, because i really like to take things as they are. artists and writers have their highs and lows, so i just take each comic i read as it comes for the most part.

sometimes i wish i liked more Marvel stuff, but the only runner ups after my Nightwing obsession are Ghost and X of Dark Horse comics <3 im barely aware of anything Marvel, but i keep hoping ill be able to at least get into Moon Knight one of these days.

[poisonivysource]

Hi can you recommend me some comics? I'm new to comics but i already saw batmen:hatley&ivy, harely quinn and poison ivy, poison ivy cycle of life and death, poison ivy thorns, neil gaimen's secret origin, gotham city sirens and on-going series.(I'm still catching up pre on-going arc as you recommended) I read most famous ones. And i just wanna read some comics even if ivy isn't main character, still have good arc.

sure. here are some favorites of mine:

batman legends of the dark knight (1989) #42 & 43 “hothouse”

batman/poison ivy: cast shadows (2004)

[no man’s land]

batman: shadow of the bat (1992) #88 “fruit of the earth part 1”

batman (1940) #568 “fruit of the earth part 2”

detective comics (1937) #735 “fruit of the earth part 3”

batman: harley quinn (1999)

detective comics (1937) #751 "a walk in the park part 1"

detective comics (1937) #752 "a walk in the park part 2"

[nu52]

batgirl (2011) annual #2 “when pamela gets blue”

[rebirth]

sensation comics featuring wonder woman #31 #32

all-star batman (2016-2017) #7 “ends of the earth part 2”

new talent showcase 2017 “silent screams”

batgirl and the birds of prey (2016) #12-17 #19 #21-22

[birindale]

Catra looks into ecoterrorism. Perfuma learns about stranger danger. The Netherlands are canon, I guess.

Transcript/Image ID below the cut

[Image Description: A cover and 14 comic pages from the She-Ra mini-comic, “A Most Unpleasant Present”.

Cover: Starburst She-Ra stands in a fairly small meadow of flowers, smiling at Flutterina as the latter lands. Perfuma stands between them, also smiling. The Princess of Power logo takes its customary place at the top of the page, while the title of the issue breaks from tradition and sits directly below it, reading "A Most Unpleasant Present" in violet, with a whisper of a black border surrounding it. At the foot of the page, on a wavy-striped green strip, the copyright info reads "Illustrations: (copyright symbol) Mattel, Inc. 1985. Hawthorne, CA 90250 U.S.A. PRINTED IN TAIWAN. All Rights Reserved. (registered trademark symbol) and TM designate U.S. trademarks of Mattel, Inc." Which is actually a little weird, because this is issue 8 and was released after Fishy Business. I guess they weren't necessarily produced in the order they were published in but huh. Huh!

Page 1: A pale lilac caption box reads, "Never was a garden in Etheria more lovely than the Laughing Swan Inn's. Perfuma tended her flowerbeds with care. Where a flower had bloomed and faded, she quickly planted another. Dainty lady's slippers and sweet candytufts, bright Dutchman's breeches and soft buttercups—each flower was a lovely work of art." Great, now the Netherlands are canon. 

Perfuma is walking through a garden with a basket of flowers in her arms. The artists don't share in the writer's proclivity for flowers, as they've taken the names literally and drawn literal lady's slippers, a pair of jorts overflowing with flowers like a scarecrow that's been chopped in half, and several flowers full of hard candies and candy canes, which is double stupid because candytufts aren't even named after candy (It's from Candia, former name of Crete's administrative capital). Which isn't to say the writer knows all that much, because those flowers would do pretty poorly if subjected to identical conditions. But perhaps Etheria has some kind of magical ability to filter its sunlight and soil drainage for individual flowers. Behind Perfuma is the Laughing Swan Inn, which is shaped like a giant pink swan. So I guess this is another of those things Mattel and Filmation had distinct designs for. 

End Page 1. 

Page 2: A pink caption box reads, "A bustle in the hedgerow took Perfuma by surprise. Looking up, she found a pretty cat-woman was standing at her side." Perfuma meets eyes with a sly-looking Catra, who's in her Scratchin' Sound Catra outfit, sans mask and gloves. Catra is emerging from a flower bed that might once have been a hedgerow but certainly isn't now.

"My my! Your flowerbeds are beautiful this time of year," says Catra, grinning with a little too much tooth.

"Won't you plant these seeds too? They're a special gift," she says, holding a neatly wrapped present out to a pleased Perfuma. It's wrapped in yellow paper and a blue bow. 

End Page 2.

Page 3: A pink caption box reads, "Perfuma quite unwittingly obliged. In an instant, pigweed and poison ivy sprang up everywhere! She found herself trapped in a tangle of briars with no hope for escape!" A startled Perfuma raises her arms and looks down at more plant names taken literally, with several shrubs sprouting pig heads and skull-and-crossbones blossoms. Poison ivy and pigweed are both used to refer to a series of weeds found primarily in eastern North America, especially further south. They're prickly and tend to snag, and of course poison ivy is an allergenic, irritating the skin and causing rashes, but neither of them has thorns so I wouldn't really use the term 'briar'. Like you're going to be pretty itchy and covered in seeds for a while, but you could simply walk out. 

"Soon all Etheria's gardens shall look like thisss!" says Catra, grinning again. 

End Page 3. 

Page 4: Oh, I see. This and page 3 form a two-page spread. Catra is standing on the other side of a meadow of weeds, arms held out and away from her body as if she's basking in the light of the sun, her face lit up with an exultant smile. There are more skulls and pigs heads around her, plus a few evil-looking fiddleheads that vaguely resemble ram horns. 

"Full of weeds… wonderful weeds!" says Catra, gesturing at her handiwork. Girl it was one seed bomb this is hardly guerilla gardening. 

End Page 4.

Page 5: A pink caption box reads, "Flutterina watched from a second story window at the inn. Spotting Catra, her face darkened. She knew she had to fly to Crystal Castle for help." Flutterina is standing on the world's smallest balcony, like I think as small as one can be before it stops being a windowsill. But it looks OSHA-compliant, so good for Thaymor. Perfuma and Catra are visible in the field of weeds below her. 

"So, Catra's up to her old tricks! I must get help quickly," says Flutterina, flying towards the Crystal Caslte.

End Page 5. 

Page 6: A pale purple caption box reads, "Spotting Flutterina in the air, Butterflyer took wing to meet her. Breathlessly, the young girl revealed Perfuma's plight. Her words echoed through Crystal Courtyard as Princess Adora listened secretly." So Butterflyer (usually called THE Butterflyer) was a carrying case released with Wave 2 of the toys. In-universe she was discovered by She-Ra in 'the beautiful caverns deep beneath Crystal Castle' sleeping in a cocoon and woke her up, whereafter she carried She-Ra and her friends around Etheria.

The illustration shows Adora watching Flutterina land in what's apparently called 'Crystal Courtyard', where Bow and a very green Mermista receive her. Like, her hair is green, her outfit is green, I literally wouldn't know this was Mermista aside from the necklace and seashell bodice. It doesn't help that (the) Butterflyer is nowhere to be seen despite being featured in the caption. 

A pale purple caption box reads, "She knew they would need her help. So she drew her Sword of Protection and said…" Adora holds the hilt of the sword, just in-frame. 

"For the honor of Grayskull…" says Starburst She-Ra, transforming with her arms spread wide, "I am She-Ra!"

End Page 6. 

Page 7: A pale pink caption box reads, "She-Ra leaped between Butterflyer's wings and beckoned her friends to join her. "Quick, everyone! We must help Perfuma stop Catra from ruining the beautiful gardens!" She-Ra said. In an instant they were airborne, heading for the Laughing Swan Inn." Oh good, we're back to quotations in the caption boxes. Bow and Mermista seem to be riding comfortably astride (the) Butterflyer, while She-Ra is like… floating alongside her? Her right hand is resting on her, but her left arm is held out and away from her body, while her legs float in free space. Flutterina flies along behind the Butterflyer. Mermista's hair is closer to teal than green on this page, so we're getting there. The Crystal Castle recedes into the distance behind them, sitting atop a beautiful pink mesa.

The Butterflyer is slightly smaller than her toy, proportionally speaking, being only about twice the size of the figures here. She's all pink, including skin and hair, though it's lighter and darker there, respectively. As a toy, her skin is a pearlescent white almost the same color as She-Ra's outfit, and her wings are a different, more flexible plastic, used as handles to carry the figures around. This picture is slightly off-model, as it shows the Butterflyer with her arms held back against her side aerodynamically, whereas the toy has them clasped in front of her and holding a white butterfly. She also has a different neckline; the toy has a scoop neck with a patterned border and the picture features more of a poorly-defined feather look. It's also sleeveless, instead of the elaborately patterned opera glove/sleeve combo of the toy. We can't even say they were keeping it closer to the Filmation design, because that one doesn't HAVE arms. 

End Page 7.

Page 8: Catra swoons extremely dramatically as a huge flower emerges from Perfuma's back and emits a large yellow cloud. A pale purple caption box reads, "Meanwhile, Perfuma had used her magic sleeping power to put Catra in a deep sleep. But she knew her power was only temporary and Catra would be awake soon." The skulls and pig heads are still there. 

"Oh my, I must have dozed off! Your power is strong, Perfuma, but not strong enough!" says Catra, who's awake again, after a single panel.

"Oh no… here comes She-Ra!" says Catra, looking mildly concerned.

End Page 8. 

Page 9: A pale purple caption box reads, "Down, down Butterflyer dived. Perfuma grabbed Bow's arm and off they flew leaving Catra behind in the brambles." Okay but if you just wanted to escape why not do it for the 5 seconds she was unconscious? I thought the idea was to stop her from seed-bombing the whole planet. Bow is floating off the side of the Butterflyer now too, his arm wrapped around Perfuma's waist to lift her to safety. Mermista and She-Ra are beaming at him. She-Ra has her sword raised ineffectually and Catra is seething in the meadow below.

"You butterbrains! Flee before you feel my fireweed at your feet!" says Catra, hurling what appears to be a flaming dandelion after them instead of the pioneer species also known as rosebay willowherb and bombweed. This time it seems not to be intended as a literal reference, at least.

End Page 9. 

Page 10: A pale purple caption box reads, "Mermista quickly put out the fireweed. Caught in the spray, Catra ran for cover. Swooping down, Butterflyer made a perfect landing at the Laughing Swan's front door." The Butterflyer smiles at a small explosion, as Mermista shoots a jet of water from her necklace at the fireweed. Mermista, Perfuma, Bow, and She-Ra are atop the Butterflyer, and there's a pair of butterfly wings behind Perfuma so I think the implication is that Flutterina is now, too? 

"Hurry, everybody! We have no time to waste!" says She-Ra, gesturing for her friends to spring into action now that they're all on the ground.

End Page 10. 

Page 11: A pale pink caption box reads, "She-Ra and her friends worked quickly to save Perfuma's garden. Bow began pulling weeds, but Catra hurled a tumbleweed that sent him sprawling. Waist-deep in tarweed, Mermista was helpless to stop him. Perfuma was certain Catra could not be stopped, but She-Ra had a plan." The princesses look on in mild concern as Catra gleefully throws a gross, fleshy, hollow orb at Bow. Honestly it looks like the mace of a nutmeg, without the nutmeg. There are still pig heads and skulls and such around everyone. The Laughing Swan Inn looms in the background but does help balance the composition a bit.

"It's time to give Catra a taste of her own medicine!" says She-Ra.

End Page 11.

Page 12: A pale purple caption box reads, "She-Ra sent Perfuma inside the Inn. When the girl returned, she held two tiny seeds—one in each hand. She-Ra told Perfuma she must trust the magic of the Sword of Protection and gently waved it over the girl's open palms." Perfuma looks down at her palms, held face up with a seed in each, as She-Ra holds a very short-looking Sword of Protection over them and lifts her other hand as though casting a spell. The sword and Perfuma's hands glow with sparkling purple magic. 

The seeds, about the size of blueberries, are coated in a golden light.

They grow larger, more the size of cherries. "Why, look!" says Perfuma.

They grow larger, now the size of kiwis. "The seeds have tripled in size!"

End Page 12.

Page 13: "Now quickly, Perfuma! Throw the seeds at Catra's feet!" says She-Ra. 

A pale purple caption box reads, "Huge snapdragons and dogwood sprang from the ground—their bark worse than their bite. Catra quickly darted away, quivering with fright." A dog-headed plant barks at Catra, while three 'dragon' plants snap. Catra looks apprehensive, rearing away from them but not yet running. Perfuma and She-Ra watch from the background, smiling wide.

End Page 13. 

Page 14: A pale purple caption box reads, "Perfuma's eyes were full of tears. Catra was gone indeed, but she had left her weeds behind! She-Ra gently spoke to the girl with words both wise and kind. "Catra plays some nasty tricks; but we can help you make your garden pretty again. Perfuma, I think we can all learn a lesson here!"" Is it the lesson that semicolons function as conjunctions and as such you should never follow it with a second? No? Just that you should always take plant names literally? 

She-Ra puts a consoling hand on Perfuma's shoulder. 

"Oh, yes! I know now that it's dangerous to take gifts from strangers," says a crying Perfuma, in the orange-ish red of recent morals.

"Come on everybody and pitch in! We have work to do!" says Bow, holding a hoe. 

End Page 14.

End ID]

[tastefulbean]

Sooooo thorns!valeries (and by extension the thorns!au which is based around Danny and Val’s interesting dynamic and exploring that!) has been on my mind recently. Still working on the ref but I figured I should go into detail about it.

The idea behind the thorns!au is this:

Valerie gained her ghost hunting gear originally from vlad right? And then later on she got her gear upgraded from technus. Despite her choosing to stay a ghost Hunter, the suit choice and ghost hunting gear were never really hers. This struck me as weird because she seems like the type to do her own thing and fight in a way that fit her.

Blood blossoms got introduced and like,,, never got used again? THEYRE SO INTERESTING THATS A CRIME. In this au, Val finds out about blood blossoms sooner than anyone and incorporates it into her suit. It inspires her to take it upon herself to become a ghost Hunter.

Red Thorn Huntress. *cue music*

Danny goes out of his way to become friends with her after being abandoned by the A-listers. He feels really guilty about Cujo so he tries to make amends.

(In this AU he has his identity under wraps. Not even sam and Tucker know)

This also gives her an excuse to visit the fentons and train under them! Perhaps even to visit Danny more often wink wink-

Thorns! Val’s fighting style is much more martial arts based. She’s not afraid to get up close and personal to fight, which I feel matches her personality. She had a black belt for Pete’s sake!! Blood blossoms are a huge part of her ghost fighting gear too, relying on poisoning and wearing out the enemy over time rather than blast first, ask questions later. The thorns on her gear contain potent poison that is dangerous to ghosts. (However it only mildly affects humans. Think like a mild poison Ivy rash. So it’s not a huge deal if she scratches herself)

Thorns! Val doesn’t fly around on a board, instead on a pair of rollerblade rocket boots to get around. Fenton brand of course! Makes her much more graceful and allows her more control whilst flying at her enemies midair. She can fly as fast as Danny if she tries.

She also has her identity under wraps, at least for a bit. (She’s smart enough to not let it get out otherwise her dad would ground her for life lol)

In this au, she still breaks up with Danny, wanting to keep him safe from her ghost hunting activities. However, they still stay friends even if it’s awkward and Danny feels bummed about it. She doesn’t like,,, up and disappear?? She becomes a part of his small friend group.

as phantom, he creates multiple opportunities to regain her trust and the two actually begin to team up more often, mutually defending the town and acting as equals. Say Danny isn’t able to patrol that night, Val picks up the slack and Amity park becomes a whole lot safer.

Haven’t decided where the idea may go from there but y'know that’s where future art will come in ;)

I started writing this as a fic but a comic might be fun too! (If I can find the time to work on it, that is)

But yeah! That’s basically what I got!