#citadel 1x01

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CITADEL “The Human Enigma” (1.01)

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Citadel (2023) - 1x01

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CITADEL | 1x01

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I keep seeing posts saying that the sylki kiss from 1x06 was retconned. Obviously I don't know for 100% certainty, the writers/show producers would have to confirm if anything was retconned or not for us to be certain. But I don't think anything was retconned. It is a bit confusing with all the time skipping etc, you've also got the fact that when Loki went back and spoke to OB in the past it changed things in the future. But when he went back in 2x06 to speak to Mobius and then Sylvie after those timelines dissolved away, so what's the difference? Well here's how I see it, and I am going to try my best to explain it using a metaphor and hope it makes sense. So Loki at the end transforms all the timelines into a tree, so lets run with that imagery and look at time like its a tree. You've got all your branches, that's the different timelines, then you've got your leaves on that branch which represents different moments in time. These moments/leaves exsist on multiple branches. Here is a diagram for you, I apologise for the crudeness, I was only able to put on coat of paint and it is not to scale:

I think we see Loki travel two different ways on this time tree I think when he goes back and speaks to OB he is jumping between different points on the same branch like this:

When he jumps back to speak to OB it kind of rearranges slightly the branch from that point forward, so now future OB remembers the conversation but everything else stays the same.

HWR says the way the loom works is that it deletes anything that isn't supposed to be there and just keeps the sacred timeline aka the events that HWR wants to happen. We know that the events of season 1 and 2 were what HWR wanted to happen, he says he paved the way, which is why I think after speaking to past Mobius in 2x06 the timeline dissolves. I think the way Loki is time-slipping in this episode where he is trying to find the right actions that will solve the problem and save the day is more like he is skipping between branches as opposed to the same branch, like this:

Only when he skips out of that the branch falls off and dies like after he spoke to Mobius and Sylvie.

When it comes to him repeating the same moment I see as him kind of bouncing from say his branch to that same moment on a different branch:

When it fails he slips back to that same moment and tries again. And its the same with the citadel. I suppose it would look more like this:

With that moment as a sort of fixed moment.

Actually another way of looking at it (and probably a simpler way if I am honest) is like every time Loki skips back after a failed attempt he's hitting the return to factory settings button, when you do that on a computer it erases everything you have added, everything you have done. In this case the factory settings are season 1 and season 2 up to 2x4.

So the sylki kiss and citadel moment weren't retconned or erased, neither was that first interview with Mobius in 1x01 because when Loki slipped back to the loom room for the last time he had hit the reset button. So the events of season 1 and 2 up to ep 4 stay, they are the in universe canon you could say. So the Sylvie we see talking to Mobius at the end is the same Sylvie who kissed Loki in 1x06, and went through all of season 1 and 2.

So what parts were retconned/ erased. Anything between the end of 2x4 and the end of 2x6. So sadly we have lost the bar scene from ep 5, we get to keep the kiss and the pie room scene though. The other scenes that got erased in this episode is Loki's conversation with Mobius where he asks how to choose who lives and dies. Also the conversation with Sylvie where he tells her he might have to kill her to stop her killing HWR is gone too. Though to note Loki still remembers it all.

Anyway that's my take on it, I hope it makes sense.

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Dahlia Archer » Citadel 1x01 The Human Enigma

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Hey there! I was thinking if you're open for requests if you could gif that scene of Citadel 1x01 when Kane panic at the hospital after the train crash when being restrained for broken the docs arm.

hi! im sorry for the late response. just posted the gifset for you… enjoy 🤗😁

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more citadel rambles

so in 1x06 mason tells his mom nadia is his wife. originally i thought he was being dramatic to appeal to her or w/e. but then priyanka in those little declassified things mentions nadia and mason being married. 

i went back to 1x01 and nadia asks about the wedding ring and after a little quip mason goes, ‘or maybe it’s just an old habit’ so i definitely think in the original writing they were married. but maybe during they changed it a rejected proposal.

i find them being married more compelling, personally. 

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Citadel: Diana 1x01 "Split in Two" ★★★★★★★★☆☆

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I just watched Citadel Honey Bunny 1x01 "Dancing and Fighting"

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Ich habe gerade geschaut Citadel: Diana 1x01 "Split in Two"

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The city and the citadel in La Révolution 1x01 'The Origins' (2020)

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Someone's watching Citadel 1x01 "The Human Enigma"

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Priyanka Chopra as Nadia Sinh in CITADEL 1x01

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Bad Batch 1x01 spoilers

I've never done something like this before, but I figured I'd start. Reactions to the first episode of The Bad Batch. (This ended up being a lot longer than I intended, but whatever)

Spoilers under the cut

Red logo burning away starts strong

Yay narrator dude!!

Feels like clones wars

Animated rots scenes!!

And what grevious did after the rots beginning

HOLY SHIT DEPA!!!!!

And caleb right???

And we're in

Omg who voiced young caleb bc it sounds a lot like fpj but aged down and he def doesn't sound like the 14 I know he was when this happened

I like how we started out on familiar characters but not ahsoka or anyone from tcw. We started w young kanan and his master and we know what happened to them and all but if anyone watching hasn't seen rebels they wouldn't be lost as to who caleb and depa are, they'd just assume they're random jedi in o66

Good ol droid screaming as it falls off a cliff

Wow. Them.

I love crosshair

And wrecker

And tech

And echo

And hunter

B1's are so dumb

Lmao the salt from hunter

I feel like depas forehead pearls are a bit unrealistically large but I have no cultural standpoint to really know so...

Caleb's voice is too deep in the same way that jack frost from rotg's voice doesn't match his character model

Ah wrecker not really knowing what she means and echo, the one who has been trained to deal w people and hung out w ani and obi is just like 'thanks general'

Obes kenobes mention

Why is echo so pale

Depa and caleb feel a little too pale too tbh I wonder if it's the lighting or the whitewashing

Wow caleb is a lot like ezra, I can see why kanan wanted to train him lol

Is this what separates caleb and depa, leading to her telling him to run??? Do I need to read dume???

Oh no

Noooooooooo

Bb didn't get the order!

Oh caleb nooooo! Nooooooo they didn't receive that order, they can help you!!!

And he's gone

Oh I need an au where caleb stayed with bb and they helped him after depa died

Hunter sounds so much like rex it's weird like ik they're supposed to sound the same but it feels like wrecker is replacing rex or something. Even tho ik rex's story is over for the time being

Crosshair, no! Don't shoot at him! He's baby

Oh no did crosshair get o66???? It didn't seem to trigger anything in any of the rest of them, but is crosshair close enough to 'reg' for it to have triggered???

😭😭good soldiers follow orders

"sure thing, boss" "hey hunter got a sitch"

Crosshair acting sus

Oh I love watching padawans fight, they're so good!!

I hope that hit to the tree did a lil cognitive recalibration for crosshair, he was acting crazy

Caleb looks so scared!! He just watched his master get gunned down by his friends and now strange clones are trying to kill him/confusing him

Oh caleb

Oh no crosshair don't try to kill him!! Hunters trying to help!

Also hunter doesn't sound as much like rex w the helmet off, but it's weird bc most of the clones are distinguishable by voice even w helmets on. I guess it's the 'im in charge' voice

Star wars if caleb had gone w the bb

Oh hunter u sly dog lying to crosshair so he doesn't go after him. U gotta figure out why crosshair responded to o66 and no one else in ur unit did

Oh crosshair knows he's been lied to

I will always love coming-out-of-hyperspace shots

Ooh kamino, always nice this time of year

Echo is done w wrecker

Why hasn't crosshair taken his helmet off yet, lil bit sus

They better get his chip out on kamino, I don't wanna deal w this

Oof hunter 

Oh who’s that, giving me cloud city vibes

Extreme cloud city vibes wow

Never realized how many clones are just on kamino

Coruscant guard?!?! FOX?!?!

The vibes here, omg

‘The war is over’ wow

Oh no who was that

A female jedi, doesn’t appear to be shaak, couldn’t see any montrals but never know, we don’t officially know how or where she died

Ok wow none of the bb has their helmets on except for crosshair, who got the order. The regs around kamino all have their helmets on. That scene in victory and death when ahsoka took rex’s helmet off- 

And crosshair, he’s actins strange too

Oh tech, do u guys get bullied by regs a lot??

I love their barracks

Lol he finally took his helmet off only to stick a toothpick in his mouth, can he get anymore cliched?

Wrecker is seeming a lot more infantilized than he was in the s7 eps...

Yeah crosshair’s being sus

Ooh, he shifted his toothpick

Lmao ‘what programming’

Well documented my ass

Tech’s speech patterns are so stiff and robotic, it’s like he has to remind himself to talk in basic instead of binary or some shit

Tech throwing shade at crosshair

I can’t quite tell if we’re supposed to like crosshair at this point

Lmao we been knew

Oop ‘more machine than man’ the vader parallels are serving folks

Understatement.

Ugh sheev

Crusty ass bitch

Straight from rots wow

Who is the mystery child and why does he look mandalorian

Ooh he gone

Oh no, the beninning of the empire

Cheering?? Why?!?

That imperial march fade in tho

Thank you echo

Oh shit mystery child is female

Omega, I would not have guessed the pronunciation of your name by reading it wow

She def seems mandalorian

Ugh kaminoans

Oh the kaminoan pronounced it as it usually is, huh.

Omega’s character model def seems more masculine than female, I now headcanon her as trans

Ugh tarkin, I hate that crusty bitch

Empire politics ugh

I love how much shade is being thrown at tarkin and his stormtrooper proposal lmao

Why do all these clones have the standard haircut?? ik them boys like their variety, even if these boys are still under o66′s programming

Wrecker you’re being extremely loud

They’re all being loud in the mess, why

They remember, kid

Lol child

Oh my sweet summer children

The dad instinct was clearly passed genetically from jango lol all these clones got it

Why are background characters so mean? What about it, shiny? Why is ur hair regulation, reg??

The Sad Batchn omg the slander

Lol the food fight I’ve read about in the fics, its finally happening!

Is she.... australian??

The over-animation of character movements in this is reminding me of the looser style of rebels, as opposed to the more clunky style of tcw

Lmao he’s still got food on him

Food fight!!

‘Not again’???!!! Echo!! Wdym not again?! Food fights have happened before?!?? Wait. W bb or w torrent, bc I can see torrent having food fights on the resolute-

Crosshair’s just eating his food until someone messes

I like how echo still has his kamas

Oh no echo!!

Oh echo’s trauma, he doesn’t trust medical droids! Where’s kix when u need him, huh?

Lol, comically long name for a robot trope is alive and well, huh

Lmao the droid lowers his voice like ik this is a perceived bad thing, but I will not tolerate this slander, boys u need to get off kamino

‘The shock’ lmao whyyy

Lmao tech!!

Oh, echo recognized tarkin from the citadel!

‘When you blew up’ lmao

Oh they make me sad

Aaaaah fox!

Man the domino squad nostalgia

Those droids look cool

This is a neat scene, I like seeing them in action

Wrecker reminding me of hevy, but he’s got the training and success to back it up

Live fire???? No!!

Ugh I hate tarkin

Oh no wtecker

Did he just get shot!???! 

Oh no crosshair, be careful!

Tarkin’s trying to kill them!!!

Lol wrecker I love you

Echo using his mech hand as a weapon, truly an arc

Now I wanna see what happened on felucia

I like how tech’s just sitting on the droid’s shoulders

And hunter just had a knife

These boys, I love them

Oh no tech bby

Hot damn that was cool

Wrecher things so too lmao

Tarkin’s like “why didn’t that work??’

Oh new baby clones

No tf they could not, they would never serve the empire and those bitches

I love that they have a window apartment lol

Ugh tarkin u shifty

They all stand at attention, only after glaring at tarkin

Oh no onderon

I hate tarkin, he’s a bitch

How quickly could bitch lord and darth sad have replaced the armory on kamino??

Crosshair still acting sus

Neither does echo, kid

No.

I like omega.

Crosshair, with the sassy hand on the hip-

What does that even mean?? Or elude to??

Lmao tech messing w wrecker, they rlly r bros

Its prob the vegetation

Oh, I missed onderon, but not this much

Lol the put-upon sigh

Its clearly saw and his rebels

Saw! Looking sharp, what’s w the hair....

That’s a very geometric beard, saw

They didn’t kill any jedi!

That’s not what happened, tech

‘The clones’ bitch that was rex and ahsoka, check urself

Aw, I’ve always like the design of imperial probe droids

Thank you, echo

It seems like crosshair’s o66 programming and his mutation are warring w his morals

Lmao the shade

I knew she was an enhanced clone!

Oh, so she is (at least on paper) trans! She’s a clone of jango, and yet she’s female! That must be her modification, but it makes me wonder why

Lol *flicks toothpick*

Aw, they have a picture of themselves! Recent-ish, too, its got echo!

Oh no, AZI!

The difference between them arriving earlier and now, the lack of escort...

Creepy how they had to open the hanger door themselves

Oh no! Everyone!

The coruscant guard, I wish they had gotten better

Tarkin u dramatic bitch

‘The brig’ this ain’t some tallship

Lol echo that shade

Their blacks are different from the ones seen in the past

Crosshair, stop being a bitch

Oh, I don’t like that phrase!! And the fact that crosshair screamed it in echo’s face makes me uneasy. Did rex fill echo in on why fives died?? I hope so...

Crosshair, ur chip hurting??

This child, I like her.

No! Don’t hit hunter!

No crosshair!!!!

I dislike this immensly

So they do still have inhibitor chips!

Tarkin you monster

Oh poor crosshair

ihatethisihatethisihatethis

Lol tech I love you

Wrecker you sweet pea

Lol that’s adorable

I love how they form a “wall” its so suspicious 

He was about to say that, omega

Aaww, echo protective boi

Wrecker shut up tf

That was cool

Sneaky bois

This reminds me of rex and ahsoka sneaking around in v&d

Echo runs so stupid

Oh no they winter soldier’d him!

If he says who the hell is crosshar, I will lose my shit

Yes, he has. They took it from him.

The toothpick

I wonder how they’re gonna get crosshair back to normal

Not good that they nabbed the sniper

Oh, crosshair shot him in the same place he got hit during training!

Ooh, a kaminoan on their side!

I hope omega doesn’t die

Poor trigger etiquette, crosshair

Wonder if omega has any speciality training

They’re just gonna leave him there!?!?!?!?!

Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Omega reminds me of young boba 

Oh, so its in her dna

Go back for crosshair!!

Holy fucking shit that was amazing! I didn’t expect it to be that long, but I’m not complaining! This ended up being a lot longer than I anticipated, but I don’t feel like cutting anything out, so sorry for the long post but at least I put it under a cut.

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As I was composing my posts on Jonsa parallels, I found some clues that made me inclined to think that Sansa would already be pregnant when she would (probably) be kidnapped by Cersei. I have stated this in my 1x04 parallels post. I also found quite a lot when I made 2x06/2x07 parallels which I will post soon. I don’t know if the child would be a bastard or if they had a chance to marry before. Since I saw several posts this morning about the kidnapping plot including a possibility of a pregnant Sansa that’s being kidnapped, I thought it would be exciting to post about the clues I found.

So all the clues would fit if Sansa is pregnant with Jon’s child, possibly a boy, and then she is kidnapped by Cersei. Sansa will give birth while still in Cersei’s captive. Jon dropped everything he is doing to rush and save Sansa and his child. Possibly Jon will arrive when Sansa is on labour.

Now why I think this would make sense with the story is first because Cersei and Sansa very much bonded around their womanly role and their capacity of birthing children. Also, bearing children and being a mother is such an important part of Sansa’s arc that I think it should be portrayed more than just an epilogue, it should be a part of the story. And with the way she bonded with Cersei it would make sense if she experience her childbirth close to Cersei.

In the very first episode, Cersei has already asked a very intimate question related to Sansa’s reproductive capacity.

Cersei Lannister in 1x01 - Winter is Coming

Then of course their intimate talk in 2x07 when Sansa first had her period.

Cersei Lannister in 2x07 - A Man Without Honor

Meanwhile Jon’s theme has a lot to do with honor and duty versus love and family. There is a lot of foreshadowing for Jon to choose love or duty, and will you look at that episode title above when Cersei mention Sansa birthing a child.

Of course the biggest clue about Jon choosing between love and duty is in his conversation with Maester Aemon in 1x09. But let’s really look at that conversation shall we?

“What is honor compared to a woman’s love...

Maester Aemon in 1x09 - Baelor

A newborn son. Now that is awfully specific and doesn’t make sense in the context of the story when it was being said. What makes more sense in the context is “brother’s smile” which refers to Robb Stark, but even that can be interpreted differently, which I will get back to later.

Let’s get back to Cersei and Sansa and how Cersei was telling the story about Joffrey’s birth. We know that Joffrey is Jaime’s son and not Robert’s. Her brother’s son. What could be better for Cersei than to witness Sansa giving birth to her own “brother’s” son?

And again, let’s look at the specifics of her story, yeah?

Cersei Lannister in 2x07 - A Man Without Honor

In Game of Thrones, stories told by a character often later happens to another character. I’m gonna go ahead and think that Jon will rush to Sansa during labour, and he will hold his newborn son in his arms. So Jon, Sansa’s brother (but not really) will father her child and will be by her side during labour. And Sansa will see “a brother’s smile” as he hold the newborn son that she just present him. I’ll add another statement from Maester Aemon here:

Maester Aemon in 1x09 - Baelor

This was when he told Jon the story of the demise of his own family. Maekar was his father, and Aegon his little brother became king when he refused the throne. Aerys was Aegon’s son. He could’ve said “my nephew” but the words chosen here is “my brother’s son”.

There is a lot of parallels between Jon/Sansa to Sam/Gilly as well. I’m just going to point out the ones related to this theory. In 5x10, Sam asked Jon to send him and Gilly and the baby to Citadel so they would be safe.

“If Gilly stays here then she’ll die. And the baby that she named after me will die. And I’ll end up dying too to protect them...

Samwell Tarly in 5x10 - Mother’s Mercy

Gilly and the baby is a package here. The package is always a woman’s love and her baby. More parallels with Sam/Gilly in 4x09. Sam was worried about Gilly after he send her away and Castle Black is preparing for the wildlings attack. He reads in the library about the wildlings and Maester Aemon came to chat with him. Maester Aemon started with the quote “love is the death of duty”, linking the conversation with Sam to his conversation with Jon. He knows Sam is in love with Gilly and worried about her.

Maester Aemon in 4x09 - The Watchers on The Wall

Do you know what happens after this? Gilly comes at the gate, and Sam told Pyp to “open the gate” and then Sam told Gilly that “from now on, wherever you go, I go too”. Doesn’t that reminds you of the Jonsa reunion?

As if I need more evidence that Jon will risk everything to save Sansa, here is what Jaime said.

Jaime Lannister in 1x03 - Lord Snow

This conversation follows regarding Bran knowing about their affair and they are afraid he would wake up.

“And if he does, I’ll kill him. Him, Ned Stark, the King, the whole bloody lot of them until you and I are the only people left in this world”.

Now who do we know often going berserk over something? Yes, Jon, when it comes to Sansa.

Now a question of whether the child will be a bastard or not or if they ever get married before Sansa got pregnant. This is something I am not really sure, but there are some clues for the child to be a bastard.

Jon Snow in 1x04 - Cripples, Bastards and Broken Things

Septa Mordane in 1x04 - Cripples, Bastards and Broken Things

The line that gets me here beside the parallel is “before too long”. That suggest the child is conceived early on. How early... we don’t know.

But would they ever? Would Jon and Sansa could ever do it before they get married?

I’m going to use Jon and Sam’s conversation in 4x09. First they use the “red hair” as a “hook”, again to link the conversation to Sansa, like they did in 1x04. Sam was asking what was Ygritte like.

Jon Snow in 4x09 - The Watchers on The Wall

Then Jon asked whether Sam has ever done it with Gilly. Sam answered that she just had a baby and that she never offered.

Jon Snow in 4x09 - The Watchers on The Wall

What vows Jon? That you would never father a bastard? What if Sansa offered, Jon? What would you do?

Note that this conversation happened as they are preparing to be attack by the wildlings and they thought they were going to die. Just like how they are in season 8.

Samwell Tarly in 4x09 - The Watchers on The Wall

But what about Daenerys? Let’s hear what Maester Aemon has to say.

Maester Aemon in 4x09 - The Watchers on The Wall

So Jon is also a future king, the heir to the Iron Throne. Some girls were quite forward, but then only one succeeded in gaining the future king’s affection. Wanna guess which one?