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arcticdementor · 7 months ago
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On my "REAL Banned Book List", unlike Barnes and Noble's fake "banned" book tables, works of fiction very rarely appears.  School teachers might want children to believe short simple books readable by adolescents are "Banned" because Oooo👻 forbidden fruit, don't read the age appropriate short fiction the school librarian tells you to".. But in reality 95+% of real banned books are non-fiction political tracts, censored histories, or terrorist manuals. And the fiction books that are banned are usually fictionalized versions of those, works like "Camp of the Saints", or "The Turner Diaries", despite their ability to move people emotionally are not banned for their emotional content but for their political content (and in the case of "The Turner Diaries" its accurate instructions on bomb making)Subscribe HOWEVER! There is one series that was driven from bookstores, and by the late 90s was almost totally disappeared based purely on the... "feelings"... it generated in its readers. A fantasy series set entirely on another world with more or less nothing to say about politics back on earth, awakened... stirrings... in its readers so disturbing to the powers that be it had to be stopped.
The Chronicles of GOR by John Norman (Pen-name of Philosophy Professor John Lange) Begun in 1966 and continuing to... today (he's 92), the 38 book series is a Pulp Science Fantasy series in the vein of Edgar Rice Burroughs' "Barsoom" series (shout out to John Carter of Postcards From Barsoom ) It has a lot of neat fantasy/historical/military hypotheticals to get the young male mind going "what if Vikings raided Japanese samurai cities with flying monsters?" but the thing that outraged the feminists and what they'd never admit enraged them, was its effect on female readers.
This is the world and theory of mind Norman paints with a philosopher's attention to completeness... 38 books deconstructing and undoing not only modern feminist ideas of equality, but Christian ideas of the equality of the soul and nobility of the feminine spirit. By any standard maybe the most sexist misogynistic books ever written, not out of ignorance or resentment but a philosopher's indifference to any social or ethical preening that might impede the truth... And women freaking loved it.
Consummately refusing to acknowledge or accept that Norman's audience ws well beyond 50% female (men read it for the war and there's tons of books on that) feminists starts campaigns insisting that Norman's audience was entirely male abusers and misogynists, and naive young impressionable boys who needed to be taught not to rape, but were being taught the opposite. Of course Norman had merely written the type of violently sexual romances that had been staples of harlequin romances and women's lit had been romanticizing for decades if not centuries... on paper he'd just made the war scenes more realistic and engaging aside from the fantasy fortresses and rideable giant birds. But he did something 30s romance writers like Margaret Mitchell, and now tens of thousands of romance, erotica, and fanfic authors never did in all their sexy violent stories... Something the feminists could never forgive him for. Sandwiched between the fighting and the fornication, he explained with a philosopher's exactness, WHY those stories are sexy. Amidst the pulp adventures and wars on an alien world, and the sexy slavery, Norman lays out a comprehensive theory of human sexuality utterly incompatible with feminism, "Democracy", equality, and possibly even Christian civilization. He summoned the primordial lusts and hungers from the cruel ages of humanity into the hearts and souls of his readers, and he told them their names such that they could never forget them, nor look upon the egalitarian world world around them with anything but boredom and disdain. In short: It's pretty hot.
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therealbeachfox · 1 day ago
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So, I know the percentage of Tumblr users with the knowledge overlap to properly answer this question is low, but I have to ask it anyways.
Is it valid to argue that The Gorean Saga/Chronicles of Counter-Earth books are the first Harem Isekai?
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gameraboy2 · 1 year ago
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Outlaw of Gor, In the Chronicles of Counter-Earth #2 by Boris Vallejo
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eighthdoctor · 2 years ago
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sometimes the writing bug bites and won't let go, despite minimal knowledge of either canon.
complete id-fic which means i've put an extensive amount of thought into it.
or: what if jaina and sylvanas get to fix someone else's problems for a change.
They stare at each other: Sylvanas, still fading into mist at the edges, armor covered in blood, and Proudmoore, one glove discarded and hand black past the wrist, tear-stained face, robes similarly bloody and ragged. “Well? Were you planning to summon a water elemental out of the foliage to help you with your healing?” “I would love to,” snarls Proudmoore, “but unfortunately, once again, I cannot cast.”
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ultrakatua · 2 years ago
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My conclusion after 40 hours or so is that Monolith Soft were fucking insane for this game
I have no idea how much it sold but certainly not enough to match the insanity that must have went into developing it
The map is just SO HUGE and so far I've counted a grand total of ONE area locked behind a loading screen (the barracks). Everything else is 100% seamless and big and cool
And it's big but not "big empty" like Xenoblade 1 was, no, it's bursting with life and multi layered. The moment you get a Skell it changes everything and I suppose being able to fly will be another "what the hell" moment
Also I don't have the HD pack or whatever was downloadable on the eShop and it's still beautiful and running perfectly. Don't ask me how but I'll probably have to finish it before summer comes and the console just bursts
Yes I'm playing on a (borrowed) WiiU and while I'm at it, they also went insane with the control pad??? Low-key I get why they don't know how to remake this game, there's no way a simple menu to replace the pad would hit the same
I have like ten party members so far and it's obviously far from over... Also I discovered an entire alien species from a side quest?? Hello???
And I wasn't expecting that level of customisation for... Well, everything really, but especially the Skells. So far it's been easy enough I'm just making silly builds... No augment, no nothing. I doubt I'll find the will power to optimise because it's just... Borderline too much to look at. The online must have been a trip back in the days
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arnold-layne · 5 months ago
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im SO tired but guess what… cant sleep again….
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thehauntedrocket · 2 years ago
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The Chronicles Of Counter-Earth by John Norman
Art by Robert Foster
Ballantine Books (1972/1972/1973)
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my-t4t-romance · 1 year ago
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people complain about isekai animes but I feel like we don't complain about the gor books enough
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slushmonsterz · 2 years ago
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this is how i look remembering no matter what happens, no matter how i feel about it, no matter how bad it is whenever cc puts out a tsc book i will buy it.
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systlin · 2 months ago
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Oh goodie do I have something for you
Two hundred ten thousand words of it!
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tequila-solar-storm · 2 months ago
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Mild NS/FW
Hoping gor the NPC yapfest as long as it'll be about ajaw lore xD honestly I did quiet enjoy Cyno's story quest 2 so I won't complain if we get smth like that!! Also enjou being in Kinich's tribal chronicle felt like a deliberate choice?? I dunno they could have thrown him in an event but thay picked that specific quest. (Btw I forgot to say this but "Masochist on masochist communication" made me laugh xD enjou reappearing and interacting with kinich was such a nice highlight haha)
I did lose my 50/50s 5 times in a row so I'd understand Ajaw's pain lmaoo all this talking about their kiddos makes me want to draw them lol, if I ever do that may I send em your way??
Can't blame the people who enjoy danger!! And Kinich's pretty sleeping face might be worth some sacrifices........
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JOKES ASIDE response below the cut!
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The Cyno SQ 2 had some flaws but otherwise it’s really solid!! A perfect 8/10!! With an extra point added because I love Sethos HAHA
It’ll be great if the NPC in question is our beloved masochist Enjou/Sanka! I can’t decide what I like more; Enjou yapping to the Traveller about Ajaw lore as they chase him around Natlan or Enjou and Ajaw bickering for 2 hours straight. Either way I’m playing it the moment it gets released!
OOF you lost 50/50 that many times?? That’s so rough 😭 Here’s to you getting your next 5 star with a 10 pull and no pity 😤😤!!!
Ajaw’s always delusional HAHA it’ll take a lot to wake him up from it! And Kinich family!! They definitely deserve all the happiness and Mora!! I’d LOVE to see your take on the Ajaw/Kinich kids if you do draw them!! You can either post it on your own blog and send me the link, or send it through asks if you want to remain anonymous!!
Now I’m trying to picture them as well. They’re obviously going to have Kinich’s beautiful eyes, his eyelashes too, and of course, melanin. I don’t have a strong mental image of human Ajaw for now, so maybe green hair? An awesome pair of sunglasses? Yellow clothes?
Talking about kids, imagine Kachina getting her piercing as a birthday gift! Like when she turns older Mualani goes ‘HAPPY BIRTHDAY TIME TO GET PIERCED’ and Kachina’s super excited because she’s been waiting for it!!
Regarding the tongue piercing, it’ll catch SO many people off guard. The first time kissing him is like WOOP! METAL! Or if they skipped the foreplay and he’s giving them head their dick will suddenly be graced by this cold thing HAHA
Kinich’s so pretty of course risking one’s dick to play with him when he’s asleep is worth it! Just make sure to buy medical insurance beforehand!! Actually does Natlan even have insurance…
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katerinaaqu · 2 months ago
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When Dilla first returned to her village after years and years following Caleb to the Rebellion, she was feeling hell through her bones;
Her heartbeat was faster than the average gor her people, her palms would often sweat; at nights she would jump at any sound. She would literally sleep with a knife under her pillow which she would be ready to use. She wouldn't be able to spar normally because every spar could potentially lead to a real fight. Every time some hunting trip was due, she would always volunteer regardless of whether she had any sleep or rest or anything and she would always fight first.
Like any adrenaline junkie, veteran she would desperately seek balance in her life trying to re-adjust to her life of her village. Parallel to this her mind would be constantly running back to Caleb; was he alive or was he dead? Was he succeeding or was he hurt during the war? Did he have enough to eat or drink or good sleep? She would always toss and turn in the thought of it. It would take weeks under the care and patience of her brother Ballard and the rest of her co-villagers till she would finally find balance to her life and her heart and learn how to live in her previous style
And I believe she succeeded just fine given how she then takes over healing Caleb from when he hits rock bottom!
Complicated issues we deal with for our stuff with @artsofmetamoor (check out our tags for "Chronicles of Metamoor" for more high fantasy info! We are both open for questions ^_^)
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abigailspinach · 2 months ago
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Think of your favorite fantasy or science fiction novel. You’ll know the author and title, of course. But can you think of its editor or publisher?
In publishing, the people who work behind the scenes rarely get their due. But on Oct. 1, 2024, at least, one industry pioneer got the limelight. On that day, PBS aired “Judy-Lynn del Rey: The Galaxy Gal,” the first episode of its new documentary series “Renegades,” which highlights little-known historical figures with disabilities.
A woman with dwarfism, Judy-Lynn del Rey was best known for founding Del Rey Books, a science fiction and fantasy imprint that turned fantasy in particular into a major publishing category.
Judy-Lynn del Rey, you see, had very clear notions on what kind of stories people wanted to buy. For some critics, she also committed the unforgivable sin of being right.
The Mama of ‘Star Wars’
Over the course of her career, del Rey earned a reputation as a superstar editor among her authors. Arthur C. Clarke, who co-wrote the screenplay for “2001: A Space Odyssey,” called her the “most brilliant editor I ever encountered,” and Philip K. Dick said she was the “greatest editor since Maxwell Perkins,” the legendary editor of Ernest Hemingway and F. Scott Fitzgerald.
She got her start, though, working as an editorial assistant – in truth, a “gofer” – for the most lauded science fiction magazine of the 1960s, Galaxy. There she learned the basics of publishing and rose rapidly through the editorial ranks until Ballantine Books lured her away in 1973.
Soon thereafter, Ballantine was acquired by publishing giant Random House, which then named del Rey senior editor. Yet her first big move was a risky one – cutting ties with Ballantine author John Norman, whose highly popular “Gor” novels were widely panned for their misogyny.
Nonetheless, del Rey’s mission was to develop a strong backlist of science fiction novels that could hook new generations of younger readers, not to mention adults. One early success was her “Star Trek Log” series, a sequence of 10 novels based on episodes of “Star Trek: The Animated Series.”
But del Rey landed an even bigger success by snagging the novelization rights to a science fiction film that, at the time, few Hollywood executives believed would do well: “Star Wars.”
This savvy gamble led to years of lucrative tie-in products for Ballantine such as calendars, art books, sketchbooks, the Star Wars Intergalactic Passport and, of course, more novels set in the Star Wars universe – so many different tie-ins, in fact, that del Rey dubbed herself the “Mama of Star Wars.”
Afterward, she became someone who, as reporter Jennifer Crighton put it, radiated “with the shameless glee of one of the Rebel forces, an upstart who won.”
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lurking-latinist · 1 year ago
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reviving a meme I previously got from @swinging-stars-from-satellites
1. How many works do you have on Ao3?
158 (one currently unrevealed).
2. What’s your total Ao3 word count?
103,185. I cracked 100k recently!
3. How many fandoms have you written for?
All the Doctors Who + Gallifrey + Iris Wildthyme + The Time Travellers + GoR etc.; Ancient Greek Religion & Lore; WtOVPIC; Blake’s 7; Dracula; Discworld; Windrose Chronicles & Sun-Cross series also by Barbara Hambly (one crossover); All Creatures Great and Small; Lost at Christmas, heaven help me. That makes nine as I count it. Most only for one small thing or crossover.
4. Top 5 fics by kudos?
Skipping kudos bot victims:
Ms Smith (13 and Sarah, fun with fake names)
don’t worry, he’s with me (Ten and Donna five-times-fic)
Vicarious (Six & Martha drabble)
Time Flies Like an Arrow (witches fly on a broomstick) (Discworld, Lancre Witches, having a philosophical conversation about time) (I have come to detest this title but I’m glad people enjoyed the fic)
to all our nights and days to come (Seven/Romana Time War AU)
It’s helpful to include extremely popular, well-known characters in your fics. Or, apparently, to write a slightly darker twist on your rarepair OTP and happen to plug it one day on a relevant popular post.
5. Do you respond to comments? Why/why not?
I do, because I love getting comments and I am always genuinely grateful to hear that someone has enjoyed my work!
6. A fic you’ve written with the angstiest ending?
Wow, last time I did this meme I said it was That Which We Call. That’s changed. It might actually be to all our nights and days to come, or else one of the Six-post-Trial ones.
7. Do you write crossovers?
Apparently! But not much, and not well.
8. Ever received hate on a fic?
Nope, touch wood.
9, Do you write smut?
Not my thing.
10. Have you ever had a fic stolen?
Not that I know of.
11. Ever had a fic translated?
Yes!! @sci-firenegade translated Making History into Portuguese! It is so cool.
12. Have you ever co-written a fic?
Sort of, with Moki! We more tend to write sequels to each other’s stuff, but we also have listed ourselves as co-authors on a couple of things.
13. All time fav ship?
Seven/Romana.
14. WIP you want to finish but don’t think you ever will?
Never say die! Probably the Eight/Charley babyfic AU, though. If I go back to it it’ll be as a very different writer and I’ll probably want to rework what exists and it’ll be technically a different fic.
15. Writing strengths?
Character voices & dialogue. Also, focalization. I always know what A thinks of B and what B notices about A, which is hilarious as I absolutely do not know any of this in real life.
16. Writing weaknesses?
Used to be length; I’m still very brief but I feel like I have more control over the length of a fic now. Like it comes out more or less the length I expect it to; I can tell what size something’s gonna be. Probably now I would just say plot. I’m not great at Things Occurring. And like everybody else I get hung up on how to describe basic actions like walking across a room.
17. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in a fic?
Don’t do it if you can’t get the other language right (as well as how code-switching actually tends to work). Also, translation convention exists for a reason. Probably don’t pull an ‘opening lines of War and Peace’ unless you are in fact Tolstoy, in which case you don’t need my writing advice. Nothing inherently wrong with it though.
18. First fandom you wrote for?
Officially, DW. Unofficially, probably something as a kid before I knew fandom existed. Redwall or something.
19. What’s your fav fic you’ve written so far?
to all our nights and days to come, probably.
Not tagging anyone, but memes are for stealing!
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eighthdoctor · 1 year ago
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is there any rhyme or reason to who the priest kings steal from earth in the gor chronicles? bc it might be 1976 or whatever but women were still engineers/doctors/teachers etc. I just wondered if they specifically chose women who were 'unremarkable' or if they just chose at random
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the one in-depth look I've gotten at who to steal from earth strongly suggests it's appearance only. norman gorman knows women can have jobs he just would like to express disapproval at the very idea.
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If I had a nickel for every time a cult based around shitty sci-fi books released a hilarious bad movie based on said novels, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.
(Not just Scientology, Chronicles of Gor released two movies one of which was featured on MST3K)
Well I know what I’m going to look into next
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