#char clones

[userobiwan]

Star Wars: The Clone Wars ➤ 4.02 Gungan Attack

requested by @blue-thrawn

[naboosands]

Every now and then Master Fisto *accidentally* lands on the Vogue Coruscant cover and the rest of the Council lose their minds

Bonus:

[wordsandrobots]

I think -- and this is just an immediate reaction -- that it is perhaps a mistake to say the red suits are always associated with the Char Clones in a setting. Yes, they often are, but I think it would be fairer to say that red usually denotes 'rival' more than it does 'Char Clone'.

Athrun is the obvious point of reference for this: he is Kira's rival, but doesn't take the antagonist role in SEED in a way that usually falls to the resident 'Char'. You've also got Epyon in Gundam Wing, which while end up in Zechs hands, it does so only after Zechs has ditched much of his Char-like symbols. Prior to that, Epyon serves as a test of character, a rival path that various people have to struggle with (there's a deliberate duality between it and Wing Zero, with Epyon being a dark reflection of any already dangerous force).

In Iron-Blooded Orphans, the Grimgerde is part of the confusion of symbolism surrounding McGillis; who exactly it will become the rival to remains unclear to then end of Season 1 and it is eventually set aside as the 'rival' characteristics shift elsewhere (the red is changed to blue, in opposition to purple). It's a deliberate invocation of Char, but not a straightforward one.

Meanwhile series like Turn A or Reconguista in G also have Char-adjacent characters who don't use red suits. Harry Ord adopts Quattro's gold colour scheme to go along with his status as a more straightforwardly good force in the plot (the red suit falls to Joseph, who does indeed act as a semi-friendly rival to Loran), while Captain Mask kind of dots around between various different colour schemes. Gundam 00 largely ditches all-red suits for its Char Clone: Graham uses mainly black, with red falling instead to Nina Trinity and Ali al-Saachez -- both rival characters to the heroes but not what I'd really call the Chars of the setting.

In short, while Char and 'rival' are synonymous in the original show, such that being a rival to the hero is one of the hallmarks of a Char Clone, not every rival is a clone of Char. Therefore, red gains a slightly different valence over the course of the subsequent shows than it had originally. (Heck, even in 79, Char's final suit is blue, not red.)

Given all this, I don't think it's weird that the red suit would go to Guel. He is firmly in the position of Suletta's rival throughout G Witch, even when neither of them really want that.

Huh, just realised something. Gundam normally makes a big deal about red Mobile suits, since it’s the colour associated with Char and the various Char Clones (I’m not gonna do a taxonomic breakdown right now, but the only Char Clone without those associations that leap to mind is Rau le Cruset, which is because Athrun is the one with red mobile suits in that series). So Red=Important, in other words.

Thing is, I can’t really think of any way Witch From Mercury uses this. Yeah, the Darilbalde above is red, and it’s piloted by Guel Jeturk, one of the Three House Rivals in Witch From Mercury, but it doesn’t really do much? And while Guel himself is an Antagonist, he’s nothing like Char.

So giving him a red suit seems pretty meaningless, moreso because he already had a custom pink colour scheme on his Dilanza. But it’s the only red suit we see, so….?

Feel free to let me know if I’ve missed something here.

[phonification]

they put cob's corpse in the eternal torture chamber this is all i ever wanted

[crimson-nail]

GIVE ME CONTROL OF S2 DONT BE SHY I DONT BITE PUT YOUR FINGERS IN MY ENCLOSURE I DONT BITE

[wordsandrobots]

#I think it’s funny to throw borderline clones in the pile#like Ginias (from 08th) and Wong (from G) and Lancerow (from X)#and yes I DO have a reason for counting all of those as borderlines! but also none of them properly wear masks so#can’t add them onto the post about Those Masked Fucks specifically

See, if we're going strictly by the archetype, Glemy from ZZ counts far more clearly. And I actually have half a theory about why we'd group Ulube in with the likes of Gihren, Treize or Durandal, which is that they present a slightly different threat compared to the rival figure embodied by Char. They're the big picture, philosophical boss, rather than a guy who is struggling with the same things as the protagonist just on the other side/from a different perspective. I feel that's ultimately at the heart of what makes a Char clone: the mirror-darkly stuff, where they reflect Our Hero in some significant way.

Mostly, however, I wanted to line up the lineage of that particular *look* because I was vaguely interested in how it's evolved over the years.

Fear not, everyone, I am here today with an exhaustive* spotter's guide to that bunch of masked lunatics we like to refer to as 'Char clones' in the Gundam fandom. Because people are always getting into this monolith of the mecha anime canon and I thought it would save some confusion.

Row 1, left to right:

Char Aznable (Mobile Suit Gundam, 1979): hey, it's that guy!

Quattro Bajeena (Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, 1985): it's that guy, again, supposedly

Free space (Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, 1986): ZZ omits masked lunatics to make room for all the unmasked lunatics

Iron Mask (Mobile Suit Gundam F91, 1991): evil uncle stepfather dad cut-price Darth Vader

Cronicle Asher (Mobile Suit Victory Gundam, 1993): some guy who is not really trying with this whole 'mysterious masked man' thing

Schwarz Bruder (Mobile Fighter G Gundam, 1994): just your average German ninja sportsman guy (honest)

Row 2, left to right:

Zechs Merquise (New Mobile Report Gundam Wing, 1995): a totally new guy with very familiar fashion-sense

Jamil Neate (After War Gundam X, 1996): ersatz guy, but not the one you think

Harry Ord (Turn A Gundam, 1999): what a guy!

Rau Le Cruset (Mobile Suit Gundam SEED, 2002): not that guy

Neo Roanoke (Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny, 2004): also not that guy, or that guy

Graham Aker (Mobile Suit Gundam 00, 2007): This guy...

Row 3, left to right:

Full Frontal (behave yourselves; Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn, 2010): not that guy either, probably, maybe, perhaps

Zeheart Galette (Mobile Suit Gundam AGE, 2011): a guy named after baked goods

Luin Lee (Gundam Reconguista in G, 2014): 'Captain Mask'

McGillis Fareed (Mobile Suit Gundam IRON-BLOODED ORPHANS, 2015): a guy who is way too into this

Vidar (Mobile Suit Gundam IRON-BLOODED ORPHANS, 2016): say, Iron-Blooded Orphans, how come mom lets you have two guys in masks?

Prospera Mercury (Mobile Suit Gundam the Witch from Mercury, 2022): mom

*Mainline series, at time of writing

[mapleleaf-ysym]

Happy 100 days Anniversary of HanSei!

It was very fun! I started the series by liking Yushiro then I got stuck with those guys 😭�� Not complaining tho since I love them all! Their merchandises are just very expensive

I'm not very good with words so I cant say how much I love them and how much of an emotional support source they've been for me ｡⁠:ﾟ⁠(⁠;⁠´⁠∩⁠`⁠;⁠)ﾟ⁠:⁠｡ You just have to know I spend all my time waking up thinking about them lol

Credit art: No Be

[plushrats]

don’t think I’ve ever shared these here before sooo here’s some voice claims for a couple of my clones !! <3

[kaxtwenty]

The further I get into UC Gundam the more I need to beat Char with a lead pipe.

[slobozan-shitposting]

I hate when warhammer fans claim that tau battlesuits are inspired by gundam. No, they aren't!! It's clear that battlesuits are typical western mechas (scaled up exoskeleton armor) and not eastern mechas! They have more in common with power armor than with gundams.

Ironically enough, many people don't see the piece of tau lore that actually was inspire by Gundam - Farsight is a Char's clone! A red mecha, high speed as a main advantage in combat, good in melee, conflict with the official government, independence movement. Char, you may say, but no, I described commander Farsight.

[daydreamycrustacean]

[amplexadversary]

See, I was thinking he could just tap into your bloodstream. If he's hanging out in Rain's pocket we already know where he's getting the cells to convert from, and, well, why overcomplicate the system that's already there?

I may have just answered my own question by realizing that Rain would probably be turbo-weirded out by the more straightforward proposal.

[ferhog]

Dean Winchester back from hell after Suletta Mercury killed him or something. The only things I know about Supernatural come from the Sarah Z video. I just thought this would make for a funny visual.

[moriaarts]

CT-4T

I wanted to draw a bunch of trans clones for pride month and in true clone fashion they developed personalities and now they are a whole battalion and have backstory and shit

[mapleleaf-ysym]

Hantengu clones plush

Commissioned art by Khôngbiếtđặt Têngì

[farsight-the-char]

Meme found on reddit, I thought I would stack how 40k's resident Char Clone matched up.

I gave Farsight half-a-point for Freak status because, by his nature of Tau (and other factors), his sheer lack of "Freakness" makes him a Freak in the 40k setting.