#chainsaw man flamethrower

[xehathotbetterxehanot]

The Weapons are losers and that's awesome

After Chapters 139-44 of Chainsaw Man I think it's safe to say that I love that none of the Hybrids have their lives together or are cool. It's so realistic for immortality rather than vampire maturity or whatever.

Denji and Miri being just teenage boys, though Miri needs respecting women lessons, is perfect especially how they're captured persona wise. Reze's portrayal as a child soldier was also authentic since CSMs world is absolutely built of exploiting the vulnerable or leashed. I hope we see her more soon.

The older Hybrids are also their own brands of either immaturity, apathy, or psychopathy, which makes sense since they're fully grown adults and their brains and conscious behaviours are fully developed. Katana and Whip being over-the-top and unreasonably, and self-righteous/a supremacist respectively, Barem being just Makina but a psychopathic Clergy man, and Spear and Quanxi being mirrors of the apathetic nihilism (Quanxi being hedonistic and loving her Fiends, meanwhile I suspect that Spear probably prefers the freedom of loneliness and how it doesn't tie him down) causes are great overall representations of the bad what if persons getting the strongest power imaginable.

[bradsmindbrain]

Honestly, Barem Has Been Hella Sus Even Back in Part 1

Like, looking back at it, he came off as… odd, compared to the other Hybrids under Makima’s control.

In chapter 86 when the Hybrids first appear, they all compliment Makima or otherwise state their desire to have her or impress her. But here’s the thing.

A closer look shows that Barem doesn’t do this, he’s the only one to not make his admiration of her known, he just states that everyone else does. This seems like a small thing, but one of the most common forms of Makima’s influence is an unexplainable admiration and attraction towards her, with Aki and the other Hybrids being prime examples. So, I know what you’re thinking, “so you’re insinuating that Barem wasn’t under Makima’s control based on one line of dialogue?” Well, here’s the thing, this odd behavior is not a one-off occurrence.

In chapter 94, while the zombies and other Hybrids are fighting Pochita, Barem is hanging back with Makima and directly speaks to her, and she explains to him why Pochita is weaker. If he was under Makima’s control this conversation probably wouldn’t have happened, he’d be attacking with the rest of them, she wouldn’t explain it to him because as he’s under her control, she doesn’t need to explain anything. Now, it could be argued that he’s hanging back because he’s a ranged fighter, but Reze, Quanxi, and Spear Man all went in closer to attack, and they’re all primarily ranged fighters. And even if that was the reason, there would have been no reason to have this conversation with Makima.

To me, it seems that he was going along with Makima willingly, at least to the point where Makima felt she didn’t need to exert full control over him. I have the suspicion he’s going along with Fami as well, though he might not know the full scope of her plans given his suggestion to kill Asa when Fami’s entire plan hinges on her. I guess only time will tell if this theory holds any water.

[meowzanin33]

flamethrower

[voydcat]

So our least favorite heavy flamer says he isn’t sure if he’s still under Makima’s compulsion or if he’s just that devoted to her.

Well, I’ll tell you the answer straight away: it’s the latter.

Remember what Aki said back in Part 1? A Devil’s power, and everything affected by it, fades upon death. Makima is dead, so all of her slaves should be free. And we know this, because Quanxi is on our side now.

So Barem is just this loyal to a dead woman, still carrying on in the manner he thinks she’d want, because he was so enraptured by her and her vision for the world.

I still hate him, but you gotta (begrudgingly) respect the dedication.

[shysheeperz]

[skiplo-wave]

This bitch can’t even die without looks cunty wtf

[animehouse-moe]

Chainsaw Man Chapter 145: Kumbaya

Wow, a whole lot of questions have arisen from this chapter. Yoshida appears, Asa makes a move, the prophecy creeps ever forward as the Chainsaw Man church is captured. Fujimoto can make a lot happen in a chapter when they really want to.

So, Mr. Public Safety Devil Hunter here says two interesting things to open up this chapter. He talks about wanting War to mutually destroy Chainsaw Man, and he alludes to Chainsaw Man being God. Yeah, capital G there.

So, what do they mean? Clearly, Public Safety (through the Future Devil) became aware of the Nostradamus Prophecy a while back, and have understood that Denji has a key role to play in it. Fami corroborates this theory as she tries to weaken him.

And the second image. Well, that one's sort of obvious. Chainsaw is revered as a Devil unlike any other, the only ones we've not seen it conquer is the primal devils. Even then, he got pretty close with the Falling Devil.

Anyways, one of the big reveals of the chapter: the Justice Devil.

When you look at its design language, you see nothing of the fiendish appearances from previous instances of "justice devil" contracts. So what could be going on here?

There's a few ideas, but first its important to gather up the facts.

Firstly, the corpse of the Justice Devil was beneath the Chainsaw Man church. Secondly, Fami at the minimum had control of the Falling Devil. Third, the Justice Devil and Falling Devil appeared at sunset and the Falling Devil returned at sunrise. Fourth, the devil that has formed contracts with people throughout the story is claimed to not be the Justice Devil.

So, my first theory. The Justice Devil actually did form contracts with the individuals in question. However, these contracts weren't formed on Earth. Devils "forget" about Hell, but are a new iteration of themselves each time they appear on Earth. The "them" that exists in hell is the original, so what would happen if someone formed a contract with a devil in hell? It's not the most likely, as Fujimoto probably hasn't mislead readers with the identity of this Devil, but you never know.

The more likely theory though is that the Devil that formed a contract with these individuals under the guise of the Justice Devil, is the same one that gave Fakesaw Man his abilities. But what could it mean, is the real question. Does this unnamed Devil impart the abilities and nature of "Justice" onto individuals in how each person understands it? The class president and the Chainsaw Man church believer both sport at least a little similarity in design language with the idea of multiple heads, which makes sense given the selfish nature of each. Yuko's appearance though is largely different from theirs, which is once more understandable considering the difference in reasoning.

So, what could this devil that's been masquerading as Justice be? I think the one that comes to mind the quickest is "Desire", or something similar. The Devil requires the ability to fulfill the interests or needs of the individual, and to do so in a very direct way. Yeah, we've seen a lot of this "Justice" in Part 2, but we should remember that in part 1 almost all the devil contracts out there did not do anything to change the appearances of the individuals forming the contracts. The only example off the top of my head is the Zombie Devil.

But going further than that is the question of how Fami got this Devil on their side, and even further why she's playing so many angles at once. Betting on "both sides" she aims to kill Asa and Yoru, but also empower them through the Chainsaw Man church? There's a very long game going on here with Fami and the Nostradamus Prophecy, and I'm very very curious to see how it all ends up going down.

Anyways, here's another Asa door moment. Couldn't be a CSM protagonist without them.

Following this, two very big things happen. The first is the sun goes down. Drawing attention to this is signaling that another devil will appear. Whether it's a primal devil or not, or even potentially the revival of the Justice Devil I've no idea, but a threat looms on the horizon.

This idea begs the question of why the weapons were trying to create a massacre at the amusement park today though. It seems probable that their entire goal was to have a new devil appear come sunset (considering Barem's reaction), so it makes me wonder why they would try to do something so pointless.

The second though, is Asa's arm getting cut off. This is really big for two reasons. One, badass Yoshida in action looking like a young (and hot) Kishibe.

Secondly, and more importantly, it's the first time Asa's been severely injured since Yoru revived her. What are the mechanisms for regeneration and healing with Asa? How much can she heal, if it all? Is regeneration entirely on Yoru, does she have to be in control of the body to heal?

There's a lot of questions with this piece, because unlike all the other hybrids that have a "starter" for their transformation, Asa's is implicit. There's nothing that "kickstarts" her hybrid form, simply because she doesn't have one. Does that mean that she'd heal closer to how a Fiend might? That is, the act of transformation alone cannot regenerate or heal like it does for Denji?

I'm very very curious to see what happens here, because oddly enough this is a piece that can massively affect how we view exactly what Asa and Yoru are.

We're quickly barreling towards the date of July 18, 1999, the date of the last lunar eclipse of the 20th century, and with chapters like these we're piling on all sorts of curious odds and ends that will undoubtedly play a role in this impending night of terror. Really can't wait to see what Fujimoto does with it next.

[iamthe-walnut]

Fujimoto made the Flamethrower hybrid hot and for what?? No but fr, Barem's kind of a creep tho

[thetiredsam]

story time

[marleyanish]

new weapon: Barem Bridge Flamethrower

[xehathotbetterxehanot]

Chainsaw Man, Weapons Out of Context Pt. 2

The Hybrids are all standing at the cash register of a supermarket. Barem is on fire, Miri is covered in soot, and Spear is holding up the bisected torso of Barem in one hand.

Spear Man: And what do we say instead of trying to burn someone alive?

Barem: May I please get....you burnt alive?

Spear: NO. You cannot solve every problem by setting it on fire.

Whip: U Lit rly can.

Miri: Denji wouldn't approve of cannibalism

Barem: I say God would forgive me- *gets speared through the throat*

Spear: I am going to kill everyone here.

Miri: Can I be next?

Whip: Cool. '

Kobeni, trying to not have her 56th panic attack that day: Will t-t-t-t-that be cash or cre-cre-cr-credit?

Spear: Credit please and thank you. I hate violence.

[bradsmindbrain]

Whip being illiterate is not something I was expecting from this chapter.

[meowzanin33]

I want milk

[thebuginthecornerofyourroom]

So, Quanxi has killed the weapons in the lower floor, so now, if Kishibe is the one to save Denji and kill Flammenwerfer man, I will cheer and holler, but if it is Reze, I will c

[shysheeperz]

[skiplo-wave]

Barem is clever one and needs to be watch carefully

This moment here when he sees Asa is a touchy subject for Denji. The point Denji has to leave the situation. Next big battle is everyone and thing trying get under Denji’s skin and pulling the cord.

We’re gonna have trolley problem 2.0

Does Denji save Asa as chainsaw man which now get Nayuta killed? Or does Denji not pull cord which makes Asa a target?

I can see Fujimoto bringing the save cat/trolley problem again seeing he left elderly group and student die for a cat. But now two things Denji does care about is at risk. Barem gonna be a menace