#ch 1086

[kaizokuou-ni-naru]

the reveal that the five elder stars (五老星/gorousei) are named after the planets makes some sense in retrospect, because the japanese names for the planets also use the character 'star' (星/sei)! for instance, mars is called 火星/kasei, or 'fire star', venus is 金星/kinsei, or 'gold star,' and so on.

[the-frizzle-fry]

Looks like Shanks’ pappy is the leader of God’s Knights and was the king of God Valley. So Shanks being found in a treasure chest at God Valley is true. Roger saved baby Shanks. This opens up all new threads. Now I definitely think Shanks has a brother in God’s Knights. I already hate this guy as much as I hate Greenbull.

RIP to a good one. ✊

[ninhaoma-ya]

Chapter 1086 — The Five Elder Planets

What a great chapter to leave off on a break for! The theorizing will go wild…

First, Igaram's concern for Vivi is touching:

…while Pell and Chaka are looking out for their king, as the guardian deities of Arabasta should.

Something is in the air, if the faces of the other royals are anything to go by. They don't look like a happy bunch; rumours from the last leg of the Reverie?

Second, have I already said how much I love the WE HQ? It's a flying kettle! That shoots out News Coos!

I love it.

I wonder at what point Wapol caved and told Vivi what had happened to her dad. They said she'd been crying when they arrived at the WE HQ, so before current day events, but here he's still trying to deflect her questions. Maybe she figured it out from his denial? Maybe he just told her? Who knows (I want to know).

And then, totally unnecessary fandom speculation!

About a ship!

(Poor lil' Bonney. I'm sure being pint-sized helped her get aboard the ship easier, but it also underlines her quest: she is literally a child on her way to save her father.)

(By the way: in our universe, Tajine is a North African dish, also known as maraq or marqa.)

The drawing order and perspectives makes it look like Sabo is lying in the stem/front. Normally the sides mainly bulge outward from the keel, but here the planks curve distinctly up. However, when looking at traditional sailing ships, the shape doesn't work that way there:

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It can look like that in the aft:

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The other explanation might be an assistant's perspective mistake when drawing the bilge, or Lulusia's ship has a quite rare inward-bulging bow.

One of the few examples I found is the dhow, an Arabic ship:

(Link), although the 3D model can give a better view of the keel and curvature:

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So either Lulusia has a really, really cool royal ship, or there's some perspective shenanigans going on.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled analysis.

So.

…the floor is so horribly at odds with the rest of the room. Just sayin'.

Presenting: the SECOND tangent of the post.

During the 15th to 17th centuries, so covering reneissance, baroque and rococo, intricate decorations were the thing to have. The exact style and execution varied, of course, but you still were supposed to have so much detailing all over the place, both due to structural reasons (hiding those load-bearing columns and beams and servants and such) and style (look at all the money I have to put on this stuff).

Pangea Castle looks quite a bit like the Château de Chambord, so smack dab French reneissance architecture. Normally, you'd do parquet floors in the fancier parts of the castle, which means geometric and rectangular, like so:

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Of course, you could do circular, but then it'd probably be inspired by Roman mosaics, and thus geometric and repetitive, like so:

(Link 1, Link 2)

The floor in Pangea Castle is… just weird. I know there's probably art-related reasons for it (looks interesting, not as boring as a grid, etc), but the polka dot pattern really sticks out.

End of second tangent, s'il vous plaît.

Oda truly is a master storyteller.

The readers have been going bonkers for a few months now, trying to figure out what Devil Fruit powers Imu has based on the complete eradication of Lulusia. Is it star power? Is it nuclear? Is it pure light? Is it something completely different?

And then it turns out to be the One Piece-version of nuclear weapons, completing the parallells between Vegapunk and Einstein: both brilliant scientists who wanted to work for peace and the good of humanity, but whose insights were quickly weaponised.

It i also interesting to see how quick the Five Elders are to accept that Imu wants to eradicate a whole kingdom who is part of the World Government. I figure this might lead to more rebellion. After all, what is it worth to be a member of the WG if you're still not protected against horrible acts of violence? The only reason shown so far for people want to join the WG is based on pirates and the navy: they get protection and pay for the Celestial Dragons upkeep. I can't see this continuing much longer when the news about Lulusia get out – because at least Vegapunk will put two and two together. It was his invention being used, after all.

We have names!

Which might change when the official translation comes out!

But still. Interesting selections. Finance might comprise all financial activity, but why is then agriculture (food production) separate from environment (nature itself)? Mercantile activity is quite far from macroeconomic theories, which makes the lumping of all economic stuff under one heading quite interesting.

THERE IS A S-FLAMINGO!

My life is now complete.

I wonder why S-Croc looks so sad, though. S-Gecko and S-Flamingo looks like they're having the time of their lives, after all.

Also: what powers do they have? All the possibilities!

I wonder what Dragon is wondering about. He has a lot of ellipses this chapter and few words to spare. Does he agree with Sabo's decision to keep silent and live the lie? Does he disapprove? What does Iva-chan think about it all?

Ancient weapon, my old friend? The Arc Maxim 2.0? Something Completely Different?

(Also: traditional European-style ship depicted here as Lulucia's vessel. Yet the dream for a dhow still lives on!)

Jumping a bit, but Iva puts all our thoughts into words here so neatly:

In Egghead, Vegapunk says it's his dream to create the ultimate energy source. However, he doesn't say he's managed to do so yet: he's still working towards it. Therefore the thing Sabo saw probably wasn't an ancient weapon – or if it was, it wasn't at full power. Or then it was a "fire once and find another mother flame"-solution.

Whatever it was, it was horrible news for the people of Lulusia.

And then: the identity of Imu.

There's so many theories going on, tying Imu to the Roman emperor Nero or the city of Verona or the small coastal village of Nerano , also in Italy. From where we get to another Roman emperor, who is actually called Nerona: Tiberio Nerone, also known as Tiberius, an able politician who spent his last years on the island of Capri.

I'm sure we'll see where Oda draws his inspiration from sooner or later.

And the other big reveal of the chapter: the Figarland family.

(I don't think Oda will kill off Mjosgard. He is sentenced, he is not dead yet. Will the solution be banishment, a figurative death? We'll see, I'm sure.)

(I like the moon hair!)

(Edit: The cake line had me wheezing. Seriously. Scared the cat.)

I haven't seen Film Red yet, but as I gather from others, it's revealed that Shanks is a Figarland. He was also found on God Valley by Roger, so putting two and two together, we get a family connection.

However, what I'm interested in is the rankings of Celestial Dragons.

a) Saint Figarland Garling was a king

b) He is a Celestial Dragon

c) He has the power to be both judge, jury and probably executioner

How does it all fit together?

CDs are hitherto shown to just laze around in Mary Geoise and sometimes descend into the plebeian world for their own amusement. None of them is shown to be involved in the world as kings – that's the thing they specifically abdicated from 800 years ago. So why was Figarland a king? What was his role on God Valley – and what was God Valley?

So interesting! Much to think about.

I give the chapter thumbs up for lore drops and the chance for a well-deserved rest.

[larkreadsop]

I guess I’d never really thought about it before but Sabo does have a lot of connections to people with that initial between Ace, Luffy, Garp and Dragon…and now Cobra and by extension Vivi…he’s made himself an enemy of Blackbeard…he’s at least been in the same room as Law…yeah, that’s a lot of them.

[lovingalways37]

- One Piece Chapter 1086

Colour Spread by Oda Eiichiro

[kwnblack]

"(Not so) Dear Government, we're declaring war. I got fire and I'm not afraid to use it. xxx

Sabo"

[wifeofkatakuri]

Oh my God! I need to talk about 1086! Specifically the Figarland family.

The first time it’s mentioned is in Film Red, the 5 elder guys mention that Uta might be a part of the Figarland family. This on its own doesn’t mean anything, the movie isn’t canon and they might not even be talking about Shanks they know a bunch of secrets why wouldn’t they know who Uta’s birth family is? But after the introduction of Garling Figarland we can put a lot of pieces into place.

First it’s so bizarre to me that the Figarland family was hinted in a non canon movie and not once in the manga and the first confirmed member is the leader of God’s Knights!

Second it’s safe to assume that the 5 elder guys were talking about Shanks since she refers to herself as Shanks’ daughter and he calls her his daughter and he even can to rescue her.

We know that Roger and Rayleigh found Shanks in a box on God Valley and if Garling is Shanks’ father then it would make sense. It’s clear that he’s not a very nice person and I wouldn’t put it past him to put a child in a box in the middle of a war.

[bydxsign]

[itsarealdandy]

vivi fans we are SO back (she's so coming back to the straw hats plz plz plz u kno her ass isn't safe in alabasta)

[rrandomtthings]

One Piece is on a one month break after ch 1086 :( !!

[kaizokuou-ni-naru]

the way one of the five elders describes sabo here matches with the way law talked about the will of D back on onigashima, when he resolved to find out its meaning. they both use the phrase 数奇な運命/suuki-na unmei- unmei means 'fate/destiny' and suuki is an adjective meaning like 'checkered/eventful/dramatic/full of ups and downs' (or 'adverse/hapless', but i'm generally inclined to interpret it as the former in this use). law uses it for himself ('i want to find the meaning of this checkered destiny of mine') and the elder star uses it to describe sabo ('he seems to bear a checkered destiny').

[the-frizzle-fry]

Me reading chapter 1086

Planets!?

Figgy Moonhead???? Redhead?

Imu saying capture Vivi

New weapons, ancient weapons mother flame? Another mention of something pitch black.

Sabo, Wapol, Vivi n the slaves

Hell of a chapter to leave off on Oda.

[ninhaoma-ya]

my guess is that seraphim doffy and seraphim moria have their usual powers (like the boa and kuma seraphims) but croc has something different, since i think vegapunk said he couldn't synthesize logias?

Good catch! You’re probably right about that — I’m just very bad at differentiating between logias and the weirder paramythias so can’t ever figure out if for example the yami yami no mi is a logia or not without checking the wiki

[larkreadsop]

This is such a cute colorspread… I have no idea where Zoro and Jinbe are but the rest of them all look really good

[tae-rambles]

i noticed something while rereading Sabo's flashback of the Reverie

(spoilers up to ch 1115 under cut)

ch 1086 - the Elders and Imu discuss putting the Mother Flame to the test on Lulusia

this is what Nusjuro and Peter had to say about it:

doesn't it sound familiar?

ch 1115 - Vegapunk's message

We've already been told that the war's still ongoing ~30 chapters before Vegapunk said it but we didn't notice! (or just forgot about it)

[sashi-ya]

𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐬 𝐚𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐂𝐡. 𝟏𝟎𝟖𝟔

So, apparently, there will be a break of 4 weeks starting after the publication of ch. 1086! Come on Oda, if you make my theory to be accurate about Shanks I will forgive you leaving us with no manga for a month! (jk please, dear Oda if this break is about taking care of your health I am very happy to wait as much as you need 💖)