#celebs couples don't have the same appeal as they used to

[alarrytale]

I don't understand when people say a celebrity is in the closet because they want privacy, it feels like just an excuse to defend closets. Celebrities can be out and still have a private life. Look at out celebrities. Most of them you don't see with partners. They are maintaining a private life just fine. Straight couples need privacy too. Privacy is not tied to the closet. All Tzp has to do is make an IG post and say he is married to a man and would love if fans give them privacy. That's it. People would respect it and leave him alone. The reason people are digging so much and speculating is because they know he isn't being transparent. Privacy is definitely not the reason celebrities are in the closet. It's more to do with their career and image.

Two different views on tzp and privacy. More under the cut

I'm the anon who sent the ask about TZP trying to be private for his mental health. I think we have different definitions of what privacy means. He's living and interacting fully out in the open. That doesn't mean he can't be private at the same time.

Most people seem to think that whatever a famous person does in public is eligible for questioning. People defend invasiveness by saying "if they didn't want us to know or ask, they should have done a better job hiding." But the whole point of queer empowerment is that queer people should get to live openly and freely without invasive questions, both from cishets and others in the queer community.

Privacy includes being able to decline answering topics we don't want to discuss, and liberation includes the freedom to decide what those topics are. It shouldn't be that the only two options for queer celebs is to either hide every aspect of their queerness or share every aspect of their queerness.

As queer people and allys, we need to evolve as a community and help create a third option for everyone who spends any amount of time in the public eye, which is - they get to decide what they share and don't share, and of the things they've shared, what questions they will and won't answer. That's what privacy should be. We all just need to accept that.

Hi, the both of you!

Privacy is not an easy topic. We might have different definitions of privacy.

I think when you choose to expose yourself in order to get attention on your person, to promote yourself and get the most amount of eyes on you to become famous and a celebrity, you can’t at the same time expect full privacy around your person. You are opening yourself up to both scrutiny and adoration. You can’t pick and choose what people should pay attention to or not about you. You can try to only expose what you are willing to share, but i don't think it's very realistic to expect that people won't be interested in your romantic and private life when you are inviting them to project their romantic and sexual fantasies upon them. It's just how things are. Celebrities are fully aware of this, and if there are sides of themselves they are not willing to share with the public, they take steps to ensure privacy. I agree with the first anon, that privacy and closeting isn't tied together. Straight celebrities needs privacy too. I also agree that fans get more intrusive when they know celebrities are not being transparent and are hiding something. People don't want to support, project onto or give their money to people who might not be who they say or presents themselves as.

I also get the feeling that mental health isn't the reason tzp isn't being forthcoming with his sexuality and marriage. Can you be more specific on what you mean by mental health and why you feel like that? Beacause i see a very confident man who is proud of who he is, his husband and family, who willingly shares his daily life on social media, including his husband, but tries somewhat to hide his sexuality and marriage to the public because he wants to appeal to everyone to gain more widespread fame.

[masterthespianduchovny]

David and Gillian: The Non-Romance for the Ages

One thing that I can’t shake about the media focus on David and Gillian receives is that it almost exclusively is reserved for actual (former) couples.

Like, why is the media focused on a couple that never was?

It’s not like David and Gillian’s situation was unique: co-stars with great chemistry who the media/people would like to see together. Plenty of shows and movies have co-stars like that. Hell, some co-stars have actually ended up together (and some have not), yet for two people out of their career primes and vocally denied ever being involved and stated it’ll never happen, the media refuses to leave this idea alone.

And if you follow popular culture and celebrity news, this is highly unusual. The media loves actors in their primes or on popular shows/in popular franchises. They love hot, young people. They love established box office sellers. They love a scandal. They love couples they drives gossip and clicks, which IMHO, outside of attractiveness, David and Gillian don’t fit that criteria.

Yet, this question about them (not) being romantically involved always comes up. Maybe not in every interview, every year, but it’s a question that doesn’t die. It’s fascination that hasn’t ended.

Which makes me think of the evergreen appeal Gillovny has for many people, which isn’t common.

What I mean by this is that there are certain couples, whether or not if they stayed together, that the media and society will always be obsessed with. It is something about them that we can’t get enough of. Most celebrities couples do not fit this criteria.

Take for instance, Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart. Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton. Yoko Ono and John Lennon. Even now, even when most of them are dead, there is still a fascination about their relationships. A “modern” day example is Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston (which earned this status due to many reasons, but they were a big thing before their divorce).

Despite never being together or even being rumored together, meaning rumors that consumed the media, they are in a limbo of sorts. As long as these two are alive, these questions will always plague them. People will be curious no matter how much they deny ever being involved. I think, unlike the others, it will fade when they pass away because we can’t follow a relationship that didn’t exist.

But, I just think about that no matter who they were with and no matter how long they were with them, none of their relationships have ever captured peoples attention as much as their non existence romance. And that's crazy as fuck. No relationship can compare to one that never happened--that’s the one many are invested in.

I think about Angelina Jolie in her prime (and before Brad) and how people were so obsessed with her and Billy Bob Thornton. That hardly anyone ever talks about them--this was a huge relationship almost 20 years ago. Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughn--a huge thing around 15 years ago.

I think about all of the big relationships now that largely have intrigue for clicks and because they're popular right now, but there aren’t many couples that truly enrapture fans.

Yet, this couple that never was does.

I honestly believe that if they had got involved during the height of the X-Files’ popularity (and public), they would’ve been a huge fucking deal. They would’ve been an IT couple (of sorts). The media was begging for that shit--fans were begging for it. If they had stayed together in this hypothetical, they’d be one of those couples, even if they’re very low key, that people would’ve been super obsessed with and salivating for content. And they would've definitely given some bomb ass answers when asked about each other.

Now, in this hypothetical, if they broke up, it would’ve been an equally big deal. The media and fans wouldn’t have ever got over this chaotic couple because they would've been chaotic in the best way possible.

I’m not arguing that no other non couple receives this type of attention, I’m saying it’s actually pretty uncommon, especially for it to have gone on as long as it has.

Compare this to Kate and Leo, who the media and fans actively rooted for. I rarely hear people talk about still wishing that they’d get together. Despite no one believing they’d ever crossed that line sexually or romantically, it was a thing for a time to publicly root for them to get together. And it kinda just died off. Where as the fascination with David and Gillian pre-existed Kate and Leo and still existed well after the media dropped the other two.

[alrightsnaps]

I’m not Scared yet, but there’s not a bigger (joint) cover to be had than Entertainment Weekly tbh...yeah they might get a Variety or Hollywood Reporter cover but those are weekly and not as big of an impact. I mean, some of EW’s covers have been iconic (think Twlight). Simone & Jonathan might/will probably get solo magazine covers, but it was a massive missed opportunity to not have them in costume and to introduce the new S2 couple. A joint photoshoot feature in Vanity Fair or Vogue or whatever doesn’t have the same impact as a monthly *cover*.

Instead, they’re focusing on the supporting characters, because, in my opinion, they’re too cowardly to go full-throat and promote the show as a Romance. They’re using it being an ensemble show as a crutch, basically. Which is stupid because Kate and Anthony are the best couple and Simone and Jonathan are very appealing/marketable.

Oooh thanks for the info cause I'm pretty illiterate when it comes to magazines/celeb promo so I assumed it was just a cover and they were saving the leads for something bigger, and I now miss that blissful ignorance 😭😭😭

I don't remember if they gave Regé and Phoebe a similar photoshoot, the only thing I found was the Vogue photos of them and the Netflix promo when the show came out. But I also didn't find any EW Bridgerton material from s01 at all, so if they managed to get a shot at it this time, Jonathan and Simone should have been the obvious choices! Plus, the romance angle really worked with Simon and Daphne, so the production backtracking and trying to sell s02 as an ensamble show is stupid as well as cowardly. Even if that's the case, couldn't they at least have Simone with the rest of the female characters in the EW cover?? Seriously??

At least Charithra makes sense as a choice since her character is important this season so I could see EW focusing on her and Simone as the younger female additions. But Claudia and Nicola? Also, am I the only one seeing an effort to center Nicola a bit too much, when her story is two seasons away? I guess it could be because she's more popular as an actress, I just hope it's not because the Whistledown reveal will lead to some big #girlboss narrative over seasons 2 and 3.

Anyway, my point is: the leading couple are Simone and Jonathan. I want to see that reflected in the show's promo instead of some half-hearted approach that focuses on secondary characters from two and three seasons down the road. You can't sleep on your leading actors and their story and then complain about the romance angle not selling, when you're throwing leads and their story under the bus. Do they really expect the mainstream audience to get hyped about a bunch of supporting characters as the faces of the show???

[mikami]

Do you think matt x misa would make a good couple? I know youre not into the wammy side of death note but still.

This used to be my ship... like 12 years ago. Help, what is time...

Though by now, I don't think they would work out. Matt does think Misa is cute and probably would like having a girlfriend like her, but they don't really have anything in common to talk about?

Like let's be real, Misa thinks video games are kinda cringe and she takes one look at Matt's messy room and goes "eeewww" - there's just nothing about Matt that would actually appeal to her, haha.

And in the same vein, I think Matt would be rather fed up with her priorities and interests pretty quickly as well. A goth celeb girlfriend is more appealing on paper than in practice for a guy like him.

[bisluthq]

spade-riddles*tumblr*com/post/652282111107170304/back-in-december-taylor-and-karlie-used-to-post#notes -- I had been working really hard on detoxing from Kaylor and your blog has been a big help but a post like this sucks me right back in... the odds that 2 people who rarely post on instagram post 22 minutes apart 4 times in a couple of months is like... highly unlikely I don't know what to tell you, I don't know how to convince myself that this is a coincidence

So what you need to realize is Social Media is a numbers thing, like especially on the level of multi million follower blue tick accounts. You can go talk to @kaylortruther about this more because she works in digital marketing and she'll be able to explain a lot more but essentially when we get to this level of fame/reach/engagement we're not dealing with "huh it'd be nice to share a pic" - these things are rolled out by a professional team, which uses quantitative analysis to put together a plan. They'll look at times users are most active, times those geo-locations get searched, spikes in searches for the celeb, and like... tons more things, right, it's a whole ass quantitative (and fairly boring oop) job.

Karlie DOES have a lot of Taylor related fans, and if they're looking at particular times of day/week/month their strategies are often going to sync up not because it's a coincidence and not because they're together but because it's not just Kaylors or Swifties who still like her, right it's a lot of English-speaking millennial women who might find both celebs appealing in different ways. So yeah their social media strategy WILL align. And that's also why you'd have them wearing similar styles and shit because they're both trendy (well sometimes) women of the same demographic catering to a similar demographic too.

Thinking about it as numbers - which is almost certainly what it is because again you don't have multi million followed accounts willy nilly posting off of the person's phone when they sorta feel up to it - makes far more sense than "Taylor and Karlie are syncing their posts up by 22 minutes to send a KLUE" like no they're just trying to sell their respective shit and go off girls get that paper.

[hoochy-coo]

But this whole relatability schtick is a facade and an illusion. A celebrity and a regular person can never be the same, the socioeconomic difference plays a huge part. I don't know why people can't acknowledge that anymore. I would never look for likeness or sameness to live vicariously through someone that will never walk in my shoes for a single day, and probably would never want to.

Even regular people, who either came from struggle or were relatively average, who suddenly rose into fame, they slowly lose that " relatable " air about them, and youtubers are the first example for this, the reason youtubers are so popular is because the whole idea of it, being a regular person who goes to college/highschool/ or has a run of the mill 9 to 5 job, creating youtube videos that are entertaining or about things they like is so appealing towards the consumer, because you it feels REAL. It feels like a nice next door neighbor, or an eccentric classmate that you like.

But then like everything in life, when the youtuber rises up to fame and starts getting all these brand deals, starts living this lavish lifestyle, they normally change! And that OKAY! Just imagine you are young and you've never had shit and now your literally living in LA and the bank account is stacked, hell I would change 180 degree too, anyone would! My point is, even those celebs/influencers that may have been like you at some point, when they rise to fame, they are not like you anymore and it doesn't matter how hard they try, it's the reality of it.

We should stop expecting humans to be anything less and other than humans. You will save yourself so much heartbreak if you just don't try to force relatbility where is none okay? So stop commenting on your favorite youtubers comments like " SINCE YOU MOVED TO LA YOU CHANGED! " SINCE YOU GOT 6 MILLION FOLLOWERS YOU CHANGED ! " of course they changed, it would be abnormal for them not to change!

And stop applauding these celebrities for doing " normal people " things, like, it's some sort of achievement for them " omg they eat from macdonalds " " omg they wore 5 dollar shirt, soooo humble ". They're still living in their gated community in beverly hills, and that's it.

Please don’t think I disagree with you guys that celebs dressing down is fake and boring, because I completely agree! I just understand why they do it from a marketing perspective, that’s all! Social media has truly blurred the lines for GP, and now agents/teams feel like they have no choice but to promote the celebs in a way that is public-friendly. 

I think this whole shtick of appearing ‘relatable’ and ‘normal’ is especially big with the younger demographic so it’s the celebs that have a big teenage fanbase that are laying it on thick. Imo the core issue is that we’re getting more and more celebs who have a very limited set of skills but have a strong pull with the public due to their “vibe” or social media presence. For example, SelGo’s career is largely reliant on her fanbase. No hate or shade but she’s mediocre at everything, so whenever she releases a project, she and her team are depending on her fans to go support it instead of banking on said project to pick up steam with the GP. If anything, I think she’s the most well-marketed star to come out of that lineup of Disney child stars. She’s teen/kid-friendly but she media plays just enough to make headlines with the older crowd as well. Celebs like that probably feel the need to present as relatable to an extent because if their teen fans don’t feel like they can ‘click’ with them, then they’ll lose interest and ditch them for a newer, younger star popping up every couple of months. That’s probably why industry juggernauts like Bey and Rih don’t give a fuck about appearing regular. Like sure, they’ll eat McDonalds and have a bad hair day once in a while but they don’t go out of their way to show that to us. They know their relevancy doesn’t hinge on fan support because the public is behind them. 

In terms of Youtubers/influencers, I think that’s a bit different. With celebs, we see them come up as a part of the Hollywood machine - they’re managed, they’ve got a team, they’re media-trained, etc. We know on a subconscious level that they’re ‘packaged’ but with influencers, they pull in an audience by being the more approachable/relatable sector of fame. People consume Youtube in an entirely different than they do Hollywood. They’re supposed to give us two different things but now, all these influencers are pushing to integrate into the industry like they are too, Hollywood. So if people started following an influencer because they feel like they could empathize with them in some way, and they lose that as they start to grow then I think it makes sense that people would lose interest. I do agree that it’s natural for these people to change after some success and money and that people should stop commenting under their content like they’re shocked by that. With that being said, if you can no longer connect with them or any level then what’s the point? Unless you were watching purely for the content, there are a hundred other influencers who are pumping out the same type of videos as they are. The market is oversaturated and as viewers, you can basically have your pick of who you’d watch next after you’re ‘over’ a certain influencer because they’ve ‘changed.’ With celebs (the successful ones I mean), at least they’ve developed a distinct selling point that you can’t find with anyone else so people stick around because they may feel like they won’t get that with other celebs.

[lesbian-ed]

🌸Hi, a few years ago when I was 16 (19 now)I was forced out to my friends by this homophobic girl, and I came out as bi (still in the closet to my family), I'm no longer friends with any of them, but I can't figure out what label I should have, I really want to just know who I am. I said to them I was bi, but I've never felt right with that label. I read about comp het and it makes so much sense to me, but I still don't know. 1/5

🌸I feel, like, attracted to male celebs, but only when they’re in films or tv, and watching interviews of them ruins it?, and whenever I’m around guys I get these thoughts I can’t control about kissing them and sleeping with them and I feel rlly self conscious, I said this to a friend who said it’s a crush, but I get it with people I don’t like at all 2/?

🌸 And sometimes I have a phase where I feel like I could date a guy and marry him and have kids and be happy but it feels like I’m imagining a perfect version of me that actually im not like at all? And as well I can only imagine myself with a young guy, once I think about a 30 yr old or older I don’t want it anymore, but the perfect fantasy seems so appealing idk 3/?

🌸I feel different about girls but I don’t know I’m catholic and I feel like it’s always been other people are gay and that’s ok but not me? And I don’t know whether I feel no attraction to girls or I’m pushing it down bc when I see girls kiss on tv I literally have started crying and I saw a lesbian couple in public once and I got butterflies and also Ive found myself changing pronouns in songs in my head without realising but I’ve never had close to a crush on anyone especially not a girl 4/5

🌸Ive never even met a gay girl except for one pan girl at school but she was really weird and rude so I don’t know what it’s supposed to be like to like someone? writing this all down it makes it sound like I’m definitely a lesbian but that scares me so much bc ill never have a normal life and I can’t shake this feeling that actually I do want to be with a guy but I’m trying to be interesting or I’m faking this or something. Pls tell me your thoughts on this 5/5

Oh, anon. This literally all feels as if my younger self came into my ask box just now to ask for advice. 

I understand your pain, I really do, I went through so many of the same thought processes you’re describing now. It’s good that you’re aware of compulsory heterosexuality, since I believe that will make sorting your feelings easier. Still, I recommend you look through our tag (if you haven’t already) to read more thoughts on this. It’ll help. 

I obviously can’t tell you what your sexuality is for you, that’s your own journey to make, but this sounds so much like my own experience that I’m pretty sure what the answer is already.

Anon, let me tell you a story, I went to a catholic school and while my parents are pretty liberal and not that religious (in fact, my dad’s an atheist) I was also raised with the idea that ok, there were gay people out there, and I didn’t care what other people did with their lives! But honestly that was kind of weird and I couldn’t be like them, because they weren’t normal, like I should be. I was bullied a lot as a kid, because I was weird and ugly and way too shy and easy to pick on, so I grew up with this idea that whatever else happened, I had to stop being like that, I had to be beautiful and normal and acceptable. And that of course included a perfect fantasy of marrying the man of my dreams after he fell in love with men when I suddenly grew up to be the most beautiful woman there was, and having kids, and holding down a successful job that I was happy doing and having lots of money and well, just having the most perfect life. How could I not want that? Ever since I was old enough to walk, society fed me the idea that this was my ideal endgame, how could we ALL not dream about that at some point? 

I used to be obsessed with those stories where the “ugly” girl suddenly turns beautiful and the Nice Perfect Popular Boy finally notices her and they get together, those stories were my dream life. As a kid and young teen I’d fantasize about them constantly, I’d make up characters that would always end up fulfilling those same tropes. It was the way to prove to all those who ever called me ugly or belittled me because I was nerdy that “see? I got the happy ending” so when I was twelve, and suddenly all the girls were having crushes on boys I felt nothing for, while I started noticing seemingly out of the blue just how incredibly beautiful so many girls my age and older were, I got veeery scared. I couldn’t like girls like that, I wasn’t like that, I was already weird and had no friends, so how could I ever hope to find a girl who liked girls who’d like me? And if I did, everyone already hated me, so how would I bear it? The stares and the insults and the danger we’d face if people saw us together on the street? So I pushed that attraction down as far as I could, I convinced myself I was actually just too inmature to start thinking about crushes and all that stuff, and obviously when I was mature enough and the time came, I’d like boys, because that’s what Normal Girls did right? And I had to be normal.

In my school’s equivalent of US’ eighth grade, a new boy came to our class, he was pretty, and friendly, and most importantly, blonde! and he was the school sports star! It felt like every movie-like fantasy I ever had come to life. Every girl was in love with him, so one time I had a dream where we were dating. I woke up being absolutely ecstatic, that must have meant I had a crush right? I liked a boy? I was definitely straight?

I never actually began feeling nervous around this boy, or looking at him any more than usual until I had this dream and decided that meant I was in love. I told a friend eventually because I was excited about being in love and the fantasy I had created for myself about our perfect relationship (which did involve us kissing and having sex, and I never actually felt turned on about it but I did imagine it a lot because it meant we were In Love, so those fantasies happen even if you don’t actually like like the person in question, dw!), and isn’t that what you do when you like someone? Gossip about it with your friends? She told some of my bullies and the dude found out, so he started laughing at me in the middle of the class and calling me ugly and saying he was traumatized at the mere idea of me liking him. 

And I… felt nothing. I was angry of course, and sad, but it was just the same anger and sadness I felt when some random I didn’t like made fun of me, it wasn’t even like what I felt when former friends said nasty stuff about me. And I wanted to be heartbroken I wanted to wallow in the misery and the drama of it, but I just wasn’t, it was the same “well this shit sucks and I’m angry about it but it happens everyday so wyd?” There was no deeper feeling there, not even any special resentment, there was nothing. I never felt anything ever again when I looked at this boy.

Now, sometime later, the same boy starts dating a girl from our class, and it was around the same time that I was coming to terms with the fact that the latent attraction I had started to feel for women when I was younger had never actually gone away but rather had grown. Things were purely about sexual attraction for me at that point, not romantic feelings. I hadn’t actually been in love with a girl either by that point. Because even tho I was accepting my sexual attraction to women, I still had the idea in my mind that ideally I would end up with a boy, because when so much of my hopes for the future relied of me being beautiful and a man falling in love with me forever and ever so that I could have a normal future, letting go of that dream took a while. I called myself bisexual for a while, only to realize very little later that it didn’t actually fit me. When I did, it was hard, because I had to re-come out again to my mom and the two friends I had told, and that really scared me, because I felt like some fake, like what I felt was not actually real. I put it off, and my friends & mom were accepting but they also were like “you’re just confused about your sexuality!!/this is just a phase!!” so that fed into my insecurities. Even when I realized I was sexually into women only, I still hadn’t fallen in love with one, so that made things more confusing for me (I hadn’t fallen for any boy other than the one I mentioned earlier and one I met on a vacation that thought I liked for like a week because he had a pretty voice and was pretty androgynous lmao, but again, no heartbreak when he went away)

Eventually, (funnily enough through fandoms and f/f ships and fics that depicted them in loving relationships, And I cried when I read about girls kissing too, at first I thought it was because I was a Good Straight Ally, but I was just a lesbian lmao) I realized that I could also be happy in a relationship with a woman, that it was not only a possible future for me, but one that I wanted, one that felt right, one in which I wouldn’t be the beautiful, perfect, feminine, smart, succesful career woman I had dreamed of as a kid, but in which I’d be me, with all my quirks and faults, with another woman with her own quirks and faults who’d love me for who I am, because that was possible! It was possible to be happy like that!. When I realized this, that me liking girls romantically and sexually, and exclusively girls was okay, it felt like a veil was lifted from my eyes. Suddenly, all the feelings and attraction I had thought I had felt for boys paled in comparison to the intensity of what I felt for women, I learned what actual sexual desire was like, I yearned for a future with a real me in it with a real woman by my side, instead of the fake ideal I’d wanted to be when I was younger. It was around that time I fell in love for the first time.

Remember how I mentioned the boy I used to “like” got a girlfriend? Well, guess who I fell for? Me and her were assigned seats together one year in high school, and I got to know her through the first term, every time liking her more and more, until one day, she just walks into class, and I think she did something different with her hair? Whatever it was, seeing her felt like someone punching the breath out of me, it felt like watching literal perfection embodied. And I was gone, I was just so so sooo gone. I felt sparks when we sat next to each other, I couldn’t stop smiling like a fool whenever I looked at her, she’d say something nice to me and it felt like my soul was flying out of my body. And of course it was idealized, it was a crush on a girl I didn’t know that well, but the feelings I had, I had for her, for her actual personality, her actual sweetness, her actual kindness, even her actual rashness sometimes, not the fantasy I had made up of her that I projected onto her like I did when I “liked” her boyfriend. I liked her as a person. Plus the intensity of both crushes was just so fucking different. When I liked her, I cried when we were apart and at the thought of her with her dumbass idiot boyfriend, I listened to a love song and could relate to it for the first time. I understood finally why people would write poetry and songs and do all sorts of crazy things for this feeling. 

Tldr: I also fantasized about the ideal boy and I was never able to allow myself to feel anything for a girl because of how much I had repressed my sexuality due to fear of backlash until I was able to recognize that yes, liking women was OK and then all my repressed feelings came pouring out like a tsunami. 

If that sounds like something you can kind of relate to, then that’s your answer anon. However, it might not be, or maybe you don’t know if it is yet. That’s alright! Sexuality can be complicated and it can take a long time to figure it out. You’re not on a deadline here, you don’t have to stress about it.

As for the normal part, yeah being a lesbian in this society sucks a lot. And I still get terrified of the idea that I will not be “normal” and that I can never be happy. Even if I know deep in my heart that I can never be happy with a man, sometimes I wonder if it’d be worth it to spare me the pain. The answer? Hell no, I’ve got one life, one, what’s the point of wasting it on loveless unfulfilled relationships when I could try to go for someone I’ll actually be happy with? There’ll be pain, of course there will be, I live in a small town and I’ve only just started meeting other lesbians & bi girls offline this year because I’ve gone to university, and I’ve only ever actually started talking to and becoming actual friends with the ones I knew online this year too because I was so terrified before! All of them tell me about their hurt, and how lesbophobia affects them a lot, and yet I see them talking about how much they love their girlfriends/wives (I don’t have that because I’m an awkward potato but I’m trying) and also other lesbians, and it gives me hope, because I can be just like them, finding genuine happiness amidst the pain.

I hope this answer helps you. 

Mod M :D