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[what-even-is-thiss]

CEFR Language learning levels

A1: can go grocery shopping probably maybe sort of

A2: can have very simple conversations with patient people

B1: can conversation usually mostly normally

B2: can talk about most things and possibly even argue

C1: sort of like a native speaker at this point-ish

C2: you went to college and possibly even paid attention

[hungwy]

JLPT N3 is comparable to CEFR B1; JLPT N2 is equivalent to CEFR B2, and JLPT N1 basically requires the same skills as CEFR C1. but consider the fact that to get to JLPT N1, the highest level of fluency for the most popular Japanese proficiency test, you need, on average, starting from no knowledge of Japanese at all (including kanji), 3000–4800 hours. to get to CEFR C2 in German, that being the highest level of the most popular framework for measuring European-language proficiency, you should study around 750 hours, maybe more. mind you this is measured with monolingual native English speaker -> target language perspectives in mind, but still, like, what the hell man. look at the requirements:

CEFR C2 (750-900 hours in German): "[understanding] with ease virtually everything heard or read … [and expressing oneself] spontaneously, very fluently and precisely, differentiating finer shades of meaning even in the most complex situations."

JLPT N1 (3000-4800 hours): "able to read [various and profound] writings with [logical/abstract] complexity … [and] comprehend orally presented materials [in a wide variety of settings] … spoken at natural speed … [and] also able to understand the details … such as the relationships among the people involved, the logical structures, and the essential points."

if you study German well for 3 hours a day, every day, nonstop, until you hit the 750 hours of study for CEFR C2, you're more than fluent in 250 days. okay, the US State Department says you need 900 hours, so the time it takes to become fluent changes to... oh... 300 days.

if you study Japanese well for 3 hours a day, every day, nonstop, until you hit the 3000 hours of study for JLPT N1, you're more-or-less fluent (not even definitively!) in 2.7 years. for 4800 hours it takes 4.3 years.

and studying 3 hours a day every day is basically unreasonable for most people! not to mention "real language heads" study for 10 hours a day. a regular person would probably do about an hour or two a day, right? and probably have weekends where studying doesn't happen. so let's say 2 hours a day, monday-friday; 10 hours a week. with 52.14 weeks in a year, you get about 521.4 hours of studying in per year.

with this regimen you achieve considerable German fluency in about a year and a half of study, and are probably on the same level as university students. the same habits will get you high-school-level Japanese fluency in 8 years.

now obviously all this assumes a lot: consistent learning ability, consistently paced lessons, not skipping any days, not forgetting anything, etc etc etc. but i think these numbers more or less hold

[silivrenmiriel]

More info and level descriptions under the "Common reference levels" dropdown:

Please consider reblogging for sample size!

[plumec0rbeau]

Bonjour!

ça va?

(also how do you figure out your cefr level)

Coucou! Ça va bien! Et toi?

(I’d suggest looking it up on Google. A1 is like really beginner and stuff. A2 is like you can have basic conversations. Idk what anything past that is but C1/C2 is fluent)

[totally-sapphic-posts]

Do you have any tips on language learning? I'm currently learning french and spanish by myself, (only know english and portuguese) and find the letter so hard even if it's so close to my mother tongue

Yes! So, it’s really important, if fluency is your goal, to hear/see the language at least once a day. Follow a page in the language (not a language learning one) and read the posts, read the comments. For speaking, you can listen to podcasts. Even if you can’t catch all the words yet, listen to basic/learning podcasts. To start off, listen to A1 or A2 level podcasts. Or watch YouTube videos.

The first time you listen, you’ll probably only understand a few words here and there. That’s okay, don’t be discouraged.

If you’re using duolingo to learn, try download a grammar book for the language, and anytime you get confused, check the book.

If you’re learning from a book, I really liked Duo for vocabulary and just hearing the language being spoken. Duo starts off with the audios being quite slow, so you can build up to the speed native people speak.

Using the CEFR levels, there’s A1/A2 (beginner), B1/B2 (intermediate), C1 (advanced, fairly fluent), C2 (native level fluent).

Once you’re at B1/B2 start watching tv shows in your target language, maybe reading your favourite book in that language (if it’s available), watch videos that aren’t focused on teaching the language. And if possible, make a friend who speaks the language (preferably native).

[thethirdromana]

Because I've seen a few polls going round about how many languages people speak:

Options borrowed from the description of CEFR levels here.

I'm curious to know how this relates to where people are from and the languages that they speak, so do share that in the tags if you'd like.

[mehilaiselokuva]

Okay, I need this info to make relevant content for you guys! You can answer even if you don't follow me or anything (why aren't you following me yet🤨) , as long as your native language isn't Finnish!

[salvadorbonaparte]

hey what are those letter-number combinations next to the languages in your profile?

i gather that they're proficiency levels or evaluations of some sort but i've never learned what they are or mean, and I don't even know what they're called

Hey thanks for reaching out!

These are part of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (CEFR).

The levels go from beginner over intermediate to proficient in the steps A1, A2, B1, B2, C1, C2.

Sometimes you will also see people add a plus to indicate they're on a threshold between levels (e.g. A2+ being someone between high beginner and low intermediate).

Sometimes you also see A0 to indicate a language someone doesn't speak or just started learning, i.e. a language where they're working towards A1. Honestly, it's not always entirely clear if someone means they already reached a certain level or they're working towards one.

For language courses I've also occasionally seen things like A1.2 or B2.3 to indicate that their courses are split into different units for each level.

If you Google the CEFR you can find some slightly different definitions and milestones for each level.

I hope this was helpful!

[morgenlich]

can i ask what resources you used for info on moving to europe? its something im considering and i have been doing research myself, but a lot of good advice was on reddit and im not really sure if reddit is still usable.

well, first i'll say that most of reddit is still usable to me so don't lose hope on that front!

there's not a lot of advice i can give in general, only wrt moving to germany because that's where i'm going specifically so i've been doing So Much reading the past few months from official govt sites more than anything else--tho regardless of what country you want to move to, govt sites with info on immigration are a good starting point.

tldr, more details under the cut:

-you're gonna need housing and health insurance

-you're gonna need to look into visas/residency permits (visas are for entry into the country, if you're from the US or Canada you probably won't need one) and their specific requirements

-ur nearest consulate is going to be a good source of info and point of contact

the first things, imo, that you need to know are:

1 do you need a visa to get in (if so, what kind, what are the requirements, etc)

2 steps for establishing a residency permit once you're there

and getting all your ducks in a row on those fronts (often the visa and residency permit will have the same requirements as each other from what i've noticed, though as a US citizen i haven't paid much attention because i don't require a visa to enter the vast majority of european countries). this is all info that will be available on official websites, including consulate/embassy sites. it may be helpful to start out looking for info on the site of the relevant consulate website, they will often include links to further resources, or just shoot them an email with questions you have if you can't find answers there.

but important questions for these:

-is there a language requirement? for example, in germany, to be able to work you need to be at a B1 level of german on the CEFR scale. C1 is required for university admissions. etc.

--is there a possibility of a language learner's visa/permit if you're not at that level? what are the requirements for that? (again with germany as an example: you will not be allowed to have a job while you have this residency permit and therefore must prove to the govt that you can financially support yourself for a year through a locked bank account with a minimum of around 11k euro in it).

-what additional documentation is required, besides just your passport? how do you acquire it?

--you will probably have to get passport photos taken again after you've moved because (i'm assuming anon is from the US but i'm sure this applies to other countries too) required biometric photo sizes vary by country and you will almost certainly need one for any residency permit or other documentation.

the other important thing will be securing housing, which gets to be a massive fucking pain when you live on the other side of the ocean. doomspiral and i lucked out massively finding a prefurnished place in berlin (which is an especially hard city to find housing in in general). you are just going to have to keep trying to contact places until someone actually responds to you, unfortunately. and, realistically, you're going to have to trust that the listing is actually accurate to what you saw on the website.

also, i know that in both germany and austria, once you've actually moved, you will have to register your address with the local government (like within a matter of days, this is not something you can put off literally at all), so look into if you need to do that and what forms are required if you do (i forget the reqs in austria, but in germany it's your passport and a specific form you and the landlord fill out)

european countries are going to require that you have health insurance. there are companies that cater specifically to immigrants and/or students (if you happen to be doing uni there--look into the student insurance it'll be much cheaper lol). try to familiarize yourself with the way the insurance system works; for example, in germany it's not unheard of for you to have a deductible (this is still going to be Much Cheaper than a deductible from an american company lmao). also in general it doesn't hurt to be aware of things like abortion and birth control access (fun fact! abortion is totally illegal in germany and has been since the 1930s and yes you are doing that math correctly about who put those laws in place).

i highly highly recommend putting together checklists of documents you need for each major thing mentioned here. also learn how to use excel to create budgets because it's a lifesaver lol

[adamsvanrhijn]

I'm the high school/college question anon. Thank you very much for the reply, that's really interesting to me! We don't have those kinds of separate tests here afaik, so I think you must go to high school and graduate both for college and to get into trade schools, too.

Can I ask what you majored (and minored) in when you went to college? Did you change your major/minor when you changed colleges or did you stick with the same?

yeah i think the usa is pretty unique in its test options you can take outside of going to school!

i ended up in linguistics and before that was across the board, like every semester i had a different major :'-) i was gonna do a French double major at one point because i only needed like 3 more classes but i opted not to because i just wanted to graduate. i also was only one class away from a dance minor but it required anatomy and physiology and that class always filled up so i didn't bother. instead of the french major i went to france after i graduated to get a CEFR C1 cert but this was spring 2020 so that did not happen unfortunately :'-)

[robbiefischer]

📚💛☕️🤔 for Julian and Niko and maybe Alexei and Elijah??

Tysm anon, these were such fun questions to work on and I'm always thrilled to get a chance to think about my faves! I appreciate it so much!

📚 BOOKS — what level of education has your oc most recently completed/is currently in (GED, undergraduate, grad school, phd, etc)?

Julian finished undergrad and that's where he stopped. He was never especially fond of school (he always did well without really trying, but found it incredibly boring and the atmosphere unpleasant) and wasn't going to go to college at all, especially since his parents weren't offering any financial support. But his aunts really encouraged him to go on their dime, and study whatever he wanted so he got his BFA in music composition and minored in studio art. He's not especially interested in pursuing anything further, other than private music lessons to improve his skills but occasionally he kicks around the idea of a conservatory program for piano if he gets more serious about it.

Niko most recently completed his PhD in art history, he also has his masters in museology. He's always been SUCH an overachiever when it comes to school and academics (he double majored in undergrad, and has always been at the top of his class in school at every level), and while he's not currently in any program he's not opposed to the idea of it and would probably leap at the chance to do another degree if the opportunity came along.

I did this question for Elijah and Alexei for another ask, here it is!

💛 YELLOW HEART — how many languages does your oc speak? what language(s) are they learning, if any?

Julian's fluent in English and French, and has learned quite a bit of Greek for Niko's family - he's probably in between a B1-B2 on the CEFR scale. He's working on improving his Greek more than anything, but he's not averse to picking up little bits of Italian or German from Niko and Saoirse. He finds languages really interesting to dabble in, even if he's not looking to become fluent in them.

Niko's fluent in English and Greek (he grew up bilingual), as well as Italian which he studied through school and undergrad. He's around a C1 in French, and at about the B2 level in German, both of which he started learning later because they're both so vital in art history studies. He lowkey hates speaking German though, and tends to stick more to reading and writing in it while he's happy to speak French.

Elijah's only fluent in English, but he's learning Korean mostly on his own with the help of one of his teammates, Flora. He's still very much a beginner at it, somewhere between A2-B1 on the CEFR scale. He took Spanish in school but has forgotten pretty much everything he learned since he never used it.

Alexei speaks English fluently, and while he's not fluent in either he's relatively advanced in both Spanish and French. He's a bit better in Spanish (especially with speaking) as he took it in school and didn't start learning French until he was an adult. He's probably close to C1 in Spanish, and B2 in French. He's a bit like Julian in that he just finds languages really interesting and tends to pick them up easily, so they're a fun hobby for him.

☕️ HOT BEVERAGE — does your oc prefer coffee, tea, hot chocolate, milk, water, or some other drink? how do they like to take this drink (ex. coffee with milk, hot chocolate with whipped cream, a specific kind of tea, etc)?

Niko is all about tea lattes and while he prefers a good chai latte, he'll drink matcha lattes or earl grey lattes as well. He'll drink coffee, but generally doesn't enjoy it. Every great once in a while he likes a good, really rich cup of dark chocolate hot cocoa. He's not really a fan of water overall - he'll drink it because it's necessary, but it's boring. He prefers sparkling, and would rather it be flavored.

Julian probably loves sparkling water than anything else. He just finds it really refreshing, unlike still water which he thinks tastes kind of stale. He's not a big fan of coffee overall, it makes him feel a bit jittery, so he usually sticks to tea. He loves green and white teas, he definitely prefers them over black teas which he finds can get a bit bitter and unpleasant.

Alexei's an iced coffee boy. Even if it's cold out, that's what he wants. He has a few favorite drinks from Literati that he loves, but will often make himself a big travel cup of it at home (with fancy syrups) to take to work with him. They always keep a jug of cold brew concentrate in the fridge to use as a base and he goes through it pretty quickly (less quickly now that he knows you're supposed to dilute it).

Elijah's one true love is matcha, and he makes himself all sorts of fancy concoctions and lattes with it. But he loves coffee too, and fancy hot cocoa. Don't make him choose between his children, he literally works at a coffee shop and will try anything once.

🤔 THINKING FACE — what are some of your oc's quirks/mannerisms?

Okay, this is the hard one! This is something I hadn't really considered before so I don't have a ton for you (sorry!), but here's what I've managed to think of for them over the last few days.

Niko talks with his hands, especially when he's talking about something he's really passionate about. He's also a fidgeter when he's stressed or trying to focus himself - he alternates between bouncing his leg under the table if he's sitting, tapping his fingertips against the table or any flat surface in front of him or, if neither of those things are an option, twisting one of the many rings he wears as a fidget.

Julian is 100% a lip biter when he's worried, or stressed, or concentrating. When he's really focusing on something, he'll stick the tip of his tongue out just a tiny bit which Niko finds ridiculously cute. Julian has no idea that he does this, and Niko will never tell him because he knows if he does Julian will get embarrassed about it and stop doing it.

Alexei taps the tip of his pen or pencil against his desk when he's reading essays or parent e-mails or whatever, usually to the rhythm of whatever song's currently stuck in his head. He's also a hummer and will often be humming something under his breath quietly when he's trying to concentrate on something.

Elijah furrows his brow when he's concentrating on something and he doesn't realize he's doing it until Alexei's stroking the pad of his thumb between his eyebrows to release it. He tends to doodle absentmindedly whenever he's left with a pencil or pen and something he can draw on - could be the back of an envelope, a cocktail napkin or an actual notebook. He's also incapable of sitting in a chair properly - he's either sprawled out in it with a leg hooked over one arm, perched on the edge with his feet tucked up under him or leaning back in it.

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[interstate40]

currently I'm CEFR B1 in Spanish and hoping to be at C1 level by next spring