#cdream related

[localsharkcryptid]

There's something to be said about trusting a snake not to bite versus being able to tell when they are going to bite. Sure you can trust a snake, disregard it's boundaries, poke and prod and ignore every sign till it's too late - the snake bites. You trusted the snake and harassed it, believing it wouldn't strike and defend itself from the annoyance. It tried to warn you, it tried to flee but you didn't listen but you blame the snake cause you trusted it, how could it bite you if not out of malice. Or, in an opposite light, you can pay attention to the signs, you can tread carefully and watch the snake- respect it and know the warnings, leave it alone when it wants to be free and you most likely won't get bit. Just something about pushing people and ignoring their attempts to warn you, then acting like they're the problem when you were the one who didn't pay attention, but I did and look at me, I'm the only one who isn't bitten. I'm the only one who understands.

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Quickish Sketch of Gild and a Dragonbite viper, and some additional symbolism writing :]

Gild definitely develops a sort of fondness for Dragonbite vipers, finding them along the way and occasionally within the land of Las Nevadas - They take the time to move them, to learn to read them so he doesn't get bit. Dragons say he has some way with the lethal serpents, when in reality he simply knows how to read them. It's nothing special, he simply understands them and most importantly doesn't see them as inherent monsters for having a deadly bite. After all, they bite in defence, it's not the snake's fault they had to bite to protect themselves - whether the threat was real or not is irrelevant, if a dragon gets bit they most likely provoked it. Snakes don't just bite.

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Anyways, yeah I am 100% using Dragonbite vipers to play with symbolism especially with Dream (CDream's name doesn't change for this au) and Gild, so expect so much of it.

[suenitos]

just say you hate me youre like a god with the sun behind you he had an aura about him its like a job to destroy myself we made each other and other lines george has said that ive been totally normal about

[csueno]

too controversial to be vriska coded😭 that sentence contradicts itself

OP WAS WEAK. WEAKKKKKKKKKK.

[marurumai]

ppl who genuinely think that cdream is just a poor guy that just wanted peace but went abt it the wrong way genuinely concern me. like. excuse me. did we not hear the same speech at the final disc confrontation. what screams peace in unnecessarily stalking a child and abusing them for months. what screams peace in handing tnt to a mentally unstable man. what screams peace in collecting anything anyone loved and using it to gain power. what screams peace in destroying the community house and blaming it on someone else. what screams epace on wanting to kill tubbo. what screams peace on wanting to lock skeepy up. what screams peace on beating someone to death just to feel powerful. what screams peace on saying that you have fun abusing a child.

[demonstars]

NOT THE CANCELLATIONS BEING CANON EVENTS... (i guess they ARE necessary for "character development"???? 😭)

THEY LTIETALLY ARE ESSENTIAL OF HOW HE IS AS A PERSON I WANT TO TRHOW UP

[noastea]

DSMP Hybrids - Part 1

- Demon Hybrids

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✦ For my DSMP headcanons of hybrids on the server, I decided to work a bit on the anatomy and characteristics of each species, starting by Demons!

Note: There's a difference for full-blood demons, such as cBad and the others; I'll be focusing mainly on the hybrids rather than the full demons.

⤷ During the time I made this drawing I had only worked on 3 demon hybrids: cEryn, cTommy and cSapnap, however I was reminded that Tina confirmed her character to be a demon, so she too is a demon hybrid in my headcanons (I'll be working on her design later!)

HYBRIDS CHARACTERISTICS

⤷ Demon Hybrids have very similar characteristics in general: As beings with demon blood, they all are born with long tails and horns, with different sizes depending on their sex. They have long ears and scales around their body, that can be more or less proeminent depending on the person;

Although my first three designs have all different shades of red and black, these hybrids can also have dark shades of blue and purple (such as cTina);

⤷ For demon hybrids, their sex can affect their physiognomy. Some of the charistics I worked on were:

For AMAB hybrids: They have longer tails with sharper tips and small horns;

For AFAB hybrids: Their tails are smaller with a round tip and bigger horns;

So, what about my cTommy design? I headcanon cTommy as an intersex person (He/She) which leads to him as having mixed traits from both sexes (Long tail with sharper tip and big horns); I'd like to point that hybrids can be born with traits of the other sex, although that's not cTommy's case :)

Demon Hybrids in general also very some strong fire resistence (they're not immune, just resistent), besides other quirks such as: Better eyesight at night and better hearing than humans.

Their hybrid organs are also essential for them: their tails are very important for balance and sense of spacial perception, whilst their horns are related to their hearing, so damadging those parts could cause serious injuries - Example: cTommy got her horns destroyed during cDream's beating in prison, and although they were restored on revival, she's deaf on her left ear, besides injuries on his tail during exile, she gets clumsier after that.

So yeah, they're definitely not decorations but functional organs.

cTina also has serious injuries on her horns, making her almost completely deaf on both ears;

For cEryn, he's one of the few hybrids that doesn't have any scales around his body like cTommy and cSapnap do;

Some background information: Demon Hybrids aren't exactly common, so for all of them on the server meeting each other was kind of a surprise, maybe less for cTommy as he met cEryn during his childhood, but yeah, still a bit rare.

That'll be it for now for the demon hybrids. I plan on working on cTina's design once I'm done on the Bovidae hybrids (cTubbo, cPuffy and cSchlatt)

Thanks for those who read this! :>

[bleue-flora]

(I may have… gotten a little carried away sooo…. I don’t how y’all do this so concisely… ooof XD)

Ah so many good thoughts… this topic in general is very interesting and actually timeline of c!Dream’s mask is something that has always bothered me (probably something to do with my affinity for canon and not having a concrete explanation… lol XD). Because in lore when does he have it? I like the idea of c!Tommy ripping it off in staged finale (and yo that does line up for the helmet application) but then are we saying it’s gone in prison? Did c!Tommy destroy it (c!Dream destroyed his stuff in exile so it’d make sense)? Or does he get it back somehow? If we are saying it’s a sacred kind of respect then, I feel like he wouldn’t be facing the server in the prison break without it… then again maybe not… but if it is detrimental, does c!Techno bring him one for the prison break? Before the genuine finale, I had the idea that c!Bad put the mask in his inventory on purpose so c!Dream would get it back when he lost the fight and also that maybe c!Dream put a strong unbreaking enchantment on it so they couldn’t break it but not binding because he assumed people would have enough respect to not take it off… but he was wrong because c!Tommy took it off in the staged finale… anyways lots of things to consider, like does he have multiple masks? Has he ever removed it at all? Was it never removed until in the genuine finale?… I don’t know it’s hard to determine what makes the most sense and it’s one of the things that irks me because no matter where/when we choose to believe he has it there are inconsistencies…

However, to your first statements - Can I say neither? Neither just a symbol of influence, nor some prized procession nor c!dream’s identity. Because here’s the thing, I don’t think it’s just a cool and intimidating fashion statement noting his influence, nor a prized possession like spirit or his axe, but I’m not sure c!Dream’s mask has the same importance as cc!Dream’s mask. Or well the same as cc!Dream staying faceless to protect his identity (and to represent other things for cc! but that’s another essay lol). In this case c!Dream doesn’t have or well can’t protect his identity because he is already physically exposed, with everything he loves exposed, they know his address (until he has none XD lol), they know what the rest of him looks like. And because of that, their masks serve different purposes - cc!Dream hid his face but he hasn’t really changed who he is. On the other hand, I think there is more so some serious mask symbolism going on. From what I can tell a huge part of c!Dream’s character, isn’t people not knowing what his physical face looks like. What his nose looks like and what color his eyes are don’t play into the greater plot. C!Tommy doesn’t even compliment on how he looks or note his features in the genuine finale (that I remember), because I don’t think that’s what it is about. It is more so about him being pulled into the role as the villain. The disc finale is staged, he put on a good show and that is part of his character. As the story goes on, he starts hiding and lying more and being who they say he is instead of himself. In this way, the mask isn’t just about hiding his physical identity, it’s about hiding himself - his feelings, his passions, his reasons, his emotions… etc. So, when c!Tommy asks him to take off the mask (helmet), it isn’t about his literal face it’s about him being vulnerably and openly himself, stripped away of the many faces he wears to protect himself and his attachments. It’s about someone going - let me see you - understand you - show me who you are - what is your side of the story……

So yea to me, c!Dream isn’t hiding just his face, it’s a symbol and part of his persona. The privacy and protection of his face, narratively speaking doesn’t mean much so if it is why he wears the mask then I find that to be rather lackluster. And because I feel like it represents more than his literal face being exposed I do think that it is not the same violation to take it off as it would have been to leak pictures of cc!Dream. And I think in general cc!Dream’s mask being timed and directly connected to c!’s is certainly questionable and as you said yourself (at the bottom) the timeline is iffy and problematic and again as I said not necessarily connected in meaning and purpose.

But having said that, if we are saying it is used to protect his face from being seen, then I’m not sure I see your point that it is a higher violation than other cruelties. After all, what makes showing his face more cruel than torture or murder or intense degrading and humiliation? Honestly, I think it’s genuinely interesting that you think it is so sacred in the context of the dsmp or in general, because if so, then why? Why does he feel the need to hide his face and what about that need makes it off limits to other characters from removing it and how is that entail all of his personal respect. Because to be honest I just don’t understand how that violation is worse, more personal or on another scale to what they did to c!Dream or even other characters? Like “anything to gain”? When has c!Tommy or c!Sapnap (to name a few) done anything for gain… the gain is chaos and destructive entertainment and having a fun time… I don’t know. As you said it is subjective, so I hope I didn’t come across too abrasive. I just genuinely don’t understand, feel free to fill me in…

I mean when it comes to the cc!s’ choice in fictional ‘crimes’ I’m not sure there is too much consideration (at least not from all of the cc!’s) for which are more or less forgivable, like *jesters to Pandora’s Vault* as an example (though there are things certainly off limits just in general media)… (I’m gonna ignore the bully comment because there is a lot of bullying and many bullies in dsmp but perhaps you meant in the context of a high school setting…) But “the DSMP doesn’t work with our world’s rules: it works in the fictional world of streaming… killing, burning…etc are things commonly done there” Yes! Absolutely, not hypocritical. It does apply to its own rules. :) But “Exposing c!dream face” is akin to “stripping him naked” I mean maybe? Again I’m not sure I see that…

Regardless, about c!Quackity, this is a guy who spent days upon days torturing c!Dream doing anything he can to get the book… So no I’ll have to stop you there ain’t no way lol. I do not think it’d be out of his wheel house to do such a personal violation to get the book (or for fun and revenge…) assuming Sam didn’t take it first or he even had it anyways. Though I’m kinda dying of curiosity to know what gives you the impression c!Quackity is more respectful and honorable than c!Sam or a furious c!Tommy for that matter. Like…

So, if in the finale c!Dream’s helmet, that he takes off for c!Tommy, represents his mask, does that mean that when c!Sapnap puts on c!Dream’s armor, Nightmare, he is putting on and stealing c!Dream’s mask? - Because I’m not gonna lie that really puts a new perspective on that betrayal… Furthermore, when c!Techno brings c!Dream armor in prison, did he make him a mask and bring it to him… and then take away the mask later? - If so, again that’s kinda screwed up. Though you could argue that perhaps he made c!Dream a mask for the jailbreak so he had one to face the server with and then because they were trying to not seem like allies he took it back, knowing that c!Dream would get another one. Which also begs the question, did c!Punz make c!Dream a mask for after prison or is he simply handing over one of c!Dream’s masks?… When c!Tommy in the minecart skirmish stole c!Dream’s armor, was he taunting him with his own mask? - Because oof that’s some serious violation and disrespect…

In other words, if you think that c!Dream’s helmet in the finale represents the mask (which I’d say is implied by c!Tommy) does that same logic apply across the board or is it just for that moment? And if it does apply to rest of the lore, wow does that have some implications…

[uftopia]

He’s part creeper because Sam looked after him for a week, right? That makes the prison that much worse for me like DAMN

Yes!!!AHHHHH OKAY FOR PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW I have a cdream headcanon on why I draw him the way I do

Puffy is cdreams mom- not by birth though, and at this point she already has her son foolish. She found Dream deep in a swampy forest that was pulsing with magic. Then, he was just a little blob (the one we love) she takes him in unsure of what to do- but keeps him fed and alive. As days pass, he shifts to become more human looking- and because puffys a hybrid of a sheep, he takes on her features, shifting without meaning to. It’s like making an impression on a baby where they copy your mannerisms but instead it’s looks!

But of course, with puffy being an active pirate, she leaves town for weeks or months at a time. And the first time she left for a voyage with Dream around, it was around a month. She left him with awesam

Dream, still developing like a human baby, shifts to look like sam, who’s part creeper. He becomes green, gains paws, claws, and a longer more cat like tail. He keeps the horns and ears, but they’ve straightened out slightly. He still has curlier sheep’s wool hair and tail.

When puffy gets back, of course she’s confused like ?? Wtf this is my baby ?? What happened ?

And I have another hc on top of that that cschlatt is related to puffy in some way, like her brother, and Sam desperately tried to get him too look after Dream a ltitle so he would at least keep most of his sheepy features, but schlatt is schlatt

AND over time, unable to shift as much as he did before as a baby, just picks up on subtleties of his friends. He used to have puffys white hair, but gains a light brown color from sap and George, and his straight horns take from sapnap

It’s one of my fav hcs of mine

[drystem]

Finished my dream design!! some detail + design ramblings under the cut

so used some of my alters (specifically Dream fictives) as a visual reference for my cDream design- most obviously Casey with the regalia

(Side by Side)

my cDream has longer otter furs than Casey because I was drawing them short for stylistic reasons at the time. Also I’m proud of the beadwork so here’s a closeup

I took sheep features + a lot of the outfit design (specifically the cape) from my alter Hope

I was initially planning to reference other alters but didn’t want the design to get too crowded so left it at that

also this is our first dream related drawing in a while thats not just if one of our fictives so thats fun

[hiding-in-the-vault]

How does one get into Dreblr? I've been watching a few people get into it and I wanted to shoot my shot on maybe becoming like you guys, I've looked up to you for like over a year and wondered how to get into the Dreblr scene

Contrary to popular belief, dreblr not a secret club that you need permission to enter.

I'll be blunt. If you start posting and tagging dreblr, one of two things will happen:

The dreblrs will see you, get excited at the prospect of new people who also like the traumatized green man, and start talking to you- or pay closer attention when you start talking to them. Cue follows and reblogs and internet friendship wooo

OR

The dreblrs will see you, but your takes are in fact not dreblr approved and you get blocked by everyone.. I feel bad even using 'you' here, since I doubt that'll be the case if you've been following people here for so long. but sometimes people show up in the dreblr tag not understanding what it means, and its glaringly obvious. Tagging stuff like "#dreblr #i hate ccdream but cdream is fun haha", making it clear they think he's just an evil girlboss who is #irredeemable, staged finale was a retcon or ruined the story, and how he's ssoooooo obsessed with ctommy- that ain't in, chief.

I'm spelling it out because sometimes people act like dreblr is a big group chat that you need to get an invite to. While, yes, it is a bit more isolated than just everyone who posts c!dream art, but the distinction is largely in how you understand the character.

Beyond that, just start posting! You don't need new fresh exciting takes or shiny polished art. Really anything that fellow fans will relate to on some level will do the job. Reblog people's posts with barely coherent comments in the tags (my personal favorite~), send asks, engage with AUs, and people will notice your name becoming more and more common :)

[localsharkcryptid]

Okay, making an interesting post here BUT I'm working on throwing together a DSMP Roleplay/Hangout server - I wanna make more friends but genuinely I suck at communicating here on Tumblr, and honestly I don't think I've seen any roleplay servers from dreblr/the cDream side of here? Regardless I want to meet and interact with people finally in a setting where I'm more comfortable so I'm making it myself.

And basically I want to ask what people might want to see out of this? I intend for the server to work as a place for general chatting and fandom related things as well as being a roleplay center for those who do so or would like to try doing it! So there's gonna be a general chatting section and a roleplay section (potentially using forums so people can have their own chat rooms n all) at the minimum - I'm considering opening up the idea of an AU related section? One so people could roleplay ideas that don't take place on the DSMP itself- idk I kinda want to get ideas and an interest check- so here we are.

Additional Note About This:

For this server - We're treating the fictional characters as fictional characters and I swear to god I may make being an asshole to others over ships if mentioned a bannable offence. I'm a multishipper as people know and I won't tolerate y'all out there who get bitchy over people shipping c!Techno or anyone else for that matter in my house. As long as it's legal who cares. Like actually.

In a similar vein to that, c!Wilbur is also in that boat, he's a fictional character and I will hit people with a stick if every five minutes they feel the need to do the whole "but fuck the CC" or something - you don't need to bring it up at ALL.

(I don't mean to seem overtly aggressive here but I want to be VERY firm on this being a chill/safe space to just enjoy these characters and the story, meaning no drama bullshit, no stupid fights over people wanting the pig to kiss men etc.)

[lookinghalfacorpse]

Okay but can we talk about cdoomsday trio and how all three of them have some sort of connection to gods/goddesses and godhood.

Philza: The Angel of Death, literally MARRIED to the Goddess of Death, immortal, ancient. Idk if the hardcore worlds are canon to cPhil but if they are then he literally has relations to multiple other gods as well.

Techno: Literally called The Blood God, the best fighter on the server, with skills def near god-like, if you think about it, then the bell is pretty much a holy item/symbol for cTechno and ringing it could count as preyer. Also wasn't I might be wrong but wasn't he like basically immune to the Egg and it's bs? Sounds pretty god-like to me.

Dream: Man-made immortality thanks to the revive book(and Punz), it was said in the finale that they found out more stuff besides just reviving people(ex. they found the End dimension), literally just the revive book itself, like he can literally bring people back from the dead. Then there's the fact that he's the Admin of the server, so that has to be something. THE FACT THAT GOD STOLE HIS FACE.

Basically they're all either gods or mini gods. Love that for 'em <3

this is a huge reason why doomsdaytrio is so compelling for me. they make my theology student heart flutter.

what they have in common is that they didn't start as gods.... presumably. i've seen some headcanons and theories about ctechno and cdream's pasts where they're very intertwined with godhood (and i'm personally invested in cdream's past with xd), but there doesn't seem to be much canonical evidence of it. instead, we're looking at three men who painstakingly transformed themselves into gods, whether by gaining the favor of one, getting the reputation of one, or harnessing the powers of one. i love the idea of these three having an alliance when they're all in different stages of attaining godhood, and their godhoods look different, and a DIFFERENT god has dream's face, and we don't know why.

there are definitely ghost stories told around campfires about the winged angel of death, who never misses a shot on his bow. there are warriors who ring bells before battle to summon strength and power. given more time, there would surely be legends about the man who knew death well enough to beat it.

[moonimscruffy]

Because it was ctommy’s birthday yesterday I would just like to put out one of my headcanons for him. I feel like Tommy is the only human in the dsmp, why? I don’t really know I just kind of got that feeling. Since Tommy is not related to Phil, my reasoning behind why Tommy and Wilbur became so close to the point they were like brothers was because Wilbur looks very human. I think cwilbur would be some kind of bird demon thingy that just so happens to look human. I also think cdream looks very human which, most definitely, fucked with Tommy during exile since he just wanted someone to relate to, someone who is a human.

[sunlitmcgee]

unshakable childish whimsy instilled in him by Force

I love writing in the benchtrio royalty au actually. c!tommy in it is a delight. he's outwardly childish bc he's forced to be so, bc c!dream, his “adoptive father” (aka c!dream's holding him hostage bc he’s the youngest prince of the sbi's country and immediately decided to adopt him bc he didn’t give a shit about his biological son c!ranboo) basically has removed everything in his life that can help him learn to grow up to keep him dependent and punishes him for trying to grow up. but internally he’s perceptive and is the only one who knows about c!dream's secret experiments, and while his feelings on his family are… complicated, he's a lot more mature than he shows.

[anarchy-and-piglins]

Anything u post in relation to fireworksduo haunts me. I live in fear and excitement to any post or au you create in relation to them.

I have amazing news for you, Anon, because I actually got obsessed with an old AU that used to be rivalsduo-centric but that I lost interest in since my desire to write cDream went down the drain (big surprise lmao), but I have since been brainrotting an alternate version where it's Tubbo who takes Dream's place and how that would alter the plot and dynamics and it's been a lot of fun. So maybe I'll post about it! :D

[cdroloisms]

yeah hi me again with another question SO if cpunz knew the contents of the revive book the whole time cdream was in the prison, why was cdream so terrified of being killed while imprisoned? couldnt cpunz just revive him?

good question :D

i mean, dying is still kind of catastrophic, tbh -- being revived makes it really obvious that c!Dream isn't the only one with the book, which could destroy all the effort they put into staged finale (which is exactly what happened in the genuine finale, as the reveal of c!Punz and the book is what jeopardizes both his and c!Dream's lives with the nuke plan), for one. the terror of dying is something that's necessary to emphasize that He Is The Book You Need To Keep Him Alive, which is what's expected from a scenario where he's the only one with the book which is what everyone else thinks is the truth ... so there's no good reason for him not to act terrified, ykwim? Additionally, revivals are obviously causing problems (though it's unclear if he and punz knew about this by the time the prison began -- I'm inclined to say yes, but it's not hard confirmed in canon afaik) and keeping unnecessary ones to a minimum is a good play, regardless. plus, there's a lot of fucked up things you can do to someone when you can kill and revive them, and the necessity of not killing dream was very much what was protecting him in canon from shit like quackity, bc of sam's commitment to keeping him alive, etc. keeping people from ever knowing that that's a possibility protects him from Those Horrors (which have been explored already by quite a few people in quite a few AUs, at this point, LOL) -- not dying is for sure the safest choice for him, and the consequences of being killed range from "pretty bad" to "outright horrific" for c!dream no matter how you cut it -- plenty of reason to be afraid besides just death, imo.

for a much more hypothetical side of this answer, c!dream's dying to tommy and tubbo in the genuine finale really kicks off a lot -- which ends up leading to the Incident, not that it's super clear what specifically happened to trigger it (considering the planned fight against XD, the egg hatching, and the nuke literally all happened at the same time.) it's still unclear what c!Dream's specific connection to the supernatural, especially XD, is in particular, so it's hard to make any definitive judgements -- and it doesn't seem likely for c!Dream's death to be Specifically meaningful considering how many times he possibly died in death/revival experiments with c!Punz (which we. obviously still don't have a specific number, but c!Dream does say that he's been to Limbo more than once very intentionally and c!Schlatt makes a point of saying that he saw c!Dream, not Mexican Dream, in Limbo with his book of moon runes a few times as far back as march 16th) -- but that being said, could c!Dream's death be part of the Event Hullabaloo that might've played some kind of role in the everything that has to do with the server reset? I mean, possibly? He's always been someone related to the supernatural stuff on this server, so it's hard to say for sure. This latter point isn't definitive in the slightest and I think "because being terrified of death still makes sense/was the smart act to play into" is more than enough explanation for why he was acting so terrified, but it's an interesting thought experiment, I guess.