#catherine cobham
Explore tagged Tumblr posts
roughghosts ยท 2 months ago
Text
Poetry as an act of resistance: A River Dies of Thirst by Mahmoud Darwish
A great poet is one who makes me small when I write, and great when I read. A River Dies of Thirst, the last volume of Mahmoud Darwishโ€™s work to be released in Arabic, just eight months before his death in 2008, offers a precious opportunity to spend a little more time with a great poet as he casts a sorrowful eye at his beloved Palestine, and reflects on love, life, time, and memory. But moreโ€ฆ
Tumblr media
View On WordPress
0 notes
translations2 ยท 1 year ago
Text
๋‘๋ ค์›€์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™, ๋งˆํ๋ฌด๋“œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์œ„์‹œ
The law of fear
- Mahmoud Darwish
- inย A River Dies of Thirst: journalsย by Mahmoud Darwish, translated from Arabic to English by Catherine Cobham
The killer looks at the spectre of the dead man, not into his eyes, without regret. He says to those around him: โ€˜Donโ€™t blame me. Iโ€™m afraid. I killed because Iโ€™m afraid, and Iโ€™ll kill again because Iโ€™m afraid.โ€™ Some of those present, accustomed to favouring psychological analysis over the laws of justice, say: โ€˜He is defending himself.โ€™ Others, admirers of the idea that progress is superior to morality, say: โ€˜Justice emanates from the generosity of power. The victim should apologise for the trauma he has caused the killer.โ€™ Scholars of the distinction between life and reality say: โ€˜If this ordinary event had taken place anywhere but here, in this holy land, would we have even known the victimโ€™s name? Let us then turn our attention to comforting the frightened man.โ€™ When they went down the road of sympathising with the killer, some foreign tourists passing by asked them: โ€˜What has the child done wrong?โ€™ They answered: โ€˜He will grow up and frighten the frightened manโ€™s son.โ€™ โ€˜What has the woman done wrong?โ€™ They said: โ€˜She will give birth to a memory.โ€™ โ€˜What has the tree done wrong?โ€™ They said: โ€˜A green bird will appear from it.' And they shouted: โ€˜Fear, not justice, is the basis of power.โ€™ The spectre of the dead man appeared to them from a cloudless sky and when they opened fire on him they did not see a single drop of blood, and they were afraid.
_
๋‘๋ ค์›€์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™
- ๋งˆํ๋ฌด๋“œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์œ„์‹œ
- ๋ฐœ์ทŒ: <๊ฐ•์€ ๋ชฉ์ด ๋ง๋ผ ์ฃฝ๋Š”๋‹ค: ์ผ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๋“ค> ๋งˆํ๋ฌด๋“œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์œ„์‹œ, ์บ์„œ๋ฆฐ ์ฝฅํ–„ ์•„๋ž์–ด์—์„œ ์˜์–ด ์˜ฎ๊น€
์‚ด์ธ์ž๋Š” ์ฃฝ์€ ๋‚จ์ž์˜ ์œ ๋ น์„ ์‘์‹œํ•œ๋‹ค, ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋งˆ์ฃผ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ , ํ›„ํšŒ ์—†์ด. ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค: '๋‚ด ํƒ“์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‘๋ ค์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‘๋ ค์› ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ฃฝ์˜€๊ณ , ๋‘๋ ต๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋˜ ์ฃฝ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.' ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ๋˜, ์ •์˜์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™๋ณด๋‹ค ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ„์„์„ ์„ ํ˜ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ต์ˆ™ํ•œ ์ด๋“ค์€ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค, '๊ทธ๋Š” ์ž๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ์–ดํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.' ์ง„๋ณด๊ฐ€ ๋„๋•๋ณด๋‹ค ์šฐ์›”ํ•˜๋‹ค ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ด๋“ค์€ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค: '์ •์˜๋Š” ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์˜ ๋„ˆ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์›€์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ง€์š”. ํ”ผํ•ด์ž๋Š” ์‚ด์ธ์ž์—๊ฒŒ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๊ณผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.' ์‚ถ๊ณผ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๋ถ„๊ฐ„ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•™์ž๋“ค์€ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค: '์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ด ์ด๊ณณ, ์‹ ์„ฑํ•œ ๋•…์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ๋“  ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ”ผํ•ด์ž์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋‚˜ ํ–ˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฒ์— ์งˆ๋ฆฐ ๋‚จ์ž๋ฅผ ์œ„๋กœํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋Œ๋ฆฝ์‹œ๋‹ค.โ€™ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‚ด์ธ์ž์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ฐํ•˜์ž, ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋˜ ์™ธ๊ตญ์ธ ๊ด€๊ด‘๊ฐ ๋ช‡์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ๋‹ค: '์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์ž˜๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?' ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ตํ–ˆ๋‹ค: '์ž๋ผ๋ฉด ๊ฒ์— ์งˆ๋ฆฐ ๋‚จ์ž์˜ ์•„๋“ค์„ ๊ฒ์— ์งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.' '์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์ž˜๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?' ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค; '๊ธฐ์–ต์„ ๋‚ณ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.' '๋‚˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์ž˜๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?' ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค: '๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ดˆ๋ก์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.' ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ณค๋‹ค: '์ •์˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๋‘๋ ค์›€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์˜ ๊ทผ๊ฑฐ๋‹ค.' ๊ตฌ๋ฆ„ ํ•œ ์  ์—†๋Š” ํ•˜๋Š˜์—์„œ ์ฃฝ์€ ๋‚จ์ž์˜ ์œ ๋ น์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค ์•ž์— ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜์ž ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ฃฝ์€ ๋‚จ์ž์˜ ์œ ๋ น์„ ์ด์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ๊ณ , ํ”ผ๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์šธ๋„ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์œผ๋‚˜ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
_
1935๋…„ 11์›” 1์ผ, ์—๋“œ์›Œ๋“œ ์‚ฌ์ด๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ๋ฃจ์‚ด๋ ˜, ํŒ”๋ ˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์—์„œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‹ค.
2023๋…„ 11์›” 1์ผ, ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์— ํญ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋‹นํ•œ์ง€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋„ ์ง€๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„ ๊ฐ€์ž์ง€๊ตฌ์˜ ์ž๋ฐœ๋ฆฌ์•„ ๋‚œ๋ฏผ์ดŒ์ด ๋‘๋ฒˆ์งธ ํญ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋‹นํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ดํญ๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ฃฝ๊ณ , ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์žƒ๊ณ , ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์žƒ๊ณ , ํญ๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌด๋„ˆ์ง„ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์˜ ๋Œ๋ฌด๋”๊ธฐ ์•„๋ž˜ ๊น”๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๋ถ€์ƒ์„ ์ž…์—ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์ž์ง€๊ตฌ์— ํˆฌ์ž…๋œ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์ง€์ƒ๊ตฐ์ด ํŒ”๋ ˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชธ์„ ๋ฌถ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์˜ท์„ ๋ฒ—๊ธฐ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ฃฝ์ด๊ณ  ์ง“๋ฐŸ๋Š” ์˜์ƒ์ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ๋๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ 2023๋…„์— ์ฒ˜์Œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1948๋…„ ์ด๋ž˜ ๊พธ์ค€ํžˆ 75๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ˆ˜์ฐจ๋ก€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์ด๋‹ค.
_
vimeo
์œ„์˜ ๋งํฌ์—์„œ 11์›” ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ํŒ”๋ ˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค.
_
ํŒ”๋ ˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ ๋””์•„์Šคํฌ๋ผ ์—ฌ์„ฑ Sofia Samarah ์”จ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค:
(IG: @sofiasamarah - ์•„๋ž˜๋Š” Sofia Samarah ์”จ์˜ ์ธ์Šคํƒ€๊ทธ๋žจ ๊ฒŒ์‹œ๋ฌผ์„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ฒˆ์—ญํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด๋‹ค. https://www.instagram.com/p/Cyv4rRJxzwa/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
๊ฐ€์ž์ง€๊ตฌ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค:
๋จผ์ง€
ํญํƒ„์ด ๋–จ์–ด์งˆ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์ด ๋ฌด๋„ˆ์ง€๊ณ , ๋Œ๋ฌด๋”๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์„ž์ด๋ฉด์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋จผ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธด๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋จผ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋“ค์ด๋งˆ์‹œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋Š” ์—†๋‹ค. ์‚ฐ์†Œํ˜ธํก๊ธฐ๋„ ์—†๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋‚˜ ๋ถ€์กฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ชฉ๊ณผ ๋ˆˆ๊ณผ ์ฝ”๋ฅผ ์”ป์–ด๋‚ด์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค.
์†Œ์Œ
๋ฏธ์‚ฌ์ผ, ํญ๋ฐœ, ์•ฐ๋ทธ๋Ÿฐ์Šค, ๋„์›€์„ ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋น„๋ช…์„ ์ง€๋ฅด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ฃฝ์–ด ์šฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์ ˆ๋งํ•œ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋“ค, ์•„์ด๋“ค์˜ ์šธ์Œ์†Œ๋ฆฌ. ์ง‘๋‹จํ•™์‚ด์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ ์ด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์ด ๋“ค๋ ค์˜จ๋‹ค.
๋ถ€ํŒจ
๋Œ๋ฌด๋”๊ธฐ ์•„๋ž˜์—, ๋‹ฟ์ง€๋„ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ณณ์—, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชธ๋“ค์ด ๊น”๋ ค์žˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฅ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ ์–ด๋„ 1000๋ช…์˜ ์ˆ˜์Šตํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ๋ชธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด๋„ˆ์ง„ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์„ ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์žฅ๋น„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์—๋Š” ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•œ ๋ชธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค. ๋ฌด๋„ˆ์ง„ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ์„ ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชธ๋“ค์ด ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•œ ์ง€ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ ํ›„์—์•ผ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ• ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค. ์ฃฝ์€ ์‚ด ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ž์ง€๊ตฌ์˜ ๊ณต๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ฑ„์šด๋‹ค.
๋ฐฐ์„ค๋ฌผ
๋ฌผ์ด ๋Š๊ธด ์ƒํƒœ์—์„œ ํ™”์žฅ์‹ค ๋ฌผ์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์ž์ง€๊ตฌ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ํ™”์žฅ์‹ค์ด ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค. ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์”ฉ ์ค„์„ ์„œ์„œ ํ™”์žฅ์‹ค์— ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋ณผ ์ผ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค. ํœด์ง€์™€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ ์œ„์ƒ์šฉํ’ˆ์„ ๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ณผ ์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฐธ์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ์ด ์—†์–ด ์ˆ˜๋ถ„์„ญ์ทจ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ถ€์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์ค‘์—, ํ™”์žฅ์‹ค์„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ด์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ์—ผ์ฆ๊ณผ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์„ ์œ ๋ฐœํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐ
์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐ, ํ”ผ์— ํ ๋ป‘ ์ –์€ ์˜ท, ์Œ์‹๋ฌผ ์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐ ๋“ฑ์ด ์ˆ˜๊ฑฐ๋˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ์Œ“์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ
์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•œ ๋ชธ์˜ ๋ถ€ํŒจ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ˆ˜์˜ ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ผฌ์ธ๋‹ค. ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„, ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„ ๋ฌผ๊ณ , ์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐ์™€ ์–ผ๋งˆ ๋‚จ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ฌผ๊ณผ ์‹๋Ÿ‰ ์œ„์— ์•‰๋Š”๋‹ค.
๋ถˆ๋ฉด
๊ฐ€์ž์ง€๊ตฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ธธ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฃจ 3-4์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด์„ ์ทจํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค. ๊ณ„์† ๋˜๋Š” ์†Œ์Œ๊ณผ ๋‘๋ ค์›€, ์ ˆ๋ง๊ณผ ํŠธ๋ผ์šฐ๋งˆ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถˆ๋ฉด์— ์‹œ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ํƒˆ์ง„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค. ๋ถˆ๋ฉด์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ˜์‘ ์†๋„๊ฐ€ ๋Š๋ ค์ง€๊ณ , ๋ฉด์—ญ๋ ฅ์ด ๋–จ์–ด์ง„๋‹ค.
๊ตถ์ฃผ๋ฆผ
์ ์  ์‹๋Ÿ‰ ๋ถ€์กฑ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋“ค์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์Œ์‹์„ ์–‘๋ณดํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ตถ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฃจ์น˜ ์Œ์‹์„ ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ค„์„ ์„œ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํŒŒ๊ดด๋œ ์ฃผํƒ์— ๋‚จ์€ ์˜ค์—ผ๋œ ์Œ์‹์ด๋ผ๋„ ๋ชจ์œผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
๋ฌด๋ ฅ๊ฐ
๊ฐ€์ž์ง€๊ตฌ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์ž์‹ ์ด ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๋‹ค ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์‚ฌํ• ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์Œ์€ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ฐจ๋ก€์ผ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฐ๋‹ค. ๋“ค์€ ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ–ˆ์„ ์‹œ์˜ ์‹ ์›ํ™•์ธ์„ ๋Œ€๋น„ํ•ด ํŒ”์— ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์“ด๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ, ์–ด๋–ค ์•„์ด๋“ค์˜ ๋ชธ๋“ค์€, ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์‚ด์•„์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํŒ”์— ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์จ๋‘์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋”๋ผ๋ฉด ์‹ ์›ํ™•์ธ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
_
*๋ฒˆ์—ญ ์ค‘์— '์‹œ์ฒด', '์‚ฌ์ฒด', '์‹œ์‹ '๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹จ์–ด๋“ค์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ์™€, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋‹จ์–ด๋“ค์€ ์ฃฝ์Œ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ค๋‚ด๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋“ค์ผ๊นŒ. ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ณ ๋ฏผํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํŒ”๋ ˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ ๋งค์ผ ๋งค์ผ ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ, '์‹œ์‹ '๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๋‚˜ '์‹œ์ฒด'์™€ '์‚ฌ์ฒด'๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋ชธ์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ˆซ์ž๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ด์ „์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ์ง€์šฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹๊นŒ, ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์–ด dead body๋ฅผ '์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•œ ๋ชธ'์ด๋ผ ๋ฒˆ์—ญํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
1 note ยท View note
une-sanz-pluis ยท 9 months ago
Text
I've been thinking about how Katherine J. Lewis made this remark about Catherine de Valois and Isabeau of Bavaria
It is often claimed, without supporting evidence, that Isabeau was notoriously promiscuous, sometimes in discussions of Katherine. Strickland strongly implies this, calling Isabeau a โ€œwicked womanโ€ and a โ€œdegraded woman.โ€ None of the scholarship on Katherine has explicitly drawn comparisons with her mother. Yet the two have received parallel treatment because the claim that Katherine was governed by her fleshly passions is taken at face value, without acknowledgement of the ideological implications of such obviously gendered criticism. (x)
Because while scholarship doesn't make this comparison*, there's Denise Giardina's Good King Harry and Brenda Honeyman's Good Duke Humphrey, where Catherine is presented as the young and beautiful version of her mother - conniving, evil, promiscuous. Since Giardina describes Isabeau in quite grotesque terms, there's also the implication that Catherine will one day become as monstrous in appearance as her mother, her exterior finally matching her interior.
However, the vast majority of novels about Catherine are sympathetic and view her 'notorious promiscuity' as an unfair and untrue slander that denies Catherine's status as a romantic heroine. These novels are frequently positioned as interventions, reclaiming Catherine's story as a tale of true love.
All the while, however, these novels stick to the traditional view of Isabeau of Bavaria. She is still "conniving, evil, promiscuous", fat and thus grotesque, and an abusive mother (this characterisation also pops up in novels about Isabelle de Valois too, though Isabelle's reputation is for tragedy, not romance or promiscuity). Typically, Isabeau terrorises Catherine as a child, coldly pimps her out once she's of an age to be married, and always derides her. Isabeau, often depicted as physically repulsive because of her obese, aged body, is also frequently jealous of Catherine for her youth and beauty. Giardina presents Isabeau on the other hand as being absolutely deluded about her appearance, imagining herself to be as beautiful and as sexually desirable as Catherine to the point where she offers herself sexually to her son-in-law upon hearing Henry V has quarrelled with her daughter. The scene makes clear her delusion by focusing on Henry's revulsion of her physical body which she has exposed to him a grotesque attempt at seduction.
While the purpose Isabeau serves in these narratives is both a matter of perceived "historical accuracy" (though some of these books were published after the historical reassessments of Isabeau by the likes of Tracy Adams and Rachel Gibbons) and to render Catherine as sympathetic as possible (setting the scene for her "rescue", usually by either Henry V or Owen Tudor, both serving as her romantic hero), it also feels like Isabeau is being used as to refute Catherine's reputation for "notorious promiscuity", presenting Isabeau as the most monstrous iteration of that so that the behaviour that earns Catherine that reputation is always considered a far lesser, if not wholly unproblematic, infraction.
In other words, Isabeau is the dark mirror of Catherine. Isabeau's sexual desires are about the physical, not the personal. She is insatiable and undiscerning, concerned only with her own gratification. She's at the mercies of her uncontrollable lust, bestial, and ultimately shallow. But Catherine? Catherine is driven by only pure emotions. She's in love, she's a romantic. Catherine doesn't fuck, she makes love. Catherine is the furtherest thing from a slut - a woman searching for true love. If you want to see a real slut, look at Isabeau. Not Catherine, a martyr to true love.
(Or Eleanor Cobham, who often serves as an antagonist to Catherine after Catherine is widowed - though, unlike Isabeau, Eleanor's scandalous sexuality is often suppressed. She coldly uses her sexuality to advance, unlike Isabeau, who is overcome by lust, or Catherine, who is in love. Eleanor, it could be argued, serves a dark mirror of Owen Tudor - the lover of lesser status who advances through the sexual conquest of a high status individual.)
None of these women's reputation for promiscuity is particularly warranted by modern standards. Isabeau's alleged adulteries come from Burgundian propaganda that aimed to undermine her and Louis, Duke of Orleans, or else developed in the years after the Treaty of Troyes to discredit Charles VII's claim to the throne. There is no evidence that this was anything more than slander. Catherine's reputation was borne from the fact she secretly remarried after Henry V's death to a man of lower status in defiance of the minority council. Eleanor's one known sexual relationship was with a man she later married and who probably should be considered estranged from his wife at the time. Eleanor could be considered as a homewrecker (though I would argue such a label ignores the political circumstances in which Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester's first marriage fell apart) but not necessarily promiscuous. But even if they were promiscuous, isn't time we moved on from demonising women for their sexuality?
* Well, John Ashdown-Hill calls Isabeau of Bavaria "something of an nymphomaniac" and says it's "possible that Catherine inherited her mother's strong sexuality", but I hardly count him as a scholar and you can't inherit sexuality, wtf.
8 notes ยท View notes
heartofstanding ยท 2 years ago
Note
I saw a post going around about Henry V's looks, so I wonder if you happen to know the hair colour of his siblings? I know the hair colours of some Plantaganets, but frankly I've never looked for those of Henry's siblings before.
Hello! So, there's really only information about what colour hair three of Henry V's five siblings had and only one case where I feel we can be 99.9% certain of the hair colouring.
I'll go into a lot more detail (with photos! and my trademark rambling!) below the cut but basically:
Thomas, Duke of Clarence: unknown
John, Duke of Bedford: dark brown
Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester: probably dark brown
Blanche of England: possibly blonde or red
Philippa of England: unknown
John, Duke of Bedford's hair is depicted as brown in two extant manuscripts that belonged to him. Depictions in manuscripts are problematic as far as "true likenesses" go. The artist might not know what their subject look like so they cannot make a true-to-life likeness even if they wanted to. Or they might be making an idealised or generic portrait where what's important is more what the figure represents (i.e. status as king, queen, duke etc.) rather than what the figure really looked like.
But these two manuscripts depict John in what appears to be an effort to depict a reasonable likeness of him (you can tell by the nose). The Bedford Hours has the most detailed and fine portrait, where he has dark brown hair, an aquiline nose and it seems grey eyes (the weird five o'clock shadow around the side of his face and under his jaw is probably the result of pigment wearing off, though).
Tumblr media
The portraits in the Salisbury Breviary are overall less detailed but are still personalised enough (see: the nose) that we can say that they were probably made to resemble him:
Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media
And if that's not enough, his remains were discovered in 1860 and his hair colour was noted as "dark" or "black". The remains themselves were noted as being blackened so I'd guess the processes of embalming/decay probably darkened his dark brown hair to black.
The flip side of the manuscript problem is Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester, where we have four different depictions from four different contemporary/near-contemporary manuscripts, where his hair ranges from light brown (or dark blond, if you'd rather) to dark brown to black, including one where he looks bald but if you zoom in close enough, he has a very short crop of dark hair underneath his crown.
Tumblr media
The first is from the Talbot-Shrewsbury Book (made in Rouen, 1444/5), the second from the presentation copy of John Capgrave's Commentary on Exodus (made in England, c. 1440); the third from the Psalter of Humfrey of Gloucester (made in England in the second quarter of the 15th century, before 1447) and the fourth from the St. Albans Benefactor Book (made in St Albans monastery, begun 1380 and finished c. 1540). All of these can be connected with people who knew Humphrey and thus knew what he looked like (though it's not clear when the fourth was made, it may have been long after his lifetime), though as with all manuscripts, he may have been represented as a generic royal duke/patron/donor instead of an attempt being made at a reasonable likeness.
What is striking about them is how different they are not only from the uniform likenesses of John but from each other. If second and third have the same type of hair colour, the faces are noticeably different. None of them resemble the copy of Humphrey's portrait that closely either (though, of course, a portrait has a lot more room for detail and personalisation).
Tumblr media
However, the second and third are the most interesting in terms of hair colour because they both depict Humphrey with dark brown hair and were both made in Humphrey's lifetime by English illuminators - the third was almost certainly commissioned by Humphrey himself - so they have the best chance of being reasonably true to how he looked.
But in case that sounds too easy an answer, Humphrey's corpse was also rediscovered in the 1700s and his hair is said to have been yellow. Elizabeth, countess of Moira and a "proto-archaelogist", took some of the hair, noted the colour and that it was strong enough to be woven "Bath rings". She also suggested that the colour of the hair was not as it had been in life but it was "the nature of hair to gain that yellowish hue in the grave" - in other words, Humphrey may have been grey- or white-haired at death and the materials used in embalming bleached or discoloured his hair.
Although being the most obscure sibling, Blanche of England is the perhaps the only other sibling where there's any information about her hair colour. We have this image which I believe is a copy of a near-contemporary image of her (in the centre):
Tumblr media
I can't remember or find where I got the information about it being a copy of a near-contemporary original, though, so I might be wrong. As we can see, she appears to have hair that is somewhere on the blond to red spectrum (I read it as ginger but though this is the highest resolution I can find, it's clearly poor quality (cf. the lines on the faces) so the colours might be distorted). The painting might represent Blanche as an idealised queenly figure rather than an attempt to represent her truthfully - though the fact it depicts her with a crown similar to the Palatine Crown she brought as her dowry is suggestive that they were trying to depict her in a way that made her easily identifiable.
Her name, "Blanche", might also be suggestive, as she was named after her grandmother, Blanche of Lancaster, Duchess of Lancaster (daughter of Henry of Grosmont, the first wife of John of Gaunt) whose hair was described by Chaucer as golden:
For every heer upon hir hede, Soth to seyn, hit was not rede, Ne nouther yelow, ne broun hit nas; Me thoghte, most lyk gold hit was. (The Book of the Duchess, ll. 855-858)
Of course, it's possible that Blanche was merely named in honour for her grandmother and there was no resemblance. But given Blanche means "white", it's possible that she was named in honour of her grandmother and because her hair was a similar colour.
I'm not aware of any contemporary surviving contemporary images of Philippa of England, though we have an image from 1590 that shows her with blonde (reddish-blonde?) hair and an stained glass window from the 19th century that shows her with dark hair:
Tumblr media Tumblr media
We do have a near-contemporary image of Thomas, Duke of Clarence but... it's his alabaster tomb effigy and he's shown wearing a helm and is without moustache and beard so we have no idea of the colour of his hair.
Tumblr media
But the Lancaster siblings probably every hair colour in their gene pool. Henry IV was said to have had "russet" hair when his tomb was opened (though we can't dismiss the possibility that his hair only appeared russet due to the way that red pigment can decay slower than others). Mary de Bohun is depicted as blonde in donor portraits in her psalter and Book of Hours (though it might be an idealised portrait than realistic). Their paternal grandmother, Blanche of Lancaster, was blond, their great-grandparents Philippa of Hainault and Edward III appear to have been black-haired and blonde respectively and red-hair is strongly associated with the Plantagenet line. So while Henry V, John and Humphrey all seeming to have dark brown hair is perhaps indicative of a family trait, I don't think that means Thomas, Blanche and Philippa must have had it too - and Blanche may well have been blonde or ginger.
11 notes ยท View notes
metamorphesque ยท 1 year ago
Text
Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media
though i am heavy, there is flight around me
wendell berry, the fall of icarus, f. scott fitzgerald, christophe vacher, hozier, galileo chini, mahmoud darwish (tr. catherine cobham), rubens, akwaeke emezi, alfred schwarzschild
4K notes ยท View notes
beguines ยท 9 months ago
Text
Massacre is a dead metaphor that is eating my friends, eating them without salt. They were poets and have become Reporters With Borders; they were already tired and now they're even more tired. 'They cross the bridge at daybreak fleet of foot' and die with no phone coverage. I see them through night vision goggles and follow the heat of their bodies in the darkness; there they are, fleeing from it even as they run towards it, surrendering to this huge massage. Massacre is their true mother, while genocide is no more than a classical poem written by intellectual pensioned-off generals. Genocide isn't appropriate for my friends, as it's an organised collective action and organised collective actions remind them of the Left that let them down.
Massacre wakes up early, bathes my friends in cold water and blood, washes their underclothes and makes them bread and tea, then teaches them a little about the hunt. Massacre is more compassionate to my friends than the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Massacre opened the door to them when other doors were closed, and called them by their names when news reports were looking for numbers. Massacre is the only one to grant them asylum regardless of their backgrounds; their economic circumstances don't bother Massacre, nor does Massacre care whether they are intellectuals or poets, Massacre looks at things from a neutral angle; Massacre has the same dead features as them, the same names as their widowed wives, passes like them through the countryside and the suburbs and appears suddenly like them in breaking news. Massacre resembles my friends, but always arrives before them in faraway villages and children's schools.
Massacre is a dead metaphor that comes out of the television and eats my friends without a single pinch of salt.
Ghayath Almadhoun, "Massacre", Adrenalin, trans. Catherine Cobham
784 notes ยท View notes
flowerytale ยท 11 months ago
Text
Tumblr media
Mahmoud Darwish, from "A Metaphor", A River Dies of Thirst: Journals (tr. by Catherine Cobham)
319 notes ยท View notes
soracities ยท 2 years ago
Quote
I walk lightly so as not to crush my cheerfulness. I walk heavily so as not to fly.
Mahmoud Darwish, from โ€œFrom now on you are you,โ€ A River Dies of Thirst (trans. Catherine Cobham)
971 notes ยท View notes
kummatty ยท 2 years ago
Text
Tumblr media
Mahmoud Darwish, trans. Catherine Cobham, from A River Dies of Thirst
368 notes ยท View notes
ardenrosegarden ยท 14 days ago
Note
Now that the Histories Ficathon is over I'm making good on my threat/promise... please assign the Lancasterlings (and their spouses, if you want) a prehistoric creature to go alongside Thomasaurus Rex.
yes...haha yes! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
this got long so under the cut:
Henry V:
Okay hear me out- we keep keep the swan theme and connection to Mary and her family as strong, tight throughline also I love the idea of Hal beating up people aggressive-swan-style. But- hear me out- bigger. So I'm thinking the giant Pleistocene swan Cygnus falconeri. It's a beautiful morning in France, and you are a horrible swan.
Tumblr media
Artist: Sergio Gauci
Given Henry VI may have gotten his panther badge from his mom, may I also propose for Catherine de Valois the Eurasian extinct giant cheetah species Acinonyx pardinensis?
Tumblr media
Artist: Velizar Simeonovski
Thomas, Duke of Clarence:
Obviously a T. rex, but I'm gonna stick this bit in from Brusatte's The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs to show how perfect that choice is ๐ŸคŒโœจ
Tumblr media
I admittedly know very little about Margaret Holland, but I was kind of compelled by how her children from her first marriage were kept in her and Thomas' household...that and Margaret wanting her book of hours to prepare her to "always be redy to dye," reminds me of the oviraptorid fossil that died and was preserved in position of protecting its eggs. Something about that as a parallel to her being buried alongside both her husbands too....
Tumblr media
Artist: Zhao Chuang
John, Duke of Bedford:
Maybe it's because he himself seemed constantly stressed and running around doing some sort of assignment, and in the plays it's sometimes played as if he dies from sheer exhaustion, but I kind of like the idea of a beardog like Ischyrocyon or Amphicyon. The beardogs were famously generalists in hunting and in both of the above genera, it's hypothesized they may have been persistence hunters.
youtube
Also voting for Anne of Burgundy as an alvarezsauroid like Mononykus or Shuvuuia, which have been compared to nocturnal avian hunters like owls ๐ŸคŽ๐Ÿค
Tumblr media
Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester:
So a guy having a pretty productive relationship to his family (not perfect, but pretty good compared to others I could name...) trying his best to be an actual protector of his relative's kid, having a lot of relationship drama, and also getting into spats with people reads as very ceratopsian to me lmao. To de-fang him a just a little, I'm going with Kosmoceratops. Those folded horns on the top edge of the frill and side-facing brow horns probably aren't going to help you that much at Agincourt, but I'm sure that pretty lady from Cobham thinks they're fire ๐Ÿ‘
Tumblr media
Artist: Lukas Panzarin
Speaking of: I like the idea of Eleanor of Cobham maybe being assigned with some sort of plesiosaur? Sort of bridging the siren to mermaid to modern creature of our mythical imagination Nessie pipeline :)
Tumblr media
Artist: James Kuether
For Jacoba, Smilodon. They're smart and fierce so fitting. Also what she deserves โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
Tumblr media
Artist: Mehdi Nikbakhsh
Blanche:
Unfortunately I couldn't find a whole lot on her, but that sort of elusive energy kind of reminds me of Coelurus fragilis, a possible Jurassic relative of the tyrannosaurs, but not much is known about their evolution or ecology. That and it being a more gracile and swift-footed creature kind of has Blanche vibes to me ๐Ÿค
Tumblr media
Artist: Nobu Tamura
Ludwig deserves nothing and gets nothing bye
Philippa, Queen of Denmark, Sweden, and Norway:
I know in the fic poor Philippa seems pretty freaked out by Thomasaurus' size, but I'm partial to her being a big death lizard tooโ€“ maybe like those coming-of-age mermaid stories but she's...bigger and teeth-ier ๐Ÿ˜…. For a similar reason to seeing what Thomas would do at Baugรฉ, I'd like to see Philippa defend Copenhagen as a Mosasaurus hoffmannii. Let's see the Hanseatic League try to get past THIS ๐Ÿซก min dronning ๐Ÿซก
Tumblr media
I like the idea of Erik also being associated with something aquatic though maybe not as intimidating as Philippa...maybe an early whale relative like Dorudon?
Tumblr media
Artist: David Arruda Mourao
7 notes ยท View notes
yaya-tchoum ยท 9 months ago
Text
Tumblr media
I have grown tired of long dreams that take me back to the point where they begin and I end, without us ever meeting in the morning.
โ€ขMahmoud Darwishโ€ข
#MahmoudDarwish, from โ€œI did not dreamโ€™' in: โ€œA River Dies of Thirst. Journalsโ€ by Mahmoud Darwish, translated from the Arabic by Catherine Cobham #photo Philomena Famulok
20 notes ยท View notes
girlfictions ยท 1 year ago
Text
It was the most beautiful war Iโ€™ve been in in my life, full of metaphors and poetic images, I remember how I used to sweat adrenalin and piss black smoke, how I used to eat my flesh and drink screams, death with his scrawny body leaned on the destruction committed by his poem, and wiped his knife clean of my salt, and the city rubbed my shoes with her evening and the street smiled and the city counted the fingers of my sorrow and dropped them on the road leading to her, death weeps and the city remembers the features of her killer and sends me a stabbing by post, threatening me with happiness, and hangs my heart out on her washing line strung between two memories, and oblivion pulls me towards myself, deeply towards myself, deeply, so my language falls on morning, and balconies fall on songs, headscarves on kisses, back streets on womenโ€™s bodies, the details of alleyways on history, the city falls on the cemeteries, dreams fall on the prisons, the poor on joy, and I fall on memory.
Ghayath Almadhoun, from Details (trans. Catherine Cobham)
42 notes ยท View notes
translations2 ยท 1 year ago
Text
์ˆฒ, ๋งˆํ๋ฌด๋“œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์œ„์‹œ
The Forest
- Mahmoud Darwish
- in A River Dies of Thirst: journals by Mahmoud Darwish, translated from Arabic to English by Catherine Cobham
I couldnโ€™t hear my voice in the forest, even if
the forest were free of the beastโ€™s hunger
and the army defeated or victorious โ€“ thereโ€™s no difference โ€“
had returned
over the severed limbs of the unknown dead to the barracks
or
the throne
And I couldnโ€™t hear my voice in the forest, even if
the wind carried it to me, and said to me:
โ€˜This is your voice,โ€™ I couldnโ€™t hear it
I couldnโ€™t hear my voice in the forest, even if
the wolf stood on his hind legs and applauded me:
โ€˜I can hear your voice, so give me your orders!โ€™
And I said: โ€˜The forest is not in the forest
Father wolf, my son!โ€™
I couldnโ€™t hear my voice unless
the forest were free of me, and I were free of
the silence of the forest.
_
์ˆฒย 
- ๋งˆํ๋ฌด๋“œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์œ„์‹œ
- ๋ฐœ์ทŒ: <๊ฐ•์€ ๋ชฉ์ด ๋ง๋ผ ์ฃฝ๋Š”๋‹ค: ์ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค> ๋งˆํ๋ฌด๋“œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์œ„์‹œ, ์บ์„œ๋ฆฐ ์ฝฅํ–„ ์•„๋ž์–ด์—์„œ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊น€
์ˆฒ์†์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค, ์ˆฒ์€
์ง์Šน์˜ ๊ตถ์ฃผ๋ฆผ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ž์œ ๋กœ์›€์—๋„
ํŒจ์ „ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์Šน๋ฆฌํ•œ - ์ฐจ์ด๋Š” ์—†๋‹ค - ๊ตฐ๋Œ€๋Š”
๋Œ์•„์™”๋‹ค
๋ˆ„๊ตฐ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์ธ์˜ย ์ž˜๋ ค๋‚˜๊ฐ„ ํŒ”๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐŸ๊ณ , ๋ง‰์‚ฌ๋กœ ํ˜น์€ย 
์™•์ขŒ๋กœ
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆฒ์†์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค, ๋ฐ”๋žŒ์ดย 
๋‚˜์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค์ฃผ์—ˆ์Œ์—๋„, ๋‚ด๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Œ์—๋„:ย 
โ€˜์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„ˆ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋‹ค,โ€™ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค
์ˆฒ ์†์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค, ๋Š‘๋Œ€๊ฐ€ย 
๋’ท๋ฐœ๋กœ ์„œ์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ•์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Œ์—๋„:
โ€˜๋„ˆ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ, ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋ช…๋ น์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค์ค˜!โ€™
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค: โ€˜์ˆฒ์€ ์ˆฒ์†์— ์—†์–ด
๋‚˜์˜ ์•„๋“ค, ์•„๋น  ๋Š‘๋Œ€์•ผ!โ€™
๋‚˜์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค, ์ˆฒ์ดย 
๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ์ž์œ ๋กญ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ํ•œ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ž์œ ๋กญ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ํ•œ
์ˆฒ์˜ ์นจ๋ฌต์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ.ย 
๋งˆํ๋ฌด๋“œ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์œ„์‹œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ
1 note ยท View note
une-sanz-pluis ยท 5 months ago
Text
35 notes ยท View notes
heartofstanding ยท 9 months ago
Note
After reading your article, marriages like Eleanor and Humphrey, Katherine and John, Henry VIII and Ambeline are described as women seducing men, and men being victims... But marriages like Owen Tudor and Catherine, Richard Woodville and Jacqueta in Luxembourg, will have completely ignored the subjective initiative of women, and the description of men seducing women should be class/gender discrimination?
Hi anon, I think you're asking about what kind of narratives there were around the marriages between men and women of significantly higher status, the inverse of the type of relationships I was talking about in this blogpost I made on my sideblog that focused on Eleanor Cobham, where women married men of much higher status than themselves.
There seems to be comparatively little scholarship in this area and it would be fascinating to see what commonalities and links a study would produce. The marriage of men to women of significantly higher status than themselves does appear to have been fairly common but does not seem to have generated the same amount of commentary and infamy as the relationships between women who married men of significantly higher status. I don't mean that they didn't contract comment but that there was little sustained comment - who remembers Alice de Lacey and Eubulus le Strange? Katherine Woodville and Sir Richard Wingfield? The only high profile case I can think of is Joan of Kent and Thomas Holland.
From what I could find, there does not seem to be the equivalent narrative of the man of lesser status seducing or bewitching the high-status woman into marriage. Instead, what seems to be the common theme is, as Katherine J. Lewis says, "a standard medieval antifeminist notion: that women were naturally inclined to lust and rendered irrational to it."
Lewis was talking specifically about the case of Catherine de Valois. One contemporary chronicler remarked that she was "unable to fully control her fleshly passions" when she married Owen Tudor and even chastises her for keeping the marriage secret "so she did not claim honourable title [of marriage] during her lifetime". Tudor was described by another chronicle as "no man of birthe nother of lyflode", implying his unworthiness. But there seems to have been little rancour or blame directed at Tudor.
It's not until the 16th century where the image of Catherine as governed by her lust became the dominant narrative around her remarriage, perhaps because the rise of the Tudor dynasty and Henry VIII's marital life lent itself to it. One notable example is Edward Hall, who in 1548 described Catherine as:
beyng young and lust, folowyng more awne appetite, then frendely counsaill and regardyng more her priuate affecion then her open honour
He describes Tudor, on the other hand, as a "goodly gentilman & a beautyful person, garnished with many Godly gyftes, both of nature & of grace" - so the issue here is not that Tudor is a social-climber but that Catherine is at the mercy of her sexual desires. Probably the most extreme example of this is Nicholas Fox's claim that Catherine "bey[ed] like a very dronkyn whore" in bed with Tudor - a factoid often gleefully repeated by historians and commentators to proclaim Tudor's sexual prowess despite the fact that Fox made the claim in 1541 and is far from a reliable source. The fact that it has been almost universally used to celebrate Tudor by demeaning Catherine shows how long-lasting this type of narrative is. Polydore Vergil similarly describes Catherine dismissively as "yonge in yeres, and thereby of lesse discretion to judge what was decent for estates" and then focuses on Tudor's lineage and good qualities. Kavita Mudan Finn notes that he "succeeds in suppressing what on the surface to appears to be her agency - a second marriage of her own free will - by literally changing the subject to Owen, and by extension, Henry, Tudor". This same suppression of Catherine's agency appears again in Michael Drayton's Englands Heroicall Epistles where Catherine appears to be acting on her own initiative, wanting Tudor for herself, but Drayton has Tudor displace Catherine's agency by citing destiny as the impulse behind their union. Catherine "is reimagined as a 'a Royall Prize' for Tudor to claim", per Finn. In short, Catherine appears to be cast as oversexed and/or uncontrollable while Tudor's individual qualities and descent are celebrated and their union is seen as governed by destiny and fate.
Joan of Kent has fared similarly to Catherine in that she is primarily remembered as governed by her lust. Famously described as Froissart as "a woman more beautiful and amorous than any in the realm" and by Adam of Usk as a "woman given to slippery ways", Joan had married Thomas Holland clandestinely, then been convinced by her family to marry William Montagu (the son of the Earl of Salisbury). Around eight years later, Holland then petitioned the papacy to return Joan to him, resulting in a public scandal. When Holland died in 1360, Joan made another shocking match, this time marrying Edward of Woodstock, Edward III's eldest son and heir known to history as "the Black Prince". Joan was sometimes referred to the "Fair Maid of Kent" or "the Virgin of Kent", probably sarcastically. Thomas Austin's wife was alleged to claim that Joan's son with the Prince, Richard II, was "nevere the prynses son and ... his moder [i.e. Joan] was nevere but a strong hore". Froissart recorded a conversation between Richard and his usurper, Henry IV, where Henry alleged that a bastard gotten in adultery. W. Mark Ormrod also suggested that various narratives about Joan in the Peasants Revolt built on her carnal reputation and may have reflected even more salacious tales floating around. Thomas Walsingham emphasises Joan's other alleged, inordinate appetites around the time of her death - gluttony ("hardly able to move about because she was so fat") and a love of luxury.
It is, however, very difficult to determine how much of Joan's reputation was shaped to her marriage to a man of significantly lower status or how much it was shaped by her marriage to the man, at the time, was to be the next king of England and to whom her marriage was both scandalous and unconventional. Likely, her reputation was formed by both marriages, both feeding the other. The deposition of her son also meant that her reputation was used as a way of slandering him. Thomas Holland, on the other hand, barely seems to be mentioned, let alone criticised - even if he was in his mid-20s when he married the 12 year old Joan. In fact, Henry Knighton's chronicle positions Holland as seduced by her, crediting Holland's "desire for her" as the cause that she had been divorced from her second husband, Montagu.
Jacquetta and Richard Woodville do not seem to have drawn the same level of commentary. Lynda J. Pidgeon notes that "the marriage ... aroused no comment from English chroniclers until after the coupleโ€™s daughter, Elizabeth, married King Edward IV in 1464". though it was recorded in by continental chronicles, such as Enguerrand de Monstrelet, who recorded recorded:
In this year [1436], the duchess of Bedford, sister to the count de St. Pol, married, from inclination, an English knight called sir Richard Woodville, a young man, very handsome and well made, but, in regard to birth, inferior to her first husband, the regent, and to herselfโ€ฆ
This has similar echoes to Hall's and Vergil's comments about the marriage of Catherine and Owen Tudor - Jacquetta marries from "inclination" a man inferior to herself but who is otherwise "very handsome and well-made". Hall includes the story of their marriage immediately after his account of Catherine and Tudor, which, as Finn says, "hints at a growing interest - and indeed, anxiety - about women's desires". Like Catherine, Jacquetta is described as marrying Woodville "rather for pleasure then for honour" and "without coลซโˆฃsayl of her frendes". Her family is said to disapprove but can do nothing - sentiments also found in Monstrelat and Jean de Wavrin. Rather than dwelling on Woodville's qualities as he does with Tudor's, Hall describes Woodville "lusty" and notes that he was made Baron Rivers, which may indicate . He does, however, mention the marriage of their daughter, Elizabeth, to the future Edward IV, a subject which he promises to return to.
The continuation of Monstrelet's chronicle links Jacquetta and Woodville's marriage to that of their daughter, Elizabeth Woodville's marriage to Edward IV, "thus linking these two unorthodox women together", per Finn. Here's what this continuation says:
After the death of the duke, his widow following her own inclinations, which were contrary to the wishes of her family, particularly to those of her uncle, the cardinal of Rouen, married the said lord Rivers, reputed the handsomest man that could be seen, who shortly after carried her to England, and never after could return to France for fear of the relatives of this lady.
It is likely that Jacquetta's unconventional second marriage helped render Jacquetta's reputation suspect and tempting to speculate that that it rendered her vulnerable to the accusations that she had used witchcraft to make Edward IV marry her daughter, Elizabeth Woodville. The unpopularity in France and Burgundy of her first marriage to John of Lancaster, Duke of Bedford and Regent of France may have also played into this view. Ricardians have certainly framed her as her as a seductress and her family as scheming, power-hungry social climbers in that regard - while also treating her as driven by her lust for Woodville. However, there is no evidence that this was the view of Jacquetta at the time, either in England or in France.
Richard Woodville is unique amongst the three men I've mentioned in that he seems to have been reviled as a man "brought up from nought", along with the rest of his and Jacquetta's prodigious offspring. This view has been spurred on by Ricardian historians that have reviled Elizabeth Woodville, where the entire family is depicted as a brood of grasping social climbers. An invasive species, if you will. I think it is likely that Jacquetta and Richard Woodville's marriage has helped furnish this view, particularly for Woodville himself. However, this particular image of Woodville and his children only seems to emerge with Elizabeth's marriage to Edward IV and the tensions between Edward, Woodville, George, Duke of Clarence and Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick ('the Kingmaker'), rather than Woodville's marriage to Jacquetta.
In short: the tendency seems to be depict the high-status woman as indulging in her own sexual desires and acting on her own will, disregarding reason, counsel and sense, while the man of lesser-status is considered handsome but bears little or no responsibility for seducing the woman. He is of less interest to contemporary chroniclers. Woodville seems to be an exception, rather than the norm, in being seen as guilty of social climbing and there it is the marriage of his daughter, not his own marriage, that gave that reputation. Owen Tudor, as the patriarchal originator of the Tudor dynasty, was celebrated by Tudor-era writers for his qualities and Welsh lineage - it would be easy to conclude that had he not been the grandfather of Henry VII, he would be entirely forgotten.
There do not seem to be any contemporary claims than Tudor, Holland or Woodville seduced, bewitched or raped their wives, whatever historical fiction novelists or pop historians claim. However, it should be noted that there are many cases where other high-status women could be abducted and forced into marriage. One example is Alice de Lacey, Countess of Lancaster. For those cases, I suggest reading Caroline Dunn's Stolen Women. It is far too long and complicated subject to summarise in a tumblr post.
Sources:
Caroline Dunn, Stolen Women in Medieval England: Rape, Abduction, and Adultery, 1100โ€“1500 (Cambridge University Press, 2017)
David Green โ€œโ€˜A woman given to slippery waysโ€™? The reputation of Joan, the Fair Maid of Kentโ€, People, Power and Identity in the Late Middle Ages: Essays in Memory of W. Mark Ormrod (Routledge, 2021, eds. Gwilym Dodd, Helen Lacey, Anthony Musson)
Katherine J. Lewis, โ€œKatherine of Valois: The Vicissitudes of Reputationโ€, Later Plantagenet and the Wars of the Roses Consorts: Power, Influence, and Dynasty (eds. J. L. Laynesmith and Elena Woodacre, Palgrave 2023) ย  ย 
Kavita Mudan Finn, The Last Plantagenet Consorts: Gender, Genre, and Historiography, 1440-1627 (Palgrave Macmillan, 2012)
W. Mark Ormrod, "In Bed With Joan of Kent: The King's Mother and the Peasants Revolt", Medieval Women: Texts and Contexts in Late Medieval Britain (ed. Jocelyn Wogan-Browne, Rosalynn Voaden, Arlyn Diamond, Ann Hutchison, Carol Meale, and Lesley Johnson, Brepols 2000)
Lynda J. Pigdeon, Brought Up Of Nought: A History of the Woodville Family (Fonthill 2019)
28 notes ยท View notes
beguines ยท 7 months ago
Text
Tumblr media
Ghayath Almadhoun, from "Black Milk", trans. Catherine Cobham
28 notes ยท View notes