#cannibalqueries

[cannibalgenders]

Hi! A new follower here :3 I am a femme fatale/femme coded hannibal enthusiast, and some time ago I read one of your posts (I think it was yours but not 100% sure) about that same concept, but unfortunately I can't find it anymore! If you haven't deleted it, can you link it to me? Or if you are willing to, I would love to hear more about your thoughts about the feminine side of hannibal (I lowkey want to write a post about it)! I hope this message won't bother you, have a nice day!

Of course! So my thought about Hannibal's gender are often more Doyalist than Watsonian. The way we as an audience perceive Hannibal is different than how Hannibal is perceived in universe. I'm not necessarily arguing for Hannibal the character to diagetically transfemme - HOWEVER

The way Hannibal is written is writing we typically see employed for characters that are women. Horror is a pretty gendered genre, the things people are afraid of are very shaped by society, and one of the things that's long been an element of horror is women, or women as perceived by men.

There's tons of tropes specifically about women who's femininity is 'wrong', is threatening. Think of Bunny Boiler stories, fatal attraction. The successful career woman secretly waiting for a man to come along that she'll become utterly obsessed with, tearing apart his life at the drop of a hat because she's so unstable. Think of all the controlling moms who abuse their children in horror, the Sharp Objects / Carrie / Bates Motel / Hereditary picture of a woman. Miserable women who don't want their children to exist beyond the scope of what they can feel and see.

Hannibal's horror is unmistakably feminine. His sphere of influence is the home, the kitchen, the opera. He exerts significant control over both his social circle and his family. His 'daughter'. His 'husband'. And this is acknowledged in the text! "I gave you a child, Will"

He's making himself into a traditional wife and mother, but he's doing it in a way that's wrong, that's manipulative, that's uncanny, that's horrifying.

[cannibalgenders]

Think about this Hannibal where everything is the same except Will Graham's father is D.B Cooper

DB disappeared in ‘71, assuming that he died during his descent I’m not sure he could have been Will’s father timeline-wise UNLESS he survived and raised Will on the run, which would add some context to his “always the new kid” comments. Much like being in witness protection, being raised this way would necessitate basically never getting especially close to anyone (probably friend making was already difficult for him as a young autistic boy, but being FORBIDDEN puts a different spin on it).

He might feel that something is innately wrong with him because his father was a criminal- maybe he joined the police force as a way of overcoming his perceived tainted blood. Maybe that’s when him and his father stopped speaking.

Now imagine after all of that time, Will has to go back to running from the FBI. Reluctantly, he takes Hannibal back to Louisiana, to some remote safe house that may or may not be a boat for medical surprise, food. In a moment of desperation, they encounter Will’s father.

The same father who always knew Will would come crawling back. That Will would become the same dangerous, slippery bastard he raised.

He and Hannibal would get along swimmingly, of course, which would only enrage Will further.

[cannibalgenders]

What do you think Abigail's life would have been if they had all ran away to Europe?

So, Murder family never would have worked as a triad simply because, as Will stated, Hannibal wants to be the only person and only thing in the lives of the people he loves. Every gesture, ever word, every glance that Will and Abigail exchanged that Hannibal wasn’t privy to would feel like a loss, like something out of his control. While Hannibal does tend to just play with people and elements to see what they’ll do, the difference is truly his level of investment. He wants to consume Will and he consumed in turn, and the minute Abigail stops being a method of captivating Will or a version of Mischa or a younger Hannibal than he would inevitably become tired of her.

Eventually, Abigail would either have to become Hannibal by experiencing her own becoming and killing alongside them or she could become dinner. Like Lupa the wolf, mother of Rome, Hannibal will carry the baby back to his den, but it’s up to her whether she is carried as pup or food. I think it’s also very clear in Hannibal’s initial treatment of Abigail that he’s latched onto as much of an incomplete picture as Will had.

He saw her sharp edges, her cleverness, her willingness to do what it takes to survive and to thrive but because of the way Hannibal views his own childhood, he failed to see the softer version of Abigail that could exist if she hadn’t grown up under horrific circumstances.

[cannibalgenders]

Do you think the Wilderness was real supernatural identity or was it born from the girls desperation?

I think the Wilderness was more like the Dancing Plagues of the medieval period. I'm not sure it matters whether or not it was supernatural or the product of some kind of mass hysteria, because ultimately it still has the power to hurt and kill those within its grasp. However, personally I'm leaning more towards "The Wilderness as human-created". When we get the scene of the girls finally giving in to cannibalism, they're presented in an ancient Greek Bacchanal of sorts. Ritualized madness, religious ecstasy, it's been around for as long as humans have. Reducing it to either "it's mental illness" or "it's 100% real and supernatural" flattens those experiences, and I personally hope that Yellowjackets continues to lay up the ambiguity.

[cannibalgenders]

Imagine they announce a Hannibal spinoff, everyone is excited to see Mads and Hugh again maybe Clarice possibly Jack

When it comes out is a 4 hour long legal battle for the copyright over "Hannibal the Cannibal" between Freddie Lounds and Frederick Chilton the case is called Freddie v. Freddie there's not even visible murder just legal jargon

You laugh but this is actually my ideal spin-off. I hope it’s edited and directed with the sort of gritty, realistic drama as The People vs OJ Simpson and it’s a miniseries with hour long episodes detailing the intricate petty ways in which both of them have attempted to monetize their horrific experiences,

I hope their are recreations of each side of the story, everything they’re both lying about, by the original actors, but acting wildly out of character because it’s CLEARLY Bullshit that Freddie/Chilton are making up to strengthen their case.

I’d start talking to my patent attorney dad again just to screen this with him in one torturous marathon.

We get to the end. Tense silence falls on both of us. My father is tied up and I occasionally remove the duct tape from his mouth so he can explain a legal issue. Type face texts scrawls along the bottom of the screen. “Havana Cuba- 2023’. It changes to a rather meta shot of two people watching the court case on a couch. Will and Hannibal’s hands brush as they both reach for the bowl. Inside, we see a single uncooked lip.

End.

[cannibalgenders]

I like to imagine Hannibal watches old movies from every part of the world ,so being mexican I think he would like

1.Macario (1960)

2.El angel negro (1942)

3. Ensayo de un crimen (1955)

Do you have any hc about what movies he or Will would like?

I think Will grew up on spaghetti westerns, and Hannibal flexes his linguistic skills by watching movies from all over the world, but he has a particular soft spot for samurai movies, a guilty pleasure from when he was a teenager living with Murasaki

[cannibalgenders]

I have noticed your blog name and i have come to ponder if you have ever laid your eyes upon the hit showtime original series Yellowjackets. You should perchance watch it mayhaps.

I have and I enjoy it immensely, Misty Quigley did so many things wrong but they were funny and she should do them again <3

[cannibalgenders]

What does your name mean. Are the genders eating each other

Why are they eating each other

No the genders aren’t eating each other my gender is cannibal because it’s the thing I love most in the world also all fictional cannibals serve cunt

[cannibalgenders]

Are you natural blonde?

I am! With all the audacity that goes with it. My siblings are both blonde too, but I think my hair is still the lightest in the family

[cannibalgenders]

Hello 🥺

[cannibalgenders]

Is Abigail kinda like Jesus? Like dying for other's sins, created solely for the father's mission and their father's love is what killed them

(keep in mind my biblical knowledge comes from Jesus Christ Superstar the musical)

Yes (I am Jewish and my Jesus knowledge comes from the Veggietales hairbrush song)

But actually that’s a very salient point that I never even thought of and I would love if my Christian Hannibal moots could weigh in because I don’t know Jack about Shit

@degenderates help me out here I know you love your Jesus narratives

[cannibalgenders]

Will graham using the "I'm not the stepfather, I'm the father that stepped up" but he failed spectacularly at it

He was the father that stepped off a cliff instead of watching his kid lmao

[cannibalgenders]

hey boy your femme to butch hannibal chart is off the rails correct

Thank you I am a scholar /j

[cannibalgenders]

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[cannibalgenders]

Still haven't grasped that you're texan, yee haw or something idk

Gay cowboy

Yee, and I cannot stress this enough, haw

[cannibalgenders]

favorite rock?

Muscovite Mica